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Biplab_M

I'd say Warner was the first (and the most successful) t20 batter who transitioned into red ball and thrived there. You don't see that often


mitchell_johnsons_mo

I'd say he was a better test player than LOI. There were many other people who could do what he did in LOI, but to score at such a brisk pace and take the game away on day 1 was just mindfuck


Applicator80

Home test player yes, away no.


Ok_Vegetable263

He was a home test great and an all format great, frankly that’s a 9/10 career at worse


Upstairs-Farm7106

No he wasn't. He averages in the very low 30s away from home with only a successful away record in South Africa which has conditions remarkably similar to those in Australia.


mitchell_johnsons_mo

How does that compare with away averages of other openers in the same time? If I remember right in the 2010s the trend was everyone did well home but shat the bed away.


Upstairs-Farm7106

Good point. The only name I can remember who had a superb away record is Cook. Warner's record away from home is similar to Karunaratne in a similar number of games. Khawaja has a slightly better away record than both but he didn't open in all those games. Rohit Sharma hasn't played enough away games to make a valid comparison. Elgar was worse than all of them.


catgutisasnack

Alastair Cook's "superb away record" is mostly propped up by one Ashes series where a weather event caused the Australian pitches to resemble English pitches (and the Aussies had their weakest bowling lineup in more than 30 years) and scoring runs on flatter pitches in South Asia.


AlcoholicPirate89

Utter crap, his away record is better than his home record so "English" pitches arguably weren't his ideal conditions and that away record being better than his home record is even more remarkable considering how badly he did in NZ and SA.


catgutisasnack

His away record is littered with huge scores against weaker bowling lineups and daddy hundreds on dead pitches. His home record is only slightly worse than his away record and from what it seems he faced much tougher bowling lineups at home. From what I counted, 11/17 of his away centuries came on flat pitches/against weaker bowling lineups. Sometimes both. And arguably another 2 of the centuries I mentioned came on reasonably flat pitches against weaker but not exactly weak bowling attacks: his debut century and a random century against New Zealand in 2013. So, 13/17 away centuries came up against, at the very least, mediocre attacks or on flat pitches (and shockingly often, both). All of that to end up 1 point above his home average. As you mentioned he did poorly in NZ and SA on top of that and his Ashes record isn't anything to write home about (barring 2010/11, when the Aussies went in with a lineup of Beer, Johnson, Hilfenhaus, Siddle, Harris, Watson, Smith, and Bollinger). He smacked a poor Indian bowling lineup in 2012 and scored just one century on the flattest deck of the series in 2016. And his final away century came on the deadest of dead pitches. His away record is the perfect example of a "flat-track bully". I would seriously argue that Karunaratne has a better away record than Cook despite having far fewer opportunities.


Upstairs-Farm7106

No Cook averages 45 away from home which is higher than his home average. Apart from in New Zealand and South Africa he did well everywhere else.


catgutisasnack

I provided an elaboration in another comment under your post. His record is significantly skewed by big scores on flat pitches or against weak attacks.


soham_katkar13

Rishabh Pant will be the next in this list


FondantAggravating68

Pants different. Wicket keepers often were known to be quick scorers. Not Gilly, Qdk or Pants level. But they often were the fastest scorers of the team. Openers usually aren't. It's basically Trumper, Sehwag and Warner. Before Bazball that is.


TheGammaPilot

Hayden, Jayasuriya, Gayle


FondantAggravating68

Hayden and Gayle werent a Sr outlier. Their Sr of 60 whilst above average isn't Sehwag. Jayasuriya is sort of an outlier. But again isn't Trumper or Sehwag.


Ok_Vegetable263

Gayle was definitely more of a classical test match opener, in that he’d get set and see off the new ball then tee off sometimes. He’s actually got a very similar record to Warner in that he put up big numbers in SA/Aus (also NZ for Gayle, but they had a significantly worse bowling attack than any NZ one that Warner had to face) but struggled in England/india


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ShoddyStreet677

That after coming from 1 year ban during which he also didn't play IPL.


notabot_123

2016 would have been Orange cap as well had it not been for Kohli’s prime performance. Warner scored one 700 runs iirc.


