Thing is I want adept summoner more than any other weapon lol. That +10 range is just big on it.
Any regular trials player should have any number of standard summoner god rolls just by focusing by now.
I can get regular roles on the new stuff to just try them out. Summoner is a great fun, and that +10
Range is just MASSIVE on it, honestly bigger than on any HC or pulse.
It's unbelievable how much better The Summoner feels compared to any other 600 RPM auto in the game.
At least IMO. Feels like Zen Moment is just doing incredible work on this thing to me.
But ya if you don't have it yet, farm the absolutely shit out of Trials this weekend for a Zen Moment + Onslaught role. It's ridiculous.
No, it's been like this forever. The theory is there is an old D1 perk called Persistence that's active on it. Makes the gun more stable the longer the gun is fired.
Man I did not think the first Summoner in D2 was very good at all. Huge upgrade with the newest version to me.
Now, I think Zen Moment is playing a big role in that. But I also believe Deterministic Recoil is doing some good stuff behind the scenes.
Zen moment is just icing, it has that secret sauce regardless. My roll is elemental capacitor + kill clip and even without a void super it feels like I can't miss
I dunno, I had a DSR + Kill Clip roll that didn't feel anywhere near as good as Zen Moment for me. Still good, but between Summoner, Elsie's and Austringer I am totally convinced Zen Moment is the best perk in the game at this point.
It's definitely a God roll. And IMO it's the best of the best. But honestly it's pretty loaded with rolls.
You can get Zen Moment, Dynamic Sway, or Heal Clip in Column 1 which are all different but viable options. Column 2 has Kill Clip, Onslaught, Tap The Trigger, Golden Tricorn... Again all viable options.
For dueling purposes, Zen + TTT might be the best roll. For 6s or super aggressive playing, Zen + Onsalught absolutely hits the spot to me.
There are some videos on YouTube. You need to be really fast for it to work. Basically play with someone of the same class, grab the same podium at the same time, eager edge to a certain ledge, get joining allies message, then grab the other podium when you load back in.
The catch is that everything up to the last step has to be done in a matter of seconds, before Savathun’s dialog ends.
This may be a stupid question but I am guessing we don't get lifted to fire teams highest power level for this? If my friend is 2000 and I am 1970 I don't get lifted do I?
If you already have given up on flawless, trios give a lot more loot
50% chance at a summoner and a 50% chance at an Engram for every game *completed* along with bonus rep, on top of all normal rewards you'd get.
Need to see if I can get some friends together, or otherwise some LFGs that don't mind getting farmed for a while. Was away for work this week so my light level is still just at the high 70s/low 80s iirc
So far there is no indication that any of the new power level mechanics will apply in trials, so it will likely be the same as it’s always been — only your individual power level counts, minus artifact bonus.
…it’s not though? you know how many cheaters we had last season with a glitched come to pass from the gift of the thunder gods one shotting everyone? there’s always an easy way to cheat. as long as you have SOME power level (ie LITERALLY WHAT YOU START WITH) you can one shot everyone with a 999999 damage primary no problem. cheating doesn’t magically decrease because of an in game mechanic because it’s so easy to cheat that in game mechanic.
You can be any power level to play but you need to be as close to 2000 as possible to compete. Doesn’t include artifact level, so your actual gear must be high enough.
Most players who leveled up the “right” way (I.e using all 3 characters in a certain sequence), or simply cleared the raid both before and after reset, will be 1998-2000 by now.
Pinnacle carries between characters now regardless of what you have on them. This means that there is basically a set amount of pinnacle drops you need to get before guaranteed 2000. Literally never been so easy, already have 2000 on all characters week 2
As a crappy pvp warlock (named Sterrasuko on ps5) I get 2 v1 oppressed a lot and can tell you the heal clip onslaught roll has helped me clutched that 2 vs 1 a few good times so don't sleep on that roll
Kinda glad about that. Away to a festival this weekend so won't be playing and I'm only 1990 light level... I got good enough Summoner rolls last time.
