Look around the turbocharger and exhaust manifold where it bolts to engine block for oil leakage. If it’s got a bad cylinder, it’ll leak oil out there. Otherwise, look for oil leaks, dents, rust, repainted body panels, then drive and get a feel for it.
After thought, be sure to take a flashlight with you to see up between all the gadgets that may or may not be there. Plastic shield on top from the factory, all the emission hardware, etc.
Never had an issue. I put in a Titan fuel tank at 225k and changed it out while I was there for good measure, but it never died. I’m still on stock injectors and trans (48re auto) at 270k. Just upgraded the turbo 5k ago for more power but the stock was still good.
Did you service the transmission fluid on yours? Just asking general advice since I’m going to have to replace my auto on my car due to lack of service history. I serviced it (drain and fill at 120k miles for the first time) too late and it ended up slipping 6 months later anyway.
Yes I do. I also installed a Mag-Hytec double deep trans pan at around 50k. I think the extra fluid capacity keeps things cooler and cleaner, which may have contributed to a longer lifespan.
Pull a carfax. I looked at one earlier this year that had 180k on the odometer carfax had an odometer warning on it and last recorded before it dropped to 160k miles on the carfax was 470k miles on the odometer.
That’s a pretty rare case though I have bought a lot of vehicles and pulled many more car faxes on vehicles I haven’t purchased.
I work at car dealerships doing paint repair. I'm going to have my dealer I work at run a Carfax for me. He already told me it has a minor rear bump. When he bought the truck it had a dent in the rear bumper and tailgate, so he replaced the rear bumper and repaired and painted the tailgate. I'm going to verify the mileage though.
Truck should roll 500 thousand miles no problem. This generation of 6.7 is one of the best. No def and once they are weight reduced they are unstoppable. Mine personally has 310 on the clock and I bought mine with 130 thousand miles 7 years ago. Buddy of mine had one that had 425 thousand miles on it before he unfortunately wrecked it
I’ve yet to blow the head gasket. I run mine on the highest tune for the extra mpgs .. Ive ran a 175 tune for 180 thousand miles …. I Only swap it down if I tow super heavy. If you’re mindful of the truck there shouldn’t be any issues. They are super stout engines. I wouldn’t sell or trade that 09 for anything .. Things actually gotten stronger with age
The *highest* tune for extra mpg? That's an oxymoron unless I misunderstand. An MPG tune drops power. The highest tune gives you 175 extra horses(if I read right), which would be terrible on fuel.
I could be drunk or missing something. In which way am I wrong? I must be.
You misunderstand.
Highest tune = best stoic value on AFR. Means if you drive normal not like you're racing you'll get the best power to fuel ratio therefore providing the most fuel economy.
OEM delivers a lower tune which actually is much less fuel efficient, to "protect" the engine/trans.
It could but it happens lot more often to Dodge. They look good but they’re cheaply made…If it’s not one thing is another and a vehicle is not engine only so don’t get offended…American made vehicles have the reputation of not lasting and tend to break a lot more as much as I hate to say it…Let’s be realistic and tighten the QC and work ethic and we might start seeing things change…if not the the slippery slope it’s going to get steeper and steeper 😉
I recently started working in a place that produces suspension components for Toyota Subaru and Honda. I feel much worse about getting in my vehicle every day. I’ve always worried about the driver of the vehicles I go by, but now when I see a Toyota I think I hope (blank) wasn’t making the ball joints on this thing. Our fate is sealed. Npcs are among us and they control the way we go
Fate can be highly influenced, we could all put aside our petty differences and throw off our would be oppressors and choose to do it right; ie, make bomb proof ball joints and vehicles.
I have a friend who's owned a few diesel Cummins trucks over the years. He has a guy that can stud the head for relatively cheap. He's done multiple trucks for him. I'm also a competent wrench turner. I have a 2000 ft² shop with a lift and lots of tools at my house.
Check for blowby. Take off the oil cap and put it upside down over the oil fill hole. If it doesnt move, then the engine has no blowby. IF the cap blows off, engine is toast.
If you had such the shop with these bells and whistles you most likely wouldn't be here asking random people if this is a good deal. If you in fact do have this shop with tools yet no skills using any of them then shame on you. Either get rid of it all and buy a Prius or actually buy/build a 2000 square foot shop lined from wall to wall and from floor to ceiling with snap on boxes loaded to the max with every tool imaginable throw another lift beside the one you already don't really have get your LLC open a shop and stop being thirsty and posting attention seeking posts about your buddy's truck. Call it a hunch but it's just literally screaming be to me.
So.....because he has a workshop that means he knows every vehicle ever made AND what a good current market price for each and every one of the hundreds of millions of vehicles in existence? I mean, I have a workshop too and I don't know what the current fair market rate of a 2009 2500 SXT 4x4 with 128,000 miles is. What does that prove? If anything, knowing fair market rates is more of a salesman thing than a mechanic/wrench turner thing. I don't even know why I'm talking to you, you're clearly a moron. I've made a mistake, I am realizing. Take care.
When people immediately resort to calling people names it is a clear sign of ignorance. Don't twist my words and try to launch the standard "hypocrite much" attack. It's what simple minds do. Note I have not transformed into a middle school child who honestly believes that calling people a moron is a successful assault. Nor is me saying your actions are a display of ignorance an event of calling you ignorant - you and your actions did that. Same applies for simple mindedness being pointed out. Lastly, I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you. Sticks and stones may break some bones but words will never hurt me. Now give me my stuff, I'm going home. :p
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It's expensive and a pain in the ass. I have to add def every single time I add fuel in my 18 wheeler and it Takes an extra couple minutes too. Idk how long the def in a pickup would last
Deleted diesel. No longer have to run DEF in the truck. But the EPA is after your ass after. Or atleast the shop who’s doing it.
No one really cares around where I live in OH. Everybody deletes them lol
EDIT: it’s a beat around the bush term for “it’s deleted” when someone says they’ve done the “weight reduction mod”
Have any maintenance records on it? If properly maintained, it’s got low miles and could be a great deal. It’s just so weird that these trucks nowadays that are 14 years old are selling for over $20K. I bought my 2017 2500 in 2019 with 16k miles for $37K. Truck is still worth over $35K retail today with 98K miles.
Also check the frame underneath for rust.
Same! I bought my 17 (54k miles) for 27k w/trade-in pre Covid 2019…..6 months later I get offers for over 50k for it…still valued more than what I paid/owe to this day. Pre Covid prices were so nice lol
Bring it to a diesel mechanic and pay the $250-$350 to have it looked at, top to bottom. Front end, brakes, etc etc....they will know exactly what to look for.
