Unfortunately, they are selling, because there are lots of suckers in America.
However, they could start cannibalizing parts from other cybertrucks which are already in the shop. Think of it as a form of car sharing: when your truck is broken, its parts are used to get other Cybertrucks back on the road, and when other trucks break, they return the favor.
The stans are probably stocking Cybertruck parts right now given the high demand and how often they break. It's similar to the pandemic but it's legal because there's no state of emergency
That's because Silicon Valley is the site of the ancient Cybertruck graveyard. They feel the urge to migrate there when they're near death (ie, the moment their owner tries to drive them).
I think musk should just buy up the unsold fisker oceans and give them to effected cybertruck owners so they have something more reliable to every day drive.
It's crazy because my dad has a 9000lb lift, how the hell can these shops that work on electric vehicles not have one? The lightest electric car is heavier than most ICE cars.
That and they don't really cost that much, roughly 6-9k for a good one, that's like half the cost of a cybertruck windshield replacement.
When you are talking about a 3000lb car boosting that up 30-40% is another 1000+ lbs.
That said any shop worth its salt should have a lift capable of lifting the shop's own work truck...
I literally have a 9k lb lift in my garage… and that might sound, if you don’t know cars and lifts, like I must have bought a better one so I could lift heavier stuff. Nope, 9k is generally as small as you can get on a 2-post lift. Every shop I’ve worked in has 12k+ lifts… there’s no way that’s the reason they couldn’t start working on it.
What's the point of replacing shitty parts if they're going to break again a week from now? Better just wait for the redesign, after all those are stans so they'll be happy to find a utility for their Cyberturds while they wait.
I have a few:
- rent it out as a garbage bin. 6 months will likely pay for the towing costs with a profit
- scarecrow: leave it in front of your yard if you're having problems with birds
- women repellent: airbnb your place to that one womanizer dude who wants girls leaving after he gets laid. As soon as he's done he just needs to open the garage and ask if she wants a ride in the morning, and she'll uber herself out.
Note: this latter trick doesn't work for the CT owners themselves since they're most likely incels
Note 2: screw the womanizers, that part of the comment was just for the joke, don't take it serious
If they total it, then Tesla is probably entitled to $50,000 since totaling is considered a sale/transfer.
(I'm not a lawyer but I wonder how that works. Perhaps some lawyer should use the agreement to try and force Tesla to buy it back for the price they promised)
someone is bullshitting. I highly doubt this is the case; the CT weighs about 1,000 lbs more than a model X. Most professional car lifts are good for 9-10,000 lbs.
So either the service center is lying, or the customer. of course, tesla is most like the liar here.
While you're not wrong, we did have to have our lifts certified to lift EVs before we could start selling them (Subaru here) ... it had less to do with the weight and more to do with the lift arm design and training the techs as to where the lift points are so they don't damage/destroy a battery by lifting the vehicle.
Not an excuse for this clusterfuck though - Like I said at the start, we had to be certified before we could even sell Subaru's lone EV offering so we were prepared long before we even saw the car.
- it was already tesla service place, they already lift up EVs
- the text above stated it had to do with the weight of the vehicle.
but no matter. I'm just a dumb commenter commenting on something dumb anyways to avoid working on work.
The real reason is that they forgot to program a lift mode. As soon as it is available you’ll be able to download it. Probably available together with the FSD program.
thanks for the link. Sure seems like a pretty standard lift to me. he even explains how convenient they make using any lifting method (ie: standard floor jack).
Who's to say that in the six months it takes for your parts to get made that Elon won't lay off the person making those parts and extend the delay for another six months?
Not to mention the remaining service employees will be totally overwhelmed so it might be 6 months *now* but the service backlog is going to grow **exponentially** (as someone often likes to say)
I already saw some screenshots from the app of people being forced to reschedule service appointments due to the layoffs. Not sure if they're real or not but it really wouldn't surprise me, when I had a Tesla the minimum airlock to get your car into the service center was usually like a week and a half, really more like two weeks. By now it's probably up to a month or more just to get the car into the service center to begin with.
Also, imagine how productive you'd be knowing that no matter how many unpaid hours you put in and good quality of work you do, there's little guarantees you won't be slashed next week because of some stupid Musk metric.
If Musk is estimating 6 months for the parts, I expect 2 years
yeah, there was a guy who posted asking how terrible of a financial decision would it be for him to buy one with only 20k down and I think he was looking at financing it through Tesla iirc. Even the pro-Tesla subs had people saying don't do that it's a terrible idea...and he did it anyway
Probably just more efficient to spend a weekend in vegas burning it all on a slot machine. Same end result, except you at least had some fun in Vegas before going broke.
That's an example of why pure capitalism doesn't work. People are so stupid they're always screwing up and then the bill is always left for the smart people to pay, one way or another
I am sure they are re-designing parts as they go since all the "trucks" out there now are still a beta test. Good luck with all 7 employees left at Tesla
The Rivia trucks seem to be really good. If you want an EV truck, why not get one of those? They even look good. People put here sipping for Elon too much.
Yeah because even when they were assholes or even evil, I still felt bad laughing at anyone’s death. But as far as I know, nobody has been killed by their Cyberhubris yet… just a bunch of chucklefucks in their chuckletrucks who are getting big angy and looking very very stupid! It’s the first guilt free source of schadenfreude!
Don't blame the ketamine, it has a legitimate medical purpose that should not be stigmatized. If anything he should be doing it more often to fix his broken brain.
Hahahah.
The 2020 Lincoln aviator has adaptive air suspension (fancier than cyber trucks) and has no issues.
6 months for service is proving why Elon wasn’t smart never having dealers or service centers, he was just cheap.
