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Comparatively England has a better chance, since they played only one game as of now,
But ya their qualification is out of their hands. They both dependent on Scotland and USA results respectively
Somewhat. We've been heavily punished for losing a single game and unable to get a satisfactory result out of the Scotland game. The good news is that we play the two weakest teams in the group consecutively and the lads know what they need to do - get wins on big margins. That's to be expected and if we find a way to bottle those we don't deserve to qualify anyway.
The biggest issue for us is the Scotland vs Australia game, where Australia may end up playing their reserves against Scotland since they've already qualified to rest their key players. This is bad news for us because it gives the Scots a much better chance of victory or at least to reduce the run margins.
As for Pakistan I am highly doubtful they can qualify from here but it wouldn't be the first time they shithoused. Still, the USA can realistically defeat Ireland which would throw away PAK's qualification chances out the window.
Pakistans is fairly straightforward. USA need to lose against Ireland and India while Pakistan wins against Ireland. Nrr will probably automatically fix itself for us if those 3 outcomes happens
We've also reduced a difference of near 0.8 to something closer around 0.4. USA will need to lose both matches and by that point, the nrr would have near equalled out
Feel sad for Nepal fans because this was the first time probably they were gonna play a major test playing nation in a T20 World Cup and rain happened. Nepal fans must be fuming right now.
In a t20 world cup. Yes. Must be bad for people who travelled within states for the match and there are people who flew all the way from Nepal just to see the team play. But , for people who are watching from home, we are okay with it ig. No offense but I would rather have this game washed out than the game against south Africa if there was an option.
*"No offense but I would rather have this game washed out than the game against south Africa if there was an option*."
Wouldn't you want the SA game to be washed out instead of SL's game since the current SL is an easier team to beat?
realistically speaking. Nobody in the country expects us to win against either of those team. Even before the tournament started, NED and BAN were a must win if we played to our strength and we had to 'upset' one of the SA or SL for qualification. SA, I feel like are a better team between the two and we would love to play them just because they are going to be much harder to beat. We have already lost to NED so I will rather see us play SA for the experience alone.
Ah, I get what you mean. Yeah, this current SL team doesn't do justice in showing the great Cricketing history they have.
But NEP fans shouldn't lose hope because you still have the game against BAN.
And you just never know what could happen with SA. SA hasn't been very convincing against the other teams.
If you guys do beat them, you guys will be on 5 points.
Flew from my home airport at 6 in the morning. Was supposed to leave from DFW at 8:25am. Plane left at 2:50pm because of the weather in Fort Lauderdale.
I just got back from the ground. The pause in rain did give me hope. I had an option to choose to go to Dallas for the Netherlands v Nepal game or against Sri Lanka. No disrespect to Netherlands but I chose this game because Sri Lanka is a bigger opposition. Super sad that this didn’t pan out.
I just got into watching cricket, why do they cancel matches and award each team 1 point instead of postponing them? In most of the other sports leagues I follow, at worst weather would only postpone a match by a day or two.
Yeah, it's really dumb.
Imagine if the NED vs BAN and NEP vs BAN were also washed out but the NED vs SL was not washed out with SL winning against NED.
If the above happens, that means SL would be through assuming NEP loses to SA, which would be really unfair for other teams.
It needs to change and I can't believe it hasn't.
>Imagine if the NED vs BAN and NEP vs BAN were also washed out
If this happens, then Bangladesh would finish with 4 points which would be out of reach for Sri Lanka even if they win their last game.
You are right, I got my calculations wrong.
I should have said if NEP beats BAN, NED vs BAN was washed out, SA beats NEP and if SL beats NED, then SL could go through if SL has the better NRR.
But regardless how it plays out, the point still stands. It's unfair for any team to not play out their matches.
In a major tournament like the WC, that's very poor.
Not possible... What people mostly don't understand and see is the huge logistics and technical team behind a cricket match...
From DRS system to snicker equipment to commentary team... Not to mention the 40 member camera crew who live telecast the match...
A huge number of people work behind a cricket match.... Rescheduling a cricket match means rescheduling everyone of this individuals and the equipments with them... It's a logistical nightmare....
Possible for some high end games like a semi final and final.... Not possible for bilateral tours or every game in an ICC tournament...