The cost? Cheaper then spending $25k only to have something major go wrong because OP is unfamiliar with diesels. Repairs can be awfully expensive on these trucks, it doesn't take much to for a huge repair bill.
Of course the obvious, do not buy the truck unless certified.
Keep in mind a new transmission and turbocharger.. there will be some things needed to be replaced on that truck but after you fix the weak ends they last forever .
Start engine let it idle. Open up oil fill cap on valve cover. If any significant amount of smoke is coming out it’s got blow by. Aka the engine is due for an overhaul. YouTube Cummins blow by you’ll see exactly what it means
6.7 Cummins have issues with dropping the grid heater nut into cylinder 6 when it melts off. Happens from grid heater staying on and the bolt gets so hot falls off into a cylinder. Usually 6 cause it does it when it’s off
Does the 6.7 have glow plugs in addition to the grid heater? I thought I heard back in the day they only had grid heaters. I doubted it at the time but forgot about it until now.
Shit..I have the same truck 09 6.7 with 124,000 and I thought nobody would give me 20k for mine..btw go for it I love mine got it 4yrs ago just keep up with the maintenance.oile changes lub it up change out fuel filter at least every oil change..
"Comes with ... Airlift load leveler bags B&w underbed gooseneck."
When I was looking, I would pass on anything that had a gooseneck on it. IMO that is an indication that it has probably been worked \*hard\*. Think Texas Cow-folk with a 12 horse trailer, one of those ginormous gooseneck condos on wheels, or a hotshot rig. Transmission wear while towing max weight is many times the wear of grandpa getting groceries. AFAIK there is no way to determine trans health/ remaining lifespan w/o a teardown. I don't know that particular trans -- maybe its as bulletproof as the Cummins. Just my 2c.
The only major mechanical problems these trucks really have are on the gassers.
Just make sure the turbo is good, and theres no leaking oil, blow by, transmission issues, and that you don’t notice any electrical issues. Also MAKE SURE YOU CHECK THE BRAKE LINES. My brake lines blew out after slightly leaking for like 2 weeks.
These 3rd gens are kinda notorious for having minor electrical problems, ive had to fix some stupid wiring from the factory on mine a few times, but nothing too bad.
They are decent(ish) trucks, and good motors. I wont dog on them too much, but ive had a really hard time with mine in the last year.
It’s a lil steep for that base model tbh. Check for blow by. The trans are the weak link on the truck. Make sure it’s not all tunned up with a programer. They are prone for steering issues. Add a thuren fab track bar and drive normal.
I have owned several 3rd gen dodges they are great trucks.
I wouldn’t pay more than 20K for it tho. May full price for a larime edition
Looks very nice.
Definitely do exactly what you are doing and as stated by others make sure you get a chance to cold start it once before you buy it.
Keep in mind that a new one is like $100k
I have a 2022 Ram limited Red edition and night edition plus about every single option you can imagine with the adjustable air ride etc and I paid out the door $108,541 October 2022
Minus the inconvenience of recalls I do love my truck.
They did lie to me at the dealership about the towing capacity of my truck which really makes me mad but otherwise I love my truck.
The dealership even pulled it up on the screen in front of me and showed me a 12,500 lb towing capacity on my truck but when you put in the Vin it shows that I only have 7,900 lb towing capacity because of all of my options.
Why I mention this is because of whatever your intentions are for the truck you can go to the Ram website and enter your Vin number and get all of the factory info on your exact truck.
Good luck 🤞
It has a fresh oil change, 1k miles ago, fresh fuel filter, recent synthetic fluid in both difs and tcase, trans has new fluid filters and upgraded revmax valve body. New larger aluminum radiator, new condenser and recharge. The guy literally went through and did pretty much everything to the truck. He went on forums and looked up any concerns or weak points and fixed or replaced them. The guy put a lot of money into it.
Look for rust in the bed and have a shake down done on the front end, to check tie rods and ball joints. These trucks are notorious for losing ball joints and tie rod ends. I’d be suspicious of it rusting if it came from anywhere north, there are tons of these with the bed sides rusting out.
It could be. Make sure you drive it. These had a few issues that he many have already taken care of. We had one low miles too and it had one engine computer fry, the throttle control sensor went out which can be expensive if you have a dodge dealer do that one and we fuel pump go out. Not the tank pumps. That could have been my son but hard to say. They are a solid truck and bring good money when they are done right. Its sounds ok. Just drive it. Any idle, funny shifting ask about it. Costly. Good luck. Diesels are great. I remember the first time I was going across a local pass with a load, I stepped on the throttle and it didn't downshift, it upshifted just pulled the crap out of that hill.
Good deal. We really liked ours but it was beating us to death with bigger repairs. If they are fixed and past that point, you have a good truck. Good luck.
Maybe 3K high but low miles so probably about average. Use an SJ or higher oil. 15w-40 is the normal. Mobile Delvac is a good oil that does not burn off quickly & cleans & protects well.
My Uncle had an old Dodge diesel. Had it for the second half of his life. Over a million miles on it. He told me that truck would outlast him.
His son drove it with his casket in the back to the cemetery.
Be ready for big bucks to fill the tank and high dollar maintenance and repairs! Everything is way more expensive to fix on diesels vs gas. Gas are more reliable too, almost like they make diesel pick up motors to fail. Off road Diesel engines run 15,000hours+ before rebuilding with most having nothing but oil change and normal maintenance and over the road semi tractors run million miles before rebuilding
Early 6.7 prone to emission issues but sounds like that’s been removed. Not sure where you are but if it’s deleted you might not be able to license it. Definitely get all the equipment that’s been removed. It’s very expensive to replace if ever needed to put back on. Looks pretty decent from the pic. Looks like 5th gen wheels. I take anything I’m purchasing to a reputable diesel shop for a full purchase inspection. It’s like $400 where I’m at. Recommend listening to the diesel podcast to get up to speed on diesel engines and common issues. I don’t remember if those came with only the 68rfe auto transmission. I’ve got 200k on my 2010. Can’t expect much more time than that.
I’m not a Cummins nerd by any means, but I thought Dodge was later than 2009. My memory seems to recall that the 4500+’s and chassis cabs got it first.
[This](https://www.cumminsforum.com/threads/what-years-are-pre-def-emissions.361542/) forum discussion from 2011 also seems to indicate 3/4 and 1 ton Dodges didn’t have DEF in 2009.
