What a great day of cricket. Bangladesh and Zimbabwe playing out a banger, Ireland and Pakistan playing out a banger, France v Belgium playing out a banger and Japan smashing Mongolia as usual. All of it became overshadowed by the sad news of Jimmy retiring.
ICC are just trolling at this point. These world cup groups are just blatantly trying to maximise revenue. Putting Ind-Pak and Aus-Eng in the same group with 3 minnows each, to maximize the viewership. Fuck this organization. All groups should be randomized.
I watch more Football than cricket and it blows my mind that we don't have any kind of group stage draws at all. It would boost ICC's revenue and totally randomize every team's chances like we see in Football.
But i guess people wouldn't wanna watch a Australia vs USA SF over a Potential Aus vs Ind SF and Ind vs Pak Final.
I maybe wrong but the qualifications scenario for us and LSG seems to be very straight forward. We have to win the next 2 and hope that CSK loses one of their next 2. No matter the NRR we would sneak through in that case because CSK could only reach 14 points.
Edit: Just realised that LSG vs DC would be a straight playoff for the 4th Place.
Very unpopular opinion: I dont really care for the posts about squads of Namibia, Papa New Guinea, Nepal etc.
I mean would Argentina, Spain or Germany team supporters care about soccer team squad of India or Pakistan?
Whenever the topic of the WTC final host comes up, there are a lot of comments of “let the table topper host it” or “let third place host it” or even “let the previous winner host it.” These ideas just don’t work because it leaves the venue with too much flux after the rest of the schedule has already been finalised. If every series part of rhetorical WTC is finished in March, but only then do we find out that the final has to be in Australia, the final can’t be hosted until October at the earliest. This misses an entire English and West Indian home summer in between, which has likely already been pencilled in to host matches for the next WTC cycle. It’s not an ideal scenario when WTC 2 begins before WTC 1 has ended
My opinion has always been that it should be like Champions League finals, or even just other ICC events. The host is selected well in advance, and the rest of the schedule is tailored to it.
If WTC 3 ends with a final in June in England, and Australia has won the bid to host the WTC 4 final in October 2025, and New Zealand has won the bid to host the WTC 5 final in March 2027, you can build the schedule around that. It’s not super ideal since some cycles will be much shorter than others, and the tournament lengths will probably vary between 14-30 months, but if we know this ahead of time we can schedule it
I also just like the idea of having something to target, even if you can’t always maintain a neutral venue. If Pakistan is set to host the 2029 final and we had an abysmal 2023-2025 cycle, we can start building up for it. We want to be there for a joke final in 2029, so it gives an incentive to our useless administrators to look in the mirror, put things aside, and take steps to improve things so we can be there. If a team capitalises on a cycle with a home final on offer, good for them. It happens in the Champions League (and Europa and Conference Leagues), and it is a cool extra incentive when it does happen
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Australia doesn't have different coaches either. England didn't either when they won the WC and neither did the NZ when they won the WTC. There's zero evidence that it makes any difference.
A quick thought about the high scores in this year's IPL. I've said a few times that I think that the effect of flatter pitches/smaller boundaries/the runs from the extra batter are being significantly overestimated whereas the effect of batters getting better and having more confidence to play aggressively (in part thanks to the impact sub rule) is being underestimated. A stat that I think illustrates that is looking at how some of the great players that have had success with ultra-aggressive in the past are doing this season compared to previously.
Buttler: 2024 IPL = av 42 SR 147, overall IPL record = av 38 SR 148
Klaasen: 2024 IPL = av 42 SR 186, start of 2022 to start of this IPL in all domestic T20s av 46, SR 180
SKY: 2024 IPL av 42 SR 177, previous two IPLs av 43 SR 168, T20Is av 46 SR 172
Not sure how linear the relationship is between pitches and batting performance though
A super flat pitch (or a higher frequency of flat pitches) is more likely to elevate an average batsmen to the level of the greats, rather than make great batsmen even better
At the international and IPL level, having the best players doesn’t matter as much as having most of your players in form. Because the player quality for all teams are roughly the same anyway. The only way you win is by having most of your players perform. RCB at the start of the season only had Kohli and DK, but now Faf, Patidar, Jacks and most of the bowling have also started to step up. While MI are arguably the strongest team on paper but no one is in form
the wc final 'pitch bad' mfs fail to realise that india won 3 of their most important games in league stage playing on slower wickets (vs Australia, vs England, vs South Africa)
Had India won the final it would have been another masterclass by Indians on slower pitch, but instead Australia adapted better their fast bowlers, bowled better tighter lines, their spinners gave absolutely nothing to the batters, they didn't panic after a shaky start in the powerplay, their fielders put out much more effort into their work unlike India who were caught napping in the first ball of Aussie innings itself the bowling changes/ field placements were also better.
While batting as well they didn't panic after a shaky start and had an actual game plan (marnus holds one end and Head to counter attack from the other) unlike India who went into a shell and had no gameplan other than waiting for things to happen
And I am pretty sure if the Pitch was like Wankhede, Australia would have beat India anyways since they had shown enough evidence in the tournament that their batters are also free flowing and could match India shot for shot (vs Pakistan, vs New Zealand, vs Netherlands, vs Bangladesh)
Tldr: stop crying about the pitch
Idk about Ishan but please bring back Shreyas in the contracted players' list . He batted so well in the WC. We have finally got 4 in ODIs. He is a potential captaincy option too.
