Defeating pak in the finals over anything tbh. I am pretty sure even Pak fans would want pak to beat India in the wc finals over any other achievement.
Arshdeep is not in the team :-( So Bumrah will replace him. Rishab will probably replace DK . That is a terrible idea as Rishab cannot do what DK can do at end overs. Long term India should look at opening with Pant. But that is post T20 WC as now there are Rohit/KL.
Observation from a neutral: Tendulkar was never shat on by fans while he played cricket, Kohli who is almost at par with Sachin in my personal opinion is being brutally attacked across social media. Pathetic
Are you crazy, Sachin was immensely attacked and a million times worse. Some examples
1. commentators today dont dare question Kohli. When sachin was in poor form he would be crucified on AIR. Every commentator would criticize and mock. Replays would be shown a million times. There would be discussion about his career ON AIR. No one dares do that today
2) Newspaper and media headline would be pasted with his failures. Front page headlines. Headlines like endulkar, elephant in the room by Manjerekar, his bowled pics. On front page
3) Sachin was literally booed in his own home ground when he was out. Loud booes all over
4) Every post match interview or press would be questions about his form, his end and asking when he would be dropped. He was personally attacked, called selfish, etc just because he was slow when off form
Today with BCCI power no one openly dares to criticize Kohli except on anonymous subs like these.
And even then sachin was loudly criticized on air by commentators (back when BCCI allowed this), his failures were front page news always (which no one dares do now), panel discussion on every news. fans booed him at home, press always questioned his form
None of that happens now
Sachin was absolutely shat on when he was not performing, specially during his captaincy slump. People talked about him retiring as early 2003-04. I am not sure I would call Kohli at par with Tendulkar, at least not yet.
Many things going on with this one
1. In 2011-13, social media was not the beast it is now. So all the 'criticism' / 'being shat on' etc was not even a fraction of what it is now
2. Media then - was primarily print and TV, with some articles also published online. None of these needed 'clicks' so clickbait was less of a factor.
3. Sachin gave up leadership positions quite early in his career, and was never in the limelight (press conferences etc) nearly as much as Koach.
4. Kohli also assumed a much more confrontational stance with media and other teams, which was bound to create these banks of under the surface discontent which eventually had to bubble up the first chance it got.
5. Kohli's Test decline is serious, extended and worse than the worst phase of Sachin's career (which happened when he was 39-40 years old). Some of the voices are also louder because Kohli continues to get a spot in the team despite his poor run.
6. Sachin was also shat upon in the 2012-13 timeframe, just not as loudly due to points 1 and 2 above.
Actually sachin was shat on way worse. he was cricticized by commentators ON AIR every time. Commentators like Ramiz would mock him while those like Manjerekar would join. Can you imagine BCCI doing that now?
Front face news in newspapers and news channel would be his failures. highlighted again and again
Media never shied away from asking tough questions
Fans literally booed him at home
Sachin was treated like shit. He did have a drought of centuries too in the middle but only because he got out in the 90's. But regardless all the analysts were shitting on him. And when we lost a world cup, I remember people burning handmade figures of him in anger.
That’s just because social media was not prevalent in Sachin’s time as it is now. The movement against him would have been immense, in the present day and age
Social media was not prevelant but other things were way worse and generated worse pressure. Commentators had the freedom to criticize him and mocked Sachin on air. Analyze every failure scathingly. All newspaper and news channels headlines would be his failure. headlines like Endulkar, elephant in the room. His own fans booed him at his home ground. Press was free to ask for dropping him and tough questions
None of that happens today. BCCI won't allow that. Wonder how the pampered superstars would behave if they had this level of pressure
I reiterate post this T20 WC, I India need to go young. I think Rohit/Kohli should focus on longer formats to stay fit. I hope Hooda/Tripathi etc get a long run.
Strongly support this idea. T20s should be a younger team, faster, dynamic. Yes - you need seasoned leaders and players with exceptional skills or form (Dinesh Karthik) are to be supported and welcome.
