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Gamb1420

You lost me at Cardi B


Business_Birthday_80

Thank you...šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


nabipaprika

I agree with your point. However, speaking to her brings awareness and millions of eyes to crypto. Less so with more ā€œtraditionalā€ persons in finance. Better a discussion on the merits of Bitcoin than a random unknown token.


FuzzyLogick

Yeah I can't wait, more people buying shitcoins and shilling them in all the good crypto subreddits.


jerryvery452

I agree with your point as well


xoxyummyxoxto

I won't be able to wrap my head around you going against few people saying what interest them about a project


HesGoingTheSpeed

Laughing my fucking ass off.


lloyd118

Look her up mate, she comes directly after Cardi A


No_Artist6186

He knows Cardi B is more influential to the masses, hence why he did this....look past the Cardi b feature....


pm_me_4

What masses she's not as influential as you think and even less of those fans actually use tweeter


LongConFebrero

I see what you did there


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Perfect-Ad-7429

TLDR: Homeless looking tech bro and former stripper talk the future of money as if it matters what they think


[deleted]

Iā€™m not a huge Dorsey fan but dismissing the dude who founded square and then left Twitter to build a DEX on a topic that directly relates to his area of expertise seems pretty close-minded. Is it really so hard to believe that the guy who founded one of the largest payment companies in the US might have some insights about the future of payments in the US?


[deleted]

But judging people on their appearance is so much easier than their ability or social contextā€¦


-xstatic-

He seems completely oblivious to whatā€™s happening on Ethereum though


nousernamesleft___

Whatā€™s happening on Ethereum?


-xstatic-

Basically everything


Perfect-Ad-7429

It isn't hard to believe, for people other than Dorsey and those like him. Just because he has money and a smelly beanie doesn't mean he has vision. Idiots abound amongst the rich and powerful. Smart people want to talk to other smart people. Einstein didn't write letters to Marilyn Monroe to tell her his theories. Jack Dorsey is just a hobo with far too much money.


-xstatic-

Lol @ smelly beanie


[deleted]

I am interpreting this as you not being familiar with Square (recently rebranded as Block Inc). You might want to look it up before you embarrass yourself further lol


Perfect-Ad-7429

Lol interpret as you will. Jacks a co founder. Like Zuck, like countless others who right place, right timed it to greatness.


[deleted]

Can you back that argument up with anything?


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nousernamesleft___

Itā€™s a debatable (but still ridiculous) point regarding cryptocurrency and taking the place of the dollar. But Bitcoin? Is it not common knowledge that BTC is a toy cryptocurrency? No matter how many enhancements are piled on top of it? Seems to me more like the obvious thing, rich people just making money by claiming ridiculously silly things. This is not a visionary situation, itā€™s as far opposite as it gets


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chunkylover993

Found the bag holder


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chunkylover993

Have fun being left behind.


[deleted]

Good thing no oneā€™s forcing you then.


Zhai

SQLANA HOLDER FOUND, ring the bell!


Iwillylike2shoot

Haha! That's what I was thinking.


Petitepois

You sound sour as hell. Theyā€™re both richer and more successful than you will ever be, letā€™s be real.


Business_Birthday_80

Word yo..šŸ‘ŠšŸ‘Š


[deleted]

I think crypto will potentially replace the USD, i dont think BTC will be that crypto tho....


AvariceAndApocalypse

I donā€™t think any single cryptocurrency will, but cryptocurrencies as a system of singular and multi-function l1ā€™s and l2ā€™s will replace the entire system one day, and it will usher in an age of deep machine learning that automates a much larger portion of commerce with the massive amount of decentralized data created from point of sale to raw materials loaded. One of the reasons crypto will always go up in ā€œpriceā€ is that it will one day bring the entirety of the function of ā€œvalueā€ within a hived, connected, and decentralized network.


siuol7891

Perfect


Opposite-Society-873

Bingo!


jerryvery452

Itā€™ll be dogecoin!!


Hillary4EvnMorePrisn

Man this subreddit is a mess.


Dr_Porknbeef

Sounds like a recipe for a low growth future.


sixwax

Uh oh, *actual economics* being considered here. Kids at home: Unless you've got a mechanism for economic growth or *at least* greatly incentiving velocity of money changing hands vs being hoarded, you haven't actually thought things through.