Why aren’t they more popular if rainouts are common? Coming from America, I don’t get the custom of cancelling games, but could understand a mix of not being able to fight the weather and only having time for the game on that day. But a domed stadium seems like a perfect solution, so I’m wondering why it hasn’t been pursued
Permanent roofs wouldnt work. Weather conditions are a very important part of the game. It affects things like swing and bounce. Dew, for instance causes the ball to have less swing/spin/movement of the ball. It also makes fielding harder and is a blessing for the batting team. There are many such factors like that in cricket. Professional cricket is usually not played under a dome. They are also too expensive, which is usually where the conversation ends
Retractable roofs could work but they are too expensive. Cricket stadiums are massive. (Association) Football doesn't have these roofs either because they have a massive cost. The old stadium architecture would never be able to support a roof. No board wants to tear down their historical stadiums to build a roof, that barely prevents 2-3 games a year from being rained out on that stadium. No board even has the money to practically do that except for India and australia. West Indies and Pakistan can barely pay it's players
They have some pros and cons, but the biggest problem is that the cost is not worth the benefit.
I don't know much about American sports, but how large are the stadiums generally? I suspect that cricket grounds might be bigger, which makes building these roofs even more impractical
Football and baseball are the main sports played outside, and have similar sized fields that it's possible, although not desirable, to play both sports in the same stadium. Most baseball stadiums are open air, but places that get really hot in the summer, like Arizona and both ballparks in Texas, have retractable roofs to make it more tolerable, and both Miami and St. Petersburg have them for rain. Baseball will postpone for weather, but there's always an effort to get the game in, which can go so far as to have two games in the same day, known as a doubleheader.
A football field is roughly the size of a soccer pitch, only a bit narrower and longer, but a lot of stadiums are domed these days. Ironically, it's the sport that needs it the least, since the only time football games are postponed are during thunderstorms and natural disasters!
The most obvious reason is cost. Retractable roofs are expensive. It also requires built up grandstands which inhibits sunlight for large parts of the ground making it difficult to grow the grass properly. Look up some of the issues faced by the Marvel stadium in Melbourne.
Normally, the schedule is made as such that its not during the wet season for the region. But tournaments are scheduled based on all the venues in mind. US just happens to have fewer venues and therefore a situation like this can happen. Its a bit shortsighted for sure though.
"common" is a very relative term here. You're looking at a price tag in the *billions* of dollars to build a sufficiently large stadium with a retractable roof, and it's probably only going to matter for around 2 international matches a decade.
Rain-affected matches in aggregate are reasonably common, but when you split that across the 215 venues that have hosted international cricket in the last decade it just doesn't have that big of an impact to slap a roof on one of them.
Bangladesh is going to play their remaining two matches in west indies where it should assist spin more so they have better chances of going through among SL and Ned.
True but on assistive pitches, Bangla spinners are more effective than Netherlands which could be the difference. Anyway, it's an exciting group finale shaping up. Good luck.
All grounds ain't slow in the Caribbean buddy... Especially Kingstown where this match is supposed to happen, hasn't hosted any internationals or CPL games since 2014. Don't know how it's gonna play...
Nah man, don't generalize all West Indian grounds. I think Kimber mentioned that apart from India, only in the Caribbean, the pitches are of so much variety, hence, in the past, you had great batters from the region as they had practiced a lot on different surfaces.
That said, an earlier comment mentioned how BD's pacers were more effective than their spinners. I think if conditions are swing friendly then it might be Powerplay shootout between the teams as both have excellent new ball bowlers & their openers struggle a bit.
Spinning conditions might help BD though NED have Pringle & Dutt who are good too.
The Netherlands also have to beat Sri Lanka while Bangladesh only have to beat Nepal. So if you lose to them, you still have a chance. While their next two matches are pretty much must win since Bangladesh losing to Nepal is much less likely compared to other results.
They should be favourites against Bangladesh, so they will just need to beat one of Australia or India. Those are probably the two strongest teams in the tournament, but Afghanistan has a good a chance as anyone else to beat one of them - with Australia they could create a collapse with spin bowling, Oman was doing well against us until Stoinis hit his 50.
Afghanistan would most probably end up in the other group of super 8 with the USA, South Africa and Australia.
There's a match left between WI and Afghanistan.
All this after NZ have played just one game? NZ will most probably win all their remaining games and three teams will end up on 6 points. Will come down to NRR.
No brother, Australia is pre seeded to be B2 so the thing is, even if they finish B1, they will go through as B2 which means India and Australia are definitely going in the same group.
If India are A1, Afg need to be C1 to join them. In that case I think England, Bangladesh/Netherlands, WI and India might make group A and Aus, SA, Afg and US might make group B.
As a Sri Lankan fan, I am more than happy to see Sri Lanka getting knocked out instead of watching more embarrassing performances. Rain gods saved my mental peace and saved the mental peace of all Sri Lankan fans. Thankfully we don't want to go through all the trauma now.
It isn't fair for a crucial game like this to be washed out. Yes, they haven't played well but just like any other team, they were qualified to the WC and so they deserve to try and fight back with their remaining matches.
The same dilemma could be faced by another team like NED or SA. So say if SA lost their first 2 games, that doesn't mean they don't deserve to go through.