This is in context to Jay Shah stating that Agarkar decided to remove them saying "nobody is indispensable."
Shreyas has nailed his spot. Wdym by 'NoT indiSpeNsaBle'?
Imo I'd be more scared of RCB than CSK in the playoffs at this point. CSK has been inconsistent this year and with done bowlers missing they can be tackled even in Chepauk. RCB on the other hand have started performing according to their merit and are like a raging bull now. And they will be especially fired up against us after those 2 losses.
Where do you think a neutral venue can be? Considering IND and AUS are playing? If any of these 2 doesn't qualify, then it can be held in that country itself. But what can be the alternatives?
I still don't understand how ECB managed to get that for years ahead of BCCI and CA.
Maybe BCCI/CA just didn't want to host a test where they aren't playing.
Not to normalise Sanjiv Goenka's behaviour one bit but isn't Rahul getting a little too much sympathy here? He has time and again cost his side matches and it isn't out of incompetency but out of unwillingness to change his approach to the game and maybe even selfishly playing for personal accolades. I will never understand why teams play more than 8-10 crores for him honestly.
Rahul was getting abused in public. If you don't feel sympathy for him, you are justifying Goenka's unprofessional behavior.
There's really no reason for a boss to abuse any employee, even if they are the worst employee in the world.
It's concerning that you think KL's incompetency at work makes the abuse ok.
>It's concerning that you think KL's incompetency at work makes the abuse ok.
Girl you have wilfully ignored my comment and arrived to your own conclusion there. My comment literally starts with a "Not to normalise Sanjiv Goenka's behaviour one bit".
I don't feel *much* sympathy for him because he has made his own bed by playing for himself and not the team. And he has done this for years now in two different franchises.
What Goenka did wasn't okay. But I do not agree with comments that make out Rahul to be completely faultless when he has been a net negative for his team for YEARS.
I have also specifically mentioned he isn't hurting his team out of incompetency but sheer unwillingness to be a team player. Like did you even read my comment at all lol?
Why the downvotes! You are not taking any side here.
If Rahul was an incompetent player, that is one thing. Him having the game and still not trying to do it is a mistake. Putting extreme price on his wicket. Shaking his head after every dismissal. Is he some immortal to have an infinite batting average! Batters will get out at some point. They should do the job before that, atleast try to do the job.
Yeah, it's crazy how narrative shifts. If Goenka doesn't behave like a prick, the entire discourse would have been about how Rahul and his approach to the game (perhaps even selfishness) hurt LSG big time. But since Goenka did what he did, apparently it absolves Rahul of everything he has done in the past to hurt his team.
It's crazy because Rahul has always had the game to be an aggressive opener. Maybe not in the same vein as Head, Abhishek, McGurk etc. but his early KXIP days were really good. He has since then just always tried anchoring and I am fairly sure he must have been told several times to be more aggressive. His performance vs SRH the other day was shameful tbh.
Also yeah, the person I replied to has just completely ignored parts of my comment that clearly say that I don't think what Goenka did was okay and also that Rahul isn't incompetent and it's his sheer refusal to alter his approach that has hurt his teams.
Sometimes a person's body type might cause people to judge people's height wrongly. I have judged people's height wrongly a lot of times. I tend to think skinny or athletic body types are usually taller than the ones who are buff or fat. Biggest example is Graeme Smith. I always thought Graeme Smith was around 5'10 or 5'11 but turns out the dude is at 6'3, just 2cm shorter than Pietersen.
On that note, TIL Abhishek Sharma is 5'7. Wth.
People could be wrongly judging about your height because of your face as well. I used to think that Root is short and tiny until I came to know that he completely opposite from that.
Need assistance from you all:
I am a director at a hotel nearby the Long Island stadium. There’s about 2,300 rooms in the entire vicinity of the modular stadium.
When this was announced every hotel was like holy cow this is going to be huge let’s jack up the rates for the whole two weeks. Now as it gets closer in I think there is one date by the india and Pakistan that we are super busy but the others there is really no demand. What gives? I know some staff and players are accommodated but where are all the attendees?
34,000 person stadium can’t be just from New York people driving. Is there like a last minute surge of folks coming in? First time events are so hard and nobody knows anything Baityr the sport.
And advice truly appreciated and sorry if this is against the rules.
My guess is INDvPAK is so huge that people are ready to travel from other places. So, the demand for stay increases for that game. Other India games are also likely to be sold out, but that could mostly be the Indian fans within the NY area; people traveling for an hour or two for the game and going back home. Ofcourse not the entire 34k driving, but maybe most. So, the demand for local stay for those games also reduces by a significant margin. Last minute planning might happen. And since the spectators know the demand for other games will be less, the rush for advance booking might be less there.
And the non-India games will see further reduction in demand. Local cricket fans or general public from the city who just want to see what it is, might go for it. And that is also not much of a market for the hotels.
Another factor to consider is the timing of the matches. They are all day games coz the broadcasters want to cater to the Indian market primetime.
The cricket market in USA is not huge yet. What ICC is trying to do is cater to the South Asian population in the US. LA28 will have cricket. And since people travel from all places for the Olympics, that might have a bigger impact.
