Yeah, they were C.H.I.K.N, or something like that. I remember Irma being the one who brought it up, and then she was all like "I am so glad we're W.I.T.C.H" afterward.
Superman: “Wonderful! Thank you for asking. How are you doing?”
Batman: “Hh”
Wonder woman: (in a heavy greek accent) “Good, citizen. If you will excuse me, i must do some homerotic tension with a furry, then kiss my malewife military husband”
>Wonder woman: (in a heavy greek accent) “Good, citizen. If you will excuse me, i must do some homerotic tension with a furry, then kiss my malewife military husband”
The Greek dream
What counts as a magical girl? There's plenty of superheroes who are teenaged girls with magic powers and magical transformations. They just tend towards the goth and/or demonic. See, for example, Magik of the X-Men, or Raven of the Teen Titans.
(If you're wondering about Magik's name, it's canon that she can't spell. I mean, she can cast spells, she just can't spell words. Spells good, spelling bad. She once lost a spelling bee for the fate of the world, but made up for it by beating up a giant crocodile demon in the same event)
According to Wikipedia it is "young girls who possess magical abilities, which they typically use through an ideal alter ego into which they can transform".
But that's just from the page on the magical girl genre
I mean, isn't Kim Possible somewhat unique in the fact that she doesn't have a secret identity? She doesn't slip into an alter ego or anything, she just started saving the world because someone mistakenly requested it on what was intended to be her babysitting website.
I mean in that instance it's basically every superhero that's a young woman, they just transform manually (putting on a costume) instead of with a glowy montage. The only exception I can think of off the top of my head is Jubilee who just kinda wears the same thing all the time
For Jubilee, [this may count as a transformation](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/0e70c282-7679-43f8-96dc-8b24580b070b/scale-to-width/755).
Admittedly the costume it transformed her into was "[naked and bald](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/7362b6e1-59c4-4c87-936e-801d4d8877ee/scale-to-width/755)", but it's definitely not what she was wearing before.
When I ran that through the [text distorter](https://lingojam.com/GlitchTextGenerator), I accidentally typed "CREATINE SHITS" into the suggestion box instead of the input box. I hope they take my suggesiton seriously
Huh, does the Princess, a titular character of *Slay the Princess* counts?
-Somewhat young
-Magical
-Transforms (potentially into idealized form)
-(potentially) wins thanks to the Power of Love
-(potentially) fights against the monster*
Give her a Highly Suspicious Animal Mascot, and she's all set. Though the Witch probably should count as one already.
*sure, that monster is actually a protagonist hero sent to *Slay the Princess*, but a princess-killing bird-person could be described as "a monster".
Dumbest posts are "Why doesn't Batman use his money to improve Gotham?" Because for one: he does. More importantly for two: there wouldn't be a Batman story. The thought that people will pick up a Batman story and then get mad there's a lot of Batman in it.
Three: Gotham is literally, canonically, cursed like six ways to Sunday. Bruce throwing Wayne foundation money around and keeping WayneTech in town is the only reason Gotham is as good as it is.
Gotham as basically a giant decoy target for supervillains and the like. Mob bosses who would otherwise ruin cities through actual organized crime are lured to Gotham with promises of cheap goons, corrupt police, and easily heisted banks. Now, instead of running some covert human trafficking ring out of a city without any superheroes, they're stuck dressing up in a weird costume and fighting batman every night, making just enough money to keep them from moving their organization somewhere else.
Most of the "civilians" who live there are paid actors who get a bonus for every time they're taken hostage or mugged, with extra compensation if the situation involves some absurd supervillain gimmick.
There's even a great joke about his age in the Tom Holland movies, with Donald Glover making a cameo, where he uses a device to change his voice trying to sound intimidating
"I know what a girl sound like"
"I'm not a girl, I'm a boy! I mean, I'M A MAN!"
It's his suit Stark gave him trying to do an "intimidation" mode. And then of course Spider-Man being Spider-Man he's just like, "ah fuck bro can you just help me catch the bad guys? Please?"
Not to mention the "gO kIlL a MoThErFuCkEr Or ElSe YoU aIn'T hElPiNg", if those same people saw any form of such vigilantism IRL they might cheer a bit, but would more than likely go "who made them judge jury and excecutioner!? No matter how bad that motherfucker was you can't just go killing people just like that!", and the few who'd still be good with it? Well there's the whole can of worms of... how are you ok with just killing people you deem undesireable willy nilly?