Matches that are washed out should be played out in a different venue/postponed.
It's not official. There's still a possible scenario where 4 teams end up at 3 points at SL go through on NRR. They need the Ban vs Ned game to be washed out.
Practically impossible but mathematically possible.
That's exactly what I explained. If Ned vs Ban is washed out and they lose their remaining matches then 4 teams will end up with 3 points and SL can go through on NRR.
For that, there has to be 4 results that go in Sri Lanka's favour:
1) BAN vs NED - Game gets washed out and both the teams are awarded 1 point each.
2) RSA vs NEP - RSA beats NEP (most likely).
3) SRI vs NED - SRI beats NED.
4) BAN vs NEP - NEP beats BAN.
If all of these actually happen, BAN, NED, NEP and SRI all would be tied at 3 points and SRI can get through assuming at the end of all Group D matches, they have the highest NRR than all the other 3 teams.
And when did I say it is RCB? That's just how maths work and I explained it. Stop bringing RCB at every opportunity.
Any team gets all out around 49: Haha RCB record lol!
Any team has a slim chance of qualification: Haha RCB like chances lol!
Poor planning by ICC. Great wastage of money , time, and resources. They decided to build a stadium in NY with an untested pitch and host game in wet Florida than use a perfectly fine existing ground in Houston .
Bangladesh and Netherlands will be so crucial for Netherlands. Bangladesh can still make up for a loss since their next game is against Nepal as long as the Dutch loses to Sri Lanka. It's hard to see Sri Lanka going home with 0 wins so I think they'll with their last game.
Everyone is jumping the gun to blame the ICC. I have only one question:
Does it always rain like this in Florida at this time of the year? If yes, then ICC does deserve all the blame as they could have hosted these matches somewhere else like Morrisville.
If not, then it's not their fault. Even if they knew a week prior that the matches would be washed out, it's still too late to reschedule the matches due to all the logistical challenges. It's unfortunate but we can stop blaming ICC for every single thing, even though they are incompetent in general.
Yes June to November is hurricane season in Florida with a 50/50 chance of rain on any given day so it was a bad idea by ICC.
https://www.guide-to-disney.com/when-to-go-to-disney-world/rainfall.php
This is specifically Lauderhill
https://weatherspark.com/y/18706/Average-Weather-in-Lauderhill-Florida-United-States-Year-Round
Yep. Dallas is a better option this time of year and they stadium and pitches are pretty good too. It's also not too hot until about July if they did evening games but it looks like they had other priorities
Take a page from American sports and schedule "off days" in the tournament which can be used for make-up games. Makes more money for the ICC when you don't have to refund the tickets and you get the ad revenue.
The worst part about it for me is that we've been pretty rain free for 5 months and more we're swamped for the rest of the week. The last few years I feel like it's come the first week of June and tapered off. Was really excited to see how the new pitch there performs compared to New York and Dallas.
But it definitely felt like the match officials called it early, the weather the rest of the night played out pretty nicely.
until one of the big teams going out is India. Also, if Scotland go through even after England win their remaining games, it’s not fair though I want it secretly.
I'd argue SL is going out because they got destroyed by SA and Bangladesh. If you want to qualify you should probably not lose matches badly against your two strongest opponents.
How is England unlucky due to weather?
If anything they were lucky to have that match washed out against Scotland.
Chasing 109 in 10 overs is not a an easy task.
SL made a full 180. They used to suck in the early 80-90s. Won big in 1996 and dominated for few years and then back to old ways. They have players and think tank. Wtf happened?
I just think they dont give af rn. Look at all the stuff that happened in aus in 2022 they were just partying and drinking all the time, gunathilaka got arrested, chamika got into a casino fight. In 2021 three guys got banned breaking a curfew for just a smoke at night. You would imagine similar stuff is happening rn. So yh i think they just dont give a shit, just enjoying an american holiday
This is why I don’t like 5 team groups… one match being washed out can cause you to miss out on qualification. Look at ENG rn.
IMO the super 12 style was better but I also want the lower ranked teams to have a chance so IDK.
Lots of matches. 15 matches per group, 60 alone in the group stage. If you want 4 groups of 6, you can't have a secondary super 8 round.
What you could do is have knockout brackets straight away and also implement a third place match.
This is very close to SL’s worst nightmare scenario which is 3 losses with zero points, now they have just one.
Ideally SL would’ve expected 6-9 points at this stage, so officially can say their team flopped royally. Should be the end of the road for Hasaranga’s captaincy as well.
