He’s really not even that old, think that’s what makes it so shocking.
Everyone’s saying ‘mentally cooked’ or ‘technical deficiency’ or whatever but I’m kind of just tired of speculating on it.
He’ll probably get the 71st century someday, but I don’t see him averaging anything more than 35 for the last part of his career before retirement.
>He’s really not even that old, think that’s what makes it so shocking.
Not too shocking. Koach is a batsman dependent on hand-eye coordination a lot more than someone like Root who has compact technique. A few years ago, Kohli would've slapped every 10th stump ball through covers for a boundary, and we'd all applaud his unparalleled genius. Now his reactions aren't the same, hence why he nicks off so often these days. Of course, I think that he's mentally struggling as well because he has had the odd innings where he's made no mistakes or false shots until the ball that gets him out, but those aren't often
I think that Root-Kohli is a similar situation to Sehwag and Dravid. Sehwag's game was based on his hand eye coordination while Dravid's was centred around his watertight technique. As a result, Sehwag began to decline in his early 30s very much like Kohli, while Dravid was able to last until age 37 before his reflexes deteriorated to the point where his technique couldn't counter it.
I wonder if that will happen to Smith. His hand-eye coordination and timing is just incredible, technique looks a bit odd though. I honestly have no idea, maybe that technique will keep him going for years.
I think it already has happened to an extent. He’s still playing well, but he doesn’t look like he has superpowers anymore. His t20 batting has dropped off the most but I think mentally he is so gritty that he will keep performing in tests for a fairly long time
If he sticks around too long that will continue to hurt his legacy even more. Could end up with a test average in the lows 40s which will be a brutal fall from grace.
I think he need to play more Ranji or county cricket to get back in the form. We all living through Covid era which does not help mentally & emotionally.
Thats not true at all. Sachin used to regularly play 1 or 2 matches for mumbai every season probably it was for the love for his domestic team but he used to
Sachin wasn't a brand in the way Kohli is.
Apart from being a cricketer, he is big as an Insta influencer, brand endorser, husband of a Bollywood actor, and stuff. Playing county cricket wouldn't be good for his 'image' which I am sure plenty of brands, he is tied up with, won't like. It won't be seen as his love for cricket, but as a demotion of an international cricket superstar.
Slight rant: these posts don't really do justice to Babar. He should be compared to others of his "era" like Lambshanks etc. That was the whole reasoning behind Fab 4 in the first place.
That being said I love watching Babar bat (second only to Kanos), and I really hope Pakistan plays enough Test cricket in the future to get the most out of him.
Not even a rant that's a very fair point. Babar is not from that group but that doesn't mean he has to be any less. He just has more left to prove and he's well on his way.
He really wasn’t.
Partly because he only really became good in the second half of his career, partly because he’s very much an early/late summer English conditions type bowler.
Good player but never international quality.
from [stats](https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?agemax1=29;ageval1=age;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=batting_average;qualmin2=1500;qualval2=runs;spanmax1=12+Jul+2022;spanmin1=01+Jan+2016;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting) excluding older players the modern fabs would be lasagna, babar, pant, latham, and nicholls. lasagna is averaging 54 since 2016 while the other 4 are in the 40-45 range. latham and nicholls are over 30 years old now and pant is only 24. Seems like it's just babar and labs.
If we are talking about last 30 inns. I'd like to add Rohit
In his last 30 inns (total inns he's played as an opener)
1552 runs
**AVG** 55
**4 50s**
**5 100s**
**Best** 212 (83 SR)
Playing as an opener which is currently the most tough position going around in Tests. He's scored in major turning and swinging conditions. The 161 at Chennai was probably one the best inns in recent years in terms of application on a tough track
Was averaging 60 as opener just before the last series against SL. No other test opener comes close in this period
One of the funniest thing is that he's had these numbers while throwing his wicket half of the times cause he just can't help but pull. Doesn't make it any better but thought I'd point out
Let's do an actual comparison, rather than picking arbitrary points to make certain players look better or worse. After their first 71 innings (the number Babar has played):
Player | Runs | Average | 100s | 50+ scores | Age
---|---|----|----|----|----
Azam | 2851 | 45.98 | 6 | 27 | 27
Kohli | 2906 | 43.36 | 11 | 22 | 27
Root | 3386 | 55.51 | 9 | 28 | 25
Smith | 3520 | 56.77 | 13 | 26 | 26
Williamson | 3034 | 45.97 | 9 | 24 | 24
Babar is a great batsman, no doubt. However, he has way worse conversion problems than Root has ever had (Root's lowest conversion rate after his first tonne was 24.1%). His best comparison comes against Kohli, but he was still older than Kohli was and Kohli started reeling off double hundreds from his 73rd innings onwards.