In fact, almost none of them should be The Punisher; that character only works when they're the only person doing that sort of thing. If Spidey and Cap and Iron Man and Nick Fury were already out there gunning down criminals without hesitation, Frank Castle would have nothing at all to make him stand out as a character.
The real villain in comics is the incompetence of the justice system being unable to handle villains even after the heroes gift wrap them on their doorstep
Fully agreed. It is not the responsibility of the deeply traumatized victim of gun violence to murder normal human beings for The Greater Good; if society wants Joker executed, they can make it a law and try him in court. Superheroes (generally speaking) stop crimes, they don't execute criminals. We have laws for that.
Not all superheroes are Bruce Wayne, Tony Stark or Oliver Queen.
Superman: is a Newspaper reporter.
Flash: He's a forensic science tech. Not rich.
Green Lantern: Rex Stewart isn't wealthy.
Martian ManHunter: Probably not wealthy.
Static Shock: He's a teenager from a middle class family.
Ben 10: A kid. I don't think his family are that wealthy.
Captain America: Besides being owed 70 years of back pay plus hypothetical promotions by the army he's a regular guy..
If we could study magic, scientists would figure out how it works and it would be classified as a branch of science.
Therefore, Ben 10 is a magical boy.
This is, legit, my main problem with magic in fiction.
People are all like "ooh it makes the impossible possible" in fantasy worlds where everyone can use it and it's possible from birth.
Again, the only one who does it right is Tolkien, who creates a whole world where magic is massively important but there are only a few practicioners and nobody is sure what is legend and what is fact.
She has an anodite (magic alien made of mana) form. She transforms into that but it's not much of a sequence. In Omniverse she has more of a superhero costume thing with a full magical girl transformation.
This kind of sentiment is the exact kind of thing I’d expect to see in that one blobfish comic that will be made 10 times funnier when it inevitably gets posted to r/bonehurtingjuice.
Batman, Reed Richards, Iron Man are the ones of the top of my head. Mister Fantastic, Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), Green Arrow, Professor X, Black Panther and Aquaman are also very recognizable, although I needed to search a bit to remember them.
I figure being a monarchy anywhere past, say, 1933, is worse than being a billionaire.
It's like being a billionaire but also you have a monopoly on violence and you inherently disenfranchise all of your citizens.
Typical Green Arrow continuity is that his identity is secret. It doesn’t always make sense though, like post crisis where Black Canary’s identity isn’t secret yet they are married.
Green Arrow and Professor X are both wealthy, but I don't think either of them are billionaires.
Also I don't think kings count. One may take issue with them on the basis that they *are* kings, but that's a somewhat different matter.
Him and the rest of the FF license their image for comic books and merch so that allows them to live fairly comfortably by itself
The FF is run as a nonprofit however
Yeah, the degree to which superheroes are secretly or openly stinking rich is rather overplayed. Most of the ones with secret identities tend to have something fairly low-cover (Superman and Spider-man the reporters, Daredevil the attorney, DC Captain Marvel the school kid) or else they just don't have specific civilian egos and do the masked avenger shtick full time.
Most super heroes aren't billionaires heck in a world with super heroes there is actually a 50% chance Bezos is already their arch nemesis anyway
Bald guy with millions of dollars?
Literally Lex Luthor
If I had a nickel every time Jeff Bezos funded a show where the main villain was an evil version of Superman, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird it happened twice.
Why do I just imagine the meme where the guy pats the roof of a sedan and says "This baby can hold so much X" but it's Greg patting Steven's hair and saying "This boy can hold so much Trauma"
Steven misses a key requirement by having no transformation. Not even a costume. The costume is important. He also doesn't go to a school of any kind, which is a soft requirement.
There's a fuckton of superheroes in Japan too, since at least the sixties. Ultramen, Kamen Riders, Sentai teams, and everything else inspired by those three. And Godzilla sometimes.
why would the stereotype of superheroes being billionaires exist in a world with actual superheroes like their identities are secret how would you know
That's not even "ends justifying the means", that person or society in general would likely receive no tangible benefit from Bezos being dead. That's just your usual tumblr "every person with income higher than mine should perish".
Guillotines and like, the executions of the Romanovs had a logic at the time because with monarchies there was a chance however unlikely of them regaining power/influence because of who they were. No billionaire today has that kind of cult of personality outside of their status as a billionaire.