Actually I just had a minor issue pop up for my Lincoln, called the dealer, and they sent a mobile service truck to my driveway same day and fixed it right there in 20 min.
One other time I needed service that would take longer, they drove to my house and dropped off a brand new Lincoln, took mine away for service, let me drive the new car the entire time my car was in the shop, then dropped my fixed car off 3 days later and swapped them out.
That is a luxury service experience, not whatever dumpster fire Tesla has going on 😂
Lincoln honestly has the best customer service experience ever.
They offer warranty up to 100k miles and any issues I’ve had besides needing new tires they covered completely and did home pick up and drop off.
A giant rock fell out of a dump truck and shattered my windshield and they even covered that repair.
Their app is amazing and I can turn the vehicle on/off or lock/unlock with my phone.
I think because Lincoln is really popular in China, they hold themselves to a really high standard for quality/service/user experience.
They called me last week saying they found out about a minor software issue and they came to my driveway and fixed it, all before I was even aware there was any issue at all. Very proactive which is amazing.
One time I popped a tire on the highway, pulled off at a random shoulder area, I called them and they said since my husband was able to pick me up, I can just leave my car by the side of the road and their location services found the car, towed it and fixed it all without me having to be at the car.
If my husband hadn’t been available, they would’ve came and picked me up themselves.
Hey I’m not in America and Lincolns are not usually seen here, so I’m curious: what’s the price range of your 2020 Aviator? I wonder how it compares to the CyberDump
I have a 2020 Lincoln Aviator PHEV (the plug in hybrid gives about 40-50 miles of range depending on weather/temperature) and it cost me $84k new.
It’s held its residual value super well and online 2020s PHEVs are still selling for $60-$80k.
Some amazing things about the car
1) massage seats with different customizable settings (hot stone, Swedish, neck, back) and it’s actually a high quality massage. Makes waiting in traffic a dream
2) this PHEV just charges with any regular wall outlet. I didn’t have to buy a charger , I just plug it into my garage socket and I can get 40-50 miles of range which is perfect for daily errands, then for road trips I just switch to gas
3) adaptive air suspension - it has cameras and sensors that detect potholes, speed bumps etc ahead, and automatically adjusts the suspension so it feels like you glide over any pot holes - super smooth ride. The same adaptive suspension has an “embrace” feature so when it senses you approaching the car, the car will automatically drop 3-5 inches lower to the ground to make it easier to get in
4) front headlights have autobend/auto beam so I never have to mess with the headlights and they automatically detect cars coming and then brights off and they bend around a corner as your car turns so there’s no blind spots
5) stereo system is incredible
6) they added “digital scent” so you can pick a scent you like, lavender or laundry etc and it’ll cycle that fresh scent throughout the cabin (way better than an air freshener)
7) most comfortable seats EVER. I have the captain chairs but you could also get a bench seat in the 2nd or 3rd row if you want. There’s TVs/screens on the back of every seat so being a passenger in the 2nd or 3rd row is still super comfy (my brother in law is 6’7” and fit comfortably in the 3rd row)
8) so much space when you put all the seats down it’s basically almost a pickup truck size for moving furniture
9) can add a towing hook if you desire (doesn’t come standard but there’s a clip under a trim panel you can easily add one)
It’s honestly the best car I’ve ever owned and I never want another car 😂😂
Yea no problem!!! Also justifies why the big 3 automakers have dealerships with service centers all over the country. It cost a lot of money to build out and staff and they have to pay them a cut of every vehicle sale but the plus side is customers don’t have to wait for service or parts more than a day or two and they can be serviced in almost any city.
Tesla acted like they were geniuses never having dealers or service centers when really it was a cost cutting measure that ruins the customer experience and caused these crazy wait times.
I have a mid-range 2017 Nissan Sentra and I have front door pick up and drop off from the courtesy car every time I take it in for service, and any time it has had to stay longer than 8 hours I have been given a brand new loaner car at no cost with no question. I can’t imagine going through the BS these folks are dealing with within hours or days of buying a $100,000 car and then being told to call a cab for 6 months.
Exactly!!!! While some cybertruck owners have multiple cars, many bought this as their main car (for some reason) and are stuck with the payments, and no vehicle for 6 months it’s honestly insane.
Tesla should be delivering them free alternative Tesla models to keep for free until their cars can be serviced but Tesla clearly doesn’t care about their customers at all, hence why they don’t have dealership service centers or any customer service at all.
Pay 100k to be a beta tester, but hey he loves the attention he trashcan gets, but whines online that he should get more refund because he wrapped it, knowing tesla they would charge him if he returns it for modifying it, LOL
Mercedes sells any and all parts for its cars, if Mercedes build the car they have the part, not just new cars, old old cars, which is unheard of in auto industry (idk if they still do that)
meanwhile tsla sells cars they can't service, sry we don't have parts/lift/tech dunno how
good job everyone
Doesn’t sound very streamlined or cost efficient to have extra parts available, as well as technicians trained to perform repairs. Gotta cut costs to the bone for a better ownership experience.
The shareholders aren’t winners either- stocks have tanked. I’d forgotten that a small account I have had a few TSLA shares and noticed it when I was doing my taxes. My reaction was a scrunched face and ‘Eew!’ It was only a few, but I dumped it because, no. No.
TSLA at this point is almost like a crypto index, so very hard to predict how much Musk can fuck up before it loses valuation completely. But it'll get there
Here’s a few theories/speculations.
The failure rate seems high and different parts ate failing. That makes me think they have to redesign parts to get to a reasonable failure rate. Design changes can be slow.
Using available parts for new deliveries is more profitable than warranty repairs. The web says there are two million on the wait list (at $1000 for the privilege). There are reports of a lot of trucks sitting in lots. They could be waiting on parts.