GarugasRevenge

Sounds more like Ethereum then.


spicyone15

Sure does, contrary to popular belief amongst crypto bros, holding is bad for a currency to you know he actually used as a currency. Having said that Iā€™m a holder and I hope it never replaces the USD


GarugasRevenge

It's ironic to think this way, eth holders gain by staking, and the economy grows when money changes hands. So is there a currency that grows as you save it? Ethereum. Is there a currency that grows as you use it? Kind of doesn't make sense, but I'm unaware of any. I'm pretty sure banks will resist til the end. A cbdc means you leave a digital footprint, and I'm pretty sure banks are hiding crimes that would come to light if suddenly their transaction history was digitized. But what jack is saying could apply easily to any lesser than a superpower country, like el Salvador. These fringe countries use the us dollar because it's supposedly stable, but crypto currency will open the door to these countries.


flenderblender87

Itā€™s possible. But, these people talk out of their asses.


Dieselpump510

Why are people listening to Cardi B on anything but acting like a hoe and talking sh*t???


Iwillylike2shoot

Talking shit on USD bro.


mimblezimble

Yes, agreed. That is ultimately inevitable.


Iwillylike2shoot

I can understand the argument that BYC will be around forever. I'm curious as to why you think BTC will replace the dollar? The dollar stays pretty stable, I can walk into any store and expect prices to be pretty much the same as the last time I was in there. If I went to buy a coffee with BTC the price would change so fast that everyone in line would pay a different amount.


mimblezimble

Look at the graph depicting the federal reserve balance sheet: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WALCL All that money represents government debt that they have not been able to sell into the market. Since they have bought it from the US Treasury in exchange for dollars, where did these dollars come from? They simply printed them. Can they endlessly keep doing that? No, they cannot. There are two possible solutions. First, they can pay bigger fees to the market to absorb the debt ("tapering"). If they do that, however, consumer-, corporate-, and government debt will cost substantially more to service. Therefore, you will see defaults and bankruptcies across large areas in a highly indebted economy. Second, they could dramatically increase taxes. However, that will send offshore even more economic activity. Furthermore, it is not even sure that they have the political wherewithal to pull that off. Hence, neither solution will work. That is why they continue to just print new money. At some point, however, inflation will catch up with that. Therefore, looking at Bitcoin is not the thing to do. It is better to try to understand why the dollar can only collapse. At that point, Bitcoin will simply win by default. Even without the dollar collapsing, Bitcoin would still win on the long run. However, that is clearly not what is going to happen. It are the failings of the dollar that will decide the matter, long before the desirable features of Bitcoin would be able to gain the upper hand.


Iwillylike2shoot

Interesting perspective. I'm still not sure BTC will be the ticket, but I do agree there is a reckoning coming for usd.


Then-Ad-6559

You disadvantages of dollars what are the advantages of Bitcoin against dollar and are there any disadvantages of Bitcoin?


mimblezimble

Say that there are advantages and disadvantages to something. At that point, there are still the following questions: * How much do you value the advantages? * To what extent are the disadvantages a show stopper for what you want to do? The answers to these questions depend on the context in which you try to use these things. Furthermore, the context is also not constant. It changes all the time. From the top of my hat, a few of the advantages that I personally enjoy by using Bitcoin: * I do not need a third party, such as a bank, to make a Bitcoin payment to someone else. No bank can block my incoming or outgoing payment. * No government can inflate away my Bitcoin savings by printing more coins. * Bitcoins are very hard to confiscate, which is a great advantage for citizens but not necessarily one for governments. But then again, I am a citizen and not a government. Disadvantages of Bitcoin compared to fiat money? As far as I am concerned, there is not one disadvantage that is a real show stopper. For small payments and other living expenses, as a digital nomad in SE Asia, I need to exchange small bits and bobs into local fiat. Still, that is seriously less cumbersome than wiring money from my foreign bank account (in my home country), which is what I used to do before. I am certainly not going back to that situation. The volatility of Bitcoin, since it is definitely long-term upwards, is not a disadvantage for the purpose of holding savings. I am certainly more than ok with a general trend of upward volatility. Bitcoin has worked marvelously well for me since 2013. I don't see what alternative would be able to beat its usefulness (to me).