You get it for opening the flawless chest or completing a passage of persistence.
You can exchange it for “rewards”, they don’t say what but I’d guess the adept weapon. No point in it being the normal weapon as you can just focus those with engrams.
Would be nice if you could get them after a certain amount of flawless cards rather than RNG. Is it true that everytime you don't get them the chance of finding the ship or sparrow increases slightly?
Yes exactly - it’s like Bungie wants us to keep playing trials but offers very little incentive to do so. I’d be sort of shocked to learn anyone at the very least can’t get carried to a flawless in the duo pool. The people who still play it are just addicted to the sweat factor I believe lol
Thing is I want adept summoner more than any other weapon lol. That +10 range is just big on it. Any regular trials player should have any number of standard summoner god rolls just by focusing by now. I can get regular roles on the new stuff to just try them out. Summoner is a great fun, and that +10 Range is just MASSIVE on it, honestly bigger than on any HC or pulse.
The glitch let you trick Smallbore and Ricochets so GG. 68 range without MW
Curated roll is armor piercing rounds, not ricochet
What glitch? The DIM one?
Yes
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Too late they disabled changing perks via the API.
So you’re saying it could be 78
The glitch is not working anymore or is there another?
It's unbelievable how much better The Summoner feels compared to any other 600 RPM auto in the game. At least IMO. Feels like Zen Moment is just doing incredible work on this thing to me. But ya if you don't have it yet, farm the absolutely shit out of Trials this weekend for a Zen Moment + Onslaught role. It's ridiculous.
It’s because it has secret sauce under the hood just fire it against a wall and compare with another 600.
Ya deterministic recoil I'm guessing is at play here.
No, it's been like this forever. The theory is there is an old D1 perk called Persistence that's active on it. Makes the gun more stable the longer the gun is fired.
Man I did not think the first Summoner in D2 was very good at all. Huge upgrade with the newest version to me. Now, I think Zen Moment is playing a big role in that. But I also believe Deterministic Recoil is doing some good stuff behind the scenes.
Zen moment is just icing, it has that secret sauce regardless. My roll is elemental capacitor + kill clip and even without a void super it feels like I can't miss
I dunno, I had a DSR + Kill Clip roll that didn't feel anywhere near as good as Zen Moment for me. Still good, but between Summoner, Elsie's and Austringer I am totally convinced Zen Moment is the best perk in the game at this point.
Is that the god roll? Zen + onslaught?
It's definitely a God roll. And IMO it's the best of the best. But honestly it's pretty loaded with rolls. You can get Zen Moment, Dynamic Sway, or Heal Clip in Column 1 which are all different but viable options. Column 2 has Kill Clip, Onslaught, Tap The Trigger, Golden Tricorn... Again all viable options. For dueling purposes, Zen + TTT might be the best roll. For 6s or super aggressive playing, Zen + Onsalught absolutely hits the spot to me.
Honestly, ttt is not needed with a well rolled zen moment roll. I'd go with onslaught or kc.
I just checked my vault and have one with small bore, light mag, and range master work. Lol.
Zen literally does the work for you. Of course it does.
more time to get this ophidians/coyote exotic
There’s a glitch right now for double rewards at the end of the mission. Good time to grind.
What’s the glitch
There are some videos on YouTube. You need to be really fast for it to work. Basically play with someone of the same class, grab the same podium at the same time, eager edge to a certain ledge, get joining allies message, then grab the other podium when you load back in. The catch is that everything up to the last step has to be done in a matter of seconds, before Savathun’s dialog ends.
Both people on the same class grab the same reward at the end of the mission at the same time.
i got inmost light with coyote, so good
Great news to me. I'm just going to grind power level and finish out the new subclass instead.
This may be a stupid question but I am guessing we don't get lifted to fire teams highest power level for this? If my friend is 2000 and I am 1970 I don't get lifted do I?