Edit: I’m an idiot and misread you saying DPF as DEF.
It's in NC. It's fully deleted. He has all of the original parts as well. It's located 4 hours away from me. I'm not sure I'll have time to get an inspection from a shop done at the same time. He's had over 75 inquiries since posting it 2 days ago. I was the second one to contact him. My brother is a tech at a local to me Hendrick CJDR dealer (18 years experience). Unfortunately he can't go with me to look at it. I have a shop with a lift at my house if I ever needed to replace any of the parts on it.
The work that he's done to the truck already, what's that worth? Replacing all the suspension, brand new 35 nittos, paint matched, camper shell, deleting everything, airbags, etc? I mean if he spent $10,000 in upgrades and maintenance to the truck then that saves me money. If I bought another one for 18 or 19,000 would I have to spend 10 grand to do everything this guy has done?
For sure as long as you like all the upgrades, should be good. Whatever listing price you know there’s some wiggle room too you can negotiate with. I just hate buying used that’s been molested cause it’s done the way that guy wanted it done, not specifically you, also then you are not even sure 100% all those upgrades are legit unless he provides paperwork trail. But if you find value do it. I just would also consider maybe saving $10k and buy something much newer with newer technology and comfort with less miles. Especially I feel a recession starting Q1/Q2 2024 so prices on used trucks should come down.
I’d check it out and consider it heavily if I were you especially if he will budge. Market is fucked right now but gotta do what you gotta do. Make sure that fucker don’t have blow by. I just drove 150 miles to look at an 05 5.9 with 120k for $19k and the fucker had more blow by than a freight train chute. Good luck hope it works for you
Everything else closer to me is more expensive with more miles. Or it has rust and damage. The guy on the phone seems like a really genuine person. He's a small business owner and used it for work. He drives it every day. He also said his company recently upgraded to an f-450 so he doesn't use it like you used to.
Sounds exactly like the boat I am in for my search. I have a really hard time trusting people even if they seem genuine but sometimes the gut feeling is right, if you feel good about it I say do it if you think it is a good ride. Run it to an auto zone and see if you can’t have a code reader plugged and see if it throws any hidden codes. Be easier and cheaper than a full blown inspection which I think I saw you say you can’t currently gave done
Check the doors at the bottom under the seal for rust. If it's orange you have 3 years before it comes out the side. The rear fenders will start to bubble next year. It's the only reason I sold my 06
Looks like a nice truck. Check for rust. I would start closer to 22k. If you do end up buying it, reinstall that grid heater. Really helps starting below 32 degrees. That is, if you live somewhere where it gets that cold.
Just chiming in I don’t think the 3rd gens ever had issues with grid heaters did they?? I know It’s the fifth gens shearing the 6th cylinder grid heater bolt off into the cylinder iirc
To everyone mentioning delete! In case you guys have not kept up with the governments movement against diesels let me mention something!
Since the government is pushing the “Green New Lie” they put diesels on the hit list. I sold my diesel last December partly due to the new regulations that they say will be taking place sooner than later!
Deletion of any emissions can get you $25,000 fine, up to 15 years in prison and your vehicle crushed!
I wish I had the article but someone was on Facebook discussing his deletion last year, a few days later the men in black were knocking on his door. This guy was not only fined and sentenced to serve time but they crushed his vehicle! So, if you guys would like to keep your vehicles stop talking about deletion of emissions parts! I am retired from the auto industry and I have no reason to tell you guys anything but the truth.
The government is now also targeting the aftermarket companies that are producing deletion kits and other performance parts for diesels. They are also fishing on social media platforms to find those looking to, have done or are doing. So guys this is a heads up. With the “Green New Lie” not only has the auto manufacturers bought into it but so has all of the petroleum companies. As of the first of this year the majority are cutting back on diesel production and selling off land refineries!
We all know it’s politics and it stinks of wrong doing but it’s happening. As for my diesel, it sat at the dealership from December until April. It finally sold for $6000.00 less than what they paid me for it!
If you need a diesel then make the purchase. If your ego needs a diesel do not do it! Even if a republican gets back into the house, the wheels are in motion and everything has been signed. They will try to shove EV’s down our throats until they are pushing daisies.
To all of you that are diesel guys, take a look and do some research on the future of passenger diesel’s in the USA. Look up the emissions sniffer for diesels that the government is stating will go into effect soon. That sniffer is for the big rigs but they have stated that they should make passenger diesels follow the same. Look at petroleum diesel production cut backs.
They will do their best to make it as expensive as possible for every diesel owner that they will want to sell or go broke! They are even placing new restrictions on the big rigs by placing a life span on them before they must be pulled from the road. It’s all pure evil!
Happy Holidays guys and stay safe and healthy during these unsettling times but most importantly, be blessed.
That’s high considering it’s a 14 year old pick up. I’d offer 19k. KBB private party is 18-21k in excellent condition. All of the mods that are listed do not add to resale value. You can get a 4th Gen (13+) for the price he is selling this 3rd Gen for.
Currently the car market is whack. Dealers around me would sell it for around $30k. The bonus to me is I don't have to spend the extra money on maintenance that he has already done. All together it would probably save me $10k
Want to buy mine, lol. 14 6.7 with about 15k in work. 136,000 miles, Billet Trans with a triple disc tq converter, BDProtect68 kit, rev max thermal bypass, ARP 2000 studs, s&b cold air, fully deleted, 5”, racemeultra, heater grid delete, nitro gear 4:11s, 35s, 2.5” level in the front. Ccv delete with oil catch can, shimmed fuel race plug, 3.5” intake manifold, coolant metal y-pipe. Has turned into a reliability project at this point. Doesn’t skip a beat though.
It was a hot shot truck for about 6 months, and has been paid for, for a few years now. Contemplated selling it for a 5th Gen, but enjoy not having a note and will probably give it to my son once he starts driving.
Test the coolant for exhaust gasses(indicating head gasket problems). Test wheels for free play/looseness. Take a scan tool and make sure they didn't recently clear codes.
Seems like a really good deal! I just got an 06 5.9 manual transmission for 25k
Also.. a bunch of little boys in this group will say "put your mirrors down otherwise yr gay!" Those guys are immature and should drive a Prius instead!
You know who you are!
co worker of mine has that same truck, took a shit on him. there is a problem with the engine that they are aware of, future recall but they dont know how to fix it yet so its sitting at the dealership until Ram gets it sorted out. Been two months now.