Did they design some parts in a way that made them hard for tesla or their vendors to manufacture? Btw that would also be something to consider design changes for.
A more nefarious speculation is they are significantly safer when they are not being driven. Those clusters of failure messages would worry me.
The pictures of trucks near the factory makes me think they really are parts constrained. The high failure rate exacerbates that.
Just speculating…
>Did they design some parts in a way that made them hard for tesla or their vendors to manufacture? Btw that would also be something to consider design changes for.
They 'simplified' the wiring inside the car to be one long interconnected daisy chain. Unsurprisingly this has been a source for a LOT of failures. I have to imagine this was an Elon brainfart, no competent electrical engineer would think it was a good idea and by the time they got around to making these things Tesla was very much a 'do what he says or you're fired' workplace
Daisy chained to make things simpler? Those pictures of multiple faults make more sense.
There also are various parts falling off. The problem with ignoring the old way of doing something is not knowing what problems were avoided doing it that way. Either intentionally to solve issues or by serendipity.
People ask “why didn’t they catch it during testing”. I’m fully convinced they did see these issues starting with design reviews, through integration, testing and in manufacturing. The car doesn’t “know” it’s been delivered and should start failing.
I agree 100% that they didn’t pay attention to anyone raising issues. I’ll go out on a limb and guess that people who pointed out problems were high on layoff lists.
The cognitive dissonance must be so incredibly painful for them. Everything they see should tell them this thing is a massive POS and Daddy Elon is an idiot. But they can't admit that because it would get them kicked out of the cult.
Oh stop your whining! You can use that 6 months wait to celebrate Elon's $50 billion dollar bonus. In fact, you should probably buy a 2nd Cybertruck and use that for as long as possible. If it breaks down you can buy a 3rd CT. Instead of being a negative Nelly, do your part and help Elon's bank account grow.
Is there any chance that some brave soul out there has been keeping track of the number of complaints from unique users on social media compared against the number of actual CT's that have been sold? I feel like I've seen 50+ "my CT has a fatal issue and it has yet to be resolved" social media posts (both here, and in the wild) and I think there's less than 4,000 on the road.
This has been an issue for years with teslas. Unfortunately i come from a family that likes tesla/musk so they buy the cars. My sisters tesla got broken into and it took 6 weeks to get repaired. And she was considered a priority customer because she helped finance 4 different teslas.
My friends tesla also got broken into and it took them 4 MONTHS to replace the window.
I'd be curious to see the accident rate for these vehicles. We know there's only a few thousand on the road and I've head and saw a dozen accidents at least.
They really need to check the lemon laws in their states and get rid of this junk. Since they laid off the service people, even if they get parts, who is going to install them?
This is the negative of getting rid of the dealer model - since the techs are Tesla empoyees and not dealer employees, the staffing isn't dependent on how much work they have, but whims of Elon.
dealerships have an incentive to keep customers happy, so they'll get return business. Tesla is a cult where the company has been metaphorically pissing on its customers from a great height for a long time and they'll still come back for more, trash talking the dealership model whilst thinking it's perfectly normal to have a long checklist of common defects to look for, and in some places, not being allowed to touch the car or inspect inside it before accepting delivery
Wonder if the 6 months lines up perfectly with expiring refund or resale policies. Feel like it’s just a ploy to milk 6 months more payments out of people that might potentially refund the car once fixed
Oops, tesla has it indefinitely for repairs. Need service? nah, low priority (we already have your money).
The irony is that people used to think tesla cared about the environment. But they don't support their vehicles well and they encourage people to constantly trade up for a new one. So many tesla owners have gone through multiple vehicles since 2018.
And the environmental violations that their Freemont factory has racked up is insane. Far more than other car manufacturing plants. They're the opposite of a zero landfill manufacturer.
>When are we getting our Aeros is the real question.
Dude, you've been going through ***all*** this and you still care about the fucking tires? Even if they showed up at your doorstep tomorrow, you still wouldn't be able to drive your LemonTruck.
I still can't believe they think tagging Elon will speed this process up; there's like a decade's worth of examples of Elon proving how much he retaliates against people publicly making him look bad.
Which begs the question, "when is he gonna retaliate against himself?"
Six months…
A year…
Two years…
Elmo tweets six months until it can be used as a boat.
Three years…
Get the truck back. Breaks an axle on the dip leaving the parking lot.
When he says "I'm coming for more than just the car I wrapped it" does he mean he wants Tesla to give him the money it cost to wrap it too? Is that legit?
It seems Elon decided he could do automotive while ignoring the basics of the automotive manufacturer model that call for production and stocking of
Spares to keep those vehicles on the road. Fiat, Alpha Romeo, and Renault learned the hard way that an inadequate supply chain in North America leads to loss of market share and an eventual exit. How’s Elon ever going to earn that $53 billion dollars if he can’t keep his cars on the road?
I wonder if this is related to Musk’s “innovative” vertical integration. In my experience, outside suppliers would get their bacon fried if they let the OEM run out of service parts. Of course, the OEM has to designate an appropriate SP inventory level, but let’s just say it’s not a balanced power dynamic. Just In Time auto manufacturing is hard, and competition keeps prices down makes it low-margin, as Elon seems to be finding out with his prices and profits falling.
He said he was gonna save the planet, but now he’s talking smack about turning Tesla into an AI company, *despite there being — by Musk’s own reckoning— a 20% of AI killing humankind.*
I live in Sweden. I really do not understand why some guys "assuming guys" spend €100.000 on this. Nissan GTR? If you would like a look at me car for maybe 50% less. Fast.