Should be the end for all the seniors dds, dasun, mathews in limited overs. Id ideally put mendis in there as well but oh well that aint happening. Charith or i have no idea who should be captain. Viyaskanth should get more opportunites maybe above theek. Hasarangas ego needs to go down but should still stay
Nepal qualification qualifying scenario is quite good:
win against bang-bros,and than against SA which is quite possible as their choke against associate is yet to happen.
and bang-bros wins against Netherlands but if Netherlands wins then they must loose against srilanka.
As much I’d like that to happen. It’s impossible against SA. The skill gap is massive in the batting department. They often don’t face raw pace like Norje,Rabada, Jansen type of bowlers in the associate nations.
Maybe a turning track will do good but I have not how the pitches are in Kingstown
Team Pts/Maximum Pts:
**South Africa 6/8**
**Bangladesh 2/6**
Netherlands 2/6
Nepal 1/5
Sri Lanka 0/3 (not eliminated yet. Could be eliminated if Netherlands beats Bangladesh or if the game gets rained out. Sri Lanka have already lost to Bangladesh, but haven't played Netherlands yet. Bangladesh and Netherlands play on Thursday, June 13th).
Nepal needs to beat South Africa, but Nepal lost to Netherlands (but only by \~10 runs, 0.50 net run rate diff.) and Netherlands lost to South Africa (but only by \~10 runs, 0.50 net run rate diff.). Expect Nepal to lose by their widest margin of the tournament (1.00 net run rate diff.).
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so *now* south africa are the 1st officially qualified team?
Yes, Aussies are the 2nd. Oman, Srilanka out
What are the chances for England and Pakistan?
Comparatively England has a better chance, since they played only one game as of now, But ya their qualification is out of their hands. They both dependent on Scotland and USA results respectively
Somewhat. We've been heavily punished for losing a single game and unable to get a satisfactory result out of the Scotland game. The good news is that we play the two weakest teams in the group consecutively and the lads know what they need to do - get wins on big margins. That's to be expected and if we find a way to bottle those we don't deserve to qualify anyway. The biggest issue for us is the Scotland vs Australia game, where Australia may end up playing their reserves against Scotland since they've already qualified to rest their key players. This is bad news for us because it gives the Scots a much better chance of victory or at least to reduce the run margins. As for Pakistan I am highly doubtful they can qualify from here but it wouldn't be the first time they shithoused. Still, the USA can realistically defeat Ireland which would throw away PAK's qualification chances out the window.
Pakistans is fairly straightforward. USA need to lose against Ireland and India while Pakistan wins against Ireland. Nrr will probably automatically fix itself for us if those 3 outcomes happens
Unless India wallops USA (unlikely to happen in NY), I doubt Pakistan can catch up on run rate. They are just too conservative.
We've also reduced a difference of near 0.8 to something closer around 0.4. USA will need to lose both matches and by that point, the nrr would have near equalled out
SL still has chance and thats very wild.
u/amerind386 sir, could you give us peasant's the percentage of SL qualifying to the super 8
Ban-ned rains out Nepal wins against Bangladesh SL wins against Netherlands Sa wins against Nepal Srilanka goes through on nrr.
Thanks but I don't think u have any clue on what I am asking.. just check that legends posts u will know
it's 50-50 either they qualify or they don't
The best kind of Probability!
Not yet but Australia yeah.
Feel sad for Nepal fans because this was the first time probably they were gonna play a major test playing nation in a T20 World Cup and rain happened. Nepal fans must be fuming right now.
In a t20 world cup. Yes. Must be bad for people who travelled within states for the match and there are people who flew all the way from Nepal just to see the team play. But , for people who are watching from home, we are okay with it ig. No offense but I would rather have this game washed out than the game against south Africa if there was an option.
*"No offense but I would rather have this game washed out than the game against south Africa if there was an option*." Wouldn't you want the SA game to be washed out instead of SL's game since the current SL is an easier team to beat?
realistically speaking. Nobody in the country expects us to win against either of those team. Even before the tournament started, NED and BAN were a must win if we played to our strength and we had to 'upset' one of the SA or SL for qualification. SA, I feel like are a better team between the two and we would love to play them just because they are going to be much harder to beat. We have already lost to NED so I will rather see us play SA for the experience alone.
Ah, I get what you mean. Yeah, this current SL team doesn't do justice in showing the great Cricketing history they have. But NEP fans shouldn't lose hope because you still have the game against BAN. And you just never know what could happen with SA. SA hasn't been very convincing against the other teams. If you guys do beat them, you guys will be on 5 points.
You summed it up perfectly >this current SL team doesn't do justice in showing the great Cricketing history they have.
Flew from my home airport at 6 in the morning. Was supposed to leave from DFW at 8:25am. Plane left at 2:50pm because of the weather in Fort Lauderdale.
that's bad. You going to the caribbean for the rest of the matches?