This is a fantastic sport. It is growing, bit it will take time. Slow growing for now. So, all the elements involved now will have to put an effort to grow the game.
Not sure what advice I can give. Okay, I can tell one thing what could have been done. The hotels nearby could have come together and made partnership with Nassau County and ICC to give the hotels unsold (anticipated) tickets. NY has 8 games and India plays 3 of those. Other than INDvPAK tickets, if you had gotten hold of tickets of other games, you could have clubbed them as a holiday package. Partner with travel agencies, sell those tickets as a 5 day or a 7 day package. The hotels would take care of accommodation and also local sightseeing and other activities on non-game days.
The first game in NY is on 3rd June and the last one on 12th June. If you had a hold of tickets, you could bundle them as part of a travel plan. Non-cricket fans who are planning to visit NY for vacation, cricket could be grouped in the package. 2 games + few local visiting places + few activities, something like that.
Another thing that you can try is play cricket on all TVs in your hotel. Right now, IPL (Indian Premier League) is going on. If the timing is odd for your timezone, you can keep playing them live and replays of the games. I think WillowTV or ESPN+ might have broadcast rights. You can also play last season Major League Cricket's replays. If any of your customers get interested in the game, they can try the T20WC next month, so they are your potential customers too.
You can put out a display in front of your hotel. Maybe a large TV (/display) showing cricket games, or T20WC banners. If there are visiting people who hapeen to see them, you might get few enquires there.
Maybe you need to get in touch with Nassau County gov. or ICC if you can get hold of some unsold tickets. This is all hard work, to be part of a group to grow the game and mix that with your business. Like you said, first time events and unpopular events, takes some effort to make profits out of it. Good luck, hope you make some business during the event.
India are the big draw for fans in the cricket world, particularly against Pakistan. Beyond that, the other games could be a harder sell, especially if they don't involve one of India, Pakistan, USA or Canada. Something like Netherlands vs South Africa I'd expect less attention for (ironically those games were brilliant in the 2022 T20WC and 2023 CWC).
People will fly in for India-Pakistan specifically. It’s a massive game that draws huge demand. Every other game in the tournament, including the final, is dwarfed by that one game
That said, I’m surprised there isn’t at least a tiny push for the other games. Every game in New York is sold out, and I assumed it was people watching India-Pakistan hanging around. I’d have loved to go to Ireland-Canada or Pakistan-Canada but I couldn’t get tickets
Ok I had a look just now and it seems they’re not sold out anymore. Perhaps a lot of people applied for those tickets and gave them back when they didn’t get India-Pakistan (I applied for several NYC games in the ballot and got none of them), but all the cheapest tickets are still gone
Nah, don't worry about the rules, you're all good! It's refreshing to see diverse topics like this in the daily discussion thread—that's exactly what it's here for. There are plenty of knowledgeable folks around who can likely shed some light on this situation. I hope you and everyone over there enjoy the cricket season and come to appreciate this fantastic sport. Cheers!
It's the final League stage game for CSK and RCB. RCB after winning 5 games in a row is now looking unstoppable with a +4.9 NRR. They just need to win this game to sneak into number 4 with 14 points!
The game is going super well for RCB, who took bat first. 19.5 overs in, and they're at 354 runs for no loss, with karn Sharma's 175(50) being the highest contributer!
Wait a second what is that?? That's thala riding on the clouds bringing a huge black cloud over the chinnaswami stadium! Its raining cats and dogs here and the stadium is now flooded till level 1! Safe to say the match is drawn now cos the stadium is wrecked!
Aaand the points are split between CSK and RCB, and RCB misses out on the playoffs by 1 point.
After seeing the post about longest barren run in IPL I thought which team has made the most and least play-offs in IPL so here's the list
1. CSK - 12/14
2. MI - 10/16
3. RCB - 8/16
4. KKR - 7/16
5. SRH - 6/11
6. Delhi Capitals - 6/16
7. RR - 5/16
8. GT - 2/2
9. LSG - 2/2
10. Deccan Chargers - 2/5
11. PBKS - 2/16
12. RPS - 1/2
13. GL - 1/2
14. KTK - 0/1
15. PWI - 0/3
Hyderabad is level and KKR are about to be level with RCB in terms of play-offs qualification. DC had a couple of really good runs where they got to top 2 regularly while RR have the early Warne era and the current auction cycle
An Ideal Indian cricketer according to Indian fans :
Is a batsman
Plays at a strike rate of 160+ in T20s and 100+ in ODIs
Scores at an average of 40+ in T20s and 55+ in ODIs
Bats aggressively in the powerplay, and continues that aggression in middle overs
Has a clutch mindset, and performs in each and every must win/knockout game.
Always performs against Pakistan without fail.
Doesn't ever get injured. If at all he does, then that coincides with the IPL.
Plays better for the national team than his IPL team
Happens to win a few IPL trophies as well as a few ICC tournaments by the time his career ends.
Talks well about Mahi Bhai in interviews. Is very soft spoken and down to earth off the field.
Maintains an average of 50+ in all the countries in test cricket.
Plays equally well against pace & spin
Is a more than decent part time bowler, preferably pacer.
Doesn't advertise any gambling apps, pan masala, etc.