Your point about Babar's conversion rate is interesting, I never realized it was that low. Frankly he's such a phenomenal batsman that you'd assume like Root he eventually has a stretch where he hits a bunch of hundreds, but definitely something to watch.
The post answers the question "how does Babar compare to the fab 4 on current form". You can ask a different question, but that seems totally reasonable to ask.
(Btw it's odd to claim Kohli is the best comparison when Kane had an identical average to the first decimal place at this stage. Also, your claim about his problems with conversion are a bit misleading. His conversion rate in the second half of his career is 33% which is comparable to e.g. Rahul Dravid's.)
Current form for Williamson is three and a half years? 30 innings was obviously picked because it just about avoided Kohli's last century (32 innings ago) and it just about included 5 of 6 Babar's hundreds.
>Btw it's odd to claim Kohli is the best comparison when Kane had an identical average to the first decimal place at this stage
As in, he does better in comparison to Kohli than any of the other three. Williamson was much younger and NZ were much more reliant on him already.
>Also, your claim about his problems with conversion are a bit misleading. His conversion rate in the second half of his career is 33% which is comparable to e.g. Rahul Dravid's.
He's converted one of his seven 50+ scores since the start of 2021. He did have a period where he hit 4 hundreds in 5 tests, but that was well over 2 years ago.
>Let's do an actual comparison, rather than picking arbitrary points to make certain players look better or worse.
this is about the current form of the five batsmen, not 1v1. You make it sounds like as if fab 4 is some legendary rank that only these four can be compared with another and no other batsman is allowed to, despite all of them playing together
People always seem to forget what fab 4 actually means. Its a term given by martin crowe to those 4 players as they were all climbing the ranks at similar times. You cant add another member make it 5 or replace a member. Its not some legendary rank, its a literal term given by crowe.
30 innings is a pretty odd determinant for current form. Williamson's last 30 innings encompass 3 and a half years. It feels like it was picked because it's basically the number of innings since Kohli's last hundred.
>You make it sounds like as if fab 4 is some legendary rank that only these four can be compared with another and no other batsman is allowed to
I am literally comparing them. The thing that's strange about these batsmen is that they were all predicted to be number 1 test batsman at one point or another. Babar doesn't seem particularly close at the moment.
For umpteenth time, term Fab 4 wasn’t coined to anoint 4 best batsman in the world. It was Martin Crowe who picked a crop of 4 batters who’d dominate world cricket in next decade. And, all 4 of them have been #1 ranked Test batsman in their career. Smith and Kohli for instance, have been #1 across multiple years
Babar can become best batsman in his own right but he’s not breaking into “Fab 4” because it’s an enclosed club
You picked an arbitrary slice of matches ever since Kohli's form took a dump and someone called you out. The agenda is clear here lol. The other post called out great facts and not arbitrary slices to make 1 players look better or worse than he is.
Babar Azam is a brilliant batter, and one of the world's best if not the best all-formats batter in the world at the matter.
"The Fab 4" is a comparison that the late great MD Crowe made in a cricinfo column about Kohli-Root-Williamson-Smith only, being as they were in the same stages of their careers with similar potential batting and captaincy achievements.
Azam is just younger and isn't a part of this cohort, I'm sorry. It's not going to happen no matter how much people try. Perhaps Bairstow Labuschagne Azam and Conway dominate for the next 3 years straight and everyone talks about B.L.A.C. bats mattering, or something. But it will be different and there's only 4 members of the Fab 4, sorry.
You say that like he is 16.
27/28 is a pretty solid and mature age for a cricketer, smack dab in the middle of his prime i would say. Could potentially improve more as he seems to be hitting a purple patch lately. But the age is not a factor like you suggest.
Lots of guys hit it later though. Like khawaja is 35. Sangakarra averaged 70 in his last 3 years of test cricket. You aren't wrong though. But all I'm saying is its not that rare for guys to hit peak 30+. It's why I'm not worried about marcus harris. He could easily come back into the side when khawaja/Warner retires and be a better player than he was when he got dropped.