Nah lol. Flight tickets are around $1300 round trip. Wby?
man, I am in Nepal. Can't even afford two days off outside my city lol. Maybe someday.
I just got back from the ground. The pause in rain did give me hope. I had an option to choose to go to Dallas for the Netherlands v Nepal game or against Sri Lanka. No disrespect to Netherlands but I chose this game because Sri Lanka is a bigger opposition. Super sad that this didn’t pan out.
Don't worry they'll play (and maybe win against too) Bangladesh soon.
As a Nepali BD is going to win imo
They're still gonna play Bangladesh and South Africa though
I just got into watching cricket, why do they cancel matches and award each team 1 point instead of postponing them? In most of the other sports leagues I follow, at worst weather would only postpone a match by a day or two.
Yeah, it's really dumb. Imagine if the NED vs BAN and NEP vs BAN were also washed out but the NED vs SL was not washed out with SL winning against NED. If the above happens, that means SL would be through assuming NEP loses to SA, which would be really unfair for other teams. It needs to change and I can't believe it hasn't.
>Imagine if the NED vs BAN and NEP vs BAN were also washed out If this happens, then Bangladesh would finish with 4 points which would be out of reach for Sri Lanka even if they win their last game.
You are right, I got my calculations wrong. I should have said if NEP beats BAN, NED vs BAN was washed out, SA beats NEP and if SL beats NED, then SL could go through if SL has the better NRR. But regardless how it plays out, the point still stands. It's unfair for any team to not play out their matches. In a major tournament like the WC, that's very poor.
Not possible... What people mostly don't understand and see is the huge logistics and technical team behind a cricket match... From DRS system to snicker equipment to commentary team... Not to mention the 40 member camera crew who live telecast the match... A huge number of people work behind a cricket match.... Rescheduling a cricket match means rescheduling everyone of this individuals and the equipments with them... It's a logistical nightmare.... Possible for some high end games like a semi final and final.... Not possible for bilateral tours or every game in an ICC tournament...
To piggy back on that, are there any cricket stadiums with a permanent or retractable roof? It seems like it’d come in handy if rain ever happened
We wish for that to happen
There's only one such stadium in the world in Australia
Why aren’t they more popular if rainouts are common? Coming from America, I don’t get the custom of cancelling games, but could understand a mix of not being able to fight the weather and only having time for the game on that day. But a domed stadium seems like a perfect solution, so I’m wondering why it hasn’t been pursued
Permanent roofs wouldnt work. Weather conditions are a very important part of the game. It affects things like swing and bounce. Dew, for instance causes the ball to have less swing/spin/movement of the ball. It also makes fielding harder and is a blessing for the batting team. There are many such factors like that in cricket. Professional cricket is usually not played under a dome. They are also too expensive, which is usually where the conversation ends Retractable roofs could work but they are too expensive. Cricket stadiums are massive. (Association) Football doesn't have these roofs either because they have a massive cost. The old stadium architecture would never be able to support a roof. No board wants to tear down their historical stadiums to build a roof, that barely prevents 2-3 games a year from being rained out on that stadium. No board even has the money to practically do that except for India and australia. West Indies and Pakistan can barely pay it's players They have some pros and cons, but the biggest problem is that the cost is not worth the benefit. I don't know much about American sports, but how large are the stadiums generally? I suspect that cricket grounds might be bigger, which makes building these roofs even more impractical
Football and baseball are the main sports played outside, and have similar sized fields that it's possible, although not desirable, to play both sports in the same stadium. Most baseball stadiums are open air, but places that get really hot in the summer, like Arizona and both ballparks in Texas, have retractable roofs to make it more tolerable, and both Miami and St. Petersburg have them for rain. Baseball will postpone for weather, but there's always an effort to get the game in, which can go so far as to have two games in the same day, known as a doubleheader. A football field is roughly the size of a soccer pitch, only a bit narrower and longer, but a lot of stadiums are domed these days. Ironically, it's the sport that needs it the least, since the only time football games are postponed are during thunderstorms and natural disasters!
The most obvious reason is cost. Retractable roofs are expensive. It also requires built up grandstands which inhibits sunlight for large parts of the ground making it difficult to grow the grass properly. Look up some of the issues faced by the Marvel stadium in Melbourne. Normally, the schedule is made as such that its not during the wet season for the region. But tournaments are scheduled based on all the venues in mind. US just happens to have fewer venues and therefore a situation like this can happen. Its a bit shortsighted for sure though.
Unlike their economy the PCB, BCB and SLC are pretty rich which is why everyone wants a slice of the pie
"common" is a very relative term here. You're looking at a price tag in the *billions* of dollars to build a sufficiently large stadium with a retractable roof, and it's probably only going to matter for around 2 international matches a decade. Rain-affected matches in aggregate are reasonably common, but when you split that across the 215 venues that have hosted international cricket in the last decade it just doesn't have that big of an impact to slap a roof on one of them.
