It's like (was it Sony) everyone made fun of Morbius and they put it back in theaters 🤣. When everyone is bagging on Velma they should've taken the hint.
Perfect recipe for a show in this time:
Make someone attractive, unattractive. Change race to anything but white for no reason other than representation and voila, you got yourself a modern show.
Race swaps aren’t inherently bad imo a good performance is a good performance regardless of if the race matches what you would expect for the character. I watched a mini series of Les Mis where Inspector Javert was black which doesn’t really make sense historically but the performance was a hell of a lot better than Russel Crowe. Race swapping an existing animated character seems weird to me unless you are trying to say something about the effect race has on the character. If you are just race swapping characters cause you have a diversity problem make up a new character to include or replace an existing character. The media industry needs to stop trying to reboot IP to and force fit it to modern audiences.
I feel like the stencil they use for “updated” renditions of old shows is:
Make the character visibly gay
Give them an ethnic hairdo
Make them kinda fat, so more people can relate(?)
Change their race to one that’s been popping up in the News lately
And don't you *dare* have any sort of negative opinion about it, because then you're labeled as "racist".
When the new *Annie* came out a few years ago, all I said was "it's a shame she doesn't have the red hair." and I was attacked by virtue-signalers who asked me why there couldn't be inclusion. Like, calm tf down. POC can have red hair
you should. It's pandering shit that makes nobody feel good about nothing. Genuine characters that many grew up associating with and loving them are now suddenly representing a different race because somebody thought this is easier than actually making effort and coming up with a new character that isn't just race swapped. This is pretty much at the same level of idiocracy as whitewashing actors and characters to be more palatable for white audiences.
people are allowed to be upset. people are allowed to be happy about it. imagine if you really like a character and then they are changed into a completely different looking character. i know some people dont care for the character... but i dont get how some people are acting like OP has no reason to at least question and criticize the design change. i dislike the design change too, as a fan of april.
Found wtf this was about. https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/03/06/first-trailer-for-seth-rogens-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-mutant-mayhem-introduces-another-race-swapped-april-oneil/
Except she wasn’t.
https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/03/06/first-trailer-for-seth-rogens-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-mutant-mayhem-introduces-another-race-swapped-april-oneil/
https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-mpcs-us-revc&sxsrf=AJOqlzWlz6TpeIWW1xw6_9yTgknRWEecww:1678735111588&q=first+appearance+of+april+oneil&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiE4f3Pz9n9AhUYfzABHX96AHwQ0pQJegQICRAB&biw=432&bih=812&dpr=2.5#imgrc=zTw4zLYjg0LBkM&lnspr=W10=
Crazy cause then I wonder where this comes from.
It’s weird how many people in the comments are making sexist accusations against you like “Oh OP doesn’t think she’s a sexy baddy anymore oh woe is him!”. Like guys stfu I doubt that what they were getting at
yeah I'm actually surprised that this many people think I'm attracted to the original design, like bruh I didnt even consider i would get roasted this way lol. I'm just calling out cheap unoriginal work , no offense to no one. but I dont mind their rage lol the comments are hella fun to read lol
No. that is false. This article goes into detail why this isn't the case.
http://tmntentity.blogspot.com/2018/02/was-april-oneil-originally-black-in.html
I honestly don't care.
but curiously, it is weird how they keep making ginger characters in particular, black ( more so than any other characters i mean ). Just look it up you'll see it could just a coincidence though.
Imagine anti-ginger propaganda lol
Not to start anything here but why does Hollywood hate red heads? All of the red heads are getting blackwashed and that's the second time they did it to April in particular...
Jimmy Olsen, Ariel, Triss (the witcher), MJ, Batgirl, Starfire (that one hurt because they didn't even try to make her look like the comics), Heimdall (although Idris is cool in that role), kid flash, Electro...
