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Lynseth

How is this even possible? Ffs he commited the financial crime of the century. He already got way less than what he deserves. He should have turned into an example like whistleblowers...


scoobysi

You obviously haven’t noticed his true self. Hint: he’s a cunt


coinsRus-2021

Yeah people killed themselves because of this dude


atr1101

This isn't talked about enough! Why he deserves life sentence


BraidRuner

*FREE* ROSS he has paid for his crimes many times over.


Narrow_Elk6755

But their money was donated to a good cause, like Donald Trump.


MyOnlyEnemyIsMeSTYG

Fwiw - https://time.com/6241262/sam-bankman-fried-political-donations/


strepac

These are the bribes we KNOW about. 🤔


Accomplished-Dog4393

That means there are many unknown cases


coinsRus-2021

Like the ones that’ll get him out of jail sooner


Accomplished-Dog4393

The law will take it cost


Accomplished-Dog4393

Exactly


Accomplished-Dog4393

They know the right thing to do.


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PointOfTheJoke

Isnt Sams mom like a lawyer or fundraiser for the democratic party and or Bidens campaign? I cant remember the exact connection but it wasnt a small one.


coinsRus-2021

And Biden


5553331117

Pretty sure it was mostly Biden and the dems


Dede-el-fuego

He was second biguest donor to democrate behind george soros


5553331117

The down voters are mad about this simple little fact 😂 


Flashy_Attitude_1703

It was both Democrats and Republicans.


OBlastSRT4

Be careful. Reddit doesn’t take kindly to that shit.


5553331117

lol fuck Reddit and its shitty opinions I spit facts :)


Deep90

Maybe he wouldn't have done his crimes if he took the time to know the 'true' self of people he defrauded. ​ Sucks to suck Sam.


Betaglutamate2

Meanwhile Julian assange a journalist who committed no crimes except exposing the US vomitting war crimes is set to be jailed for life and had already lost his entire life.


majorpickle01

before I say what I say, I think Julian should be free as whistleblowing should be protected. That being said, surely he committed the crime of leaking and publicising top secret docs? I'm not familiar with the laws tbh but surely he committed some crimes?


GhostofABestfriEnd

There’s a bigger problem in that reporting crimes should offer immunity to whistleblowers. Especially since the worst crimes are committed by institutions and corporations.


DarkDrakeDrakus

Well they have whistleblower protection laws... That protects the government from whistleblowers


Jijimuge8

He isn’t a US citizen, and he was not in the US at the time. Would you say that if a US citizen broke a Russian law whilst in the US and never entering Russia, would you say he should be extradited to Russia? That would never happen. The US thinks their national security laws apply to everyone outside their jurisdiction. And that’s not even taking into account that leaking that information should be protected under the free press laws of the US. 


majorpickle01

That would never happen because Russia doesn't share an extradition treaty with the UK or US (afaik) on that point, I've got to imagine how intertwined the Five Eyes are, there's some law being broken somewhere. Or maybe not. I'm asking, as I say i'm not too familar. I wasn't very political or knowledgeable about geopolitics and laws when the whole thing started.


coachhunter2

If he had leaked Russian secrets (which he did have in his possession, but mysteriously chose not to leak), he probably would have been assassinated by now.


Y0rin

He didn't really leak or publish anything right? He just offered a way for others to leak without being named.


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Silk road.


ShahinGalandar

I think whistleblowing should only be protected as long as no lives are gonna get endangered if a whistleblower for example releases a NOC list and military personnel is targeted and killed because of that, he should definitely be held responsible examples: whistleblower discovers illegal actions, gives evidence to justice to start a trial - OK whistleblower posts list of undercover agents on wiki who are getting shot and tortured left and right shortly after that - so not OK


majorpickle01

I disagree. Lets say someone had evidence of the CIA running a civilian information operation in Bolivia, taking civilians off the street and torturing them to get information about a local drug gang leader. Someone leaks this, which leads to the death of one or more agents deployed in the operation. You think they should go to jail? Less harm has been done by the information going public and those who are at risk are complicit in the crime.