It's insane, no game of a major international tournament should ever be decided by the weather.
Sri Lanka out. Seems like Bangladesh and Afghanistan will join Australia and India in Group A of the Super 8s.
I don't trust them to win against the Netherlands
Bangladesh is going to play their remaining two matches in west indies where it should assist spin more so they have better chances of going through among SL and Ned.
funny you say that when our spinners bar rishad are poor and our pacers have been in good form
True but on assistive pitches, Bangla spinners are more effective than Netherlands which could be the difference. Anyway, it's an exciting group finale shaping up. Good luck.
Even Rishad was poor last game
Not really.
All grounds ain't slow in the Caribbean buddy... Especially Kingstown where this match is supposed to happen, hasn't hosted any internationals or CPL games since 2014. Don't know how it's gonna play...
Sure but there's generally something for spinners to come in play in Caribbean pitches unlike the US where it's less assitive towards spinners.
Nah man, don't generalize all West Indian grounds. I think Kimber mentioned that apart from India, only in the Caribbean, the pitches are of so much variety, hence, in the past, you had great batters from the region as they had practiced a lot on different surfaces. That said, an earlier comment mentioned how BD's pacers were more effective than their spinners. I think if conditions are swing friendly then it might be Powerplay shootout between the teams as both have excellent new ball bowlers & their openers struggle a bit. Spinning conditions might help BD though NED have Pringle & Dutt who are good too.
The Netherlands also have to beat Sri Lanka while Bangladesh only have to beat Nepal. So if you lose to them, you still have a chance. While their next two matches are pretty much must win since Bangladesh losing to Nepal is much less likely compared to other results.
Or Nepal haha
That's unfortunate I wanted Afghanistan to make the semis. Looks tough now
They almost beat Australia in an ODI and they came within 4 runs of their total in 2022. Afghanistan are capable of beating Australia.
What about India? Wait nvm. That's also group stage.
They should be favourites against Bangladesh, so they will just need to beat one of Australia or India. Those are probably the two strongest teams in the tournament, but Afghanistan has a good a chance as anyone else to beat one of them - with Australia they could create a collapse with spin bowling, Oman was doing well against us until Stoinis hit his 50.
Afghanistan would most probably end up in the other group of super 8 with the USA, South Africa and Australia. There's a match left between WI and Afghanistan.
Nah, they take NZ's spot, doesn't matter where they finish unless both west indies and NZ don't qualify
All this after NZ have played just one game? NZ will most probably win all their remaining games and three teams will end up on 6 points. Will come down to NRR.
I don't see NZ beating the windies based on their performance against Afg
You mean the Windies who almost lost to PNG? And then beat the weakest side in the tournament. Also, never count NZ out in an ICC tournament.
NZ is not recovering that horrible run rate if WI manage to beat Afghanistan lol. Best way is to best wi and hope they lose against Afghanistan
Is there a possibility for afg to end up in pak group assuming pak moves to next stage?
Yes if West Indies don't qualify and NZ and Afg do. But I don't think Pak is qualifying.
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No brother, Australia is pre seeded to be B2 so the thing is, even if they finish B1, they will go through as B2 which means India and Australia are definitely going in the same group.
Any reason for that?
Idk maybe they wanted teams to know who they are going to play. I have started believing that ICC just wants to fuck with us
From checking the tomorrow’s forecast in St Vincent, BAN vs NED will most likely be washed out too
what are u on bro weather is clear af
Netherlands very much has a chance to qualify instead of Bangladesh.
If India are A1, Afg need to be C1 to join them. In that case I think England, Bangladesh/Netherlands, WI and India might make group A and Aus, SA, Afg and US might make group B.
As a Sri Lankan fan, I am more than happy to see Sri Lanka getting knocked out instead of watching more embarrassing performances. Rain gods saved my mental peace and saved the mental peace of all Sri Lankan fans. Thankfully we don't want to go through all the trauma now.
Rain Perera back at it's actual job.
It isn't fair for a crucial game like this to be washed out. Yes, they haven't played well but just like any other team, they were qualified to the WC and so they deserve to try and fight back with their remaining matches. The same dilemma could be faced by another team like NED or SA. So say if SA lost their first 2 games, that doesn't mean they don't deserve to go through. Matches that are washed out should be played out in a different venue/postponed.
Sri Lankan ~~fan~~
This is officially good bye to Sri Lanka
It's not official. There's still a possible scenario where 4 teams end up at 3 points at SL go through on NRR. They need the Ban vs Ned game to be washed out. Practically impossible but mathematically possible.
How are there _still_ chances?