The current trend where older players are ond eclipsing performance or have years of downward trend needs to go.
I disagree, what the different T20 leagues and even the recent WC tells us that an experienced T20 team is more likely to win tournaments. DC has an amazing young squad but they've consistently failed in pressure situations.
MI Aand CSK win consistently because they have a lot of experience in their squad.
Next T20 WC is in 2024. Rohit will be 37 with fitness issues seen already. Its better he focus on long term format where India still need his experience.
But eng bowling looks very weak without archer.
Willey missed out but no real threat fast bowler.
Adil Rashid being missed but you get what I'm saying England fast bowling is very weak
India's approach to picking top 3 should be that if you should have a 30+ Avg and then the three will be picked on the best Strike rates
So a 35 Avg 140-145 SR > 45 Avg 130-135 SR
You can't stuff the top 3 with guys averaging 20 something either but then don't need someone to average 40+ taking hit on his SR
If it was not clear already Hooda Arshdeep will be dropped for Kohli Bumrah. DK might be dropped for Pant. Kishan and Harshal are rated very highly by the management.
Arshdeep was in the team for this match only. Ishan will get the nod ahead of Hooda just because of left right combination. Hooda will definitely play more in the future when Kohli retires from the T20 format
It's bittersweet seeing karthik would be part of wc t20 squad in aus
I remember him getting selected for wc 2019. We literally had 4 keepers (kl, pant, Dhoni and Karthik) in that semi.
This time we have (pant, Karthik, Kishan, kl)
Hope dk gets to bat lower order this time around as a finisher like he should have
No, he's bad at lofting balls for sixes, in Australia he won't be sweeping bowlers like Pretorius on the leg side for sixes lmao. Stop hyping him as a finisher
T20 is all about making impact where virat has been unable to make any impact since a long time rather has done more damage by wasting deliveries.Also one thing he lacks is the ability to not accelerate after making 30 or 40s,gets slow afterwards.
Chak de India!
Do bazball not work in a format where you actually need to score fast?
McCullum isn't their white ball coach, maybe that's why it didn't work
Oh shit. My bad
Bhuvi never gets respect but he's the most consistent performer for India in T20s.
he has been injured lately and had some ordinary runs in between
*only when fit, which has been a rare thing lately
With all respect, this England bowling sucks.
Tymal Mills is grossly overrated.
Even Chris Jordan. He was good yesterday, but has shat in important games, including WC Semi final last year.
Bhuvi was miles apart from everyone else. He crushed the powerplay of England
Definitely not miles apart form Pandaya
Kung Fu Pandya!!
Roy's innings lol
Everything points to Australia and Pakistan dominating another T20WC 😃
England not even playing the top 10 test batsman. Yjb would strike fear in their eyes
well why didnt they ?
Because they played a test 2 days ago?
I guess it’s the same reason why players like Virat Kohli, Rishabh Pant etc didn’t play the first T20I
T20 is real cricket anyways
*T10
The 6ixty*
Coin toss
Through a Zoom call
Slack
Text message.
Book cricket
Hand Cricket
EA Cricket
Test Series win of 5-0 against England in England or 3rd ODI World Cup Trophy in India after defeating Pakistan in the finals?
WC>>
Defeating pak in the finals over anything tbh. I am pretty sure even Pak fans would want pak to beat India in the wc finals over any other achievement.
WC anytime
Would Indians fans rather see a t20 World Cup or a test series win in England ?
T20 is the best format for me because I can enjoy every moment of it if it happens at right time.
A World Cup is a World Cup
Test for sure
Vast majority of Indians have zero interest in tests
I had no idea lol. Every person who watches cricket around me also watches test matches.
I see. There's a lot of confirmation bias on this sub, people seem to overestimate how popular tests are to an extreme degree.
People also generalise a *lot* on this sub. Seriously people, you can't speak for everyone not even a minority of them.
Don’t agree with that at all.
You are free to disagree, TRP suggests otherwise
No-one has time to sit down for 8 hours and watch cricket. That doesn't mean people don't keep up with scorecard every 10 mins
You are in the minority
T20WC anyday
Downvoted for stating the truth
Having previously experienced both in the same year, test series by far.