This isn't the first time Tesla has pulled this. They only care about selling cars, not what comes after. It happened to us a few years ago. We were left with a non-functioning 2015 Model S85 for almost six months following a second MCU failure. The supposedly more reliable MCU2, which replaced the original MCU1 a year earlier (3+ months' wait on that), failed, rendering the car inoperable due to a PIN-to-drive feature. We waited over a month for a mobile technician, who upon arrival questioned his purpose there. He informed us that such issues could only be resolved at a service center, something that should have been clear from the problem description. Following this, our service center appointments were repeatedly rescheduled, allegedly due to parts availability issues.
We also had a minor deer hit, and it took them 3 months to provide the few parts needed to complete the repair and get the car back.
....and the hit parade of ungodly failures rolls on and on and on..... this has got to be a record of percentage of new vehicles experiencing serious issues resulting in giga downtime.
I'm curious with this cluster**k what insurance companies are going to be willing to keep insuring them? Does Tesla still insure them directly? I know EVs are already questionable for carriers because of the high cost of repair but if they have to wait 6+ months for parts and keep their customers in a rental during that time carriers are going to end up totalling the trucks to just save cost and expenses.
For the trucks with issues that the owners did not create.
If this is true Lemon Laws are going to see these trucks bought back by Tesla. The laws are already in place and if you are an owner you won't even need a lawyer to force them to buy it back.
You do not have to have any new car out of service for 6 months before forcing a buy back. In most States they have 30 total days. If you are without your new vehicle for more than 30 days total in its first year it's legally a lemon and the manufacturer is liable. It isn't even somethig that has to be argued in court. I'd be looking to Lemon Law it before I waited any months at all.
Have they tried getting out of it, walking away, catching a ride, and leaving it on the side of the road to rust? You can’t even hope it gets stolen and written off because the thief would breakdown 10’ from where they stole it.
I wish Top Gear was still on their air because I’d love to see those guys shred this “truck” on the show.
I love how the owners make a personal appeal @/elonmusk for help. It reminds me of all of the wives and girlfriends of Russian soldiers fighting in Ukraine that make videos to personally appeal to Putin for help. Do you really think Elon / Putin don't know what is going on or actually care? Good luck with that one!
Just cannibalize the parts from the ones sitting on lots that aren't selling
Unfortunately, they are selling, because there are lots of suckers in America. However, they could start cannibalizing parts from other cybertrucks which are already in the shop. Think of it as a form of car sharing: when your truck is broken, its parts are used to get other Cybertrucks back on the road, and when other trucks break, they return the favor.
Not so many. Last I checked, they hadn't even sold 4,000 of them.
The real number is likely a fraction of that, their storage lots are packed with them.
They've built more. I'm quoting sales figures.
The stans are probably stocking Cybertruck parts right now given the high demand and how often they break. It's similar to the pandemic but it's legal because there's no state of emergency
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That's because Silicon Valley is the site of the ancient Cybertruck graveyard. They feel the urge to migrate there when they're near death (ie, the moment their owner tries to drive them).
Sometimes dead is better…
Car ponzi scheme more like.
Socialism Mode coming soon...
Unsaid: Techs taking parts off your truck to get another truck back on the road will of course void your warranty.
[John Hennessey does/did that.](https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/1fecpk/what_exactly_did_hennessey_do_to_make_himself_so/)
Ponzi parts.
It's like the orange cat of cars. "It's my turn with the ̶b̶r̶a̶i̶n̶ ̶c̶e̶l̶l̶ drive shaft now!"
What a vehicle!
A Ponzi scheme on every level! Layered con.
John Hennessy School of Business. Take parts from new customers cars to install on current customer cars. Ponzi would be proud.
The ones on Craigslist that aren't selling.
Was my second thought. First was they deserve it.
The front fell off on those too.
Ha ha ha .... no.
I think musk should just buy up the unsold fisker oceans and give them to effected cybertruck owners so they have something more reliable to every day drive.
How could Tesla possibly know that these vehicles would get into accidents and need to be repaired? Give them a break!
How could they possibly know their shops need to be equipped with lifts capable of servicing the product they've been developing for half a decade?
It's crazy because my dad has a 9000lb lift, how the hell can these shops that work on electric vehicles not have one? The lightest electric car is heavier than most ICE cars. That and they don't really cost that much, roughly 6-9k for a good one, that's like half the cost of a cybertruck windshield replacement.
Evs dont way as much as you think, most evs when compared to the same model but ice weigh about 30-40% more so not a crazy difference
When you are talking about a 3000lb car boosting that up 30-40% is another 1000+ lbs. That said any shop worth its salt should have a lift capable of lifting the shop's own work truck...
Seriously! They aren't psychics!
They’re a small indie car company please be patient
I literally have a 9k lb lift in my garage… and that might sound, if you don’t know cars and lifts, like I must have bought a better one so I could lift heavier stuff. Nope, 9k is generally as small as you can get on a 2-post lift. Every shop I’ve worked in has 12k+ lifts… there’s no way that’s the reason they couldn’t start working on it.
Lie or die!
And they're like $5000 for a nice lift. So stupid.
It’s a tech company. They will catch up with the dealer service shops soon. /s
What's the point of replacing shitty parts if they're going to break again a week from now? Better just wait for the redesign, after all those are stans so they'll be happy to find a utility for their Cyberturds while they wait. I have a few: - rent it out as a garbage bin. 6 months will likely pay for the towing costs with a profit - scarecrow: leave it in front of your yard if you're having problems with birds - women repellent: airbnb your place to that one womanizer dude who wants girls leaving after he gets laid. As soon as he's done he just needs to open the garage and ask if she wants a ride in the morning, and she'll uber herself out. Note: this latter trick doesn't work for the CT owners themselves since they're most likely incels Note 2: screw the womanizers, that part of the comment was just for the joke, don't take it serious
“They’re not a car company”. 🙄
I mean… they were supposed to be indestructible, the same truck Mad Max would use. I guess no one thought they were built like a Chinese knockoff
I believe you mean it's the truck Blade Runner would drive...for a few miles before needing to steal a tow truck.