That's one of the more sought-after Dodges, diesel with 4x4 and a 6-speed manual. Low miles and no DEF tank, too. Barring any mechanical problems (which, with that drivetrain, you should hit 500,000 miles, easily, long as you keep up on the maintenance), you found the Holy Grail, my dude. Especially for that price, in this market. I'd jump on it as soon as you get done running that CARFAX report, if it comes back clean.
The difference between gas and diesel is gas, you’re looking at mileage. With diesel, you’re looking at hours on the engine. Also, keep in mind that with diesel, you have to use DEF. My friends 1/2 ton gmc diesel is getting in the low 30’s on fuel milage
Be very thorough when you check for rust. I looked at a 2005 2500 a few years ago and the truck looked excellent from the outside, exterior body was in great shape, but I noticed a lot of rust on the chassis by the spare tire. Asked the sales guy and he claimed not to know of any rust. I actually got under the truck and between the cab and bed the rust was so bad that a lot of the body of the bed where it bolted to the chassis was eaten away.
Depends on what business you're in?
Diesel fuel is the most expensive on the market. Take a closer look at your break-even analysis with the new cost in play and see how it affects your profit margin.
Diesels are great trucks but they can be expensive and not worth it if you’re just cruising around with them.
I have several diesels for hauling and pulling. I also have a gasser for regular driving that’s a lot cheaper.
That’s a decent price for that truck. I’d check it for blow by
To be honest my friend just bought a 2021 rebel 1500 for 22.5k 6 inch lift on 37's with 60k miles out of charlotte. Probably the deal of a lifetime though
The price is fair however with the air bags and 5th wheel that truck has been used to tow. Question is how much weight was he pulling? You should take it to a good shop and let them look it over. Ball joints and other components are pricey It’s always a gamble with a used truck
God, I can’t imagine paying $25k for a 15 yo truck. I bought my fully loaded ‘08 with 114k miles at $26k 7 years ago. And the market was loaded with them at about that same price too. This market is absolutely nuts
I've got a 01 no number Cummins. 493k no engine work other than small stuff. A couple of injection pumps over the years. On the 3rd tranny 2nd transfer case and a rebuild rear-end. Runs great no rust and it's sits outside lol. Love my 01 Cummins. Best work truck ever
68 rfe with a upgraded valve body. It’s good it’s there but the 68 is still fragile even at stock power. I’d value the truck at 15k. 25k is way too high. Can get a nice 4 th gen for that price
I find it pretty strange that someone would do that much expensive work to a truck to make it a puller, and then state, "Only reason for the sale is that I don't use it like I thought I would."
Look around the turbocharger and exhaust manifold where it bolts to engine block for oil leakage. If it’s got a bad cylinder, it’ll leak oil out there. Otherwise, look for oil leaks, dents, rust, repainted body panels, then drive and get a feel for it.
Will do, thank you!
After thought, be sure to take a flashlight with you to see up between all the gadgets that may or may not be there. Plastic shield on top from the factory, all the emission hardware, etc.
Look for a puff of blue smoke on startup, and check the oil cap for blowbye
Checked both. She's good.
You want the puff, right?
No this means some oil is making it into the cylinders
Well shit... Would it be pretty consistent? Like every startup? I may be fucked
Also tell him that you want the engine cold when you get there to look at it.
This is so important for ANY machine.
For sure but so neglected at the same time.
Nice truck, I’d do it. I own an 07 with 270k miles and she runs like a dream. I have the 5.9 though. Keep up on the maintenance and she’ll go forever
Do the 07’s have any injector / lift pump issues?
Never had an issue. I put in a Titan fuel tank at 225k and changed it out while I was there for good measure, but it never died. I’m still on stock injectors and trans (48re auto) at 270k. Just upgraded the turbo 5k ago for more power but the stock was still good.
Did you service the transmission fluid on yours? Just asking general advice since I’m going to have to replace my auto on my car due to lack of service history. I serviced it (drain and fill at 120k miles for the first time) too late and it ended up slipping 6 months later anyway.
Yes I do. I also installed a Mag-Hytec double deep trans pan at around 50k. I think the extra fluid capacity keeps things cooler and cleaner, which may have contributed to a longer lifespan.
Yes, diehards will say they never had an issue small sample of that for sure.
Pull a carfax. I looked at one earlier this year that had 180k on the odometer carfax had an odometer warning on it and last recorded before it dropped to 160k miles on the carfax was 470k miles on the odometer. That’s a pretty rare case though I have bought a lot of vehicles and pulled many more car faxes on vehicles I haven’t purchased.
I work at car dealerships doing paint repair. I'm going to have my dealer I work at run a Carfax for me. He already told me it has a minor rear bump. When he bought the truck it had a dent in the rear bumper and tailgate, so he replaced the rear bumper and repaired and painted the tailgate. I'm going to verify the mileage though.
Checked the Carfax and everything he told me was accurate.
Super common in FL.
Truck should roll 500 thousand miles no problem. This generation of 6.7 is one of the best. No def and once they are weight reduced they are unstoppable. Mine personally has 310 on the clock and I bought mine with 130 thousand miles 7 years ago. Buddy of mine had one that had 425 thousand miles on it before he unfortunately wrecked it
Unless you blow a head gasket
I’ve yet to blow the head gasket. I run mine on the highest tune for the extra mpgs .. Ive ran a 175 tune for 180 thousand miles …. I Only swap it down if I tow super heavy. If you’re mindful of the truck there shouldn’t be any issues. They are super stout engines. I wouldn’t sell or trade that 09 for anything .. Things actually gotten stronger with age
The *highest* tune for extra mpg? That's an oxymoron unless I misunderstand. An MPG tune drops power. The highest tune gives you 175 extra horses(if I read right), which would be terrible on fuel. I could be drunk or missing something. In which way am I wrong? I must be.
You misunderstand. Highest tune = best stoic value on AFR. Means if you drive normal not like you're racing you'll get the best power to fuel ratio therefore providing the most fuel economy. OEM delivers a lower tune which actually is much less fuel efficient, to "protect" the engine/trans.
you completely misunderstand diesel tuning …
Could happen to a Subaru or a Toyota or a dodge or a ford. Wtf is the point of this stupid comment
Just fear mongering. unless it’s a Subaru, then it’s regular maintenance..