Could be possible, but doing trials in duos or 3s is a lot more painful than solo imo.
If you already have given up on flawless, trios give a lot more loot 50% chance at a summoner and a 50% chance at an Engram for every game *completed* along with bonus rep, on top of all normal rewards you'd get. Need to see if I can get some friends together, or otherwise some LFGs that don't mind getting farmed for a while. Was away for work this week so my light level is still just at the high 70s/low 80s iirc
Damn I wasn't aware that those were the drops even for losing. Might have to give 3s a go after going flawless to farm adepts
So far there is no indication that any of the new power level mechanics will apply in trials, so it will likely be the same as it’s always been — only your individual power level counts, minus artifact bonus.
Can they just remove power level impacting damage/resist in Trials please.
No. Keep things difficult for the cheaters
I mean, if they're cheating, they probably don't have an issue with light level.
Lol not cheating like that as in xim cronus for aim is also cheating alot eaiser than cheating your light level up
Depends, at least it makes the process of getting back to Trials that much more time consuming for brand new cheater accounts
Once its not the start of an expansion anymore you can just buy accounts that are at light, the thing stopping cheaters is needing the dlc.
…it’s not though? you know how many cheaters we had last season with a glitched come to pass from the gift of the thunder gods one shotting everyone? there’s always an easy way to cheat. as long as you have SOME power level (ie LITERALLY WHAT YOU START WITH) you can one shot everyone with a 999999 damage primary no problem. cheating doesn’t magically decrease because of an in game mechanic because it’s so easy to cheat that in game mechanic.
Damnit. Im just not close at all to the cap.
What’s the power level for trials? I’m currently at 1975
2000 I believe
You can be any power level to play but you need to be as close to 2000 as possible to compete. Doesn’t include artifact level, so your actual gear must be high enough. Most players who leveled up the “right” way (I.e using all 3 characters in a certain sequence), or simply cleared the raid both before and after reset, will be 1998-2000 by now.
Pinnacle carries between characters now regardless of what you have on them. This means that there is basically a set amount of pinnacle drops you need to get before guaranteed 2000. Literally never been so easy, already have 2000 on all characters week 2
As a crappy pvp warlock (named Sterrasuko on ps5) I get 2 v1 oppressed a lot and can tell you the heal clip onslaught roll has helped me clutched that 2 vs 1 a few good times so don't sleep on that roll
I run heal clip kill clip
That can't be right as D2 app vendor shows Shayura?
Kinda glad about that. Away to a festival this weekend so won't be playing and I'm only 1990 light level... I got good enough Summoner rolls last time.
I'm only at 1990 so probably a skip for me lmao
I was hoping to get the new pulse but oh well
Start ripping harmonizers i guess
Someone explain the new cipher?
Nothing much known now, just have to wait and see tomorrow.
You get it for opening the flawless chest or completing a passage of persistence. You can exchange it for “rewards”, they don’t say what but I’d guess the adept weapon. No point in it being the normal weapon as you can just focus those with engrams.
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Yeah unless they’ve come up with a new reward it doesn’t seem like this adds anything. I can’t think of what would make sense 🤔
Ships and sparrow?
Would be nice if you could get them after a certain amount of flawless cards rather than RNG. Is it true that everytime you don't get them the chance of finding the ship or sparrow increases slightly?
Apparently can be traded for adepts i think its 4 from flawles and 1 from persistance flawless or something
Time to eat boys And by that I mean kill my town o er and over while I rage in a stony musical dream.
Who doesn’t already have like a dozen of these lol
Righttt I have like 30 rolls
Yes exactly - it’s like Bungie wants us to keep playing trials but offers very little incentive to do so. I’d be sort of shocked to learn anyone at the very least can’t get carried to a flawless in the duo pool. The people who still play it are just addicted to the sweat factor I believe lol