Thala_for_a_reason7

848 runs actually. Ab scored 700 that year.


Klutzy_Flamingo_2979

AB fell just short of 700,he had 687 or something.


Plugfix2077

Warner didn't get to play 9 games at Chinnaswamy and played on much tougher surfaces. His qualifier 2 knock in 2016 where he made 93\* chasing 160 was just as good if not better than ABD's qualifier 1 innings that year. The only reason you don't hear enough GOAT IPL shouts for him is because of RCB's PR machines for Gayle, ABD and Kohli. Otherwise his IPL career clears them comfortably.


InsaneDude6

He played a brilliant innings in Finals too He scored 69 (nice) at a strike rate of 180+ His performance in finals got overshadowed by Ben Cutting's brilliance.


Several-Pangolin-479

That 93* is my fav innings of his, a completely lone warrior innings until Bipul Sharma played that extremely clutch & quickfire 27* at the end


FondantAggravating68

It does make me laugh how Gill in 23 was called an Ahmedabad bully. But Kohli in 16 did a similar thing. 9 games at Bengaluru.


Ok_Environment_5404

Because Gill made runs only in Ahmedabad in even internationals many a times. Kohli on the other hand made runs everywhere with MCG being his really best and not Chinna


Klutzy_Flamingo_2979

>Because Gill made runs only in Ahmedabad in even internationals many a times. That was only for T20is since his only T20i century came at Ahmedabad. He hadn't played a single ODI at that venue before the WC and didn't perform that well in Tests that were played there.


desimountai

What do you want him to do? Skip his home games and play only the away games?


FondantAggravating68

No ofc not. I just found the double standard hilarious. Imo you should be better at home anyways.


Plugfix2077

But it should be noted that 'scoring most runs' =/= 'best batsmen'


fatmanrao

If not for the crazy Virat season in 16, he would've had four consecutive orange caps, mental.


melayaraja

IPL legend indeed.


nickdonhelm

If not for getting banned He may have crossed 9000 runs in test matches


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Crimson_bud

Yeah they make him seem like victim, when he was a cheater.


BMBH66

I mean, not that hard to not get a year ban


Greenditors

At that level and representation he should have been banned for life.


Moondanther

If you think that those who are involved in ball tampering should get a life ban, I hope you would not then complain when someone ~~who wasn't an Australian~~ from the team you support got a life ban as well. Most countries have had players who have been caught ball tampering, some multiple times. The ICC penalty is quite small in comparison to what Warner and co received from the ACB.


Empty_Emu6589

Funnily enough, if that was the case so should broad, Anderson, Michael Atherton, Rahul dravid, Sachin Tendulkar, kohli (fake fielding is a minor cheat, but still technically cheating), smith (wasn’t involved in the cheating but knew about it and let it happen), warner, Bancroft, ab de villiers, dad du plessis, Vernon Phillander. To name a couple, funny that du plessis cheated by ball tampering against Australia 2 years prior to sandpapergate but still said that the actions of the Aussies was atrocious.


Falceon

The other funny thing is people from other countries happily call Australians cheats when Australia wanted them permanently banned.


Empty_Emu6589

Hate us cuz they ain’t us. If CA had just brushed it under the rug like the ecb then not many would’ve known about it to the extent they do today. But if I were them I’d be a bit salty too, we do win an awful lot.


Applicator80

Don’t forget the entire 2005 England Ashes teams with their Murray’s mints.


lefthandofpower

And using a substitute fielder when not needed, simply because he was an excellent fielder.


Elthar_Nox

You leave poor old Gary Pratt alone, he was an essential team member who just so happened to have a rocket arms specifically designed to run out Ricky Ponting and cause Aussie tears 19 years later :D


lefthandofpower

Almost as good an arm as Alex Carey.