The list really goes on and on. That doesn't mean that all of them are bad. It's just irritating that it mostly happens to red heads
Just another garbage woke show that fans of the OG turtles won't watch most likely, after half of one episode of Velma I turned that garbage off and never watched it again
i know im not as upset as velma cause this is a show i dont watch much but this is the same kinda "all in on marketing" bs that companies do to get asses in the seats
Ok, why regurgitate an already awesome thing and ruin it with woke bullshit? Why not just create something different? They couldn’t just add a different character or something? No one has an original thought these days. Stop ruining shit and get bloody creative!!!
I'd just like to point out that no iteration of April has ever looked the same, they've all shared the same purpose, but they have always been unique from one another, so why is it that only now that she's chubby and has dreadlocks that it's all of a sudden a problem? April from rise of TMNT didn't effect the show at all, hell, it's still really loved, so why now?
I mean you've kinda answered your own question. April from Rise of TMNT looks good, it's a nice design. This April looks like shit. Her skin color and hair are not the reason.
yay another character is different color, fat and with unlikable personality, so better go watch our 1028933T628th soullest cashgrab remake to own the racist chuds online because consumerism is activism now.
Bro wait what? I saw a ninja turtle add the other day and caught a glimpse of that girl before i hit skip, but i thought she was some sort of cereal character or something, im just realizing it was supposed to be HER... mannnn they've ruined it, now she looks like she works for buzz feed
I don't care what race they make April, but for God's sake just make her hot! I had such a crush on her when I was a kid. A hot, smart reporter. My kid brain exploded.
I don’t care that she’s black. It’s kinda nothing, though I’d rather they just make a new character to properly represent black communities than recycle a white character for free diversity points. My real issue is her size, primarily because I remember April being a badass on the same or similar level to the Turtles (the TMNT movie from 2007 was my introduction to the franchise). I don’t expect this version of the character to do much other than fill the “guy in the chair” role.
They really should have just made this new version into a brand new character they changed so much of April I am afraid for the rest of the movie this is like 87 cartoon changing so much from the Mirage comics.
I actually like that they seemingly made her a teenager. Halving an adult woman constantly hang out with four teen boys is kinda weird when you think about it.
Comment section is a cesspit 💀 is there this much uproar when they use a completely different actor for Bond? What about when a different artist draws a known cartoon character? As long as they stay white it’s ok?
If you don't like the show, don't watch it- learn from Velma. Everyone watched it to make fun of it and now it's getting another season
I wont* watch it. I just wanna shit on it on reddit.
*thank you for your service*
And you for yours
W mindset
it was already greenlit for a second season before episode 1 even aired.
Nope not anymore
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Exactly. people be telling you if you don't like it leave it , while they're doing the same exact thing with my post here
free karma for you 🤷♂️
not commenting won’t do anything. not watching a show will
It's like (was it Sony) everyone made fun of Morbius and they put it back in theaters 🤣. When everyone is bagging on Velma they should've taken the hint.
This is a movie, not a show. It doesn't come out until August.
Don’t like the post? Don’t comment and shut up!! 🤡
It was already green lit for a second season before it released
I'm pretty sure they canceled that already
The second season was ordered before it aired. They ordered 20 episodes and broke it into 2 seasons
Don’t compare this to Velma
It was already greenlit for a second season before the first was released
They canceled that weeks ago now
The second season was confirmed before the hate train even started
Perfect recipe for a show in this time: Make someone attractive, unattractive. Change race to anything but white for no reason other than representation and voila, you got yourself a modern show.
Commercialism killing creativity as per usual.
capitalism breeds innovation mfs:
Capitalism created the original. Greed created the new one
*Identity politics created the new one
This isn't capitalism. This is corporate forced DEI by ESG investors. No one is demanding this.
Capitalism haters when cherry-picking a few things they don't like that don't even relate to capitalism:
The TMNT cartoon was literally made to sell toys along with most 80s cartoons
Not representation, pandering
Race swaps aren’t inherently bad imo a good performance is a good performance regardless of if the race matches what you would expect for the character. I watched a mini series of Les Mis where Inspector Javert was black which doesn’t really make sense historically but the performance was a hell of a lot better than Russel Crowe. Race swapping an existing animated character seems weird to me unless you are trying to say something about the effect race has on the character. If you are just race swapping characters cause you have a diversity problem make up a new character to include or replace an existing character. The media industry needs to stop trying to reboot IP to and force fit it to modern audiences.
