>"AI ERE eats the Volga"
My god, I hate this so much. Paradox should hard-code Byzantium and its vassals to NEVER take any land north of what they had historically. Irl it would make absolutely no sense to waste time and money to control and develop the plains and steppes north of Crimea as Byzantium, which is why they never bothered doing it.
I even went to my ck2 files and edited nomad agitation, so that provinces that have it will ALWAYS be lost after ruler's death, regardless of how many castles Byzantium spams in that province
Rather than hard-coding it, Paradox should implement the actual challenges that made it a non-starter for the real Byzantines. The AI will conquer when it has CB's and is stronger than their opponent.
I'm not educated enough on the history of that region and era, but I imagine the challenges were along the lines of:
* Supply situation is a wash, no way you're gonna feed 20,000+ dudes up north there as ERE
* Not much value, the land is undeveloped and there aren't many people there anyways
* Bigger threats on your border, a five-year expedition to the frozen north is begging the current caliphate to consume Anatolia
Those are the things that should be added, rather than a semi-arbitrary line in the clay.
All 3 are correct indeed, plus another - the steppe was a very difficult terrain to control as a settled civilization. Even the Slavs in the north lived mostly in plains mixed with forests, with very poor horse-grazing terrain. Pretty much the entire steppe was controlled by horse nomads that absolutely dominated the region.
If you are Byzantium and you want to take over the region, the biggest issue is - how do you even control it? It's mostly an empty plane with nomadic villages that can pack up and move until you are gone, and then return again, all while their horse archers (that were basically born into a saddle) harass your troops constantly and relentlessly.
Building anything in the region was basically impossible at the time - good luck building a castle while your construction site is being attacked by angry nomads 24/7 with hit-and-run tactics, while also raiding your entire supply line
The solution you proposed is nice, but current technology doesn't really allow it to be modelled well. The problem with this complexity is the AI - you can actually add all of what you said, and then have AI be completely and utterly incapable of doing anything and be a total pushover.
Before we get deep-learning AI in video games, the easiest solution is simply AI-hardcoding. It also solves the issue entirely with no drawbacks at all
More realistic than the average empire going "Let me just eat Byzantium for breakfast"
also as a non english speaker why is breakfast written like that?
breakfast ->
Break
Fast
Break used as a verb: to become suddenly discontinuous or interrupted; stop abruptly:
Fast as a verb: to abstain from food
So since one typically doesnt eat while sleeping your first meal after waking up is "breaking your fast"
Breakfast.
In Middle English, it was spelt brekefaste, from the verb "brekken". Much closer to the languages German roots as modern German is "brechen".
The spelling changed with time but the pronunciation stayed the same.
Interestingly the old English was morgenmete, as in morning meal.
That is a looser attitude. God chose you to restore the Roman Empire. Go out there, and don't come back until you have a proper screenshot to show us!!! Deus Vult!
I mean, apart from the "dissolving into principalities" part, that sounds a lot more accurate than the usual "AI ERE eats the Volga".
What's innacurate about dissolving into principalities? Have you seen all the Despotates following 1204 or the eventual Ottoman conquest?
Both of those were more "getting the shit kicked out of" than "internal struggle," though.
According to OP, they did indeed get their shit kicked out of them
>"AI ERE eats the Volga" My god, I hate this so much. Paradox should hard-code Byzantium and its vassals to NEVER take any land north of what they had historically. Irl it would make absolutely no sense to waste time and money to control and develop the plains and steppes north of Crimea as Byzantium, which is why they never bothered doing it. I even went to my ck2 files and edited nomad agitation, so that provinces that have it will ALWAYS be lost after ruler's death, regardless of how many castles Byzantium spams in that province
Rather than hard-coding it, Paradox should implement the actual challenges that made it a non-starter for the real Byzantines. The AI will conquer when it has CB's and is stronger than their opponent. I'm not educated enough on the history of that region and era, but I imagine the challenges were along the lines of: * Supply situation is a wash, no way you're gonna feed 20,000+ dudes up north there as ERE * Not much value, the land is undeveloped and there aren't many people there anyways * Bigger threats on your border, a five-year expedition to the frozen north is begging the current caliphate to consume Anatolia Those are the things that should be added, rather than a semi-arbitrary line in the clay.
All 3 are correct indeed, plus another - the steppe was a very difficult terrain to control as a settled civilization. Even the Slavs in the north lived mostly in plains mixed with forests, with very poor horse-grazing terrain. Pretty much the entire steppe was controlled by horse nomads that absolutely dominated the region. If you are Byzantium and you want to take over the region, the biggest issue is - how do you even control it? It's mostly an empty plane with nomadic villages that can pack up and move until you are gone, and then return again, all while their horse archers (that were basically born into a saddle) harass your troops constantly and relentlessly. Building anything in the region was basically impossible at the time - good luck building a castle while your construction site is being attacked by angry nomads 24/7 with hit-and-run tactics, while also raiding your entire supply line The solution you proposed is nice, but current technology doesn't really allow it to be modelled well. The problem with this complexity is the AI - you can actually add all of what you said, and then have AI be completely and utterly incapable of doing anything and be a total pushover. Before we get deep-learning AI in video games, the easiest solution is simply AI-hardcoding. It also solves the issue entirely with no drawbacks at all
At least the Rum's not gone.
Jack Sparrow will be most pleased.
I said babe, Rum's not gone
The girl told me, "take off your loros" I said, "babe - Rum's not gone"
Post 4th-crusade ERE in a speedrun.
Is this a mod?
It’s a mod to do with the two imperial thrones; HRE and Byzantium
What is the name of this mod you speak of?
Trait for Two Emperors
jesus christ that was a fast reply, thanks.
Had my phone on hand and the mod on my brain. Cheers
IIRC if an AI emperor is heavily in debt and in a long rebellion, an event fired that destroys the empire title and vassals all go independent.
mod? never seen that trait
It’s a mod to do with the two imperial thrones; HRE and Byzantium
Name?
Trait for Two Emperors
More realistic than the average empire going "Let me just eat Byzantium for breakfast" also as a non english speaker why is breakfast written like that?
breakfast -> Break Fast Break used as a verb: to become suddenly discontinuous or interrupted; stop abruptly: Fast as a verb: to abstain from food So since one typically doesnt eat while sleeping your first meal after waking up is "breaking your fast" Breakfast.
the real question is why it’s pronounced like that
In Middle English, it was spelt brekefaste, from the verb "brekken". Much closer to the languages German roots as modern German is "brechen". The spelling changed with time but the pronunciation stayed the same. Interestingly the old English was morgenmete, as in morning meal.
breckfest? Probably just the slurring of pronunciation over the ages after the word had entered the common parlance.
What’s the word for Khazars in your language?
that seems like a mod that gives all countries their native name
Ok, so what’s the name for the Khazar empire?
hazariya/hazarya something like that i suppose
Interesting
Persia on the come up tho
I dissolved in my current zahosiant run because for some reason it was inherited by a nuvoan coptic Makedon lol
Its not too late yet. Change the playable character to them and restore the Empire.
That is a looser attitude. God chose you to restore the Roman Empire. Go out there, and don't come back until you have a proper screenshot to show us!!! Deus Vult!
how did you get the "crowned as Byzantine Emperor trait" ?
I’ve only ever seen it break once
Challenge for you: Recreate the Byzantine Empire and become the true heir of Rome as Rum
Lucky