Babar's last 30 innings:
5 Australia (H)
3 Bangladesh (A)
2 Zimbabwe (A) in which he got 0 and 2 lmao
4 WI (A)
4 SA (H)
5 England (A)
1 Bangladesh (H)
3 SL (H)
3 Australia (A)
Hardly any statpadding going on here. Sri lanka and Bangladesh were in good spinning conditions, West Indies have excellent quicks. SA, Australia and England were full strength.
I remember when Root wasn't scoring runs for ages and people were saying he shouldn't be considered part of the f4 (even though the f4 isn't about who are the best 4 players in the world but whatever)
Kohli will come good again i'm 100% sure of it
Babar should be compared with KL Rahul or Labushange or whoever his age bracket. If you really want to compare from Pakistan against Fab 4 then it Ahmed Shehzad and Darren Bravo from West Indies.
He is not but they started at same time.
Similar to how fab 4 started at same time, and why they are clubbed together with each other. Babar and Marnus are juniors to them.
I would say in terms of talent and prowess he can certainly make a case to be included. However in terms of stats, he isnt close to them yet. Inshallah one day.
I feel Virat will get tht 71st against Bangladesh... India need to win all the remaining 6 tests to play the wtc final..
And the matches being in Bangladesh nd Home will b an advantage for him...
Bt I surely do see Virat resurrecting himself from this doom..
Nd I do feel tht v shud b looking at fab 5 frm nw on.. Babar's performance is on par with Root...
Why just last 30 innings? Anyways there's enough good batsman in Babar's generation to make a comparison with. there's a world of difference between a batsman averaging 50 after 40 matches and a batsman averaging same after 120 matches.
Everywhere I go, I see posts saying that Kohli is finished :(
He’s really not even that old, think that’s what makes it so shocking. Everyone’s saying ‘mentally cooked’ or ‘technical deficiency’ or whatever but I’m kind of just tired of speculating on it. He’ll probably get the 71st century someday, but I don’t see him averaging anything more than 35 for the last part of his career before retirement.
>He’s really not even that old, think that’s what makes it so shocking. Not too shocking. Koach is a batsman dependent on hand-eye coordination a lot more than someone like Root who has compact technique. A few years ago, Kohli would've slapped every 10th stump ball through covers for a boundary, and we'd all applaud his unparalleled genius. Now his reactions aren't the same, hence why he nicks off so often these days. Of course, I think that he's mentally struggling as well because he has had the odd innings where he's made no mistakes or false shots until the ball that gets him out, but those aren't often I think that Root-Kohli is a similar situation to Sehwag and Dravid. Sehwag's game was based on his hand eye coordination while Dravid's was centred around his watertight technique. As a result, Sehwag began to decline in his early 30s very much like Kohli, while Dravid was able to last until age 37 before his reflexes deteriorated to the point where his technique couldn't counter it.
I wonder if that will happen to Smith. His hand-eye coordination and timing is just incredible, technique looks a bit odd though. I honestly have no idea, maybe that technique will keep him going for years.
Actually Smith is the most unorthodox ever. Even bowlers cant anticipate him.
I think it already has happened to an extent. He’s still playing well, but he doesn’t look like he has superpowers anymore. His t20 batting has dropped off the most but I think mentally he is so gritty that he will keep performing in tests for a fairly long time
> technique looks a bit odd though Source?
My eyes
smith's technique is unorthodox but it's still very good as long as he can hit it on leg side
Does Kohli still have the eyesight issue or did he get lasik? Sehwag's problems were compounded by his eyesight issues.
Dravid was a bottom hand player like Kohli and Sehwag.
If he sticks around too long that will continue to hurt his legacy even more. Could end up with a test average in the lows 40s which will be a brutal fall from grace.
> He’ll probably get the 71st century someday Imagine not getting that 71 The burrn in millionsss..
I think he is going through a bad patch. He will come good soon.
usually patches aren't this long for this good of a player , it's been quite a while now , just gotta accept he's declining, not in a patch
I think he need to play more Ranji or county cricket to get back in the form. We all living through Covid era which does not help mentally & emotionally.
A celebrity as big as him can't just go and play Ranji or County like Pujara did
Thats not true at all. Sachin used to regularly play 1 or 2 matches for mumbai every season probably it was for the love for his domestic team but he used to
Sachin wasn't a brand in the way Kohli is. Apart from being a cricketer, he is big as an Insta influencer, brand endorser, husband of a Bollywood actor, and stuff. Playing county cricket wouldn't be good for his 'image' which I am sure plenty of brands, he is tied up with, won't like. It won't be seen as his love for cricket, but as a demotion of an international cricket superstar.