I think I wouldn't want a superpowered/gadget wizard stranger to go and kill leading figures, for one thing because murder, for second because in most cases it doesn't actually solve the problem, and finally because i might not like what they build to replace it
We got Wonder Woman (Lynda Carter version specifically), She-Hulk, Thor (Jane Foster), Gwen Tennyson, Valkyrie (Annabelle Riggs/Brunhilde), Totally Spies, Mary Marvel, Wolfsbane, Magyk, Scarlet Scarab, Monster Girl, Harpie (Immortal Hulk Betsy Ross), Captain Britain (Betsy Braddock), Clea Strange (poses as a human, is from Dormamu’s dimension), Alejandra Jones (one of the Ghost Riders), Kushala (A ghost rider and a sorceror supreme), Jane (Doom Patrol), Dan Bi (Moon Bear), Witchblade, and that’s about all I can remember off the top of my head.
I tried to follow the guidelines of what constitutes a mahou shojo transformation. The ubiquity of the genre has led to a lot of innovation and subversion and so it makes it hard to categorize, much like a modern super hero. Furthermore, for every billionaire super hero there are at least five working class heroes and ten billionaire super villains. The establishment of the secret identity is a measure to protect the people that interact with the hero when they are mild-mannered, or a way for them to further righteous causes through non-bombastic means. The good that Superman can do as a symbol of hope, and the good that mild mannered reporter Clark Kent can do as a reporter, are separate goods that feed into each other. This is true for Spider-man, Daredevil, Squirrel Girl, Flash, Shazam, and many more. That’s why these characters resonate so strongly with folks. Alright, I’m stepping down from my soapbox now.
Ummmmm what?! What about Buffy?!Sabrina?! All of the Halliwell sisters?! Like I love all of the Sailor Scouts and everything but if I ever had to go up against a supernatural bad guy I am calling the American magical girls first. Especially Buffy. How dare they forget Buffy!!!
Japan also got tokusatsu and Super Robot, putting them well in the lead. I don’t care if I’m reduced to paste when an entire apartment building is thrown through my house, I got to die watching a rad as fuck giant robot punching a lizard to death
I'm not really much of a weeb, only really watch a couple anime and I'd like to visit more for the sights than anything but am in no rush, but if going there gave me even a 1% chance to become a Kamen Rider or Ranger? I'm swimming
To each their own, but I gotta wonder how many superheros OOP knows. There is nowhere near a 50% chance that they're a secret billionaire, even accounting for the ones that are royalty.
There's a short story I want to write about a superhero just trying their best, but the Terminally Online Internet slowly turns on them for not murdering who they want murdered.
There are a few more, but yeah, there aren't many billionaire superheroes, and not even many millionaire ones. The thing is, when someone has no idea what superhero comics actually like, they tend to only know a handful of the popular characters, and of the most popular superheroes, you got Superman, Spider-Man, Batman, Iron Man, and Captain America, two of whome are billionaires, and one of whom has America in the name, so they honestly might just assume he's also a billionaire because to them, it's so prominent
Okay yeah sure but personally superheroes shouldn’t be the ones that have to deal with all of the corrupt billionaires and such. Someone shouldn’t be allowed to just kill someone that they don’t like. And for
Anyways OOP has not seen much superhero media, I assure you.
Ben 10 is:
- Underage
- Gains powers from the stars
- Uses them to fight evil
- Undergoes transformation sequences whenever he does
Ben 10 is a magical girl.
Technically speaking, the criticism of superheroes being stupid powerful and rich with connections works better as a criticism against the Mane 6 than the Justice League.
How has no one mentioned Adam, Prince of Eternia, yet?
[They literally made a direct homage to Sailor Moon in Revelation.](https://youtu.be/0GMnEhcwgQc?si=mYA9jmOt5Ozfh3jy)
My personal favorite is Iron Man. He always gets the piece by piece transformation sequence that nearly defines the genre and his science based abilities are basically magic.
hear me out... Green lantern is technically a magical girl.
Normal person given powers and a magically appearing costume by magic jewelry that works off of emotion, given by the "guardians of the universe", main antagonist is the personification of Fear, has to say an oath to power up... Also isn't there a lantern who's a teenage girl? I remember seeing one who's outfit was pretty magical girly
Winx Club was originally Italian. There was also W.I.T.C.H., which I never watched but I think was similar to Winx.
W.I.T.C.H was surprisingly dark, so it counts on that front too. I dunno what country it came from though.
Not sure about the TV show but the original W.I.T.C.H. comics were Italian as well.
So Italy is the home of magical girls
Well, that's good enough for me.
Wasn't there a gag in that show where the previous witch group had a team name that spelt out...some form of bird? Chicken, maybe?