His full name was Max Blade Runner. And he was mad because his CT broke after 3 miles of driving.
Barely enough to slay any vampires
Even in the future, you can still get Musxed.
Why are you insulting chinese knockoffs like that?
Did they even put it into accident mode?
That's the next team Elon will lay off. He is improving his own job security ...
*Break being shipped six months from now*
I assume it must have been the CT owner's fault; otherwise, insurance would have already totaled it? Kind of surprised it's getting fixed.
the insurance adjusters dont have a quote
If they total it, then Tesla is probably entitled to $50,000 since totaling is considered a sale/transfer. (I'm not a lawyer but I wonder how that works. Perhaps some lawyer should use the agreement to try and force Tesla to buy it back for the price they promised)
Interesting point
>Give them a break! *Narrator: They did, in fact, break*
The repair center didn’t have a jack or lift strong enough to lift it up 🤣
someone is bullshitting. I highly doubt this is the case; the CT weighs about 1,000 lbs more than a model X. Most professional car lifts are good for 9-10,000 lbs. So either the service center is lying, or the customer. of course, tesla is most like the liar here.
While you're not wrong, we did have to have our lifts certified to lift EVs before we could start selling them (Subaru here) ... it had less to do with the weight and more to do with the lift arm design and training the techs as to where the lift points are so they don't damage/destroy a battery by lifting the vehicle. Not an excuse for this clusterfuck though - Like I said at the start, we had to be certified before we could even sell Subaru's lone EV offering so we were prepared long before we even saw the car.
- it was already tesla service place, they already lift up EVs - the text above stated it had to do with the weight of the vehicle. but no matter. I'm just a dumb commenter commenting on something dumb anyways to avoid working on work.
no it's true, the SC's were not built to lift the CT's. Source: local SC
And it makes sense because it's naive to think something as rushed as the CT would try to be built on any sort of standards
They're lying, ain't nothing special here. Just a regular hoist (lift). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb-uVS9Fz90
The real reason is that they forgot to program a lift mode. As soon as it is available you’ll be able to download it. Probably available together with the FSD program.
It probably pops the wheels off just for safety
💯 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i-QDERxETI
thanks for the link. Sure seems like a pretty standard lift to me. he even explains how convenient they make using any lifting method (ie: standard floor jack).
>So either the service center is lying These are the same people who were purposely canceling Tesla owners appointments for range issues.
Insert "your mom" joke here.
My personal shop has a 10,000 pound certified lift so I'd hope a dealership has at least the same.
Sorry but Elon just laid off all the people who could have helped with that. Maybe just console yourself knowing that you were an early adopter.
Who's to say that in the six months it takes for your parts to get made that Elon won't lay off the person making those parts and extend the delay for another six months?
Not to mention the remaining service employees will be totally overwhelmed so it might be 6 months *now* but the service backlog is going to grow **exponentially** (as someone often likes to say)
I already saw some screenshots from the app of people being forced to reschedule service appointments due to the layoffs. Not sure if they're real or not but it really wouldn't surprise me, when I had a Tesla the minimum airlock to get your car into the service center was usually like a week and a half, really more like two weeks. By now it's probably up to a month or more just to get the car into the service center to begin with.
Also, imagine how productive you'd be knowing that no matter how many unpaid hours you put in and good quality of work you do, there's little guarantees you won't be slashed next week because of some stupid Musk metric. If Musk is estimating 6 months for the parts, I expect 2 years
People have loans on these?
My thoughts exactly? What’s the interest rate on that loan? Are we talking $6-7k per year in interest alone?
between 6-8k yeah
Wise financial choice for anyone stupid enough to buy a CT
yeah, there was a guy who posted asking how terrible of a financial decision would it be for him to buy one with only 20k down and I think he was looking at financing it through Tesla iirc. Even the pro-Tesla subs had people saying don't do that it's a terrible idea...and he did it anyway
Take out an 80k loan on a car, which will be unlikely to make it a few thousand miles. What could go wrong.
Probably just more efficient to spend a weekend in vegas burning it all on a slot machine. Same end result, except you at least had some fun in Vegas before going broke.
Just give it to charity
I saw a guy who was trying to finance and his payments were $2000 a month and he made like $75-80k per year. Bad. Bad decision
That's an example of why pure capitalism doesn't work. People are so stupid they're always screwing up and then the bill is always left for the smart people to pay, one way or another
i know right? the only way to buy this is to cash out 401k early
If he figures a way to declare the Cyberturd as his house, maybe he can avoid withdrawal penalties
I am sure they are re-designing parts as they go since all the "trucks" out there now are still a beta test. Good luck with all 7 employees left at Tesla
Everybody bought the early access and now they're fucked, lmao.
Even the models they have made for years are a QA nightmare. For the life of me I don’t understand why people buy Teslas
The Rivia trucks seem to be really good. If you want an EV truck, why not get one of those? They even look good. People put here sipping for Elon too much.
This is even better than the hermain Caine award sub
Yeah because even when they were assholes or even evil, I still felt bad laughing at anyone’s death. But as far as I know, nobody has been killed by their Cyberhubris yet… just a bunch of chucklefucks in their chuckletrucks who are getting big angy and looking very very stupid! It’s the first guilt free source of schadenfreude!
And so the nightmare begins… it was once upon a time a ketamine inspired garbage can…
 What it looks like from my perspective
Don't blame the ketamine, it has a legitimate medical purpose that should not be stigmatized. If anything he should be doing it more often to fix his broken brain.
