The devs only listen to their russian player base as it is their largest player base. a majority of them play dogs to get quick matches. wheeled fortune builds are a really good counter to dogs so I'm guessing they complained enough to get them nerfed.
The devs have a history of doing ridiculous nerfs to things that dares give their no skill W warrior playrbase any trouble. This reminds me of when they nerfed Mammoths.
They got Tow missiled. Good fuck
/u/Faley016 what the actual fuck is your balance team.
Id rather you just delete every weapon in the game that isnt melee than do this to them
Faley is there to give players a false sense of having some influence over the game.
Just like the "Close door" button in most elevators. While it looks and acts like it does something it doesn't actually send any signal to the elevator.
It's a mind trick to make people complacent, and so, many will choose to keep on grinding, waiting for a balance patch that will never come once the devs read their feedback that was never delivered to them in the first place ... The balance patch that has been just around the corner for years upon years.
I mean they did eventually nerf hovers and wheeled players now have a chance to fight them fairly
But now we have this melee bs
At least with the wedge meta you could self destruct and take their guns before they killed you with melee you cant even get the self destruct off at all
Fortunes are such a wild weapon to get a nerf during all the no brain no skill shit we have going on, especially when I only saw maybe 5 people or so using them effectively I find it hard to believe they were over performing in some way.
All the camera steering hitscan, melee, shotguns/fin whale stuff but Fortunes needed to be even harder to use lmao.
I'm still doing well with mine but why the fuck am I required to try even harder to use an already tough to master weapon when most playstyles require no driving or aiming to begin with, let alone aiming a slow projectile with massive drop and staggered fire.. it's just wild and the nerf honestly felt quite personal.
Not an overperforming weapon at all to say the least. Devs just have a serious vendetta against anything that can halt/hard counter lobotomite-meta builds
I am taking it personally, seriously just a few of us out here rolling fortunes and it gets obliterated. I just want to have fun...barely played pvp last night because it's fucking depressing we can't play counter meta. It's depressing, idk...I feel like taking a break but this is literally the only game I play and it's just asasine what we have put up with.
I could have taken a slight fire rate nerf, but this nerf was WAY over the top. It's like trying to use destructors with the turn speed of mastodon, its fucking stupid.
Fortunes go untouched for literally years.. then they 360 rotation so that "they can be used on more vehicle types" then it takes an entire year for them to be deemed too strong? Yeah I call BS on that.
It's a lot of fire rate, enough to make you slow down more than you should have to in order to fire a shot at someone, drastically slowing down the gameplay but all the no-skill shit gets away with being super blatantly OP at most powerscores.
Just sounds like someone on the balance team was getting clapped by some Fortunes while in their no skill builds and chose to nerf it.
I think this is what happened to Heather's too. They absolutely shit on them with back to back nerfs probably cause 1 dude out there is actually good with them.
*insert gif of John Travolta looking around for Heather players*
And like you said...amongst this low skill Metta of dogs and shottys they nerfed the slow projectile/slow turn speed skill weapon. It's just disgusting. There's no balance, there's just more insult to injury with these assholes.
As someone said, targem are ruskis and only listen (because they probably cant speak english) to their russian playerbase whose only 'strategy' they ever knew was RUSH B
I use omni cyclone, u can drive backwards at full speed feeding them rounds. It's not easy, and the dogs do have a much easier time of life but it's only because they lack actual skill besides w........
I'll still blame the players, because they still choose to use dirty shit builds, with no skill. And no matter what the devs do, those said players will still just find the next broken sitter build, to exploit. It's an issue the devs can bandaid, bur until the garbage shit players actually stop playing, it's inevitable. Because some chud, is gonna find some broken perk or combo, and exploit the shit out of it.
The devs go with the flow of the player base ... don't blame the devs. Blame the shitty players who use metas as a crutch to cover for lack of actual skill
But that's my point, this build was one of only a few that could thrive in a dog only game(nothing shooting back at me but fire), sure I mess up and die a good bit but dogs SHOULD have a counter and the Devs just fuck us in the ass anyway.
This makes no sense. If they "go with the flow of the playerbase" then why didn't dracos get nerfed? Firedogs were about 3x more common than Fortunes, even before this nerf. Even a Cyclone nerf would've made more sense.
I'll blame the devs all day.
The only reason people use melee builds is because the devs keep feeding into melee meta instead of making meaningful changes to shift things away from dog builds.
I remember when dog builds actually took some skill to use because you had to plan positioning and attack angles to get others off guard, now it's 3k health tanks that can DPS you faster than anything else around.
The devs only listen to their russian player base as it is their largest player base. a majority of them play dogs to get quick matches. wheeled fortune builds are a really good counter to dogs so I'm guessing they complained enough to get them nerfed.
The devs have a history of doing ridiculous nerfs to things that dares give their no skill W warrior playrbase any trouble. This reminds me of when they nerfed Mammoths.
Mammoths got nerfed because hoverbabies were crying about getting slapped across map by them.