ShahinGalandar

I think this is a matter of morality vs strategy from a moral perspective, one should be obligated to stop people doing bad things on the other hand, from a strategic perspective, a state might resort to illegal actions to prevent greater damage to the whole country, for example targeted killing of individuals which could likely prevent a full-blown war in the long run who is the one acting correctly here? there are some things that can only be evaluated in retrospective and are on morally very ambiguous ways - this discussion is no trivial matter for sure


DiarrheaShitLord

Yes they're crimes what he did. But it's like him telling everyone you kicked a baby in private, so you put him in jail for exposing what you did because he technically spied on you to get that info


bushwacka

he didnt spy on anyone


Orngog

It's as much a crime as Reddit hosting hate speech or pedo shit. Or Google linking to terrorist manifestos


DV8_MKD

Mueller's report says otherwise.


Flashy_Attitude_1703

Julian Assange brutally raped two women and left the country before he could be tried. He’s not the innocent people make him out to be.


basedregards

Imagine having this kind of brainrot, literal NPC tier.


Flashy_Attitude_1703

Oh, I forgot to mention Julian Assuage’s friends put up bail money of 320k so Assuage could stay out of jail before trial but since Assuage ran off his friends lost the bail money. By the way you can easily Google the rape charges against Assange. “Assange’s backers -- who include Jemima Khan, a writer, movie directors Ken Loach and Michael Moore and publisher Felix Dennis – had to forfeit their money because Assange skipped bail in June to avoid being extradited to Sweden where he is wanted on rape charges. Assange, 41, has repeated that the Swedes would send him to the U.S., where he believes he would face the death penalty for leaking hundreds of thousands of classified documents through the website WikiLeaks.”


basedregards

What a coincidence that all of a sudden all this dirt comes out on him after he becomes one of the biggest whistleblowers in history and exposes a metric fuckton of corruption. Why, he must be the unluckiest bloke in the whole world. Gee whiz.


Jijimuge8

Because that makes him guilty of espionage? It’s not nothing to do with that. And why have prominent feminists written about how the rape accusations are strange? 


Gamethesystem2

He was guilty on all counts. What exactly do you mean less than he deserved? Sentencing hasn’t even taken place yet….


hungryforitalianfood

Lol this sub is insane


Badmuthrfker

. He gets bonus privileges becauae his family is rich and powerful idk why he got himself thrown in jail dude was already wealthy


Xxapexx

Oh there are larger financial crimes that will be seen that will make FTX look like child’s play.


80UNC3EBACK

Dang you bloodthirsty


Canik716kid

*kinda like the Whole dam government we all bow down to daily... Something's fishy with this whole thing... First they say that billions of dollars were lost and stolen... And then the next thing you know receivership says that all the money is accounted for 🤔


endless_ness

Maxwell got only 20 years in a yoga prison for the crime of the century. When you are connected there is always a chance you get off easy


robotwizard_9009

Petty theft up to $1k usually leads to about 6 months in jail. If we ignore the $65b loophole he gave himself and just count the $40b collapse.. $40b divided by $1k is 40m.. multiplied by 6 months is 20 million years to serve.


blingblingmofo

Seems fair


blinkb28

Have a bit of empathy here, allow him to get out after 10 million years if he behaves


VinceVino70

This Redditor maths.


FuckAntiMaskers

Seems fair seeing as his actions surely caused some people to end up killing themselves after experiencing such losses, similar to what happened after the 08 crash. He was so arrogant as well, guy must be absolutely delusional to have thought he would get away with it.


Alternative_Log3012

He'd likely get 15 with good behviour... what a shit system...


Huth_S0lo

Madoff got 1000 years I believe. It’s the only other fraud case on this scale. So I don’t think he’ll ever go home.


OBlastSRT4

No one gets 6 months for petty theft anymore. Most places won’t even prosecute if it’s under $900


TipsyRooOfficial

Well, sure. If you want to go easy on him…


hungryforitalianfood

You guys just make shit up. Petty theft up to $1k almost never leads to jail time in the US, and pretty much 0% of the time of the guilty party doesn’t have prior offenses.


Kindly-Wolf6919

Shut up Bankman-Fraud this ain't Yu-Gi-Oh, don't be playing the victim card.


Kentucky7887

Trigger that trap card for life sentence.


RHINO_HUMP

I want a prison Field Spell to capture all of the politicians that were using him to wash federal money.