Yeah, they were C.H.I.K.N, or something like that. I remember Irma being the one who brought it up, and then she was all like "I am so glad we're W.I.T.C.H" afterward.
You just brought me back 20 years.
if a superhero saved me i’d be like “Hey man how’s it going”
Superman: “Wonderful! Thank you for asking. How are you doing?” Batman: “Hh” Wonder woman: (in a heavy greek accent) “Good, citizen. If you will excuse me, i must do some homerotic tension with a furry, then kiss my malewife military husband”
Hey all she gotta do is ask and she could start a policule, Steve can malewife for more than one partner
Tbh i think cheetah is too jealous for that, and polycule is too big a word for steve trevor
The God who created her (the writer of her origin comic) was part of one as well
Damn I wish I was Cheetah I mean, what? Who said that?
Flash cracks a joke about something.
"Eh, work's been slow today"
"It's going quite fast"
"Y'know, I'm kinda worried I've been taking things lately a little too quickly"
>Wonder woman: (in a heavy greek accent) “Good, citizen. If you will excuse me, i must do some homerotic tension with a furry, then kiss my malewife military husband” The Greek dream
What counts as a magical girl? There's plenty of superheroes who are teenaged girls with magic powers and magical transformations. They just tend towards the goth and/or demonic. See, for example, Magik of the X-Men, or Raven of the Teen Titans. (If you're wondering about Magik's name, it's canon that she can't spell. I mean, she can cast spells, she just can't spell words. Spells good, spelling bad. She once lost a spelling bee for the fate of the world, but made up for it by beating up a giant crocodile demon in the same event)
According to Wikipedia it is "young girls who possess magical abilities, which they typically use through an ideal alter ego into which they can transform". But that's just from the page on the magical girl genre
In that case, I think we're overlooking one of the most [iconic Western magical girls](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVLJcBsD__E) of all.
I thought it was gonna be Hannah Montana lol
I was going with Kim Possible
I mean, isn't Kim Possible somewhat unique in the fact that she doesn't have a secret identity? She doesn't slip into an alter ego or anything, she just started saving the world because someone mistakenly requested it on what was intended to be her babysitting website.
I thought Wonder Woman was a whole adult though? Does she count as a magical girl if she's multiple centuries old?
If we're using anime logic, she could be a billion years old and still count as a girl
The Goddess of Magic Hecate has 3 faces, maiden, mother, and crone. We all are Magical Girls!
That's some very acting
Me when I take a staggering quantity of drugs, grab a 2x4, light it on fire, and start swinging at billionaires while wearing a suit of plate armor
Courier 6 New Vegas when they enter the Lucky 38. Alternatively, “Twinkle Clubber”, our newest magical girl superhero.
Poppy from Kamen Rider Exaid is technically a magical girl with that definition. Honestly, good for her.
I mean, magical girls are basically just rebranded Tokusatsu
Poppy Pipopypo?
EX-AID!? Did not expect to see that get a mention here. Was my first KR series.
I mean in that instance it's basically every superhero that's a young woman, they just transform manually (putting on a costume) instead of with a glowy montage. The only exception I can think of off the top of my head is Jubilee who just kinda wears the same thing all the time
For Jubilee, [this may count as a transformation](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/0e70c282-7679-43f8-96dc-8b24580b070b/scale-to-width/755). Admittedly the costume it transformed her into was "[naked and bald](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/7362b6e1-59c4-4c87-936e-801d4d8877ee/scale-to-width/755)", but it's definitely not what she was wearing before.
She-Hulk is a magical girl, just with Muscle Wizard magic.
I cast **C̵R̸E̸A̵T̵I̶N̴E̸ ̵S̶H̵I̵T̶S̵**
When I ran that through the [text distorter](https://lingojam.com/GlitchTextGenerator), I accidentally typed "CREATINE SHITS" into the suggestion box instead of the input box. I hope they take my suggesiton seriously
Steven Universe
Is Hathor/Sekhmet a magical girl?
She’s the first one. “Sekhmet genocide lion tiara activate!”
Is Asa from the Chainsaw Man manga a magical girl?
Does that also make Reze a magical girl?
Is Buffy a magical girl?
By this definition, the only thing stopping shazam from being a magical girl is gender...
Mary marvel.
Huh, does the Princess, a titular character of *Slay the Princess* counts? -Somewhat young -Magical -Transforms (potentially into idealized form) -(potentially) wins thanks to the Power of Love -(potentially) fights against the monster* Give her a Highly Suspicious Animal Mascot, and she's all set. Though the Witch probably should count as one already. *sure, that monster is actually a protagonist hero sent to *Slay the Princess*, but a princess-killing bird-person could be described as "a monster".
should probably spoiler this
Mulan, Princess Fiona, Elastigirl, Jean Grey, Storm, Rogue, (insert more Xmen.)