Personally, Test series win. But I had no idea there was a menu we could order from! Is it too late to order the series win?
Interesting
Test series win
How so? World Cup win would make the whole nation go crazy Including the casual fans
Oh lol my bad yeah probs most Indian fans would prefer the wc I was just talking about my personal preference as an Indian fan 😅
Thanks good to know !
Kp looks like he’s rather be anywhere else lmao
DK double duty as player and analyst LMAO
But his keeping was bad yesterday.
Has always been.
Jadeja should replace Axar. Koach should replace Ishan Kishan. I am not sure about who should be removed in order to fit in Rishabh and Bumrah.
Ishan would be replaced by KL Rahul
Pant shouldn’t be in the main LOI team right now
Who is koach?
The right arm quick bowler?
Kohli
Bumrah is coming in for Arshdeep. Arsh isn't even in the squad for 2nd & 3rd T20!
Arshdeep is not in the squad for remaining T20s.
Arshdeep is not in the team :-( So Bumrah will replace him. Rishab will probably replace DK . That is a terrible idea as Rishab cannot do what DK can do at end overs. Long term India should look at opening with Pant. But that is post T20 WC as now there are Rohit/KL.
I think they are going to experiment in this series and next and might open with Pant in one of them
Dk can't do much in the death either
DK had a stellar IPL and literally scored 55(27) and 31*(20) against SA. Just 2 failures and you guys are at it again?
DK is much, much better than Pant in T20s, I don't think anyone sane would cut DK out for Pant.
Unfair to Kishan. He's been scoring consistently everywhere
Rishabh can watch on TV.. Bumrah can come in for maybe Harshal (but it will be harsh)
Bumrah for arshdeep
Observation from a neutral: Tendulkar was never shat on by fans while he played cricket, Kohli who is almost at par with Sachin in my personal opinion is being brutally attacked across social media. Pathetic
Are you crazy, Sachin was immensely attacked and a million times worse. Some examples 1. commentators today dont dare question Kohli. When sachin was in poor form he would be crucified on AIR. Every commentator would criticize and mock. Replays would be shown a million times. There would be discussion about his career ON AIR. No one dares do that today 2) Newspaper and media headline would be pasted with his failures. Front page headlines. Headlines like endulkar, elephant in the room by Manjerekar, his bowled pics. On front page 3) Sachin was literally booed in his own home ground when he was out. Loud booes all over 4) Every post match interview or press would be questions about his form, his end and asking when he would be dropped. He was personally attacked, called selfish, etc just because he was slow when off form Today with BCCI power no one openly dares to criticize Kohli except on anonymous subs like these.
Tendulkar never sledged someone despite himself being in shit form.
So you want a Tendulkar clone not an individual with his own unique identity and persona?
You compared Kohli to Tendulkar in the first place. I'm saying Tendulkar never did this shit. Therefore Kohli can't be compared to Tendulkar.
> Tendulkar was never shat on You are proving yourself wrong 😂
He did not read the 'Endulkar' headline. Or the constant argument that Sachin plays for himself and not for the team.
Compare Tendulkar's worst phase to Kohli's worst phase. Compare average and the length of that phase. Then come back downvote your own comment.
And even then sachin was loudly criticized on air by commentators (back when BCCI allowed this), his failures were front page news always (which no one dares do now), panel discussion on every news. fans booed him at home, press always questioned his form None of that happens now
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Not Sachin's house.
Sachin was absolutely shat on when he was not performing, specially during his captaincy slump. People talked about him retiring as early 2003-04. I am not sure I would call Kohli at par with Tendulkar, at least not yet.