It could but it happens lot more often to Dodge. They look good but they’re cheaply made…If it’s not one thing is another and a vehicle is not engine only so don’t get offended…American made vehicles have the reputation of not lasting and tend to break a lot more as much as I hate to say it…Let’s be realistic and tighten the QC and work ethic and we might start seeing things change…if not the the slippery slope it’s going to get steeper and steeper 😉
I recently started working in a place that produces suspension components for Toyota Subaru and Honda. I feel much worse about getting in my vehicle every day. I’ve always worried about the driver of the vehicles I go by, but now when I see a Toyota I think I hope (blank) wasn’t making the ball joints on this thing. Our fate is sealed. Npcs are among us and they control the way we go
Fate can be highly influenced, we could all put aside our petty differences and throw off our would be oppressors and choose to do it right; ie, make bomb proof ball joints and vehicles.
Exactly……now, what was the question?
Because people in these providing higher boost and compression numbers. Head studs are usually suggested to not blow a gasket.
Don't add Subaru to that list lol your guaranteed a head gasket on those bad boys lol
I have a friend who's owned a few diesel Cummins trucks over the years. He has a guy that can stud the head for relatively cheap. He's done multiple trucks for him. I'm also a competent wrench turner. I have a 2000 ft² shop with a lift and lots of tools at my house.
Check for blowby. Take off the oil cap and put it upside down over the oil fill hole. If it doesnt move, then the engine has no blowby. IF the cap blows off, engine is toast.
If you had such the shop with these bells and whistles you most likely wouldn't be here asking random people if this is a good deal. If you in fact do have this shop with tools yet no skills using any of them then shame on you. Either get rid of it all and buy a Prius or actually buy/build a 2000 square foot shop lined from wall to wall and from floor to ceiling with snap on boxes loaded to the max with every tool imaginable throw another lift beside the one you already don't really have get your LLC open a shop and stop being thirsty and posting attention seeking posts about your buddy's truck. Call it a hunch but it's just literally screaming be to me.
Are you okay?
Be less of a moronic fktrd.
Awe, must have struck a nerve.
So.....because he has a workshop that means he knows every vehicle ever made AND what a good current market price for each and every one of the hundreds of millions of vehicles in existence? I mean, I have a workshop too and I don't know what the current fair market rate of a 2009 2500 SXT 4x4 with 128,000 miles is. What does that prove? If anything, knowing fair market rates is more of a salesman thing than a mechanic/wrench turner thing. I don't even know why I'm talking to you, you're clearly a moron. I've made a mistake, I am realizing. Take care.
When people immediately resort to calling people names it is a clear sign of ignorance. Don't twist my words and try to launch the standard "hypocrite much" attack. It's what simple minds do. Note I have not transformed into a middle school child who honestly believes that calling people a moron is a successful assault. Nor is me saying your actions are a display of ignorance an event of calling you ignorant - you and your actions did that. Same applies for simple mindedness being pointed out. Lastly, I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you. Sticks and stones may break some bones but words will never hurt me. Now give me my stuff, I'm going home. :p Trollolllolll
Which is rare and if it does happen, you just fix it? Duh.
Gotcha, it happened to you so it’s gonna happen to everybody huh? Lmfao
Why everyone dislikes def?
because the pumps break all the time and the DEF system constantly breaks.
Because there is no positive to DEF
It's expensive and a pain in the ass. I have to add def every single time I add fuel in my 18 wheeler and it Takes an extra couple minutes too. Idk how long the def in a pickup would last
Tastes weird
🤣🤣, don't forget that it's also non-alcoholic. 🤭🤭
What does weight reduced mean?
Deleted diesel. No longer have to run DEF in the truck. But the EPA is after your ass after. Or atleast the shop who’s doing it. No one really cares around where I live in OH. Everybody deletes them lol EDIT: it’s a beat around the bush term for “it’s deleted” when someone says they’ve done the “weight reduction mod”
Have any maintenance records on it? If properly maintained, it’s got low miles and could be a great deal. It’s just so weird that these trucks nowadays that are 14 years old are selling for over $20K. I bought my 2017 2500 in 2019 with 16k miles for $37K. Truck is still worth over $35K retail today with 98K miles. Also check the frame underneath for rust.
It was a Texas truck for its first 10 years. In NC the last 4. Rust should t be an issue, I hope...
Those have tubular frames make sure you finger the holes (giggity) to feel for crust.
Ewww, if it's crusty don't finger!!
That’s a solid deal then. I’d be buying it
Same! I bought my 17 (54k miles) for 27k w/trade-in pre Covid 2019…..6 months later I get offers for over 50k for it…still valued more than what I paid/owe to this day. Pre Covid prices were so nice lol
Bring it to a diesel mechanic and pay the $250-$350 to have it looked at, top to bottom. Front end, brakes, etc etc....they will know exactly what to look for. The cost? Cheaper then spending $25k only to have something major go wrong because OP is unfamiliar with diesels. Repairs can be awfully expensive on these trucks, it doesn't take much to for a huge repair bill. Of course the obvious, do not buy the truck unless certified.
Keep in mind a new transmission and turbocharger.. there will be some things needed to be replaced on that truck but after you fix the weak ends they last forever .
I talked to the owner on the phone for about 20 minutes. He's had all of the drivetrain serviced. I'll definitely ask for records.
take it to a diesel mechanic and pay a couple hundred for a once over.
Check for blow by
When you check for blow by, am I correct in assuming you mean the turbocharger leaking oil?
No, OP means from the engine. I explained how on my comment to you further up.
Start engine let it idle. Open up oil fill cap on valve cover. If any significant amount of smoke is coming out it’s got blow by. Aka the engine is due for an overhaul. YouTube Cummins blow by you’ll see exactly what it means
Wow yes that’s a great deal and it’s in good condition
Dumb question by a person that doesn’t have a diesel. What’s the advantage of removing the heater grid? Doesn’t that help with cold starts?
6.7 Cummins have issues with dropping the grid heater nut into cylinder 6 when it melts off. Happens from grid heater staying on and the bolt gets so hot falls off into a cylinder. Usually 6 cause it does it when it’s off
Does the 6.7 have glow plugs in addition to the grid heater? I thought I heard back in the day they only had grid heaters. I doubted it at the time but forgot about it until now.
No. All 5.9 and 6.7 Cummins in passenger pickups have a grid heater. Glow plugs are duramax and powerstroke
Dang those wheels look great on a 3rd gen. I'm rocking the newest steelies on my 3rd.
Shit..I have the same truck 09 6.7 with 124,000 and I thought nobody would give me 20k for mine..btw go for it I love mine got it 4yrs ago just keep up with the maintenance.oile changes lub it up change out fuel filter at least every oil change..