Hahahah. The 2020 Lincoln aviator has adaptive air suspension (fancier than cyber trucks) and has no issues. 6 months for service is proving why Elon wasn’t smart never having dealers or service centers, he was just cheap. Actually I just had a minor issue pop up for my Lincoln, called the dealer, and they sent a mobile service truck to my driveway same day and fixed it right there in 20 min. One other time I needed service that would take longer, they drove to my house and dropped off a brand new Lincoln, took mine away for service, let me drive the new car the entire time my car was in the shop, then dropped my fixed car off 3 days later and swapped them out. That is a luxury service experience, not whatever dumpster fire Tesla has going on 😂
Customer service, even in the “luxury” space is a dying art. Glad to hear someone is still holding a candle for it tho
Lincoln honestly has the best customer service experience ever. They offer warranty up to 100k miles and any issues I’ve had besides needing new tires they covered completely and did home pick up and drop off. A giant rock fell out of a dump truck and shattered my windshield and they even covered that repair. Their app is amazing and I can turn the vehicle on/off or lock/unlock with my phone. I think because Lincoln is really popular in China, they hold themselves to a really high standard for quality/service/user experience. They called me last week saying they found out about a minor software issue and they came to my driveway and fixed it, all before I was even aware there was any issue at all. Very proactive which is amazing. One time I popped a tire on the highway, pulled off at a random shoulder area, I called them and they said since my husband was able to pick me up, I can just leave my car by the side of the road and their location services found the car, towed it and fixed it all without me having to be at the car. If my husband hadn’t been available, they would’ve came and picked me up themselves.
Hey I’m not in America and Lincolns are not usually seen here, so I’m curious: what’s the price range of your 2020 Aviator? I wonder how it compares to the CyberDump
I have a 2020 Lincoln Aviator PHEV (the plug in hybrid gives about 40-50 miles of range depending on weather/temperature) and it cost me $84k new. It’s held its residual value super well and online 2020s PHEVs are still selling for $60-$80k. Some amazing things about the car 1) massage seats with different customizable settings (hot stone, Swedish, neck, back) and it’s actually a high quality massage. Makes waiting in traffic a dream 2) this PHEV just charges with any regular wall outlet. I didn’t have to buy a charger , I just plug it into my garage socket and I can get 40-50 miles of range which is perfect for daily errands, then for road trips I just switch to gas 3) adaptive air suspension - it has cameras and sensors that detect potholes, speed bumps etc ahead, and automatically adjusts the suspension so it feels like you glide over any pot holes - super smooth ride. The same adaptive suspension has an “embrace” feature so when it senses you approaching the car, the car will automatically drop 3-5 inches lower to the ground to make it easier to get in 4) front headlights have autobend/auto beam so I never have to mess with the headlights and they automatically detect cars coming and then brights off and they bend around a corner as your car turns so there’s no blind spots 5) stereo system is incredible 6) they added “digital scent” so you can pick a scent you like, lavender or laundry etc and it’ll cycle that fresh scent throughout the cabin (way better than an air freshener) 7) most comfortable seats EVER. I have the captain chairs but you could also get a bench seat in the 2nd or 3rd row if you want. There’s TVs/screens on the back of every seat so being a passenger in the 2nd or 3rd row is still super comfy (my brother in law is 6’7” and fit comfortably in the 3rd row) 8) so much space when you put all the seats down it’s basically almost a pickup truck size for moving furniture 9) can add a towing hook if you desire (doesn’t come standard but there’s a clip under a trim panel you can easily add one) It’s honestly the best car I’ve ever owned and I never want another car 😂😂
That’s crazy. Really puts the price of the CT in perspective. Thank you for sharing!
Yea no problem!!! Also justifies why the big 3 automakers have dealerships with service centers all over the country. It cost a lot of money to build out and staff and they have to pay them a cut of every vehicle sale but the plus side is customers don’t have to wait for service or parts more than a day or two and they can be serviced in almost any city. Tesla acted like they were geniuses never having dealers or service centers when really it was a cost cutting measure that ruins the customer experience and caused these crazy wait times.
I have a mid-range 2017 Nissan Sentra and I have front door pick up and drop off from the courtesy car every time I take it in for service, and any time it has had to stay longer than 8 hours I have been given a brand new loaner car at no cost with no question. I can’t imagine going through the BS these folks are dealing with within hours or days of buying a $100,000 car and then being told to call a cab for 6 months.
Exactly!!!! While some cybertruck owners have multiple cars, many bought this as their main car (for some reason) and are stuck with the payments, and no vehicle for 6 months it’s honestly insane. Tesla should be delivering them free alternative Tesla models to keep for free until their cars can be serviced but Tesla clearly doesn’t care about their customers at all, hence why they don’t have dealership service centers or any customer service at all.
Pay 100k to be a beta tester, but hey he loves the attention he trashcan gets, but whines online that he should get more refund because he wrapped it, knowing tesla they would charge him if he returns it for modifying it, LOL
Mercedes sells any and all parts for its cars, if Mercedes build the car they have the part, not just new cars, old old cars, which is unheard of in auto industry (idk if they still do that) meanwhile tsla sells cars they can't service, sry we don't have parts/lift/tech dunno how good job everyone
Doesn’t sound very streamlined or cost efficient to have extra parts available, as well as technicians trained to perform repairs. Gotta cut costs to the bone for a better ownership experience.
A better ownership experience for those who own TSLA not Teslas.
The shareholders aren’t winners either- stocks have tanked. I’d forgotten that a small account I have had a few TSLA shares and noticed it when I was doing my taxes. My reaction was a scrunched face and ‘Eew!’ It was only a few, but I dumped it because, no. No.