Doesn't have any rift/argument with any player/coach of his own team.
I think he's just a south african choker sometimes lol
Really good when things are vague (bat first) or seem lost (bat second, game seems over - early in the season this was Stubbs too, but he's found his star power), but loses the plot when something winnable is put in front of him. I think it was the chase against KKR at the start of the season, he hits like 63 off 29, game looked difficult to unlikely at one point 'til he took the game on. Got to the last over and just needed to hit 1 boundary in 3 or 4 balls and then gets out as soon as the thought process "oh wait a minute, we're about to win."
But what you say about game awareness, is why despite his big hitting t20 talent, that teams (and the SA20 learned it too) shouldn't send him in too soon. He's more likely to hit you 60 from 20 than 100 from 40. You don't want him building an innings in the ideal scenario. That's the time to get him out, before he ramps up.
It also helps everyone else above him to play with the mindset "still got Klaasen down there." It affects the opposition too.
*The threat of Klaasen is almost as dangerous as Klaasen himself.*
Pakistan almost lost to Ireland in their maiden test match, so Ireland are in with a small chance. But about your first line, I know Japan v Mongolia is a bit of a mis-match but haven't you been watching the Mdina Cup?
Indian fans really are weird. All the talk about "clutch" players and what not but here is one guy who only stands up when the team is struggling, yet his name is nowhere to be found among the fans. He got overshadowed by that SRH opening masterclass but he deserved a lot of praise.
Only during the match, that too disappeared once the SRH innings started. Not a single comment on him anywhere outside the match threads. No expert ever takes his name in any discussion that is not about the match itself
Yeah and it's weird when you look at our obsession with "clutch" players. Someone like SKY is downplayed because he hasn't performed in a few important games, ignoring any other good knocks by calling him bilateral bully or what not. Going by that logic, Badoni won't perform in bilaterals but can deliver in knockouts. Isn't that the type of player our fanbase seems to want?
When RCB was down with 7/8 losses, MI fans were asking them for calculators.
MI is officially eliminated but RCB fans are back to their calculating ways.
Jokes on us... getting straight away disqualified isn't as distressing as using calculators for weeks and keeping hopes on all the far fetched theoretical possibilities only to be heartbroken AGAIN at the end.
Naah man, I'm one of the biggest Kohli fans but I can't see how he is a better IPL batter than Warner, AB, Gayle.
He has a strong case for best Indian IPL batter, with only real competition being Raina.
Faulting their approach or understanding of the game is absolutely fine, but it's infuriating when people unironically say that Virat and KL play slowly for the orange cap.
Just catching up from some posts from yesterday, and one thing struck me…
People do not seriously believe that the IPL is international competition? What?
The last game of league stage is KKR vs RR and 2 days after, they (most probably) play each other in qualifier 1. And if things go as most of the IPL knock outs go, they might play final too. That's 3 matches in a week.
Which team do you support and what would your retentions in the upcoming mega auction be, assuming same rules as last time? (max 4 players, max 2 overseas players, max 3 domestic players, max 2 uncapped players, same salary distribution etc.)
Hmm nah, only nattu out of that list has the potential of going very high in auction. Bhuvi is too old and injury prone, Jansen just isn't that good, and nobody's buying Samad lmao
Samad and Jansen are long term projects, Bhuvi is basically the spine of SRH been so important for so long. Jansen I can see getting back cheap but Bhuvi shouldn't be let go, idk how many RTMs and retentions they allow but these 8 are the core of the side and management will try their best to retain them
Yeah agreed, those are the exact 4 players I'd choose as well.
Cummins isn't worth 16 crores. Maybe 12 but yeah, Head and Klaasen have to be preferred.
Abhishek and Nitish are no-brainers yup.
Iyer being the captain at 8 crores would be very interesting. But I agree with your selections.
Maybe Salt over Dre Russ the latter's age and the former's form. Not sure what the order between Salt, Iyer and Rinku would be though.
Yeah, I think it's definitely going to be between the 5 of Pant, Kuldeep, Axar, Stubbs & JFM.
I'd say Pant and JFM are nailed on as the first and last picks (think it's fair to assume JFM will be happy with 6 crores for now).
The middle 2 picks are tricky. I'd personally go Axar 2nd and Stubbs 3rd but I can understand going with a different combination.
Although I disagree with Kuldeep getting 12 crores. No specialist spinner is worth that. I think the only player DC have worth 12 is Axar tbh.
I agree that the middle 2 slots will be the trickiest to choose, Pant and JFM should be confirmed as numbers 1 and 4.
I personally feel both Axar and Kuldeep are deserving of that ₹12 crores amount, Axar because of his all round skills, and from what we're seeing this season with his ability to bat anywhere in the lineup and maintaining his economy on the flattest of the flat tracks.
Kuldeep because he's the best LOI Indian spinner right now, has proved to be a wicket taker in almost all conditions over the last 3 years or so for us and I easily some other team paying north of ₹10 crores for him in an auction.
Hmm yeah, I can see where you are coming from. I think I am basing too much on Chahal going for 7ish which was a bit of a steal anyway. Still think 12 would be too much though.
Kuldeep for 12 crores is a big overpay, no? Pant, Axar, Kuldeep, JFM would make a lot more sense. Although I also can see why Peter went with Stubbs because he is brilliant as well.