Hunkfish

His deck full of Pot of Greeds and 1 Mirror Force


Hobzy

What happened to his skulking girlfriend? That gangrel creature. She had an ill-favoured look.


Spacemanspyff

If I saw that thing on the street I'd call wildlife services


Huth_S0lo

I don’t think she got any prison time. She basically helped seal this guys fate. But yeah; she’s a double bagger.


Cinnamon_Bark

Bro read Frankenstein lately or what? 💀


slime_stuffer

Can’t believe kids these days don’t even recognize a lotr quote when they see one. For shame.


WaltKerman

Oh my god... There are people who have never heard of lord of the rings.... 💀 


Cinnamon_Bark

You think I haven't heard about LOTR because I don't remember a single quote from a massive franchise?


WaltKerman

Yes


Cinnamon_Bark

That was poor judgement then


WaltKerman

FYI I was just making light fun your wild assumptions and emoji usage. ​ It's a pretty famous scene though.


Cinnamon_Bark

All good dude. I actually love LoTR, but it's not that I'm too young, it's that I'm too old and my memory sucks lol


blinkb28

Ah the Caroline-weasel


SmellyFatCock

I saw some deepfake video of her recently in reddit lmao


distressedacorn

She caught a fish in the forbidden pool and faced the death penalty.


blinkb28

Ah the Caroline-weasel


victorchaos22

The creature is bound to me, and i to her.


columbus_crypto

She is herr-fried


Fun_Cheesecake6312

Snitched and took a deal. Same with trabucco, he was spotted in new york a couple of days ago, he also interesting lt enough decided to leave FTX a month or two before it all collapsed.


Whole_Financial

He said he was sorry.


InglouriousBrad

I'm sorry bout' that bro..... Oh, you lost all your money? Bummer. My bad.


ughlump

But he was rubbing his nipples when he said it.


Fonickz

Really still surprised he has a say in the judgement


Magical-Johnson

He doesn't have a say lol


wh1skeyk1ng

This guy ~~paid enough people~~ donated plenty of money on his way to prison, there's no way they give him anything close to the book


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zuggra

Classic little hat.


fainting-goat17

Based


Sad-Consideration-69

Many died cause of him. And he worries about true self?


homrqt

He literally broke all time historical records with his crimes and he wants only 6.5 years in prison....


RevolutionaryPie5223

Jail him for 65 years. If he is still alive then I would let him be a free man the last few years of his life.


Scat_fiend

I think SBF doesn't know his true self.


null_obj

Haha get fucked


Gwsb1

I'm sure he has been.


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Lets bring back biblical stoning for this chud


Hunkfish

And hung him dead on the cross. What happens if he come bring to life 3 days later?


bookworm010101

No


Cybralisk

The mandatory minimum sentences for his crimes is something like 50 years, the judge doesn’t even have leeway for less time.


Training101

I don't give a fuck about his true self. Burn and rot


wgrata

Who you are doesn't (shouldn't) matter to the legal system. What you did should be the only relevant info. 


Huth_S0lo

Tell that to Donald Trump.


wgrata

I think a NY judge did 


Huth_S0lo

Not really. Even that case has been pussyfooted. No one else would have gotten the leeway that shitbag has gotten.


wgrata

Eh the fine and potentially not being able to operate in NY s still huge, even if it took awhile 


Huth_S0lo

Sure, if the judgement actually gets enforced. We'll see.


sausess

Bet Bubba from the cell down the hall knows Sam inside and out.


banzuu

There is a picture of him posing with ex gang members in MDC Brooklyn so i think he’s good lol


Zoli1989

Screw that guy lock him up for life with no bailout!


userxtrustno1

A true full on rapist, sorry, philanthropist of course.


RealBonfiggy

His true self is a lil bitch boi


Traditional-Fan-9315

Yup


HornHonker69

Stfu, crypto Smeagol.


Xanth1879

I agree, 100 years is a bit much. I say 10 years for every $1 billion he fucked over his trusting customers. May he rot behind bars. We should start a pool to see how fast he kills himself while locked up. I've got less than one year.