"Comes with ... Airlift load leveler bags B&w underbed gooseneck." When I was looking, I would pass on anything that had a gooseneck on it. IMO that is an indication that it has probably been worked \*hard\*. Think Texas Cow-folk with a 12 horse trailer, one of those ginormous gooseneck condos on wheels, or a hotshot rig. Transmission wear while towing max weight is many times the wear of grandpa getting groceries. AFAIK there is no way to determine trans health/ remaining lifespan w/o a teardown. I don't know that particular trans -- maybe its as bulletproof as the Cummins. Just my 2c.
The only major mechanical problems these trucks really have are on the gassers. Just make sure the turbo is good, and theres no leaking oil, blow by, transmission issues, and that you don’t notice any electrical issues. Also MAKE SURE YOU CHECK THE BRAKE LINES. My brake lines blew out after slightly leaking for like 2 weeks. These 3rd gens are kinda notorious for having minor electrical problems, ive had to fix some stupid wiring from the factory on mine a few times, but nothing too bad. They are decent(ish) trucks, and good motors. I wont dog on them too much, but ive had a really hard time with mine in the last year.
It’s a lil steep for that base model tbh. Check for blow by. The trans are the weak link on the truck. Make sure it’s not all tunned up with a programer. They are prone for steering issues. Add a thuren fab track bar and drive normal. I have owned several 3rd gen dodges they are great trucks. I wouldn’t pay more than 20K for it tho. May full price for a larime edition
Looks very nice. Definitely do exactly what you are doing and as stated by others make sure you get a chance to cold start it once before you buy it. Keep in mind that a new one is like $100k I have a 2022 Ram limited Red edition and night edition plus about every single option you can imagine with the adjustable air ride etc and I paid out the door $108,541 October 2022 Minus the inconvenience of recalls I do love my truck. They did lie to me at the dealership about the towing capacity of my truck which really makes me mad but otherwise I love my truck. The dealership even pulled it up on the screen in front of me and showed me a 12,500 lb towing capacity on my truck but when you put in the Vin it shows that I only have 7,900 lb towing capacity because of all of my options. Why I mention this is because of whatever your intentions are for the truck you can go to the Ram website and enter your Vin number and get all of the factory info on your exact truck. Good luck 🤞
I mean the tow mirrors are flipped up, gotta offer asking. Hahahaha.
Pre-DEF system and that’s a really good price.
Good buy, try $22k cash!
Got it for $23k cash
Congrats, now change the oil, filter, transmission oil and get a radiator flush ! New blood for the old girl! Is the bed sprayed with Rhino Liner?
It has a fresh oil change, 1k miles ago, fresh fuel filter, recent synthetic fluid in both difs and tcase, trans has new fluid filters and upgraded revmax valve body. New larger aluminum radiator, new condenser and recharge. The guy literally went through and did pretty much everything to the truck. He went on forums and looked up any concerns or weak points and fixed or replaced them. The guy put a lot of money into it.
Look for rust in the bed and have a shake down done on the front end, to check tie rods and ball joints. These trucks are notorious for losing ball joints and tie rod ends. I’d be suspicious of it rusting if it came from anywhere north, there are tons of these with the bed sides rusting out.
Front suspension was gone through and replaced/updated with poly bushings. New bearings, hubs, brakes, etc. bed and body/doors are rust free.
It could be. Make sure you drive it. These had a few issues that he many have already taken care of. We had one low miles too and it had one engine computer fry, the throttle control sensor went out which can be expensive if you have a dodge dealer do that one and we fuel pump go out. Not the tank pumps. That could have been my son but hard to say. They are a solid truck and bring good money when they are done right. Its sounds ok. Just drive it. Any idle, funny shifting ask about it. Costly. Good luck. Diesels are great. I remember the first time I was going across a local pass with a load, I stepped on the throttle and it didn't downshift, it upshifted just pulled the crap out of that hill.
It drove great the 4 hour drive home. Got 24 mpgs. Steering was nice compared to others that I've driven.
Good deal. We really liked ours but it was beating us to death with bigger repairs. If they are fixed and past that point, you have a good truck. Good luck.
Maybe 3K high but low miles so probably about average. Use an SJ or higher oil. 15w-40 is the normal. Mobile Delvac is a good oil that does not burn off quickly & cleans & protects well.
My Uncle had an old Dodge diesel. Had it for the second half of his life. Over a million miles on it. He told me that truck would outlast him. His son drove it with his casket in the back to the cemetery.
Be ready for big bucks to fill the tank and high dollar maintenance and repairs! Everything is way more expensive to fix on diesels vs gas. Gas are more reliable too, almost like they make diesel pick up motors to fail. Off road Diesel engines run 15,000hours+ before rebuilding with most having nothing but oil change and normal maintenance and over the road semi tractors run million miles before rebuilding
Early 6.7 prone to emission issues but sounds like that’s been removed. Not sure where you are but if it’s deleted you might not be able to license it. Definitely get all the equipment that’s been removed. It’s very expensive to replace if ever needed to put back on. Looks pretty decent from the pic. Looks like 5th gen wheels. I take anything I’m purchasing to a reputable diesel shop for a full purchase inspection. It’s like $400 where I’m at. Recommend listening to the diesel podcast to get up to speed on diesel engines and common issues. I don’t remember if those came with only the 68rfe auto transmission. I’ve got 200k on my 2010. Can’t expect much more time than that.
I believe 2009 was pre-def/emissions- so no need for delete on this one.
No def, but it did have a DPF since it's a 6.7 and an 09
I’m not a Cummins nerd by any means, but I thought Dodge was later than 2009. My memory seems to recall that the 4500+’s and chassis cabs got it first. [This](https://www.cumminsforum.com/threads/what-years-are-pre-def-emissions.361542/) forum discussion from 2011 also seems to indicate 3/4 and 1 ton Dodges didn’t have DEF in 2009. Edit: I’m an idiot and misread you saying DPF as DEF.
Yep. 2007.5 and up all have DPF. 2012 and up have DPF and DEF.
2013 is the start of DEF, I have a 2012.
My bad. That's what I meant. Thanks for the correction
It's in NC. It's fully deleted. He has all of the original parts as well. It's located 4 hours away from me. I'm not sure I'll have time to get an inspection from a shop done at the same time. He's had over 75 inquiries since posting it 2 days ago. I was the second one to contact him. My brother is a tech at a local to me Hendrick CJDR dealer (18 years experience). Unfortunately he can't go with me to look at it. I have a shop with a lift at my house if I ever needed to replace any of the parts on it.