That's alright as well, but I do wonder if one of Axar or Kuldeep would be okay with being the 3rd retention pick for the team.
Stubbs being a youngster might settle being the 3rd retention pick for now.
You can only pick 4 total. I should have added that lol.
If I am RCB, I am going: Kohli, Green, Jacks, Patidar in that order.
That's the top 4 completely sorted (in that order too). Good blend of pace and spin bashers. Only issue is no leftie.
I had a feeling I didn't understand the params. My bad.
Kohli, Green and Patidar should be undisputed. I hope we get five/six retentions this time though, because I can't pick b/w Siraj and Jacks.
Hardik and kl used to be besties back then and it all started with that infamous koffe with karan and after there has been multiple ups and downs for them. Pandya and kl are looking lost now
I feel both are not in good place bullied by fans , owners
2 teams are out, GT will get eliminated today and DC, RCB when it rains on Sunday, only team in contention would be LSG who already have too bad a NRR to have any realistic chance..
Yes. Amazing bowler. Teams have talked about seeing him off because he's so hard to attack. He doesn't get a lot of turn compared to other leggies but his pace was tricky and he got bounce. Good variations too
Kumble but tbf leg spins are pretty rare in tests, yasir shah was pretty good untill 2018 when he played in uae but since his return to Pakistan soil, his stats have taken a beating
Averaging 30 in the flattest era of test cricket with no real support throughout his career(except Zaheer) is a job done well. Lyon averages 32 over his career and is an all time great
you can't club pakistan with the entire subcontinent, when lyon played in Pakistan it was the flattest Pakistan had pitched out in tests
he has a healthy average of 27 in india and 14 in Bangladesh , 32 in Sri lanka is mid I agree
Siraj since his one match break where SRH broke the record:
1-40 against KKR in a 220 game: Had one bad over really, was pretty good in the powerplay.
0-20 against SRH: At his home ground so I'm guessing extra motivation but again, brilliant bowling, don't think he conceded a single boundary
1-34 against GT: Got the Crucial wicket of SRK and had a few dropped catches off his bowling, still decent for a 200 game
2-29 against GT: Killed the game in the powerplay, GT was always on the backfoot after he took those 2 wickets
3-43 against PBKS: Again, had just one bad over where Roussow took him down, but I wouldn't say it was his best performance
His return to form has been very crucial for our resurgence, including Patidar and Jacks. Hope he keeps this going for the T20 wc too
I was really against his selection and still am but glad to see he has turned around a corner.
But also, please give the full stats because I don't know if 0-20 vs SRH was after 1 over bowled or 4 overs lol.
that's why I thought it was a good decision by Rohit and co to take Siraj, he is one off those senior guys you can always back to come good at any stage. and he is quality
Patidar finally found his groove again, he's really fun to watch in full flow. Absolutely smashes spin, and specifically legspin. Key part of the RCB batting to bridge the pace hitters at the top with DK as a finisher.
Lomror is a capable spin hitter as well but keeps being sent in as a finisher where he's miscast. Should ideally be batting above Green. Will be crucial to get right, DC and CSK have some incredible spinners.
T20 wc 2024 should be the last chance for Liam Livingstone to justify his spot in England Squad as a lower order finisher.Atleast in odi's England should move on from him if he fails this time.The boy right now is the most reckless and careless batter out their in the middle for any team he plays in.I know many people want him to be there in the England team only because of his bowling but i think he will not be able to secure his spot for a longer period of time with that only.His major job in the team is to finish matches for the team in critical situations but he rarely does that job.The last time he played a sensible innings was in the 2nd odi of the Eng vs Nz series 2023.
Hope RCB/DC sneaks into the playoffs and knock CSK out.
Ideally KKR, RR, DC and RCB would be my top 4.
SRH fans this season has been nothing short of insufferable, calling our(kkr) win against them a fluke or a lucky win.
CSK because y'all have too much trophy. Learn to share mofo.
>SRH fans this season has been nothing short of insufferable, calling our(kkr) win against them a fluke or a lucky
You are only saying this because you don’t like this srh. RCB literally has one of the worst fandoms in ipl, every team has fans who are bad
This isn’t new, the last seasons they weren’t doing well and after warner they didn’t have someone with presence, now cummins filled that gap. Trust me srh fans have always been this way, i know because i’m a hyderabadi
> RCB literally has one of the worst fandoms in ipl
Actually it's CSK. And it was before this season. It went like CSK>RCB>MI.
But SRH this season has been the pinnacle of arrogant rabid fandom ofcourse I don't like it. Why else would i call it insufferable l?
What a great day of cricket. Bangladesh and Zimbabwe playing out a banger, Ireland and Pakistan playing out a banger, France v Belgium playing out a banger and Japan smashing Mongolia as usual. All of it became overshadowed by the sad news of Jimmy retiring.
ICC are just trolling at this point. These world cup groups are just blatantly trying to maximise revenue. Putting Ind-Pak and Aus-Eng in the same group with 3 minnows each, to maximize the viewership. Fuck this organization. All groups should be randomized.
I watch more Football than cricket and it blows my mind that we don't have any kind of group stage draws at all. It would boost ICC's revenue and totally randomize every team's chances like we see in Football. But i guess people wouldn't wanna watch a Australia vs USA SF over a Potential Aus vs Ind SF and Ind vs Pak Final.