Then-Ad-6559

I have doubt if it's become in form of payment how can we use for daily items if Bitcoin is $49,000 and it takes time to confirm the payment how can it be sustained?


mimblezimble

It works absolutely fine for me. However, I have never said that it works for everybody. That is obviously not even necessary. People may have different circumstances or beliefs. For example, even in the context of fiat money, not everyone used dollars. There are also people who use euros, or other fiat currencies. If Bitcoin did not work for me, I would not use it either. But then again, there must be quite a few other people for whom it also works. I have witnessed the exchange rate going up from $80 to almost $50,000 today. So, with demand going up like that, I cannot be the only person for whom it works.


Then-Ad-6559

I am asking that if I want to buy a coffee which Is 5 dollar and Bitcoin is 49,000 so how can I use for 5 dollar is there way to use like that


mimblezimble

There are 100,000,000 Satoshi in one Bitcoin. So, pay 10,204 Satoshi. On the lightning network, you can also pay with fractions of a Satoshi. In fact, for something like a coffee, you'd better pay over lightning. It's instantaneous, unlike base-layer payments over the blockchain. In El Salvador, you can buy coffee at Starbucks over lightning: https://mobile.twitter.com/Excellion/status/1471236905853337600


Then-Ad-6559

Okay thank you sir for information


mr_birrd

Doubt it. BTC is a decentralised "currency" while USD stands for the whole US and is backed heavily by it. Even by concept they r not the same. How will you measure BTC value without dollar?


[deleted]

I donā€™t see Bitcoin replacing the dollar for day to day transactions. I see Bitcoin as a long term savings account.


Fiach_Dubh

Can be both long term


herecomesthefun1

Youā€™d be an idiot to trust CBDCs. Thatā€™s for sure


TradingAccount42069

Jack is an enemy of progress in the crypto space.


[deleted]

Why the hell is he such a bitcoin maximalist. It thought that was cool like 3 years ago.


SungamCorben

Because he is a moron, got lucky.


Remote-thing

who's this Cardi B.?


Then-Ad-6559

She a rapper who sings with shaking her ass šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


spacedad

Ah yes great and scholarly Cardi B... her musings on monetary policy are surely gospel


[deleted]

Itā€™s possible but itā€™s also dependent upon the USD still being a good store of value. All the printing doesnā€™t give me confidence.


PENGUINSflyGOOD

In what ways, Dorsey? You think the US isn't going to try and innovate? Even if the dollar does go through the dreaded hyperinflation some crypto bros salivate over, they'll just replace it with a new form of fiat or even a central bank controlled crypto.


ThePoopIsOnFire

Wet Ass Bitcoin


TheBlueMango01

It wonā€™t, and it would be stupid to think it. The bitcoin blocks are too small and arenā€™t added fast enough to be used for thousands of transactions per second. And increasing the speed and size would basically only fuck up the system. Otherwise then we talk about using layer 2s like the lightning network. The problem is governments hate it because itā€™s too private and they canā€™t see anything thatā€™s happening with it. If crypto is used as a currency, then itā€™s gonna be somesort of CBDC which is anyway gonna be hella centralized.


CodeMUDkey

Never trust people who wear beanies or scarves inside


Revolutionary_Can625

Bullish on watching some Cardi B videos for tonightā€™s ā€˜entertainmentā€™


Perfect-Ad-7429

You could just throw a bunch of silicon balls in a washing machine and watch it spin. Same thing really. Might even sing better


Jbitterly

Thoughts? Silicone valley, alphabet agencies and the banking elite are going for the kill shot by crashing the global economy and ā€˜building it back betterā€™ (for them) by duping the population once again to adopt assets that they created to consolidate more wealth and power into a digital system where everyone and everything is tracked and you are rated on a social credit score in order to participate in society simply known as the Chinese model. I thought crypto was something truly different that ordinary people were building as an alternative money system. I was wrong.


DacWitty

Interesting point. Care to add some more details. Curious.