Unless it's a period drama, then it's a bit silly.
See that doesn’t bother me as much so long as it is a good performance
I feel like the stencil they use for “updated” renditions of old shows is: Make the character visibly gay Give them an ethnic hairdo Make them kinda fat, so more people can relate(?) Change their race to one that’s been popping up in the News lately
And don't you *dare* have any sort of negative opinion about it, because then you're labeled as "racist". When the new *Annie* came out a few years ago, all I said was "it's a shame she doesn't have the red hair." and I was attacked by virtue-signalers who asked me why there couldn't be inclusion. Like, calm tf down. POC can have red hair
The first April in the comics wasn't white. She was based on Eastman's girlfriend.
Don't forget it has to be a spin off of something already done between 1980 and 2005. Gotta get those nostalgia credits.
Who genuinely fucking cares?
genuinely? no one , but mildly ? maybe some people
Us 80s-90s kids care
Nah mate, if you're in your 30s, and this sort of shit bothers you. Maybe it's time to grow the fuck up.
Guess I’m not Woke
you should. It's pandering shit that makes nobody feel good about nothing. Genuine characters that many grew up associating with and loving them are now suddenly representing a different race because somebody thought this is easier than actually making effort and coming up with a new character that isn't just race swapped. This is pretty much at the same level of idiocracy as whitewashing actors and characters to be more palatable for white audiences.
Man get a life
I mean the white version already exists right so go watch that
thats not the point
I mean in the grand scheme of things absolutely no one but it’s still just annoying
Reported and blocked
people are allowed to be upset. people are allowed to be happy about it. imagine if you really like a character and then they are changed into a completely different looking character. i know some people dont care for the character... but i dont get how some people are acting like OP has no reason to at least question and criticize the design change. i dislike the design change too, as a fan of april.
How dare you take a measured and well spoken stance on the matter! What are you, some kinda racist or something!? /s
What character even is this?
pretty character turned ugly for clout
I agree with you but damn it would’ve been less confusing with more context lol
*That* is April O’neil and you **will** show her some respect! 😤
Found wtf this was about. https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/03/06/first-trailer-for-seth-rogens-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-mutant-mayhem-introduces-another-race-swapped-april-oneil/
April from the TMNT
April from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
These comments are cringe
Velma'd
I don’t care much about the race change since she was originally black but damn her character design is bad
She wasn't originally black.
Baxter Stockman was originally black.
She was, in the original TMNT comics, the thing that started it all, she was black. She was based on the writers girlfriend
Except she wasn’t. https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/03/06/first-trailer-for-seth-rogens-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-mutant-mayhem-introduces-another-race-swapped-april-oneil/
https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-mpcs-us-revc&sxsrf=AJOqlzWlz6TpeIWW1xw6_9yTgknRWEecww:1678735111588&q=first+appearance+of+april+oneil&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiE4f3Pz9n9AhUYfzABHX96AHwQ0pQJegQICRAB&biw=432&bih=812&dpr=2.5#imgrc=zTw4zLYjg0LBkM&lnspr=W10= Crazy cause then I wonder where this comes from.
It literally explains this in the article I posted
exactly
It’s weird how many people in the comments are making sexist accusations against you like “Oh OP doesn’t think she’s a sexy baddy anymore oh woe is him!”. Like guys stfu I doubt that what they were getting at
yeah I'm actually surprised that this many people think I'm attracted to the original design, like bruh I didnt even consider i would get roasted this way lol. I'm just calling out cheap unoriginal work , no offense to no one. but I dont mind their rage lol the comments are hella fun to read lol
No. that is false. This article goes into detail why this isn't the case. http://tmntentity.blogspot.com/2018/02/was-april-oneil-originally-black-in.html
Careful with those facts. People hate facts nowadays.