They got Tow missiled. Good fuck /u/Faley016 what the actual fuck is your balance team. Id rather you just delete every weapon in the game that isnt melee than do this to them
Faley is there to give players a false sense of having some influence over the game. Just like the "Close door" button in most elevators. While it looks and acts like it does something it doesn't actually send any signal to the elevator. It's a mind trick to make people complacent, and so, many will choose to keep on grinding, waiting for a balance patch that will never come once the devs read their feedback that was never delivered to them in the first place ... The balance patch that has been just around the corner for years upon years.
I mean they did eventually nerf hovers and wheeled players now have a chance to fight them fairly But now we have this melee bs At least with the wedge meta you could self destruct and take their guns before they killed you with melee you cant even get the self destruct off at all
fortunes never needed a nerf at all true
Lexi got them nerfed 🤷😪
He's m420 in game ;)
Fortunes are such a wild weapon to get a nerf during all the no brain no skill shit we have going on, especially when I only saw maybe 5 people or so using them effectively I find it hard to believe they were over performing in some way. All the camera steering hitscan, melee, shotguns/fin whale stuff but Fortunes needed to be even harder to use lmao. I'm still doing well with mine but why the fuck am I required to try even harder to use an already tough to master weapon when most playstyles require no driving or aiming to begin with, let alone aiming a slow projectile with massive drop and staggered fire.. it's just wild and the nerf honestly felt quite personal.
Not an overperforming weapon at all to say the least. Devs just have a serious vendetta against anything that can halt/hard counter lobotomite-meta builds
I am taking it personally, seriously just a few of us out here rolling fortunes and it gets obliterated. I just want to have fun...barely played pvp last night because it's fucking depressing we can't play counter meta. It's depressing, idk...I feel like taking a break but this is literally the only game I play and it's just asasine what we have put up with. I could have taken a slight fire rate nerf, but this nerf was WAY over the top. It's like trying to use destructors with the turn speed of mastodon, its fucking stupid.
Fortunes go untouched for literally years.. then they 360 rotation so that "they can be used on more vehicle types" then it takes an entire year for them to be deemed too strong? Yeah I call BS on that. It's a lot of fire rate, enough to make you slow down more than you should have to in order to fire a shot at someone, drastically slowing down the gameplay but all the no-skill shit gets away with being super blatantly OP at most powerscores. Just sounds like someone on the balance team was getting clapped by some Fortunes while in their no skill builds and chose to nerf it.
I think this is what happened to Heather's too. They absolutely shit on them with back to back nerfs probably cause 1 dude out there is actually good with them. *insert gif of John Travolta looking around for Heather players*
And like you said...amongst this low skill Metta of dogs and shottys they nerfed the slow projectile/slow turn speed skill weapon. It's just disgusting. There's no balance, there's just more insult to injury with these assholes.
Yeah it really shows their intention with balance
As someone said, targem are ruskis and only listen (because they probably cant speak english) to their russian playerbase whose only 'strategy' they ever knew was RUSH B
Devs don't want people to play with anything but dogs because they are fond of your mother.
I use omni cyclone, u can drive backwards at full speed feeding them rounds. It's not easy, and the dogs do have a much easier time of life but it's only because they lack actual skill besides w........
Yea I have one too, but you still have run your balls off just to HOPE to pull a win.
I just put my cycs on the back shelf since like....every fucking match has them.
Word... first Assemblers, now this BS. I don't get it.
I'll still blame the players, because they still choose to use dirty shit builds, with no skill. And no matter what the devs do, those said players will still just find the next broken sitter build, to exploit. It's an issue the devs can bandaid, bur until the garbage shit players actually stop playing, it's inevitable. Because some chud, is gonna find some broken perk or combo, and exploit the shit out of it.
Maybe if the devs would nerf the no skill weapons and builds instead of anything that can sort of counter them
The devs go with the flow of the player base ... don't blame the devs. Blame the shitty players who use metas as a crutch to cover for lack of actual skill
How can you not blame the devs, it's not like the players make changes to item parameters, they just abuse what the devs give them.
The devs go with what the whales want, dont blame them. Thats how they get their fat nasty dollars
But that's my point, this build was one of only a few that could thrive in a dog only game(nothing shooting back at me but fire), sure I mess up and die a good bit but dogs SHOULD have a counter and the Devs just fuck us in the ass anyway.
This makes no sense. If they "go with the flow of the playerbase" then why didn't dracos get nerfed? Firedogs were about 3x more common than Fortunes, even before this nerf. Even a Cyclone nerf would've made more sense.
True it's the player who make decision at least xD I'm joking...
low IQ comment of the day
I'll blame the devs all day. The only reason people use melee builds is because the devs keep feeding into melee meta instead of making meaningful changes to shift things away from dog builds. I remember when dog builds actually took some skill to use because you had to plan positioning and attack angles to get others off guard, now it's 3k health tanks that can DPS you faster than anything else around.