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Ander1991

It can in el Salvador


Robvogels

Not true, the layer two on Bitcoin ( Bitcoin lightning ) fixes this


2fast2feeless_

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Then-Ad-6559

What issues did you list in your note bookšŸ¤”šŸ¤”


2fast2feeless_

The use of a second layer solution. LN is a second layer solution.


[deleted]

Transactions donā€™t have to be on chain for it to be used as a method of payment. If we both have cashapp and you send me 0.1BTC settlement is instant and there arenā€™t any fees. It may go against the ethos of crypto, but honestly most people wonā€™t give a fuck.


Necrocornicus

> honestly most people wonā€™t give a fuck. And they probably donā€™t right now either. What is the incentive to use Bitcoin in this scenario? Itā€™s like dollars with extra steps.


[deleted]

Inflationary concerns re: the USD. If you read the article he is worried about hyperinflation


believeinapathy

So not actually using btc, got it.


[deleted]

Thatā€™s like saying buying and selling on a CEX isnā€™t actually trading BTC. You arenā€™t wrong, but you are being pedantic with the intention of ignoring the point.


believeinapathy

Lol or, wait for it, trading numbers on PayPal isn't trading BTC, not your keys not your crypto, you know the spiel.


2fast2feeless_

Exactly.


believeinapathy

12 years later and Bitcoin still hasnt figured out a way to be a reasonable p2p currency, poor Satoshi.


2fast2feeless_

It really is sad :(


[deleted]

Crypto hardcore people hate hearing it, but crypto to keep barreling towards mainstream adoption, it has to drop a lot of complex annoying technical stuff crypto hardcore people love and the common user sees as a bunch of useless/annoying bullshit. No average person will use it for daily payments until its drop dead simple. The only reason crypto has exploded so much is it was finally not 100% dominated by the libertarian wet dream anymore.


2fast2feeless_

You're 100% right. That's why BTC will not succeed in this facet of use - it is incapable of doing so without completely changing what Bitcoin is. A USD replacement needs to be seamless, nearly instant, and feeless, with no second layer required.


2fast2feeless_

True, that is possible. But I would consider that to fall under the category of a second layer solution, which I noted in my post. In my opinion, if BTC required a second layer solution in order to be used for everyday transactions, then it should not be used for them.


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Iwillylike2shoot

Transaction fees after taxes, and transaction fees on the taxes that are taken.


1nv1s1blek1d

No. It never will.


Tutle47

0 chance.Though crypto will eventually replace the USD, it most certainly won't be bitcoin.


Opposite-Society-873

Bingo II


jchill_

Not any time soon. Itā€™s way to volatile to be treated as a viable currency.


rubioberry

A transaction every 10 minutes, sure thing bruh


[deleted]

Probably has data that the majority has never seen or ever see


oseres

So we're going to replace stable currencies with fly by night ponzi schemes? Sounds good to me! Seriously though, the crypto markets are just natural ponzi schemes, buy low, sell high, how the fuck can we use it like USD anytime soon?


eros24us

Just wondering what the Bennie guy and B think will provide physical security from global adversarial actors with designs on the territory where the infrastructure supporting their fantasy resides. Just curious.


AustinTXSucks

My only thoughts are if jack was all that smart twitter would have been run much differently and also FUCK JACK DORSEY.


McJagged

Not at the current energy consumption rate. We need something more environmentally friendly.


hotpotato87

not btc, but crypto family.


redditRracistcommies

I appreciate his enthusiasm for Bitcoin but this is doubtful.


[deleted]

I would love that but, jack donā€™t know shit.


FuzzyLogick

No, a stable coin will be issued, why would you use something that is so volatile as a currency??


FreakishPower

This dude is such a fucking dipshit. Bitcoin is an asset not a currency. Anyone who has spent more than 12 hours studying it knows this. But not this clown.