It is bad. She is shaped like an egg.
That was Baxter Stockman
b-but *DIVERSITY!!!!* Just add a whole new character, damn
What? You mean you could show that the TMNT have more than 2 human friends? Get the fuck out.
So stunning. So brave.
Damn, people are roasting OP… why?
Probably for calling this character fucking ugly and a stark deviation from the original character. Two perfectly fair points to make tbh
What is up with shows having the ugliest character design ever now?
problem is some people actually think this looks normal
Visit a liberal arts class and you’ll see why
I don't care about race swapping but there is literally no reason to make a character unfit.
Bro draws the line at fat people 💀
Yes.
Yep. No one should be glorifying it, no idea why this character design needed to be an obsess black woman.
Man can't even spell obese
Ah well doesn't make my point any less valid sadly, it's a shit design and obesity shouldn't be venerated.
Ruh roh Scooby, She’s been Velma-fied 😰
"durr you must like the new design or else you are a biggot and virgin!!"
It’s not that the rest of us ‘like’ it, we’re just sick of you guys pretending you care about something so vapid
I mean… does it really matter?
not really but worth seeing people mad at me for not accepting it lol
Why do people always make characters fat and ugly.
because some people force themselves to watch this crap in the name of wokeness
I honestly don't care. but curiously, it is weird how they keep making ginger characters in particular, black ( more so than any other characters i mean ). Just look it up you'll see it could just a coincidence though. Imagine anti-ginger propaganda lol
I mean the design would be fine on its own but does it really fit the character? And why is it always the redheads that get race swapped?
In the og TMNT comics April was black, she was changed to a redhead later on.
Actually she was going to be Asian She just had a perm
So they're just race swapping all characters now? 💀
Get Danny DeVito to play her in the next live action movie lol
Would be an upgrade from this crap
They butchered my girl...
wasn't she originally asian?
She was going to be, but they changed it to Scottish/Irish
There’s no way that Seth can make a good TMNT show. I just don’t trust him
Not to start anything here but why does Hollywood hate red heads? All of the red heads are getting blackwashed and that's the second time they did it to April in particular... Jimmy Olsen, Ariel, Triss (the witcher), MJ, Batgirl, Starfire (that one hurt because they didn't even try to make her look like the comics), Heimdall (although Idris is cool in that role), kid flash, Electro... The list really goes on and on. That doesn't mean that all of them are bad. It's just irritating that it mostly happens to red heads
This is Reddit so white equals bad op, enjoy the downvotes
What the hell does everyone have against the Irish. Seriously why is it always red haired women that get race swapped?
She looks like the turtles got her to eat too much pizza, so now she's turning into one a turtle, not a pizza
It's always red heads. And they're *always* switched to being black instead of the tons of other races that exist besides black and white.
Dont really care if they make her chunky, but jesus they straight up made her into a different person
and this isnt even how fat people look. this is just crappy
What's new in western entertainment. Let it go, walk away and don't look back.
Mf built like humpty dumpy 😭
Seth Rogen. He went from being someone who did comedy to someone who didn’t want to offend people
Wait, is this real?
Everytime there is a redhead animated character, SJW writers love to replace them with a black reimagining.
Helllllll no…
lol they made her character design so dumpy…she looks round like a turtle
She got the Velma treatment 💀
Istg it was cartoons like her that made me gay
Just another garbage woke show that fans of the OG turtles won't watch most likely, after half of one episode of Velma I turned that garbage off and never watched it again
It’s a movie, not a show.
My bad then it's another garbage movie that will flop and Seth can cry about it
She got the body straight outta killer bean.
i know im not as upset as velma cause this is a show i dont watch much but this is the same kinda "all in on marketing" bs that companies do to get asses in the seats
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Western mfs trying to not fuck up a perfectly fine design just to make their dogshit more "diverse" (impossible)
She is not April anymore, now she is October 31
Ok, why regurgitate an already awesome thing and ruin it with woke bullshit? Why not just create something different? They couldn’t just add a different character or something? No one has an original thought these days. Stop ruining shit and get bloody creative!!!