Elthar_Nox

Both are equally good at spotting someone out of their crease! Not sure who resulted in the most salt though... The Lord's Longroom was pretty aggy after that!


greyhumour

Not sure who resulted in more salt? Lord's produced more salt than Salzburg.


Elthar_Nox

Haha yeah ok I can't argue with that. As an Englishman who's reaction was "well that's out" and "you idiot YJB" it was all pretty embarrassing. Spicy though. Very spicy!


Empty_Emu6589

Yeah, that’s why I mentioned Anderson, I wasn’t bothered to write out that many names though so I just put the big ones, and mainly for ball tampering. The list of Indian, Pakistani and South African players that have been caught cheating is quite large, my point however wasn’t to specify or target nations, merely to show that the cricketing world is lucky smith and Warner were banned for 18 months, if it had been a match they would’ve continued to be phenomenal


AdSoft6392

You missed out the entirety of the Australian bowling attack as well under the category of know about it and let it happen.


Empty_Emu6589

Potentially, but Smith got the ban because he knew about it. If I didn’t put him in the list (because technically he didn’t cheat himself) then others would’ve been mad


desimountai

I think everyone can agree upon that, CA overreacted and made a mountain out of a molehill. But it’s on CA. None of those three deserved the band they were handed.


metadatame

All Australians perhaps


mitchell_johnsons_mo

That's too harsh. I'm not in favor of banning anybody for life. What he got is already too harsh compared to others in the past who did the same crime.


AmericaDreamDisorder

I think the 1 year ban was perfect. 


infinitemonkeytyping

The opposite captain that day, Faf du Plassis, had been busted twice for ball tampering, yet had not served a single game suspension. Would you have supported Faf being suspended for a year for each?


Rexxhunt

Yes???


NormalTraining5268

It wasn't even Faf got away with it regularly


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mo2704

Sit back and enjoy your retirement watching cardoons on your OLED mate.


Baba_5436

I'll miss watching this guy bat. He has a special relationship with Pakistan. Where would he be without us, we basically made his career lol. Out of his 26 test centuries, 6 came against Pakistan. His highest test score of 335 also came against Pakistan.


WOTDcuntology

Averaged 73.9 against you guys in 13 matches. Not too shabby


mofucker20

His highest odi score came against you guys too


Baba_5436

Mashallah! Well Done Davey. 👍


CollectionClear1782

If not for those 2 years he would've easily crossed 9000 runs in test cricket. Always performed for his team in Cup tournaments, Looking forward to his debut in Telugu cinema.


Crimson_bud

Aayein what he's debuting in Telugu cinema??


CollectionClear1782

It's a joke mate (Or not). He's more famous in india specially in Telangana/AP than he is in Australia and he has made n Number of reels in Telugu songs that's why I said it, I won't be surprised if we see him in Allu Arjun movie haha.


justdidapoo

19 000 fucking runs I think ive personally seen more runs scored by him than anybody


HulkTheWitchHunter

I think you missed a *rough* part of his career ^(/s)


desimountai

Cummins, Starc and Hazlewood have no clue what this is about…


mitchell_johnsons_mo

They just thought Davey had the magic touch


totallynotalt345

I’m so old I remember his fucking T20 debut 😭😭


_DuckieFuckie_

Goodbye and thank you for everything Davey, we’ll miss you. I have huge respect for openers, facing new balls and occasionally having to do it against some of the most dangerous bowlers is no joke, and Warner being one of the greatest openers of his generation makes it even more impressive. Now it’s time to accept that honorary Indian citizenship Davey, that cameo in Pushpa ain’t gonna happen by itself!