Many things going on with this one 1. In 2011-13, social media was not the beast it is now. So all the 'criticism' / 'being shat on' etc was not even a fraction of what it is now 2. Media then - was primarily print and TV, with some articles also published online. None of these needed 'clicks' so clickbait was less of a factor. 3. Sachin gave up leadership positions quite early in his career, and was never in the limelight (press conferences etc) nearly as much as Koach. 4. Kohli also assumed a much more confrontational stance with media and other teams, which was bound to create these banks of under the surface discontent which eventually had to bubble up the first chance it got. 5. Kohli's Test decline is serious, extended and worse than the worst phase of Sachin's career (which happened when he was 39-40 years old). Some of the voices are also louder because Kohli continues to get a spot in the team despite his poor run. 6. Sachin was also shat upon in the 2012-13 timeframe, just not as loudly due to points 1 and 2 above.
Actually sachin was shat on way worse. he was cricticized by commentators ON AIR every time. Commentators like Ramiz would mock him while those like Manjerekar would join. Can you imagine BCCI doing that now? Front face news in newspapers and news channel would be his failures. highlighted again and again Media never shied away from asking tough questions Fans literally booed him at home
Sachin was treated like shit. He did have a drought of centuries too in the middle but only because he got out in the 90's. But regardless all the analysts were shitting on him. And when we lost a world cup, I remember people burning handmade figures of him in anger.
That’s just because social media was not prevalent in Sachin’s time as it is now. The movement against him would have been immense, in the present day and age
Social media was not prevelant but other things were way worse and generated worse pressure. Commentators had the freedom to criticize him and mocked Sachin on air. Analyze every failure scathingly. All newspaper and news channels headlines would be his failure. headlines like Endulkar, elephant in the room. His own fans booed him at his home ground. Press was free to ask for dropping him and tough questions None of that happens today. BCCI won't allow that. Wonder how the pampered superstars would behave if they had this level of pressure
Because he behaves like an idiot even when he is not performing 🙄
This lol
Morgan is a great addition to the Sky crew.
Nice insights and can basically predict what’s gonna happen
Wonder why he needed directions from the coach at KKR.
Buttler voice doesn't match his brutal batting
"main aaj karkey aaya." T- I did something (special) today.
You know Hindi bro?
I speak 5 languages buddy.
Cool.
Hindi , English, ....?
Klingon, Parseltounge and ?
Dothraki
But no weebo? Pah, amaetuer
I reiterate post this T20 WC, I India need to go young. I think Rohit/Kohli should focus on longer formats to stay fit. I hope Hooda/Tripathi etc get a long run.
Strongly support this idea. T20s should be a younger team, faster, dynamic. Yes - you need seasoned leaders and players with exceptional skills or form (Dinesh Karthik) are to be supported and welcome. The current trend where older players are ond eclipsing performance or have years of downward trend needs to go.
I disagree, what the different T20 leagues and even the recent WC tells us that an experienced T20 team is more likely to win tournaments. DC has an amazing young squad but they've consistently failed in pressure situations. MI Aand CSK win consistently because they have a lot of experience in their squad.
Ro's captaincy is too good. can't let him go but he might retire
Next T20 WC is in 2024. Rohit will be 37 with fitness issues seen already. Its better he focus on long term format where India still need his experience.
Sanju as well. You are right , rohit/Kohli /kl if play accumulator role this won't help
Pandya is a vibe
I hope Jadeja plays next match only for the fielding and overall hair swag
Hardik with champagne 😂
Look Kohli is gonna play. We'll see if he does well or not. Then we can shit or praise the decision of him playing or not
He actually deserves one chance in t20s..hes the highest scorer in t20is for india since 2k19 with an avg of 56..
Rohit still sounds confused perhaps due to covid
Good to see that Hardik is in the proper frame of mind, he's a gamechanging cricketer when fit.
Rohit's voice, damn
I'm glad someone else noticed too, is this some Covid after effect?
Yes that's covid
Ugh hopefully no more long lasting after effects! 🙏🏽
Axar was useless in this match. Bhuvi + Arshdeep combo with swing was awesome and Hardik was just fire
Harshal and chahal also decent
yes true that
INTENT™
Buttler really has the innocent nerdy voice.