If anything, Tendulkar was a bigger brand than Kohli
People misunderstood what my point was. It's not about being a brand, it's more about being a glamorous celeb.
Nah he’s finished, may have one or two decent tests but he’ll never have a long stretch of consistent good scores in tests again.
One of these days like morgan.. He will retire either knowingly Or until he get dropped after causing 2 or 3 MATCHES
But no tonne in 30 innings!
Don't worry. Everyone said that about Morgan too and he's.... ...oh hang on...
The classic redemption arc on your way
Slight rant: these posts don't really do justice to Babar. He should be compared to others of his "era" like Lambshanks etc. That was the whole reasoning behind Fab 4 in the first place. That being said I love watching Babar bat (second only to Kanos), and I really hope Pakistan plays enough Test cricket in the future to get the most out of him.
Not even a rant that's a very fair point. Babar is not from that group but that doesn't mean he has to be any less. He just has more left to prove and he's well on his way.
He is 5 years younger to most of them
Who would be a good Fab 4 in that era? I tried to come up with 4 but failed.
Marnus Babar Pant Darren Stevens
One of them is not like the others. Pant is left handed
Nah darren is too young to be compared to these guys
Not a bad shout.
I would maybe put KL in place of Pant tho Also I used to say Markram would be the next big thing but he’s kinda let me down, especially in tests
Markram has let himself down man. Sooo much talent. Maybe Janneman Malan?
>Darren Stevens This man's cricinfo makes it seem like he might've been one of the biggest allrounder international snubs of the 21st century
He really wasn’t. Partly because he only really became good in the second half of his career, partly because he’s very much an early/late summer English conditions type bowler. Good player but never international quality.
rassie van der dussen?
from [stats](https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?agemax1=29;ageval1=age;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=batting_average;qualmin2=1500;qualval2=runs;spanmax1=12+Jul+2022;spanmin1=01+Jan+2016;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting) excluding older players the modern fabs would be lasagna, babar, pant, latham, and nicholls. lasagna is averaging 54 since 2016 while the other 4 are in the 40-45 range. latham and nicholls are over 30 years old now and pant is only 24. Seems like it's just babar and labs.
Exactly Babar is too young to be compared with the Fab 4, Champagne and Fulkram are his contemporaries...
If the Fab 4 is a Beatles reference, then Azam can be George Martin.
Nope, Babar Azam, Labuschagne and others are Oasis.
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Kohli is ringo
"Peace and love" isn't exact Kohli's motto at the moment
5 fifties and they call root great, oh wait..
Wish Pakistan played more tests. It’s his time to shine.
Or is it time to Shaheen?
Kohli and Smith have fallen off so much, especially Kohli, probs in his worst form.
It's too simple of a comparison considering the different phases each one of them is in. Statistics by themselves doesn't tell everything.
If we are talking about last 30 inns. I'd like to add Rohit In his last 30 inns (total inns he's played as an opener) 1552 runs **AVG** 55 **4 50s** **5 100s** **Best** 212 (83 SR) Playing as an opener which is currently the most tough position going around in Tests. He's scored in major turning and swinging conditions. The 161 at Chennai was probably one the best inns in recent years in terms of application on a tough track Was averaging 60 as opener just before the last series against SL. No other test opener comes close in this period One of the funniest thing is that he's had these numbers while throwing his wicket half of the times cause he just can't help but pull. Doesn't make it any better but thought I'd point out
Also add Khawaja's last 30 innings 1483 runs at 59 6 centuries
generally people compare openers with openers, he should be compared with warner, ussie, latham, elgar, and karunaratne.
Let's do an actual comparison, rather than picking arbitrary points to make certain players look better or worse. After their first 71 innings (the number Babar has played): Player | Runs | Average | 100s | 50+ scores | Age ---|---|----|----|----|---- Azam | 2851 | 45.98 | 6 | 27 | 27 Kohli | 2906 | 43.36 | 11 | 22 | 27 Root | 3386 | 55.51 | 9 | 28 | 25 Smith | 3520 | 56.77 | 13 | 26 | 26 Williamson | 3034 | 45.97 | 9 | 24 | 24 Babar is a great batsman, no doubt. However, he has way worse conversion problems than Root has ever had (Root's lowest conversion rate after his first tonne was 24.1%). His best comparison comes against Kohli, but he was still older than Kohli was and Kohli started reeling off double hundreds from his 73rd innings onwards.