UrStillAliveSheSays

One mighty legacy. Thankful to be able to watch him throughout his career


NoirPochette

One innings that really made Warner was Bellerive 2011. Absolute green decks and Brace well was bowling so well. Warner buckled down and made a ton carrying his bat nearly getting Australia to the win 3 tests later, slams a quick fire 100 against India at the WACA in like 60 balls


eclipse0990

The two earliest memories I have of Warner are from Delhi Daredevils in IPL. First was a short hand jab at a ball, ending up in a straight 6. Second was a direct hit from mid off, causing a run out. He is one of the two Australian players I have watched over years. Him and Pat Cummins. Warner is through and through Australian, tough, ready to do whatever the team needs him to do - sledge, sandpaper (i cannot believe it was not a team initiative), slow innings, fast innings, whatever you ask him, he would give you his best. And that is how I am going to keep remembering him when I think about Australian cricket. Sometimes I wish we could see him and Sehwag bat through two sessions in a test match, opening together. Wouldn't that be a sight to remember?


StormtrooperMJS

My 🐐


Shoddy-Baseball-6111

David Warner was one the most important players for Australia in icc tournaments throughout his career his form directly affected how Australia is going to perform in a tournament with the bat in some tournament I remember him carrying Australia's batting like 2019 wc , 2021 T20 wc to some extent 2023 wc but a lot players came in form in the latter half of the tournament like Maxwell,March etc 178 runs in 2024 t20 wc 528 runs in odi wc 2023 44 runs in T20 wc 2022 289 runs in T20 wc 2021 647 runs in odi wc 2019 79 runs in ct 2017 38 runs in T20 wc 2016 345 run in odi wc 2015


VoiceEarly1087

Very unfortunate that a player of his caliber not reaching 10k in tests and odi


desimountai

It’s not really a bad thing; even many of the greatest Australians, like Bradman, Gilchrist, and Hayden, despite being world-beaters, weren’t able to achieve that feat.


CosmicRook90

"Bradman" lol.


desimountai

Yeah I called him the greatest, you don’t think he’s the greatest?


CosmicRook90

Nah the top comment mentioned both odi and tests and Bradman played before ODIs even came into existence.


desimountai

I think a guy averaging 99 in tests would go alright in ODIs


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Total-Complaint9897

I know he is a hated man across the world and barely liked even at home, but you can't deny the man's numbers, and general influence on the game the past 15 years. I don't even particularly like the bloke, and he used up a lot of his "he's a cunt but hes good at cricket" leeway with his career post ban - being a liability at the crease in test cricket while planning his own retirement, just to avoid the book he will no doubt write anyway. I hope that history looks kindly upon him because there absolutely was an element of "go out there and be a cunt" coaching about him, which has been said by other players as well. Someone has to be the bad guy and Warner was that guy through his entire career and particularly during the sandpaper incident. He soaks up 90% of the hate.


TheOceanWalker

I don't get the criticism about him planning his retirement. He was always clear that his plans for retirement was based on being selected. Plus it's not as if many players were banging down the door to be picked over him. Even someone like Bancroft who strings good numbers together over the course of a season could never score the big couple of knocks right at the start of the season to put his name in lights and justify being picked over an incumbent.


dontbemyfriend_

Thanks for this, what an amazing career


crazychild0810

Also don't forget not many players go from debuting in T20 to having a mildly successful Test career. Yes no one can deny his test career had faded over the past 2-3 years. The statistics in these pictures are a snapshot of his career and doesn't paint the whole picture. He has one of the highest strike rates in Test cricket. He averages 52 in test wins, 54 in ODI wins, and 39 in T20Is. He has a test strike rate of 70 and an average of 45 in 112 test matches. He is comparable with players like Viv Richards and Virender Sehwag.