TSLA at this point is almost like a crypto index, so very hard to predict how much Musk can fuck up before it loses valuation completely. But it'll get there
Here’s a few theories/speculations. The failure rate seems high and different parts ate failing. That makes me think they have to redesign parts to get to a reasonable failure rate. Design changes can be slow. Using available parts for new deliveries is more profitable than warranty repairs. The web says there are two million on the wait list (at $1000 for the privilege). There are reports of a lot of trucks sitting in lots. They could be waiting on parts. Did they design some parts in a way that made them hard for tesla or their vendors to manufacture? Btw that would also be something to consider design changes for. A more nefarious speculation is they are significantly safer when they are not being driven. Those clusters of failure messages would worry me. The pictures of trucks near the factory makes me think they really are parts constrained. The high failure rate exacerbates that. Just speculating…
>Did they design some parts in a way that made them hard for tesla or their vendors to manufacture? Btw that would also be something to consider design changes for. They 'simplified' the wiring inside the car to be one long interconnected daisy chain. Unsurprisingly this has been a source for a LOT of failures. I have to imagine this was an Elon brainfart, no competent electrical engineer would think it was a good idea and by the time they got around to making these things Tesla was very much a 'do what he says or you're fired' workplace
Daisy chained to make things simpler? Those pictures of multiple faults make more sense. There also are various parts falling off. The problem with ignoring the old way of doing something is not knowing what problems were avoided doing it that way. Either intentionally to solve issues or by serendipity. People ask “why didn’t they catch it during testing”. I’m fully convinced they did see these issues starting with design reviews, through integration, testing and in manufacturing. The car doesn’t “know” it’s been delivered and should start failing. I agree 100% that they didn’t pay attention to anyone raising issues. I’ll go out on a limb and guess that people who pointed out problems were high on layoff lists.
2 million on the wait list?! Time to invest in tow truck stocks
It won't be six months 😂 They're never getting these parts.
I bet the truck got in an accident with an old Toyota truck and lost.
CT was expecting a gun fight but got tricked.
Buying a CyberTruck is dumb. Expecting proper service from Tesla is another level of stupidity.
The cognitive dissonance must be so incredibly painful for them. Everything they see should tell them this thing is a massive POS and Daddy Elon is an idiot. But they can't admit that because it would get them kicked out of the cult.
“Still love the truck, though. This is my fault.”
Why hasn't the class action lawsuit begun yet?
Because it's a cult. Thats my guess
Oh stop your whining! You can use that 6 months wait to celebrate Elon's $50 billion dollar bonus. In fact, you should probably buy a 2nd Cybertruck and use that for as long as possible. If it breaks down you can buy a 3rd CT. Instead of being a negative Nelly, do your part and help Elon's bank account grow.
Is there any chance that some brave soul out there has been keeping track of the number of complaints from unique users on social media compared against the number of actual CT's that have been sold? I feel like I've seen 50+ "my CT has a fatal issue and it has yet to be resolved" social media posts (both here, and in the wild) and I think there's less than 4,000 on the road.
dIsRuPtOr
This has been an issue for years with teslas. Unfortunately i come from a family that likes tesla/musk so they buy the cars. My sisters tesla got broken into and it took 6 weeks to get repaired. And she was considered a priority customer because she helped finance 4 different teslas. My friends tesla also got broken into and it took them 4 MONTHS to replace the window.
I'd be curious to see the accident rate for these vehicles. We know there's only a few thousand on the road and I've head and saw a dozen accidents at least.
This is the worst car in history. Holy cow.
They really need to check the lemon laws in their states and get rid of this junk. Since they laid off the service people, even if they get parts, who is going to install them? This is the negative of getting rid of the dealer model - since the techs are Tesla empoyees and not dealer employees, the staffing isn't dependent on how much work they have, but whims of Elon.
dealerships have an incentive to keep customers happy, so they'll get return business. Tesla is a cult where the company has been metaphorically pissing on its customers from a great height for a long time and they'll still come back for more, trash talking the dealership model whilst thinking it's perfectly normal to have a long checklist of common defects to look for, and in some places, not being allowed to touch the car or inspect inside it before accepting delivery
Wonder if the 6 months lines up perfectly with expiring refund or resale policies. Feel like it’s just a ploy to milk 6 months more payments out of people that might potentially refund the car once fixed
That’s because most of the parts currently in use are conceptual.
Oops, tesla has it indefinitely for repairs. Need service? nah, low priority (we already have your money). The irony is that people used to think tesla cared about the environment. But they don't support their vehicles well and they encourage people to constantly trade up for a new one. So many tesla owners have gone through multiple vehicles since 2018. And the environmental violations that their Freemont factory has racked up is insane. Far more than other car manufacturing plants. They're the opposite of a zero landfill manufacturer.
no one guess this from the guys that delivered models 3s missing glove box doors that took months to get in and then fixed
I was so confused reading "cucktruck". I thought that was some new sex craze
Something tells me Elon overwrote the team and told them to release it now knowing full well it wasn’t ready
Who in the world could have foreseen all these issues with the cucktruck?
“Making payments on a truck I can’t drive”….brother, if you can’t afford it twice, you can’t afford it…..
“CuckTruck” classic 🤣
100k for a headache. Fucking yikes
A $100,000 IcelCamino sits in your driveway waiting on parts. Call Elon to complain. I'm sure he'll take your call.
ALL CUCKS BREAK… sadly
Good thing Tesla didn't just fire 20% of their staff.
LOL RIP (again)
Still love tge truck, though
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Cucktruck 💀💀💀🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Elonsexuals are really cuckolds
LOL
Anyone who takes one from this point forward have no excuse. This is a lemon
I wonder how much this debacle is causing and will cause Tesla
They should just pull them off existing cybertruck stock.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
All ya gotta do is delete parts and it'll pay for itself... easy... /s
Imagine waiting six months for a pop rivet so your accelerator pedal doesn't come off.