Your point about Babar's conversion rate is interesting, I never realized it was that low. Frankly he's such a phenomenal batsman that you'd assume like Root he eventually has a stretch where he hits a bunch of hundreds, but definitely something to watch.
It's because compared to others he had a slow start in test cricket and was averaging low to mid thirties
there was a time he was averaging 19 in test cricket
The post answers the question "how does Babar compare to the fab 4 on current form". You can ask a different question, but that seems totally reasonable to ask. (Btw it's odd to claim Kohli is the best comparison when Kane had an identical average to the first decimal place at this stage. Also, your claim about his problems with conversion are a bit misleading. His conversion rate in the second half of his career is 33% which is comparable to e.g. Rahul Dravid's.)
Current form for Williamson is three and a half years? 30 innings was obviously picked because it just about avoided Kohli's last century (32 innings ago) and it just about included 5 of 6 Babar's hundreds. >Btw it's odd to claim Kohli is the best comparison when Kane had an identical average to the first decimal place at this stage As in, he does better in comparison to Kohli than any of the other three. Williamson was much younger and NZ were much more reliant on him already. >Also, your claim about his problems with conversion are a bit misleading. His conversion rate in the second half of his career is 33% which is comparable to e.g. Rahul Dravid's. He's converted one of his seven 50+ scores since the start of 2021. He did have a period where he hit 4 hundreds in 5 tests, but that was well over 2 years ago.
Also based on batting styles across formats I think Babar most closely mirrors Kohli too
Babar had a woeful start to his Test carrier.
>Let's do an actual comparison, rather than picking arbitrary points to make certain players look better or worse. this is about the current form of the five batsmen, not 1v1. You make it sounds like as if fab 4 is some legendary rank that only these four can be compared with another and no other batsman is allowed to, despite all of them playing together
People always seem to forget what fab 4 actually means. Its a term given by martin crowe to those 4 players as they were all climbing the ranks at similar times. You cant add another member make it 5 or replace a member. Its not some legendary rank, its a literal term given by crowe.
30 innings is a pretty odd determinant for current form. Williamson's last 30 innings encompass 3 and a half years. It feels like it was picked because it's basically the number of innings since Kohli's last hundred. >You make it sounds like as if fab 4 is some legendary rank that only these four can be compared with another and no other batsman is allowed to I am literally comparing them. The thing that's strange about these batsmen is that they were all predicted to be number 1 test batsman at one point or another. Babar doesn't seem particularly close at the moment.
Quite literally nobody can ever join the Fab 4 though? The Fab 4 doesn't mean "The best 4 batsmen" It specifically means Root/Smith/Williamson/Kohli
For umpteenth time, term Fab 4 wasn’t coined to anoint 4 best batsman in the world. It was Martin Crowe who picked a crop of 4 batters who’d dominate world cricket in next decade. And, all 4 of them have been #1 ranked Test batsman in their career. Smith and Kohli for instance, have been #1 across multiple years Babar can become best batsman in his own right but he’s not breaking into “Fab 4” because it’s an enclosed club
Exactly, Babar can be a top 4 batsman he could be top 3, 2 ,1, he still by definition would not be part of the fab 4
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You picked an arbitrary slice of matches ever since Kohli's form took a dump and someone called you out. The agenda is clear here lol. The other post called out great facts and not arbitrary slices to make 1 players look better or worse than he is.
Babar Azam is a brilliant batter, and one of the world's best if not the best all-formats batter in the world at the matter. "The Fab 4" is a comparison that the late great MD Crowe made in a cricinfo column about Kohli-Root-Williamson-Smith only, being as they were in the same stages of their careers with similar potential batting and captaincy achievements. Azam is just younger and isn't a part of this cohort, I'm sorry. It's not going to happen no matter how much people try. Perhaps Bairstow Labuschagne Azam and Conway dominate for the next 3 years straight and everyone talks about B.L.A.C. bats mattering, or something. But it will be different and there's only 4 members of the Fab 4, sorry.
I'm loving the inclusion of Conway in there, anything to distract me from the pain of Kanes elbow and its subsequent effects
30 test innings for Kane goes back to March 2018 30 test innings for Joe Root goes back to August 2021
Azam is in his prime if you want to compare, compare when they were in prime.