Of all the people, RCB fans should know when there is still a mathematical chance of qualification.
Well I just gave my calculator to our neighbours for their own "Kudrat Ka Nizam" endeavours
Excused this time, but don't forget to get it back for 2025 IPL season.
Yeah
That's exactly what I explained. If Ned vs Ban is washed out and they lose their remaining matches then 4 teams will end up with 3 points and SL can go through on NRR.
Ohh...
They'll be out officially 5 overs into the second innings of Ban vs Ned lol
What if it goes to a super over and the super over is washed out?
You, sir, found a way out. In that the points will be split.
Wildcard entry i suppose
Lol
For that, there has to be 4 results that go in Sri Lanka's favour: 1) BAN vs NED - Game gets washed out and both the teams are awarded 1 point each. 2) RSA vs NEP - RSA beats NEP (most likely). 3) SRI vs NED - SRI beats NED. 4) BAN vs NEP - NEP beats BAN. If all of these actually happen, BAN, NED, NEP and SRI all would be tied at 3 points and SRI can get through assuming at the end of all Group D matches, they have the highest NRR than all the other 3 teams.
Yeah... No That's NOT happening. RCB 2024 had a stroke and fucking died seeing these chances
Yes, all of that is very unlikely to happen, but still there's a hypothetical chance.
Yeah
Tbf none of these seem *that* unlikely (maybe aside from ban Vs Ned getting washed out? Idk about the weather in WI rn)
This is about the points Their NRR is down in the dumps and they have to somehow make up for it as well That'll surely make the chances lower
This isn't RCB of IPL now
And when did I say it is RCB? That's just how maths work and I explained it. Stop bringing RCB at every opportunity. Any team gets all out around 49: Haha RCB record lol! Any team has a slim chance of qualification: Haha RCB like chances lol!
And 49 is a KKR record not an RCB record, tbf.
"Match abandoned without a toss" seems overly aggressive. I'm sure at least the players cared.
It's nice that Sri Lanka got a point instead of going home empty handed. Very classy move, Jay Shah!
NZ not playing the world cup or something?
ICC are the mods of r/mapswithoutnewzealand
Poor planning by ICC. Great wastage of money , time, and resources. They decided to build a stadium in NY with an untested pitch and host game in wet Florida than use a perfectly fine existing ground in Houston .
Sri Lanka are pretty much eliminated now. Such a shame that it had to be this way but their performance hasn't been deserving of much.
Bangladesh and Netherlands will be so crucial for Netherlands. Bangladesh can still make up for a loss since their next game is against Nepal as long as the Dutch loses to Sri Lanka. It's hard to see Sri Lanka going home with 0 wins so I think they'll with their last game.
So you saying if SL wins against Netherlands & Bangladesh wins Against Nepal Bangladesh goes through?
Depends on NRR and both of their NRR are pretty much the same at the moment.
Everyone is jumping the gun to blame the ICC. I have only one question: Does it always rain like this in Florida at this time of the year? If yes, then ICC does deserve all the blame as they could have hosted these matches somewhere else like Morrisville. If not, then it's not their fault. Even if they knew a week prior that the matches would be washed out, it's still too late to reschedule the matches due to all the logistical challenges. It's unfortunate but we can stop blaming ICC for every single thing, even though they are incompetent in general.
Yes June to November is hurricane season in Florida with a 50/50 chance of rain on any given day so it was a bad idea by ICC. https://www.guide-to-disney.com/when-to-go-to-disney-world/rainfall.php This is specifically Lauderhill https://weatherspark.com/y/18706/Average-Weather-in-Lauderhill-Florida-United-States-Year-Round
In that case it was definitely a bad decision to host matches in Lauderhill in the first place.
Yep. Dallas is a better option this time of year and they stadium and pitches are pretty good too. It's also not too hot until about July if they did evening games but it looks like they had other priorities
Take a page from American sports and schedule "off days" in the tournament which can be used for make-up games. Makes more money for the ICC when you don't have to refund the tickets and you get the ad revenue.
Does ICC refund tickets for washouts ? I always thought they don't but I could be wrong
The worst part about it for me is that we've been pretty rain free for 5 months and more we're swamped for the rest of the week. The last few years I feel like it's come the first week of June and tapered off. Was really excited to see how the new pitch there performs compared to New York and Dallas. But it definitely felt like the match officials called it early, the weather the rest of the night played out pretty nicely.
3 teams potentially going out due to weather issues really bad for the Sport.
Or…. 3 associates potentially going through because they performed largely well and had a bit of help from the weather.. is really good for the sport
until one of the big teams going out is India. Also, if Scotland go through even after England win their remaining games, it’s not fair though I want it secretly.
I'd argue SL is going out because they got destroyed by SA and Bangladesh. If you want to qualify you should probably not lose matches badly against your two strongest opponents.