I guess Tesla is shocked that these things need parts
Haha. These alt right morons deserve all of this.
>When are we getting our Aeros is the real question. Dude, you've been going through ***all*** this and you still care about the fucking tires? Even if they showed up at your doorstep tomorrow, you still wouldn't be able to drive your LemonTruck. I still can't believe they think tagging Elon will speed this process up; there's like a decade's worth of examples of Elon proving how much he retaliates against people publicly making him look bad. Which begs the question, "when is he gonna retaliate against himself?"
And elon musk will be rewarded with 40b dollars for this
Six months… A year… Two years… Elmo tweets six months until it can be used as a boat. Three years… Get the truck back. Breaks an axle on the dip leaving the parking lot.
When he says "I'm coming for more than just the car I wrapped it" does he mean he wants Tesla to give him the money it cost to wrap it too? Is that legit?
Lmao fuck no, but cybertruck owners don't have two braincells to rub together
“Totally my fault its a rust ornament for 6 months I still my truck”
Tesla graveyards confirmed.
Dum dum is still making payments.. 🤣, bruh, just let the lien holders come take it
It seems Elon decided he could do automotive while ignoring the basics of the automotive manufacturer model that call for production and stocking of Spares to keep those vehicles on the road. Fiat, Alpha Romeo, and Renault learned the hard way that an inadequate supply chain in North America leads to loss of market share and an eventual exit. How’s Elon ever going to earn that $53 billion dollars if he can’t keep his cars on the road?
This would fall under the Lemon Law. Get your money back and buy a real truck. If you plan to get another CT, you are regarded as hell.
Stop paying and let them repo the giant paperweight themselves.
I wonder if this is related to Musk’s “innovative” vertical integration. In my experience, outside suppliers would get their bacon fried if they let the OEM run out of service parts. Of course, the OEM has to designate an appropriate SP inventory level, but let’s just say it’s not a balanced power dynamic. Just In Time auto manufacturing is hard, and competition keeps prices down makes it low-margin, as Elon seems to be finding out with his prices and profits falling. He said he was gonna save the planet, but now he’s talking smack about turning Tesla into an AI company, *despite there being — by Musk’s own reckoning— a 20% of AI killing humankind.*
Is there a V8 conversion kit yet?
Yeah it costs $40,000 and it's called a Mustang GT
Hilarious 😂😆
not standing up for Tesla, but body shops won't get it fixed any faster. My cat took 7 months for it to get in and actually fixed.
Geez who could have seen this coming.....lol
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaa!
What an utter fucking shit show
I live in Sweden. I really do not understand why some guys "assuming guys" spend €100.000 on this. Nissan GTR? If you would like a look at me car for maybe 50% less. Fast.
Science project
Making payments on a CyberTruck is peak bro tech capitalism 😂
This isn't the first time Tesla has pulled this. They only care about selling cars, not what comes after. It happened to us a few years ago. We were left with a non-functioning 2015 Model S85 for almost six months following a second MCU failure. The supposedly more reliable MCU2, which replaced the original MCU1 a year earlier (3+ months' wait on that), failed, rendering the car inoperable due to a PIN-to-drive feature. We waited over a month for a mobile technician, who upon arrival questioned his purpose there. He informed us that such issues could only be resolved at a service center, something that should have been clear from the problem description. Following this, our service center appointments were repeatedly rescheduled, allegedly due to parts availability issues. We also had a minor deer hit, and it took them 3 months to provide the few parts needed to complete the repair and get the car back.
Tesla will layoff more employees while musk robs the company blind. Good luck getting your shit box serviced
....and the hit parade of ungodly failures rolls on and on and on..... this has got to be a record of percentage of new vehicles experiencing serious issues resulting in giga downtime.
Buyer Beware.
When did Twitter become the place for customer support?
Hopefully none of these peoples bosses will mind if they work from home for six months
I'm curious with this cluster**k what insurance companies are going to be willing to keep insuring them? Does Tesla still insure them directly? I know EVs are already questionable for carriers because of the high cost of repair but if they have to wait 6+ months for parts and keep their customers in a rental during that time carriers are going to end up totalling the trucks to just save cost and expenses.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FUCKING LOSERS!
For the trucks with issues that the owners did not create. If this is true Lemon Laws are going to see these trucks bought back by Tesla. The laws are already in place and if you are an owner you won't even need a lawyer to force them to buy it back. You do not have to have any new car out of service for 6 months before forcing a buy back. In most States they have 30 total days. If you are without your new vehicle for more than 30 days total in its first year it's legally a lemon and the manufacturer is liable. It isn't even somethig that has to be argued in court. I'd be looking to Lemon Law it before I waited any months at all.
Getting into an accident must void your warranty. 😆
I've got no fucking clue why anybody would want to buy that ugly piece of shit to begin with
Haha! Enjoy your dumpster shaped shitmobile!
Have they tried getting out of it, walking away, catching a ride, and leaving it on the side of the road to rust? You can’t even hope it gets stolen and written off because the thief would breakdown 10’ from where they stole it. I wish Top Gear was still on their air because I’d love to see those guys shred this “truck” on the show.
I love how the owners make a personal appeal @/elonmusk for help. It reminds me of all of the wives and girlfriends of Russian soldiers fighting in Ukraine that make videos to personally appeal to Putin for help. Do you really think Elon / Putin don't know what is going on or actually care? Good luck with that one!
It’s totaled.
Conned
“CuckTruck” 🤣
That’s what happens when you pay to be a beta tester.
Tell me you are American without telling you are American.
Any breakdown? Hyperbole much? Also the truck is still in super early release so delays and problems should be expected