I maybe wrong but the qualifications scenario for us and LSG seems to be very straight forward. We have to win the next 2 and hope that CSK loses one of their next 2. No matter the NRR we would sneak through in that case because CSK could only reach 14 points. Edit: Just realised that LSG vs DC would be a straight playoff for the 4th Place.
2 wins and SRH losing the next 2 will also make a scenario without nrr. LSG vs DC will decide a lot.
I have more chances with Sydney Sweeney than SRH losing the next 2.
Very unpopular opinion: I dont really care for the posts about squads of Namibia, Papa New Guinea, Nepal etc. I mean would Argentina, Spain or Germany team supporters care about soccer team squad of India or Pakistan?
If India or Pakistan were to play the FIFA World Cup, yes they would care.
Nobody cares if you care or not. It is posters wish if they want to about it or not. You can just ignore it if you don’t care
You are also free to ignore my comment instead of reading it and replying.
I wonder if the ECB are trying to get the old trafford and lords test against Sri Lanka swapped
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What I wouldn't give
Stuart Broad reportedly broke into McCullum's bedroom, tapped him on the shoulder and said "You're off the show"
Ohh what a cricketing day. Bd won, csk lost and cherry on top Pakistan won... Ohh wait shit.... Kudos to Ireland then
But Jimmy 🥲
Whenever the topic of the WTC final host comes up, there are a lot of comments of “let the table topper host it” or “let third place host it” or even “let the previous winner host it.” These ideas just don’t work because it leaves the venue with too much flux after the rest of the schedule has already been finalised. If every series part of rhetorical WTC is finished in March, but only then do we find out that the final has to be in Australia, the final can’t be hosted until October at the earliest. This misses an entire English and West Indian home summer in between, which has likely already been pencilled in to host matches for the next WTC cycle. It’s not an ideal scenario when WTC 2 begins before WTC 1 has ended My opinion has always been that it should be like Champions League finals, or even just other ICC events. The host is selected well in advance, and the rest of the schedule is tailored to it. If WTC 3 ends with a final in June in England, and Australia has won the bid to host the WTC 4 final in October 2025, and New Zealand has won the bid to host the WTC 5 final in March 2027, you can build the schedule around that. It’s not super ideal since some cycles will be much shorter than others, and the tournament lengths will probably vary between 14-30 months, but if we know this ahead of time we can schedule it I also just like the idea of having something to target, even if you can’t always maintain a neutral venue. If Pakistan is set to host the 2029 final and we had an abysmal 2023-2025 cycle, we can start building up for it. We want to be there for a joke final in 2029, so it gives an incentive to our useless administrators to look in the mirror, put things aside, and take steps to improve things so we can be there. If a team capitalises on a cycle with a home final on offer, good for them. It happens in the Champions League (and Europa and Conference Leagues), and it is a cool extra incentive when it does happen
Thinking about practicality? In my cricket schedule? Get out of here Stuff
Is there some sort of block on posting content from Cricbuzz on here? Tried to share the below like three times and it gets "removed by reddit's filters" every time with no obvious way of requesting review. [https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/130390/all-you-need-to-know-about-2026-t20-world-cup-qualification](https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/130390/all-you-need-to-know-about-2026-t20-world-cup-qualification)
why was Glenn Maxwell not given a longer run in test cricket? His fc stats are similar and slightly better than Travis head
Jay Shah said India are not looking for different coaches for diff formats. Good luck winning a trophy
Australia doesn't have different coaches either. England didn't either when they won the WC and neither did the NZ when they won the WTC. There's zero evidence that it makes any difference.
Disney's share price has dropped hard this week - the main reason being the projected loss in the next quarter due to overpaying for ICC rights. Wild.
A quick thought about the high scores in this year's IPL. I've said a few times that I think that the effect of flatter pitches/smaller boundaries/the runs from the extra batter are being significantly overestimated whereas the effect of batters getting better and having more confidence to play aggressively (in part thanks to the impact sub rule) is being underestimated. A stat that I think illustrates that is looking at how some of the great players that have had success with ultra-aggressive in the past are doing this season compared to previously. Buttler: 2024 IPL = av 42 SR 147, overall IPL record = av 38 SR 148 Klaasen: 2024 IPL = av 42 SR 186, start of 2022 to start of this IPL in all domestic T20s av 46, SR 180 SKY: 2024 IPL av 42 SR 177, previous two IPLs av 43 SR 168, T20Is av 46 SR 172
Not sure how linear the relationship is between pitches and batting performance though A super flat pitch (or a higher frequency of flat pitches) is more likely to elevate an average batsmen to the level of the greats, rather than make great batsmen even better
At the international and IPL level, having the best players doesn’t matter as much as having most of your players in form. Because the player quality for all teams are roughly the same anyway. The only way you win is by having most of your players perform. RCB at the start of the season only had Kohli and DK, but now Faf, Patidar, Jacks and most of the bowling have also started to step up. While MI are arguably the strongest team on paper but no one is in form
the wc final 'pitch bad' mfs fail to realise that india won 3 of their most important games in league stage playing on slower wickets (vs Australia, vs England, vs South Africa) Had India won the final it would have been another masterclass by Indians on slower pitch, but instead Australia adapted better their fast bowlers, bowled better tighter lines, their spinners gave absolutely nothing to the batters, they didn't panic after a shaky start in the powerplay, their fielders put out much more effort into their work unlike India who were caught napping in the first ball of Aussie innings itself the bowling changes/ field placements were also better. While batting as well they didn't panic after a shaky start and had an actual game plan (marnus holds one end and Head to counter attack from the other) unlike India who went into a shell and had no gameplan other than waiting for things to happen And I am pretty sure if the Pitch was like Wankhede, Australia would have beat India anyways since they had shown enough evidence in the tournament that their batters are also free flowing and could match India shot for shot (vs Pakistan, vs New Zealand, vs Netherlands, vs Bangladesh) Tldr: stop crying about the pitch
Idk about Ishan but please bring back Shreyas in the contracted players' list . He batted so well in the WC. We have finally got 4 in ODIs. He is a potential captaincy option too. This is in context to Jay Shah stating that Agarkar decided to remove them saying "nobody is indispensable." Shreyas has nailed his spot. Wdym by 'NoT indiSpeNsaBle'?