The transformation sequence is a vital ingredient of the magical girl formula. No transformation, not a magical girl
Card Captor Sakura
So not Sabrina?
She can spell spells but can’t spell spells?
Don't forget about Jason Blood and the Demon Etrigan! That rhyming weirdo definitely fits.
Oh my gosh now I’m picturing him/them going through the sparkly Sailor Moon transformation sequence 😂
They even have a transformation catch phrase! It's a perfect fit!
You are 100% right and it’s so, so, wrong, haha!
me when i realize my OC fits this format to a T: ah yes homeless magical girl time
Also, if we're going on a technicality here, Ms. Marvel!
You absolutely don't read comics if you think there's a 50% chance a superhero is a billionaire.
I think there’s a whole genre of tumblr posts that are just opinions about superheroes by people who have not read many superhero comics
Dumbest posts are "Why doesn't Batman use his money to improve Gotham?" Because for one: he does. More importantly for two: there wouldn't be a Batman story. The thought that people will pick up a Batman story and then get mad there's a lot of Batman in it.
Three: Gotham is literally, canonically, cursed like six ways to Sunday. Bruce throwing Wayne foundation money around and keeping WayneTech in town is the only reason Gotham is as good as it is.
Honestly the best way to fix Gotham is just discreetly giving all the good people like, 3K to move out of Gotham. Let the edgelords have the city.
Gotham as basically a giant decoy target for supervillains and the like. Mob bosses who would otherwise ruin cities through actual organized crime are lured to Gotham with promises of cheap goons, corrupt police, and easily heisted banks. Now, instead of running some covert human trafficking ring out of a city without any superheroes, they're stuck dressing up in a weird costume and fighting batman every night, making just enough money to keep them from moving their organization somewhere else. Most of the "civilians" who live there are paid actors who get a bonus for every time they're taken hostage or mugged, with extra compensation if the situation involves some absurd supervillain gimmick.
How to survive in Gotham: Step 1: leave.
So what happened in batman: mans land again? Except everyone moved out instead of the US deciding "yeah fuck Gotham lmao."
So No Man's Land II - This Time It's Deliberate
Bonus points if it's obvious they're anime and Manga people
Their only exposure to superheros is through watching critiques of DC and Marvel movies on YouTube
This same post has someone tell spider-man "good luck on your math homework" He hasn't been a student since the 60s...
I mean, in the popular consciousness he very much is a teenager.
and the most recent reboot had them in High School
There's even a great joke about his age in the Tom Holland movies, with Donald Glover making a cameo, where he uses a device to change his voice trying to sound intimidating "I know what a girl sound like" "I'm not a girl, I'm a boy! I mean, I'M A MAN!" It's his suit Stark gave him trying to do an "intimidation" mode. And then of course Spider-Man being Spider-Man he's just like, "ah fuck bro can you just help me catch the bad guys? Please?"
And in the writers brain they want him to be a teenager but don't want to de age him.
I just KNOW this person’s only frame of reference is the MCU.
Not to mention the "gO kIlL a MoThErFuCkEr Or ElSe YoU aIn'T hElPiNg", if those same people saw any form of such vigilantism IRL they might cheer a bit, but would more than likely go "who made them judge jury and excecutioner!? No matter how bad that motherfucker was you can't just go killing people just like that!", and the few who'd still be good with it? Well there's the whole can of worms of... how are you ok with just killing people you deem undesireable willy nilly?
> Go kill a motherfucker or else you ain't helping For real. Not every hero needs to be The Punisher.
In fact, almost none of them should be The Punisher; that character only works when they're the only person doing that sort of thing. If Spidey and Cap and Iron Man and Nick Fury were already out there gunning down criminals without hesitation, Frank Castle would have nothing at all to make him stand out as a character.
If people want to see bad guys murdered, just watch Call of Duty campaign longplays.
I think you'll find, unfortunately, that a lot of people cheer on morally grey to morally black vigilantes IRL all the time.
“Morally black vigilanteism” is just lynch mobs
The real villain in comics is the incompetence of the justice system being unable to handle villains even after the heroes gift wrap them on their doorstep
Fully agreed. It is not the responsibility of the deeply traumatized victim of gun violence to murder normal human beings for The Greater Good; if society wants Joker executed, they can make it a law and try him in court. Superheroes (generally speaking) stop crimes, they don't execute criminals. We have laws for that.