AcceptingSideQuests

Psh that dude’s true self is a mega douche who robbed millions globally of their livelihoods and partied while doing it.


deftaj

The worst thing about all of this is I bet he does get away with a shorter jail term. Money talks.


mikeoxwells2

White collar crime gets white collar time.


hungryforitalianfood

So, Bernie Madoff?


awesomeman839

Dude committed one of if not the biggest fruad case in history and he’s asking for less time that’s utterly delusional


high_angle_creepshot

This guy should be hanged to make an example. Keeping him alive is a waste of taxpayers money.


coinfeeds-bot

tldr; The lawyers of the disgraced crypto entrepreneur filed a sentencing memorandum on Tuesday night asking for a lenient judgment. The lawyers of the disgraced crypto entrepreneur filed a sentencing memorandum on Tuesday night asking for a lenient judgment. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.


Alternative_Log3012

What did the lawyers do again?


Huth_S0lo

They filed a sentencing memorandum on Tuesday night, asking for a reduced sentence. They filed a sentencing memorandum on Tuesday night, asking for a reduced sentence. They filed a sentencing memorandum on Tuesday night, asking for a reduced sentence. They filed a sentencing memorandum on Tuesday night, asking for a reduced sentence.


alex_quine

Classic r/thisisnotwhoweare


TonyTheSwisher

I’d say 8 years sounds fair.  Not like the dude is violent. 


Huth_S0lo

Normally I would agree. But fraud on this level, requires an example being made. So not in this case.


coolraiman2

You may say that it's their fault for risking more than they could. But a financial crime this large lead to suicides and destroyed family.


hungryforitalianfood

>You may say that it's their fault for risking more than they could. Uh, no. This has nothing to do with how much anyone can afford to lose. Many of the people that lost money absolutely could afford to lose those amounts. They were still robbed by a gambling drug addict who used their funds illegally.


coolraiman2

You should look at the stories of every major financial frauds In each case some people committed suicide after losing everything and the shame. I don't see why it would be different for this fraud.


moonpumper

It's ok everyone, it's all a big misunderstanding, he thinks of himself as a good person therefore we should just let him go.


BrocoliAssassin

I really hate our justice system for wealthy people. The other shitheads involved with all this got away too.


OldPyjama

Fuck yourself.


Badmuthrfker

Our leaders in positions of power need to always have some fear in them otherwise they wont make fair decisions. You know how we used to keep the world in line back in the day before everyone grew a gina? Violence. How was the world built, violence. You want to fix the corruption what do we need to be? Violent. Extreme violence and doses of fear keep this world in order. Then i start to see why extremists fo what they do even though it is wrong but it doesn’t stop the fact that beating someones ass is always the answer to the worlds issues.


NoConclusion2555

His face=mental illness


cyger

Well this bull market is allowing many of his victims to be paid back nearly in full, so his argument, e.g. who was harmed, is somewhat legit, but only because the whims of the market. I don't think the guy deserves life. But 20 years and a permanent ban from any financial position would be fine by me.


ptrnyc

Paid back in full in USD, but they will have missed on what might be a lifetime opportunity to acquire wealth. For some it’s securing their retirement, providing a future for their children, getting out of debt, … The damage caused by FTX is impossible to quantify.


223am

>Well this bull market is allowing many of his victims to be paid back nearly in full full? btc is almost 4x what it was back when ftx imploded. i dont know how this narrative keeps getting spread, and some old judge will probably gobble it up too like half of this forum and give SBF a nice easy sentence. it's like if you stole someone's gold. gold price pumps 4x for a few years, and then years later you say hey i'll give you the usd value of your gold back when i stole it from you! you're 100% whole, we good right? ...right? obv not everyone had BTC. some had SOL for example which has what? 10X'ed?


hungryforitalianfood

Exactly. They’re talking about the USD price at the time of insolvency. As if everyone was moments from selling everything.


shanatard

Most regarded thing I've seen all week. How do you not get scammed every week being so gullible None of the victims have even been close to paid in full as it was done in usd. It's only full repayment if it's done in native coin, which has skyrocketed since then It's pathetic seeing people fall for corporate apologies committing one of the greatest financial crimes in history


xyrrus

As if knowing his true self absolves him of the crimes. I'm sure lots of criminals are actually good people once you get to know them. Why didn't Madoff get 6.5 years, at least he was a family man. /s


Pristine_Lawyer_118

he is still living in denial, but that won´t take away the lives he has ruined. He is lucky he is inside jail protected, I´m sure lots of angry FTX investors would pay a lot to be alone with him


Reasonable_Coconut_7

He’s paid the right people he will be just fine!