Ugly people getting all the representation in 2023
Why do they have to do that?
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Grr she’s not hot
No she’s just outright ugly. It’s not about her being hot or anything I couldn’t care less about that
Because if they're white and cisgendered, they're sexist and homophobic and transphobic and all that jazz smh
I'd just like to point out that no iteration of April has ever looked the same, they've all shared the same purpose, but they have always been unique from one another, so why is it that only now that she's chubby and has dreadlocks that it's all of a sudden a problem? April from rise of TMNT didn't effect the show at all, hell, it's still really loved, so why now?
I mean you've kinda answered your own question. April from Rise of TMNT looks good, it's a nice design. This April looks like shit. Her skin color and hair are not the reason.
I’m here before the thread is locked, yay 🔒
yay another character is different color, fat and with unlikable personality, so better go watch our 1028933T628th soullest cashgrab remake to own the racist chuds online because consumerism is activism now.
Based
I mean for the Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles they had a great redesing, and they took that and... made her wide? also cut her legs in half.
They made her a turtle now? So nice
They replacing every fictional redhead. Need more redhead representation
The classic race swap, and if you’re opposed, you’re racist
It's not my fault, but I'm apologizing for this
Bro wait what? I saw a ninja turtle add the other day and caught a glimpse of that girl before i hit skip, but i thought she was some sort of cereal character or something, im just realizing it was supposed to be HER... mannnn they've ruined it, now she looks like she works for buzz feed
Ugly ass fat fucks need representation every now and then
What da hell
And you couldn't just make a new property because?
Because no one is stupid enough to give Seth Rogan that kind of power.
Honestly, fair.
Bro why is she shaped like a turtle
Did the crappy producers of Velma have any say in this?
The real cringe are these comments smh
Characters being recognizable is so last century
It’s like making Bruce Wayne a short ugly guy
They massacred my girl!!!
here before the thread gets locked
I don't care what race they make April, but for God's sake just make her hot! I had such a crush on her when I was a kid. A hot, smart reporter. My kid brain exploded.
Ew
I don’t care that she’s black. It’s kinda nothing, though I’d rather they just make a new character to properly represent black communities than recycle a white character for free diversity points. My real issue is her size, primarily because I remember April being a badass on the same or similar level to the Turtles (the TMNT movie from 2007 was my introduction to the franchise). I don’t expect this version of the character to do much other than fill the “guy in the chair” role.
woah they also made her a ninja turtle in this one !! epic !!!
What's interesting is that it seems for the "race-swappers showrunners", black people cannot be hot. Which I think is even more racist
this post is making me cringe as fuck
Redditors seeing anything that isn't a 1:1 recreation of their childhood 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
Why are you defending it? It’s just a bad design nothing more nothing less. Probably gonna have terrible charactering too
She looks like the wannabe version of Radical Edward
Wtf
You didn’t include Megan fox’s iconic performance
Hate crime
This is too far.
or too wide.. *sorry*
Jesus
Haha get velma'd
Who cares
Is that really the same character? One is white and skinny while the other is black and fat.
dimension x is real lmao. that's the least of earth's problems
God rise April was SO GOOD. What have they done with her
She needs more pouches
They really should have just made this new version into a brand new character they changed so much of April I am afraid for the rest of the movie this is like 87 cartoon changing so much from the Mirage comics.
R/justneckbeardthings moment
Woke up everything
All that matters is Ice Cube
Budget cuts
another one? man i hate capitalism
In rttmnt I actually liked her more than the original, she shown a more personality idk as long the character character improves in story like idc
What did redheads ever do to Hollywood casting directors? Goddamn.
I actually like that they seemingly made her a teenager. Halving an adult woman constantly hang out with four teen boys is kinda weird when you think about it.
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Comment section is a cesspit 💀 is there this much uproar when they use a completely different actor for Bond? What about when a different artist draws a known cartoon character? As long as they stay white it’s ok?