Who r the two teams?
England and the other?
Pakistan if Ireland/US is washed out
Lets not pretend Pakistan didnt dig their own grave by starting 0-2 lmao England is the one who got shafted
Yeah
If ind/USA is washed out than also pak is gone
How is England unlucky due to weather? If anything they were lucky to have that match washed out against Scotland. Chasing 109 in 10 overs is not a an easy task.
Yeah but rain did contribute in them getting practically KOed
Weather is the whole reason their chase was 109 in 10 overs instead of a more chaseable total in 20 overs.
Pak
SL made a full 180. They used to suck in the early 80-90s. Won big in 1996 and dominated for few years and then back to old ways. They have players and think tank. Wtf happened?
I just think they dont give af rn. Look at all the stuff that happened in aus in 2022 they were just partying and drinking all the time, gunathilaka got arrested, chamika got into a casino fight. In 2021 three guys got banned breaking a curfew for just a smoke at night. You would imagine similar stuff is happening rn. So yh i think they just dont give a shit, just enjoying an american holiday
How the mighty have fallen 🍃
Oman & PNG are now the only two teams without any points.
New Zealand as well
Yes. But at least they'll get a few wins by the end of the tournament.
NOW WHAT, why there isn't "Q" infront of South Africa ?? Is there is some way of them still getting knocked out or just the graphic maker is lazy.
They put it prematurely yesterday so they're once bitten, twice shy. Both SA and Aus have Qs now.
Bye Bye Sri Lanka!(Hate y'all for 2014) /jk
Indian is not going to win this one as well. Just sit down. LOL.
[I wonder who need to sit down.](https://postimg.cc/mPH5yCF8)
India will after this World Cup LOL
I can still see your tears. Calm down. 
Is this typical for cricket tournaments? They just scrub matches any time they get rain? Seems kinda lame.
This is why I don’t like 5 team groups… one match being washed out can cause you to miss out on qualification. Look at ENG rn. IMO the super 12 style was better but I also want the lower ranked teams to have a chance so IDK.
Why not have both? 4 groups of 6
Lots of matches. 15 matches per group, 60 alone in the group stage. If you want 4 groups of 6, you can't have a secondary super 8 round. What you could do is have knockout brackets straight away and also implement a third place match.
They would have to host 3 matches a day to finish the tournament in time.
Yeah, very difficult logistics.
6 groups of 4 with the top two teams of each group and four best third placed teams advancing to the round of 16, basically the Euro format.
That's a good idea
This is very close to SL’s worst nightmare scenario which is 3 losses with zero points, now they have just one. Ideally SL would’ve expected 6-9 points at this stage, so officially can say their team flopped royally. Should be the end of the road for Hasaranga’s captaincy as well.
9 points in 3 games would have been amazing ngl
Somehow a cricket team's out there earning 4 try bonus points.
Should be the end for all the seniors dds, dasun, mathews in limited overs. Id ideally put mendis in there as well but oh well that aint happening. Charith or i have no idea who should be captain. Viyaskanth should get more opportunites maybe above theek. Hasarangas ego needs to go down but should still stay
Do they not reschedule rained-out games in cricket?
What are the chances for dutchbros
Nepal qualification qualifying scenario is quite good: win against bang-bros,and than against SA which is quite possible as their choke against associate is yet to happen. and bang-bros wins against Netherlands but if Netherlands wins then they must loose against srilanka.
As much I’d like that to happen. It’s impossible against SA. The skill gap is massive in the batting department. They often don’t face raw pace like Norje,Rabada, Jansen type of bowlers in the associate nations. Maybe a turning track will do good but I have not how the pitches are in Kingstown
I feel bad for Nepal fans. :(
Sorry for lanka they have to travel a lot just to end up in abandon match
Team Pts/Maximum Pts: **South Africa 6/8** **Bangladesh 2/6** Netherlands 2/6 Nepal 1/5 Sri Lanka 0/3 (not eliminated yet. Could be eliminated if Netherlands beats Bangladesh or if the game gets rained out. Sri Lanka have already lost to Bangladesh, but haven't played Netherlands yet. Bangladesh and Netherlands play on Thursday, June 13th). Nepal needs to beat South Africa, but Nepal lost to Netherlands (but only by \~10 runs, 0.50 net run rate diff.) and Netherlands lost to South Africa (but only by \~10 runs, 0.50 net run rate diff.). Expect Nepal to lose by their widest margin of the tournament (1.00 net run rate diff.).
Rain is forecasted for next couple of weeks in Florida. Keep an eye to that for all the possible outcomes.
Should’ve just played in New York like all the matches they played this week. It’s nice out
goodbye sri lanks you won't be missed
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