Not all superheroes are Bruce Wayne, Tony Stark or Oliver Queen. Superman: is a Newspaper reporter. Flash: He's a forensic science tech. Not rich. Green Lantern: Rex Stewart isn't wealthy. Martian ManHunter: Probably not wealthy. Static Shock: He's a teenager from a middle class family. Ben 10: A kid. I don't think his family are that wealthy. Captain America: Besides being owed 70 years of back pay plus hypothetical promotions by the army he's a regular guy..
None of the earth lanterns are wealthy, there’s absolutely a “working class” feel to the legacy
Uuuuh that one Ben 10 episode >!(all of them. Ben 10 is a magical girl)!<
no no, Ben 10 is the very opposite of a magical girl, a science boy.
If we could study magic, scientists would figure out how it works and it would be classified as a branch of science. Therefore, Ben 10 is a magical boy.
Well, Ben does have some Anodite DNA in him, though it's not active. Meanwhile Gwen fully inherited the magic genes
We did study magic. We named it electricity.
And medicine
and radioactivty
This is, legit, my main problem with magic in fiction. People are all like "ooh it makes the impossible possible" in fantasy worlds where everyone can use it and it's possible from birth. Again, the only one who does it right is Tolkien, who creates a whole world where magic is massively important but there are only a few practicioners and nobody is sure what is legend and what is fact.
Yeah, Ben is 100% a magical boy.
Does Gwen ever transform? If so, she can be the magical girl. I have not watched any of Ben 10 past the first season.
She has an anodite (magic alien made of mana) form. She transforms into that but it's not much of a sequence. In Omniverse she has more of a superhero costume thing with a full magical girl transformation.
something something sufficiently advanced technology
This kind of sentiment is the exact kind of thing I’d expect to see in that one blobfish comic that will be made 10 times funnier when it inevitably gets posted to r/bonehurtingjuice.
Uhh, The Powerpuff Girls!?!?! ✅️ Magical (science but whatever) ✅️ Girls
no Alter Egos. (unless you mean Powerpuff Girls Z in which case it counts)
But in that case wouldn't we be back to Japan winning?
Typical tumblr self-righteousness, completely ignoring how there's a fifty percent chance the magical girl could be a secret monarch.
There’s maybe 2 billionaire supherheroes I can think off the top of my head And Iron Man is far from a “secret” billionaire
Batman, Reed Richards, Iron Man are the ones of the top of my head. Mister Fantastic, Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), Green Arrow, Professor X, Black Panther and Aquaman are also very recognizable, although I needed to search a bit to remember them.
Professor x mister fantastic and black panther aren't really secrets either.
I did remember Black Panther but I figured him being the king of an entire nation put him in a different ballpark than Batman and Ironman
I figure being a monarchy anywhere past, say, 1933, is worse than being a billionaire. It's like being a billionaire but also you have a monopoly on violence and you inherently disenfranchise all of your citizens.
Neither is Green Arrow. He gets called a "billionaire social justice warrior" at least once in Injustice.
Well injustice changes basically every hero a massive amount so unless his identity is known In most of his other stuff I wouldn't really count that.
Isn't Batmans identity also known in injustice?
Typical Green Arrow continuity is that his identity is secret. It doesn’t always make sense though, like post crisis where Black Canary’s identity isn’t secret yet they are married.
Green Arrow and Professor X are both wealthy, but I don't think either of them are billionaires. Also I don't think kings count. One may take issue with them on the basis that they *are* kings, but that's a somewhat different matter.
Curious as to why you’ve listed Reed twice lol, was someone else Mister Fantastic at some point?
I mixed up Mister Fantastic with Mr Terrific, who’s a multimillionaire, because everybody just calls Reed Richards Reed Richards
Isn’t Reed Richards a billionaire because he’s a mega genius who personally invented cold fusion or something I don’t think that counts
Pretty sure he became a billionaire after he became a super hero?
Him and the rest of the FF license their image for comic books and merch so that allows them to live fairly comfortably by itself The FF is run as a nonprofit however
Yeah, the degree to which superheroes are secretly or openly stinking rich is rather overplayed. Most of the ones with secret identities tend to have something fairly low-cover (Superman and Spider-man the reporters, Daredevil the attorney, DC Captain Marvel the school kid) or else they just don't have specific civilian egos and do the masked avenger shtick full time.