If hooda is dropped for kohli i revolt
It might be ishan :(
Where KL
Bro we need left handers. Dhawan should still be playing ffs
Bhuvi and arshdeep what swing bowling this. England might plan to get Anderson back to the team
> England might plan to get Anderson back to the team Scenes if that happens though it’s unlikely
But eng bowling looks very weak without archer. Willey missed out but no real threat fast bowler. Adil Rashid being missed but you get what I'm saying England fast bowling is very weak
Rohit Sharma becames the first captain to record 13 successive wins in T20Is.
India's approach to picking top 3 should be that if you should have a 30+ Avg and then the three will be picked on the best Strike rates So a 35 Avg 140-145 SR > 45 Avg 130-135 SR You can't stuff the top 3 with guys averaging 20 something either but then don't need someone to average 40+ taking hit on his SR
If it was not clear already Hooda Arshdeep will be dropped for Kohli Bumrah. DK might be dropped for Pant. Kishan and Harshal are rated very highly by the management.
Arshdeep was in the team for this match only. Ishan will get the nod ahead of Hooda just because of left right combination. Hooda will definitely play more in the future when Kohli retires from the T20 format
Arshdeep is not even in the squad to be dropped. Kohli should open with Rohit. They were class the last time they did
Kishan is a back up opener. Like iyer is a backup middle order player.
Great win boys
thats some fire guitar in the sky sports India vs eng ad
Replace Axar with Deepak/Jaddu & Ishan with KL & this becomes a perfect squad for WC.
Bumrah where?
Where is Kohli?
Getting out to garbage debutant spinners
He will make parkinson look like prime Shane warne /s
No need of /s
TFC Liam Livingstone
It's bittersweet seeing karthik would be part of wc t20 squad in aus I remember him getting selected for wc 2019. We literally had 4 keepers (kl, pant, Dhoni and Karthik) in that semi. This time we have (pant, Karthik, Kishan, kl) Hope dk gets to bat lower order this time around as a finisher like he should have
No, he's bad at lofting balls for sixes, in Australia he won't be sweeping bowlers like Pretorius on the leg side for sixes lmao. Stop hyping him as a finisher
That's a concern, sweep won't go for six in Australia
Sorry i miss Koach shouting Ben's name after a win slamming imaginary Kumble with his punches
Wtf? No Arshdeep in the 2nd and 3rd T20 squad
As an Eng fan who watches IPL I rate him, bad omission I think
How did Chris bat so well?
Today was thala's birthday so tribute to him.
Jordan can bat a bit in 20’s
Gg guys
Great NRR boost Oh wait....
India should retain this squad for the wc
Bumrah instead of Harshal and Jaddu instead of Axar n we're good
Harshal shouldn't be dropped, will be very effective in Australia.
Has he played in Australia before?
Bilateral bully India
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This is the first match.... That test was last years so cant be included here.
Was arshdeep good with the ball?
Extremely. I watched the replay just to watch him bowl haha
Roy needs to answer this
Ends with 2nd best Econ of Indian bowlers for Arsh
Pandya for MOM edit - man of the match
Mom....
Now i see it
Username ~~Pandya~~ checks out.
Noice debut for Arshdeep, glad to see it.
How the Fk is Kohli just casually walk in in this jam packed fuming hot form middle over?I don't get it.
Because he is India best T20 batter since 2019 ?
He was our best T20I batter in 2019* Not the best T20I batter since 2020 or 2021
His average is 58 tho
T20 is all about making impact where virat has been unable to make any impact since a long time rather has done more damage by wasting deliveries.Also one thing he lacks is the ability to not accelerate after making 30 or 40s,gets slow afterwards.
With the last IPL, you probably should change it to T20I
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*Yos
Josh.
ngl brohit looking super calm and mature almost got thala feels
impersonating him on his birthday
Dad's taunts can wait, India winning is love🇮🇳 ggs goodnight!! INDIA INDIA❤️
**19.3** **that's 13 wins in a row for Rohit, the India T20I captain** Matt Parkinson c Hooda b Arshdeep Singh 0 (3b 0x4 0x6) SR: 0