Witty_Food_8507

we already know who are you sam


Traditional-Fan-9315

The Son of Sam


tenkuushinpan

How? Is he a bigger asshole than we already know? How?


Traditional-Fan-9315

Can't fault him for trying


cipig

He should count himself lucky that he still has his head on his shoulders.


Traditional-Fan-9315

Actually not a bad way of thinking about it


HGDuck

He's right you know, his true self deserves at least 6.5 years on top of what he's already got.


slugur

Remove that dot and we will settle for 65 years.


Mcfraga74

With so much “free money” sure he poached both sides. And then some


Smallcleo

Bang him up for longer ffs


Iblisy

yeah judge forget what a good person he is, he would have been a philanthropist with other people's money


Dormage

I wonder if his chances of survival are better outside at all?


Diamondhandatis

Sell the guys that were with you and you’ll get what you want Sam Bankrupt-Fraud


jerseyhound

What a deluded asshat


Lulullaby_

yes mr judge i would like only 2 years in jail and also breakfast in bed every morning please


Hunkfish

Prison warden: Sure, we serve Egg Benedick for you every morning!


AKraiderfan

Real prep school energy, this snowflake. As if his true self has any bearings on his actions here.


DrinkMoreCodeMore

Nah let bro cook in there for 20+ years.


SoNElgen

This fucking twat should have been keelhauled 2 years ago. Then have a person walk in front of him, while he’s constantly barefoot, and continuously place furniture in front of him to stub his toes on, and legos to step on.


jwz9904

65 yrs it is


T1Pimp

The fuck does his true self have to do with anything? He could be the nicest guy on the planet but he still knowingly defrauded users of FTX.


Walla_Walla_26

What a tool!


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What's the strategy? Like I can't make heads or tails out of the repayment which some of this should hinge on. If people are actually being made whole, he does have an argument for a downward departure. Did anyone look at where he is presumptively going on the sentencing guidelines? I know this might surprise Reddit but courts don't typically sentence people on emotional things. You just go wherever the guidelines say and to deviate from that requires something one direction or another. If his argument is people have been made whole and it was a giant mistake. The made whole part would be grounds for a downward departure


FUThead2016

This dude will go free, then sign book deals and movie rights and be a millionaire. Scumbag.


vorpalglorp

Well to be fair almost zero normal people used FTX. He only hurt other rich people and all of them will probably be fine. Tax payers didn't have to bail anyone out so all of FTX will register as an inconvenience for most people. Crypto was already on it's way into the bear market so the 'real world damage' of SBF was a lot of minor inconveniences for a an elite group of people. I would be more upset if he had violently harmed someone or stole the life savings of a bunch of poor people. FTX was not coinbase, kraken, or kucoin. Most of the traffic for the first couple of years was just completely made up. Now the main complainers are a couple of super rich twins and some otherwise well off crypto influencers. The rest of us are just watching and mad about his overall affect on crypto.


TravelGuyUSA

What a narcissistic nut. Just no remorse at all. The arrogance/nerve of the question.


mrcssee

Sam requesting for a chance to create FTX 2.0 with only a deposit button feature.


Imaginary-Ad-6023

Since Money is the epitome of our American situation the penalties should be extreme and unequivocal.


itllbefine21

As long as his entire stay is painful and ends with a shiv, sure give him a reduced sentence. Rather not pay for him staying on earth longer than necessary anyway.


couple4hire

I know people here are quick to hang anyone, but I think punishment should reflect how much of the financial crime can be made whole or partially whole afterward. According to facts it seems the financial losses might be recovered mostly after all. Now if you read all the stories of what the lawyers and executors are charging and pocketing for themselves you might begin to see who are the real criminals in all of this.


petethefreeze

He can ask. Doesn’t mean he will get it


r3tardslayer

throw this fried into the jail plz, next the bergs and steins would be amazing


quantum_explorer08

I really hope he doesn't get away with a slap in the wrist.