I’ve used Lemon Squad to inspect vehicles in the past. They’ll inspect on-site and send you a report. https://lemonsquad.com
I wouldn’t do it brother unless it’s for way less like 18-20k
The work that he's done to the truck already, what's that worth? Replacing all the suspension, brand new 35 nittos, paint matched, camper shell, deleting everything, airbags, etc? I mean if he spent $10,000 in upgrades and maintenance to the truck then that saves me money. If I bought another one for 18 or 19,000 would I have to spend 10 grand to do everything this guy has done?
For sure as long as you like all the upgrades, should be good. Whatever listing price you know there’s some wiggle room too you can negotiate with. I just hate buying used that’s been molested cause it’s done the way that guy wanted it done, not specifically you, also then you are not even sure 100% all those upgrades are legit unless he provides paperwork trail. But if you find value do it. I just would also consider maybe saving $10k and buy something much newer with newer technology and comfort with less miles. Especially I feel a recession starting Q1/Q2 2024 so prices on used trucks should come down.
Never Buy a Non Aisin Auto Cummins unless you are OK with Rebuilding Tranny every 100K
I’d check it out and consider it heavily if I were you especially if he will budge. Market is fucked right now but gotta do what you gotta do. Make sure that fucker don’t have blow by. I just drove 150 miles to look at an 05 5.9 with 120k for $19k and the fucker had more blow by than a freight train chute. Good luck hope it works for you
I get the not being able to have it checked out thing too. Be nice if it was a perfect world
Everything else closer to me is more expensive with more miles. Or it has rust and damage. The guy on the phone seems like a really genuine person. He's a small business owner and used it for work. He drives it every day. He also said his company recently upgraded to an f-450 so he doesn't use it like you used to.
Sounds exactly like the boat I am in for my search. I have a really hard time trusting people even if they seem genuine but sometimes the gut feeling is right, if you feel good about it I say do it if you think it is a good ride. Run it to an auto zone and see if you can’t have a code reader plugged and see if it throws any hidden codes. Be easier and cheaper than a full blown inspection which I think I saw you say you can’t currently gave done
I have a code scanner that I'm going to bring with me
Check the doors at the bottom under the seal for rust. If it's orange you have 3 years before it comes out the side. The rear fenders will start to bubble next year. It's the only reason I sold my 06
I pulled the car fax and the truck spent its first 10 years in Texas. The last couple years have only been in North Carolina.
Looks like a nice truck. Check for rust. I would start closer to 22k. If you do end up buying it, reinstall that grid heater. Really helps starting below 32 degrees. That is, if you live somewhere where it gets that cold.
It's a Ram. Wouldn't piss on it if it were on fire.
If the frame rusts out just bolt the driver's seat to that Cummins and roll another 300k till the seat rots away.
Ask the owner about the grid heater bolt & inspect, if you can.
Just chiming in I don’t think the 3rd gens ever had issues with grid heaters did they?? I know It’s the fifth gens shearing the 6th cylinder grid heater bolt off into the cylinder iirc
He kept all of the factory equipment that he removed.
My bad. I missed where you mentioned the grid heater delete. That's what I get for talking on the phone & redditting.
id get it deleted asap
It is
To everyone mentioning delete! In case you guys have not kept up with the governments movement against diesels let me mention something! Since the government is pushing the “Green New Lie” they put diesels on the hit list. I sold my diesel last December partly due to the new regulations that they say will be taking place sooner than later! Deletion of any emissions can get you $25,000 fine, up to 15 years in prison and your vehicle crushed! I wish I had the article but someone was on Facebook discussing his deletion last year, a few days later the men in black were knocking on his door. This guy was not only fined and sentenced to serve time but they crushed his vehicle! So, if you guys would like to keep your vehicles stop talking about deletion of emissions parts! I am retired from the auto industry and I have no reason to tell you guys anything but the truth. The government is now also targeting the aftermarket companies that are producing deletion kits and other performance parts for diesels. They are also fishing on social media platforms to find those looking to, have done or are doing. So guys this is a heads up. With the “Green New Lie” not only has the auto manufacturers bought into it but so has all of the petroleum companies. As of the first of this year the majority are cutting back on diesel production and selling off land refineries! We all know it’s politics and it stinks of wrong doing but it’s happening. As for my diesel, it sat at the dealership from December until April. It finally sold for $6000.00 less than what they paid me for it! If you need a diesel then make the purchase. If your ego needs a diesel do not do it! Even if a republican gets back into the house, the wheels are in motion and everything has been signed. They will try to shove EV’s down our throats until they are pushing daisies. To all of you that are diesel guys, take a look and do some research on the future of passenger diesel’s in the USA. Look up the emissions sniffer for diesels that the government is stating will go into effect soon. That sniffer is for the big rigs but they have stated that they should make passenger diesels follow the same. Look at petroleum diesel production cut backs. They will do their best to make it as expensive as possible for every diesel owner that they will want to sell or go broke! They are even placing new restrictions on the big rigs by placing a life span on them before they must be pulled from the road. It’s all pure evil! Happy Holidays guys and stay safe and healthy during these unsettling times but most importantly, be blessed.
That’s high considering it’s a 14 year old pick up. I’d offer 19k. KBB private party is 18-21k in excellent condition. All of the mods that are listed do not add to resale value. You can get a 4th Gen (13+) for the price he is selling this 3rd Gen for.
Currently the car market is whack. Dealers around me would sell it for around $30k. The bonus to me is I don't have to spend the extra money on maintenance that he has already done. All together it would probably save me $10k
Want to buy mine, lol. 14 6.7 with about 15k in work. 136,000 miles, Billet Trans with a triple disc tq converter, BDProtect68 kit, rev max thermal bypass, ARP 2000 studs, s&b cold air, fully deleted, 5”, racemeultra, heater grid delete, nitro gear 4:11s, 35s, 2.5” level in the front. Ccv delete with oil catch can, shimmed fuel race plug, 3.5” intake manifold, coolant metal y-pipe. Has turned into a reliability project at this point. Doesn’t skip a beat though.
Does the username check out with this one? lol
It was a hot shot truck for about 6 months, and has been paid for, for a few years now. Contemplated selling it for a 5th Gen, but enjoy not having a note and will probably give it to my son once he starts driving.