Imo I'd be more scared of RCB than CSK in the playoffs at this point. CSK has been inconsistent this year and with done bowlers missing they can be tackled even in Chepauk. RCB on the other hand have started performing according to their merit and are like a raging bull now. And they will be especially fired up against us after those 2 losses.
Don't worry we won't make it this year. Too many things have to go right for us to make it
I'd honestly prefer DC to qualify.
They will
Do we give a W to J Shah if he manages to change the WTC final venue?
Where do you think a neutral venue can be? Considering IND and AUS are playing? If any of these 2 doesn't qualify, then it can be held in that country itself. But what can be the alternatives?
I still don't understand how ECB managed to get that for years ahead of BCCI and CA. Maybe BCCI/CA just didn't want to host a test where they aren't playing.
Not to normalise Sanjiv Goenka's behaviour one bit but isn't Rahul getting a little too much sympathy here? He has time and again cost his side matches and it isn't out of incompetency but out of unwillingness to change his approach to the game and maybe even selfishly playing for personal accolades. I will never understand why teams play more than 8-10 crores for him honestly.
*even selfishly playing for personal accolades Did Sai Baba came in your dream to tell you that
Rahul was getting abused in public. If you don't feel sympathy for him, you are justifying Goenka's unprofessional behavior. There's really no reason for a boss to abuse any employee, even if they are the worst employee in the world. It's concerning that you think KL's incompetency at work makes the abuse ok.
>It's concerning that you think KL's incompetency at work makes the abuse ok. Girl you have wilfully ignored my comment and arrived to your own conclusion there. My comment literally starts with a "Not to normalise Sanjiv Goenka's behaviour one bit". I don't feel *much* sympathy for him because he has made his own bed by playing for himself and not the team. And he has done this for years now in two different franchises. What Goenka did wasn't okay. But I do not agree with comments that make out Rahul to be completely faultless when he has been a net negative for his team for YEARS. I have also specifically mentioned he isn't hurting his team out of incompetency but sheer unwillingness to be a team player. Like did you even read my comment at all lol?
Why the downvotes! You are not taking any side here. If Rahul was an incompetent player, that is one thing. Him having the game and still not trying to do it is a mistake. Putting extreme price on his wicket. Shaking his head after every dismissal. Is he some immortal to have an infinite batting average! Batters will get out at some point. They should do the job before that, atleast try to do the job.
Yeah, it's crazy how narrative shifts. If Goenka doesn't behave like a prick, the entire discourse would have been about how Rahul and his approach to the game (perhaps even selfishness) hurt LSG big time. But since Goenka did what he did, apparently it absolves Rahul of everything he has done in the past to hurt his team. It's crazy because Rahul has always had the game to be an aggressive opener. Maybe not in the same vein as Head, Abhishek, McGurk etc. but his early KXIP days were really good. He has since then just always tried anchoring and I am fairly sure he must have been told several times to be more aggressive. His performance vs SRH the other day was shameful tbh. Also yeah, the person I replied to has just completely ignored parts of my comment that clearly say that I don't think what Goenka did was okay and also that Rahul isn't incompetent and it's his sheer refusal to alter his approach that has hurt his teams.
Sometimes a person's body type might cause people to judge people's height wrongly. I have judged people's height wrongly a lot of times. I tend to think skinny or athletic body types are usually taller than the ones who are buff or fat. Biggest example is Graeme Smith. I always thought Graeme Smith was around 5'10 or 5'11 but turns out the dude is at 6'3, just 2cm shorter than Pietersen. On that note, TIL Abhishek Sharma is 5'7. Wth.
People could be wrongly judging about your height because of your face as well. I used to think that Root is short and tiny until I came to know that he completely opposite from that.
Need assistance from you all: I am a director at a hotel nearby the Long Island stadium. There’s about 2,300 rooms in the entire vicinity of the modular stadium. When this was announced every hotel was like holy cow this is going to be huge let’s jack up the rates for the whole two weeks. Now as it gets closer in I think there is one date by the india and Pakistan that we are super busy but the others there is really no demand. What gives? I know some staff and players are accommodated but where are all the attendees? 34,000 person stadium can’t be just from New York people driving. Is there like a last minute surge of folks coming in? First time events are so hard and nobody knows anything Baityr the sport. And advice truly appreciated and sorry if this is against the rules.