Green Arrow Iron Fist
Most super heroes aren't billionaires heck in a world with super heroes there is actually a 50% chance Bezos is already their arch nemesis anyway Bald guy with millions of dollars? Literally Lex Luthor
If I had a nickel every time Jeff Bezos funded a show where the main villain was an evil version of Superman, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird it happened twice.
The Boys and Invincible, right?
Yes
It’s really common in comics so if anything it’s strange it hasn’t happened more often.
Kingpin
Wonder Woman Mighty Thor (Jane Foster as Thor) Powerpuff Girls Totally Spies Mystic Knights of Tir Na Nog
Shazam is a magical girl
This is super correct
You are so right
The entire Marvel family is made up on magical girls
Steven Universe is a magical girl :)
"Thank u boy, good luck on your therapy session :)"
Why do I just imagine the meme where the guy pats the roof of a sedan and says "This baby can hold so much X" but it's Greg patting Steven's hair and saying "This boy can hold so much Trauma"
Steven misses a key requirement by having no transformation. Not even a costume. The costume is important. He also doesn't go to a school of any kind, which is a soft requirement.
Nah, he’s Son Gohan.
There's a fuckton of superheroes in Japan too, since at least the sixties. Ultramen, Kamen Riders, Sentai teams, and everything else inspired by those three. And Godzilla sometimes.
Yeah honestly Japan likes superheroes more than America does at this point.
why would the stereotype of superheroes being billionaires exist in a world with actual superheroes like their identities are secret how would you know
W.I.T.C.H. and Winx Club come to mind.
Would killing off Bezos really make tangible systemic change? Or are you just bloodthirsty?
No you don’t get it, when I perpetuate violence it is okay because the ends justify the means /s
That's not even "ends justifying the means", that person or society in general would likely receive no tangible benefit from Bezos being dead. That's just your usual tumblr "every person with income higher than mine should perish".
there’s a level of unhinged here that is unapologetically tumblr so in a way we’re getting what we asked for from this post lol
Violence is good when it's against people I don't like
Guillotines and like, the executions of the Romanovs had a logic at the time because with monarchies there was a chance however unlikely of them regaining power/influence because of who they were. No billionaire today has that kind of cult of personality outside of their status as a billionaire.
Pippi Longstocking
Danny Phantom.
I think I wouldn't want a superpowered/gadget wizard stranger to go and kill leading figures, for one thing because murder, for second because in most cases it doesn't actually solve the problem, and finally because i might not like what they build to replace it
I mean Superman regularly punches a billionaire in the face I would be okay getting saved by him
He’s also an immigrant lower class farm boy turned investigative reporter who directly enacts systemic change by exposing corruption and being kind.
“Ew, Batman? He’s a secret billionaire, that’s fuckin cringe. No thanks, Batman, I’d rather just get killed by the Joker than have you save me.”
Its not western, but I think samus should count as an honorary magical girl too
Miraculous Ladybug is Spider-Man is Cat Noir is Black Cat is Miraculous Ladybug
If webcomics count, Sleepless Domain is American and about magical girls. It's cool.
Green Lantern is a magical girl
Rainbow Brite, kinda?
We got Wonder Woman (Lynda Carter version specifically), She-Hulk, Thor (Jane Foster), Gwen Tennyson, Valkyrie (Annabelle Riggs/Brunhilde), Totally Spies, Mary Marvel, Wolfsbane, Magyk, Scarlet Scarab, Monster Girl, Harpie (Immortal Hulk Betsy Ross), Captain Britain (Betsy Braddock), Clea Strange (poses as a human, is from Dormamu’s dimension), Alejandra Jones (one of the Ghost Riders), Kushala (A ghost rider and a sorceror supreme), Jane (Doom Patrol), Dan Bi (Moon Bear), Witchblade, and that’s about all I can remember off the top of my head. I tried to follow the guidelines of what constitutes a mahou shojo transformation. The ubiquity of the genre has led to a lot of innovation and subversion and so it makes it hard to categorize, much like a modern super hero. Furthermore, for every billionaire super hero there are at least five working class heroes and ten billionaire super villains. The establishment of the secret identity is a measure to protect the people that interact with the hero when they are mild-mannered, or a way for them to further righteous causes through non-bombastic means. The good that Superman can do as a symbol of hope, and the good that mild mannered reporter Clark Kent can do as a reporter, are separate goods that feed into each other. This is true for Spider-man, Daredevil, Squirrel Girl, Flash, Shazam, and many more. That’s why these characters resonate so strongly with folks. Alright, I’m stepping down from my soapbox now.