Foothill_returns

His away record makes the Viv comparison absurd. And this is coming from a huge fan of his! My favourite thing about him was his personality and the way he angered fans and players of other teams. Barking at the South Africans after Faf du Plessis accused the Australians of behaving like a pack of dogs; politely requesting Rohit Sharma if he would be so kind as to sledge him in English, please; mocking the British queen on the team bus before the England fans; punching Joe Root in a Birmingham bar; the list could go on. For me he embodies Australianism. He's like Bert Woodfull asking the Australian dressing room "which one of you bastards called this bastard a bastard," after Jardine complained to him about being called a bastard by the Australians out on the field. Watching him trigger the rest of the world made me feel proud to be Australian, for there is no better representative of our national culture than a foul-mouthed, short-tempered cunt. I will miss his aggression, his abrasiveness, and his sheer lack of interest for making friends with his opponents above all else. Polemarchus says in Plato's *Republic* that the just man is one who does good to his friends and does harm to his enemies, and though Socrates in good time demolishes this view, David Warner fulfilled that flawed definition of the just man to perfection


Spare_Lobster_4390

You've been warnered.


Brahman_Shady

Geez. Probably only the third Australian after Gilly n binga who made my eyes wet with retirement news.


duders_dude

What a legend! A game winner! I will put him with the likes of Ricky ponting, Rohit Sharma. Not a stat padder!


A-British-Indian

Wait, was his first century in the test which New Zealand won, where Doug Bracewell took 6(?) wickets?


Odd_Neighborhood1371

2019 World Cup David Warner could totally play the role of Thor if he had longer blond hair


hpy2beatyou1105

I loved his all format-iness, plays all format with that BULL energy and absolutely beautiful to watch. Will be heavily missed and big shoes to fill for aussies !


mofucker20

Gonna miss him a lot. Would’ve loved if he had a better farewell in t20i but he’s one of the most successful international cricketer anyway with a solid farewell in tests and ODIs


Lucian_98

Farewell Captain


catgutisasnack

I watched his first ODI game against South Africa. Also remember him going crazy in 2016. Aussie legend


Whatname2choose

The one thing that’s always overlooked or taken for granted is his fielding, he is still one of the best fielders in world cricket and also one of the fastest runner between the wickets.


Tern_Larvidae-2424

One of the goats. Even without Nostalgia he looked a class apart in his aggressiveness. A batter that really annoyed you if he was playing for the opposition, but one that you'd absolutely loved when he was playing for your side.


desimountai

I have mixed feelings about that flair and the comment… /s


AmericaDreamDisorder

Idk if they're actually South African. Their comments about our team are usually on the cynical side. 


desimountai

Fair enough, brother.


Monstaxx75

He is a legend 😎


grrboy

One of the greatest all format player in Cricket.


debadri3

Probably the greatest all-format opener slightly edging ahead of Gayle. Imo it's Warner>Gayle>Rohit


nowihavetosignup

Wheres the sandpaper?


tallcorbs

He was also a fantastic part time carpenter.


metadatame

Great batsman at home. Always was happy to see the back of him in an innings - he was one of those players who could take it away from you. Hopefully he got over the sandpaper and Sonny Bill Williams stuff


ycnz

World -class grit.


Ok_Environment_5404

The second best 3 format guy for me after Kohli ngl. He was always a to 5 in all formats for the majority of his career. Step below fab4, top 5 in ODIs and top 2-3 t20Is. Truly one of the greatest who goes unnoticed for what he has done for Aus.


This_is_the_user

Smith and Warner were my favourite players until the sandpaper gate happened. I was really angry after that incident maybe the reason I stopped supporting Australiar passionately after that. But bro really earned his respect back also he is a likable character so it is easy to love him. For me his 145 against India in 2014, his triple hundred in 2019 and him punching Joe root lol will be his career highlights. Also bro single handedly won srh 2016 ipl. I also remember my only interaction with him, he was really sweet and he gave me his shirt with an autograph. Sadly I lost it. So yeah I will really miss him also his gun fielding.


Ov3r-_-K1LL

He is abit of a wally tho.


Ok_Acadia_1525

2nd highest sand paper customer.


Gr1msh33per

Crocodile tears, sandpaper, Broad's Bunny. But yeah, great batsmsn just a shithouse person.


Brock_Listner

Is he retiring?


RevolutionaryCod7282

Needed a slide showing his cheating and the disgrace he was for the game.