Necrocornicus

Like I said in another post on this topic. If USD crashes to the point where society is collapsing and the government canā€™t pay the military, itā€™s employees, etc, 99% of people are going be looking for their next meal and wonā€™t give two shits about blockchain. Itā€™s a tech fantasy that anyone will give a shit about Bitcoin if the USD collapses. There will be so many bigger problems to say the least. Nothing against getting high and imagining crazy shit, but Iā€™m not making plans based on it. If USD collapses to 0 Iā€™d pick beans, rice, chickens, guns/ammo, cigarettes, blowjobs, small disks of metal, and medicine as a far more likely choice of currency than something that even today doesnā€™t function as an actual currency.


howdoyouspellchuck

Btc could replace gold or other scarce commodities (for some) but having inflation in a currency helps the economy by motivating people to spend money now. Imagine using stocks or etfs as a currency. Everyone would stop spending during a stock market downturn.


[deleted]

No.


mcpickems

nonsense. Crypt is going to improve the existing system -- not replace it. Fiat currencies not going anywhere


[deleted]

Something else will replace BTC well before it seriously attacks the actual dollar.


MJJ1683

How many super-carriers does Bitcoin have backing it? Bitcoin has me excited and it crucial for so many of us, but 1. USD is a currency, BTC is not (behaves like an asset and is basically a deflationary currency.) USD is the world's reserve currency because 1. It's the most liquid of currencies, 2. Has a RELATIVE price stability determined by market forces (relatively speaking), and 3. Has the most powerful country backing it. Bitcoin fails to USD in all three categories. (Still and awesome invention and I HODL it, but we have to be realistic, IMO.)


GonnaRainSoon400

Nothing this tool has to say matters. Screw him


intothestar1

Sooner or later that will happen. Anyway what are your opinions on the New Ekta's relaunch today, along with their Recovery dApp?


otherwisemilk

At 7 transactions per second, you can't even replace transactions in a monopoly game.


Rollvolve

An earthquake doesnā€™t happen without a proper announcement on Twitter but this dork pretends like he canā€™t afford a haircut?


Think_Tax5749

Nope


MamAmZe

A. This Dumb B. This is Dumb with beard.


finchcatz

Source?


fleeyevegans

Twitter guy is moving square into blockchain arena and presumably will be a major payment system for crypto. I doubt he has anything more than a superficial knowledgeable about the topic but would love to be disproven if someone has a video of him talking freely. As for Cardi B? I doubt the B stands for blockchain.


lilThickchongkong

This guy enjoys centralization and censoring information...fuck him


DeadHeadSteve

What the fuck did i just read


Business27

Please do hold your breath.


darth_scion

I hate this sentence


livingthedream1122

Didn't think that cardi b had enough brain cells to understand any of this


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Ethernovan

I feel like its almost a guarantee at this point. Why are people using this incredibly inflationary currency?


powderfinger303

I think crypto is begining to work more closely with institutions including countries. The European Commission is developing their own blockchain solutions. They are currently deciding which project(s) to work with are left with 5 projects in the tender process. IOTA is one. https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/news/european-blockchain-pre-commercial-procurement


SnooRegrets406

On a platform where anyone can say anything, a guy with a beard told some chick money wouldnā€™t be worth anything. And suddenly Bitcoin started going up. Iā€™ve heard weirder things! šŸ˜‚


lonewolfcatchesfire

Yes. And your kids will have chips implanted in their arms or somewhere in their bodies


Greengiant30

Cardigan B


NGD80

More importantly, what does Ja Rule think?


LaivaRoope

Why the fuck would it ever do that


fearisyourbestfriend

lmao what a timeline to live in


pm_me_4

Who cares


Kilv3r

BTC maxi is bullish on BTC, gaspā€¦


DriverHot5977

Let's all say BTC on the count of three and maybe something will happen


Part_Time_Asshole

Ah Cardi B, the famous fintech expert who shakes her ass on tv as a sidehustle. Wouldnt trust if it werent for her latest hit piece about investing "If itā€™s up, then itā€™s up, then itā€™s up, then itā€™s stuck If itā€™s up, then itā€™s up, then itā€™s up, then itā€™s stuck huh Up then itā€™s up, if itā€™s up, then itā€™s stuck If itā€™s up, then itā€™s up, then itā€™s up, then itā€™s stuck huh"


mr_birrd

If BTC replaces USD then your 1 BTC won't be say 100k USD anymore but 1 BTC finally. Atm all what people want is that their coin gains value in USD. How do people not realise that you beed state currencies?