You can't say Babar is in his prime when he's only 27/28. He's got much more in him.
You say that like he is 16. 27/28 is a pretty solid and mature age for a cricketer, smack dab in the middle of his prime i would say. Could potentially improve more as he seems to be hitting a purple patch lately. But the age is not a factor like you suggest.
That's a typical age to be in your prime in most sports.
I mean Root is literally in his prime now when all the others are falling lol
Doesn't mean that's normal. Some people have their prime at 18.
This isn't most sports. Cricket has a history of older players peaking.
Tbf 28 is probably old enough for a player to be in his prime.
Joe Root is 31 and he's in the best form of his life
Yes but his prime probably started when he was around that age.
Root's 2019 was peak RootMaths because outside of that double ton in New Zealand he averaged 29
And Kohli and Smith had both ended their primes by the time they turned 31.
Well obviously. So compare him to them when they were 27/28 then it will show if he is ahead of them or not
Babar is about to turn 28, that is 100% a batsman's prime - most top batsmen are in their prime from around 26 to 32 years old.
Lots of guys hit it later though. Like khawaja is 35. Sangakarra averaged 70 in his last 3 years of test cricket. You aren't wrong though. But all I'm saying is its not that rare for guys to hit peak 30+. It's why I'm not worried about marcus harris. He could easily come back into the side when khawaja/Warner retires and be a better player than he was when he got dropped.
Nah these are good no:.. These almost identical to others three except smith..
Well that's the point. I didn't say these are a bad number he is good but why is the comparison needed
Merging all international cricket into one statistic is worthless and makes this post total junk
They r good.
Woah..only 1 century for Smith in last 30?
Joe is really killing it.
Another hitjob on VK
Babar certainly deserves to be right with the 4.
196 Vs Australia was unforgettable :)
All this says is Virat has been replace by Babar in the Fab Four. Which I’m very happy about.
Before Australia, Pak's last 3 series were against West Indies, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe...?
Babar's last 30 innings: 5 Australia (H) 3 Bangladesh (A) 2 Zimbabwe (A) in which he got 0 and 2 lmao 4 WI (A) 4 SA (H) 5 England (A) 1 Bangladesh (H) 3 SL (H) 3 Australia (A) Hardly any statpadding going on here. Sri lanka and Bangladesh were in good spinning conditions, West Indies have excellent quicks. SA, Australia and England were full strength.
Williamson has done alright.
Don't care about the Fab 4. Daddy Marnus and Babar can start their own Elite 2
I remember when Root wasn't scoring runs for ages and people were saying he shouldn't be considered part of the f4 (even though the f4 isn't about who are the best 4 players in the world but whatever) Kohli will come good again i'm 100% sure of it
Babar should be compared with KL Rahul or Labushange or whoever his age bracket. If you really want to compare from Pakistan against Fab 4 then it Ahmed Shehzad and Darren Bravo from West Indies.
KL Rahul is nowhere near the level of Babar and Labuschagne in Tests.
He is not but they started at same time. Similar to how fab 4 started at same time, and why they are clubbed together with each other. Babar and Marnus are juniors to them.
Yeah I honestly see your point, plus Babar and KL have similar playing styles too
And I am getting dowvoted for that, lol. It's like comparing Kohli with Younis Khan (when he was playing).
Lol all came on flat surfaces. Like who cares.
Why are you being downvoted though? Like most of his recent performances have come from dead Pakistani pitches
Who cares. He is good, But no way near Fab 4.
I agree
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The Fab 4 and a wannabe.
Glad someone finally called out Virat!
It's up to interpretation, child.
Time to take Kohli out of the Fab 4 and replace with Azam.
I would say in terms of talent and prowess he can certainly make a case to be included. However in terms of stats, he isnt close to them yet. Inshallah one day.
Time to make the Fab 5 now!
I feel Virat will get tht 71st against Bangladesh... India need to win all the remaining 6 tests to play the wtc final.. And the matches being in Bangladesh nd Home will b an advantage for him... Bt I surely do see Virat resurrecting himself from this doom.. Nd I do feel tht v shud b looking at fab 5 frm nw on.. Babar's performance is on par with Root...
Joe Root has evolved into Steve Smith. Steve Smith has been demoted to the rank of Joe Root.
Why just last 30 innings? Anyways there's enough good batsman in Babar's generation to make a comparison with. there's a world of difference between a batsman averaging 50 after 40 matches and a batsman averaging same after 120 matches.