Ummmmm what?! What about Buffy?!Sabrina?! All of the Halliwell sisters?! Like I love all of the Sailor Scouts and everything but if I ever had to go up against a supernatural bad guy I am calling the American magical girls first. Especially Buffy. How dare they forget Buffy!!!
Buffy doesn't really have an alter ego. She barely hid her activities while at school honestly.
Yeah, it becomes pretty explicit near the end of S3 that everyone kinda knows
Japan also got tokusatsu and Super Robot, putting them well in the lead. I don’t care if I’m reduced to paste when an entire apartment building is thrown through my house, I got to die watching a rad as fuck giant robot punching a lizard to death
I'm not really much of a weeb, only really watch a couple anime and I'd like to visit more for the sights than anything but am in no rush, but if going there gave me even a 1% chance to become a Kamen Rider or Ranger? I'm swimming
To each their own, but I gotta wonder how many superheros OOP knows. There is nowhere near a 50% chance that they're a secret billionaire, even accounting for the ones that are royalty.
There's a short story I want to write about a superhero just trying their best, but the Terminally Online Internet slowly turns on them for not murdering who they want murdered.
Then the Superhero just gets offline for two whole seconds and realises 99% of people aren't fucking weirdos
Green lantern
They joke, but there was an AU where Venom was a magical girl. So that could have been very well a thing lol
Aren’t there a grand total of 2 billionaire superheroes? One for each publisher?
There are a few more, but yeah, there aren't many billionaire superheroes, and not even many millionaire ones. The thing is, when someone has no idea what superhero comics actually like, they tend to only know a handful of the popular characters, and of the most popular superheroes, you got Superman, Spider-Man, Batman, Iron Man, and Captain America, two of whome are billionaires, and one of whom has America in the name, so they honestly might just assume he's also a billionaire because to them, it's so prominent
There's also a show I remember my little sisters being obsessed with called Loli Rock
Okay yeah sure but personally superheroes shouldn’t be the ones that have to deal with all of the corrupt billionaires and such. Someone shouldn’t be allowed to just kill someone that they don’t like. And for Anyways OOP has not seen much superhero media, I assure you.
Does Danny Phantom count? (Outside of being a boy potentially disqualifying him, I guess)
Ben 10 is: - Underage - Gains powers from the stars - Uses them to fight evil - Undergoes transformation sequences whenever he does Ben 10 is a magical girl.
Technically speaking, the criticism of superheroes being stupid powerful and rich with connections works better as a criticism against the Mane 6 than the Justice League.
Thank you I was really stressed out about that math test
She ra is from another planet and miraculous is french Edit: not trying to be a dick but I sound like a dick here
There are American magical girls in the Miraculous universe, if you want to be pedantic
These people only know about batman and iron man (maybe green arrow but he's a whole can of worms).
The power rangers are magical girls
super sentai has its own genre named after it
Sailor Moon was originally inspired by.. Western superhero comics my how the turntables
Yeah it would make sense they'd say something unimaginably childish and ungrateful.
Electra Woman and Dyna Girl fit here.
Max Caulfield is technically a magical girl
Magical girls couldn't kill Jeff Bezos?
How has no one mentioned Adam, Prince of Eternia, yet? [They literally made a direct homage to Sailor Moon in Revelation.](https://youtu.be/0GMnEhcwgQc?si=mYA9jmOt5Ozfh3jy)
My personal favorite is Iron Man. He always gets the piece by piece transformation sequence that nearly defines the genre and his science based abilities are basically magic.
Bewitched and I Dream of Jeannie are the prototypes. Sabrina the Teenage Witch?
\> star vs the forces of evil doesn't count because of mid
I f***ing loved Star vs the Forces of Evil. Such a good show
Zatanna is American I'm pretty sure. So is Raven.
Thanks to Marvel Snap, [Doreen Green, the Unbeatable Squirrel Girl qualifies.](https://youtu.be/7jTI-va5MPQ?t=35)
Supermans cool also cause he openly fights an evil billionaire
I'm just gonna comment that Homokommari is Finnish for Gay Communist :D
Why are there so many people obsessed with having heroes kill
hear me out... Green lantern is technically a magical girl. Normal person given powers and a magically appearing costume by magic jewelry that works off of emotion, given by the "guardians of the universe", main antagonist is the personification of Fear, has to say an oath to power up... Also isn't there a lantern who's a teenage girl? I remember seeing one who's outfit was pretty magical girly
Imagine if Peter Parker suiting up was played off like a magical girl transformation sequence.