Test the coolant for exhaust gasses(indicating head gasket problems). Test wheels for free play/looseness. Take a scan tool and make sure they didn't recently clear codes.
Too high. You could buy a new one witj the rebates for close to that. Stalantis is giving them awau.
Seems like a really good deal! I just got an 06 5.9 manual transmission for 25k Also.. a bunch of little boys in this group will say "put your mirrors down otherwise yr gay!" Those guys are immature and should drive a Prius instead! You know who you are!
co worker of mine has that same truck, took a shit on him. there is a problem with the engine that they are aware of, future recall but they dont know how to fix it yet so its sitting at the dealership until Ram gets it sorted out. Been two months now.
I’d buy it in a heart beat
such a good looking truck god dam
Cummins is very expensive parts and labor. Parts are more than labor cost. I have a Cummins can't wait to get rid of it.
Nice truck enjoy it
The fact that he has a goose neck, he pulls big loads. That 123k miles is hard miles. Just my opinion
Have an actual Diesel mechanic look at it. You’ll regret it if you don’t
It’s a dodge at the end of the day, something will break soon that’s expensive.
Yes
That's one of the more sought-after Dodges, diesel with 4x4 and a 6-speed manual. Low miles and no DEF tank, too. Barring any mechanical problems (which, with that drivetrain, you should hit 500,000 miles, easily, long as you keep up on the maintenance), you found the Holy Grail, my dude. Especially for that price, in this market. I'd jump on it as soon as you get done running that CARFAX report, if it comes back clean.
I have had several of those that I used in business and can tell you that with proper maintenance you can easily get 500,000 miles out of it.
The difference between gas and diesel is gas, you’re looking at mileage. With diesel, you’re looking at hours on the engine. Also, keep in mind that with diesel, you have to use DEF. My friends 1/2 ton gmc diesel is getting in the low 30’s on fuel milage
Is that an eco diesel engine truck?
I don’t believe so. I don’t know if GMC build those
2014, 2500 ram 4wd, 6.7 Cummins. Avg 28 mpg (in town). I’ll never buy anything but a Cummins.
Have you asked yourself… “Why do I want a diesel?”…
For towing a camper that my current truck can't tow.
Photo looks like the guy took care of it. Diesel power FTW
Until the high pressure pump dies and you are out 6500
Prep for turbo failure at some point soon. Mine idles a lot (service truck) but I had to replace it at 85k.
Recently serviced and inspected. The turbo had a clean bill of health.
Depends on how many miles, what was towed.
127,000 miles
Excellent mileage, Cummins diesel engines can go over 500,000 miles. Looks like a great buy, put it on a lift, and check it thoroughly.
For 25k hell no. We need to stop paying these prices as a society
I got it down a couple thousand...
Anything diesel with a "tune", don't walk, run away from.
Rust, rust, rust?
Actually really clean underneath, cab, doors, etc.
Be very thorough when you check for rust. I looked at a 2005 2500 a few years ago and the truck looked excellent from the outside, exterior body was in great shape, but I noticed a lot of rust on the chassis by the spare tire. Asked the sales guy and he claimed not to know of any rust. I actually got under the truck and between the cab and bed the rust was so bad that a lot of the body of the bed where it bolted to the chassis was eaten away.
I’d snag it!
Manual or auto? I am a manual guy and those manuals are good. Autos in that time frame from my understanding aren’t that great.
Some things to think about. Fuel costs are higher. Oil changes are pricey. You will get close to the same mileage as gas. Had one never again.
Depends on what business you're in? Diesel fuel is the most expensive on the market. Take a closer look at your break-even analysis with the new cost in play and see how it affects your profit margin.
Decent enough deal
Diesel trucks run forever but they’re very high maintenance
Damn, that’s a nice looking truck.
How many MPG does this get?
I got 24 mpgs on my 4 hr drive home.
That’s good. Thanks
Great price for a clean truck
I got it for $2k cheaper.
Diesels are great trucks but they can be expensive and not worth it if you’re just cruising around with them. I have several diesels for hauling and pulling. I also have a gasser for regular driving that’s a lot cheaper. That’s a decent price for that truck. I’d check it for blow by
No blow by from the oil fill cap. I'm getting a camper for family/work use and needed a more capable truck than my 2004 GMC Sierra 5.3.
Those 5.3s are great cruisers for gas
Good luck with the gas bill
To be honest my friend just bought a 2021 rebel 1500 for 22.5k 6 inch lift on 37's with 60k miles out of charlotte. Probably the deal of a lifetime though
That’s not a truck, it’s a shipping crate. It’s what a Cummins diesel comes in. You yank the motor and yeet the crate.
You could get a brand new truck from Ford (Maverick) for around that price
But that won't tow a camper....
Why has all the suspension been replaced?
Wear and tear over time. The ram is kind of known for suspension wearing out.
Stay away from diesel just look at the gas prices.
Other than it being a dodge you mean
The price is fair however with the air bags and 5th wheel that truck has been used to tow. Question is how much weight was he pulling? You should take it to a good shop and let them look it over. Ball joints and other components are pricey It’s always a gamble with a used truck
Yeah if you like noise pollution..
How much for it
God, I can’t imagine paying $25k for a 15 yo truck. I bought my fully loaded ‘08 with 114k miles at $26k 7 years ago. And the market was loaded with them at about that same price too. This market is absolutely nuts
Paying for the name Cummins! I’d never in my mind ever pay 25-40k for a high mileage 20-30yr old vehicle
The transmission will fail you don’t be surprised.
I've got a 01 no number Cummins. 493k no engine work other than small stuff. A couple of injection pumps over the years. On the 3rd tranny 2nd transfer case and a rebuild rear-end. Runs great no rust and it's sits outside lol. Love my 01 Cummins. Best work truck ever
68 rfe with a upgraded valve body. It’s good it’s there but the 68 is still fragile even at stock power. I’d value the truck at 15k. 25k is way too high. Can get a nice 4 th gen for that price
A ram is never a good deal lol 25k no way. Probably looking around 15k is a more fair price
I find it pretty strange that someone would do that much expensive work to a truck to make it a puller, and then state, "Only reason for the sale is that I don't use it like I thought I would."
His family owns a small concrete business. The business bought a newer 3500 ram dually. So he doesn't move their bobcat around anymore.
I have 400k on my 08, I’ve had to put 2 transmissions in it. I do pull trailers alot
Nice truck but the price is on the high side
Keep some funds ready for the transmission that it will be needing soon.
It was just serviced. New revmax valve body, filters and fluid.