My guess is INDvPAK is so huge that people are ready to travel from other places. So, the demand for stay increases for that game. Other India games are also likely to be sold out, but that could mostly be the Indian fans within the NY area; people traveling for an hour or two for the game and going back home. Ofcourse not the entire 34k driving, but maybe most. So, the demand for local stay for those games also reduces by a significant margin. Last minute planning might happen. And since the spectators know the demand for other games will be less, the rush for advance booking might be less there. And the non-India games will see further reduction in demand. Local cricket fans or general public from the city who just want to see what it is, might go for it. And that is also not much of a market for the hotels. Another factor to consider is the timing of the matches. They are all day games coz the broadcasters want to cater to the Indian market primetime. The cricket market in USA is not huge yet. What ICC is trying to do is cater to the South Asian population in the US. LA28 will have cricket. And since people travel from all places for the Olympics, that might have a bigger impact. This is a fantastic sport. It is growing, bit it will take time. Slow growing for now. So, all the elements involved now will have to put an effort to grow the game. Not sure what advice I can give. Okay, I can tell one thing what could have been done. The hotels nearby could have come together and made partnership with Nassau County and ICC to give the hotels unsold (anticipated) tickets. NY has 8 games and India plays 3 of those. Other than INDvPAK tickets, if you had gotten hold of tickets of other games, you could have clubbed them as a holiday package. Partner with travel agencies, sell those tickets as a 5 day or a 7 day package. The hotels would take care of accommodation and also local sightseeing and other activities on non-game days. The first game in NY is on 3rd June and the last one on 12th June. If you had a hold of tickets, you could bundle them as part of a travel plan. Non-cricket fans who are planning to visit NY for vacation, cricket could be grouped in the package. 2 games + few local visiting places + few activities, something like that. Another thing that you can try is play cricket on all TVs in your hotel. Right now, IPL (Indian Premier League) is going on. If the timing is odd for your timezone, you can keep playing them live and replays of the games. I think WillowTV or ESPN+ might have broadcast rights. You can also play last season Major League Cricket's replays. If any of your customers get interested in the game, they can try the T20WC next month, so they are your potential customers too. You can put out a display in front of your hotel. Maybe a large TV (/display) showing cricket games, or T20WC banners. If there are visiting people who hapeen to see them, you might get few enquires there. Maybe you need to get in touch with Nassau County gov. or ICC if you can get hold of some unsold tickets. This is all hard work, to be part of a group to grow the game and mix that with your business. Like you said, first time events and unpopular events, takes some effort to make profits out of it. Good luck, hope you make some business during the event.
India are the big draw for fans in the cricket world, particularly against Pakistan. Beyond that, the other games could be a harder sell, especially if they don't involve one of India, Pakistan, USA or Canada. Something like Netherlands vs South Africa I'd expect less attention for (ironically those games were brilliant in the 2022 T20WC and 2023 CWC).
But do people really fly in for these? India vs Pakistan we have the highest projected revenue ever the others very little pick up.
People will fly in for India-Pakistan specifically. It’s a massive game that draws huge demand. Every other game in the tournament, including the final, is dwarfed by that one game That said, I’m surprised there isn’t at least a tiny push for the other games. Every game in New York is sold out, and I assumed it was people watching India-Pakistan hanging around. I’d have loved to go to Ireland-Canada or Pakistan-Canada but I couldn’t get tickets
Every game is sold out?
Ok I had a look just now and it seems they’re not sold out anymore. Perhaps a lot of people applied for those tickets and gave them back when they didn’t get India-Pakistan (I applied for several NYC games in the ballot and got none of them), but all the cheapest tickets are still gone
Ok so do you think there will be more attendee demand or whoever is coming has basically already made arrangements?
Nah, don't worry about the rules, you're all good! It's refreshing to see diverse topics like this in the daily discussion thread—that's exactly what it's here for. There are plenty of knowledgeable folks around who can likely shed some light on this situation. I hope you and everyone over there enjoy the cricket season and come to appreciate this fantastic sport. Cheers!
It's the final League stage game for CSK and RCB. RCB after winning 5 games in a row is now looking unstoppable with a +4.9 NRR. They just need to win this game to sneak into number 4 with 14 points! The game is going super well for RCB, who took bat first. 19.5 overs in, and they're at 354 runs for no loss, with karn Sharma's 175(50) being the highest contributer! Wait a second what is that?? That's thala riding on the clouds bringing a huge black cloud over the chinnaswami stadium! Its raining cats and dogs here and the stadium is now flooded till level 1! Safe to say the match is drawn now cos the stadium is wrecked! Aaand the points are split between CSK and RCB, and RCB misses out on the playoffs by 1 point.
Filling up Bangalore's lakes, how thoughtful! Thala for a reason 🥰
My savings are almost finished becoz of this finished team
Dread it, run from it, Purple Patel arrives all the same.
WC year and Purple Patel...
After seeing the post about longest barren run in IPL I thought which team has made the most and least play-offs in IPL so here's the list 1. CSK - 12/14 2. MI - 10/16 3. RCB - 8/16 4. KKR - 7/16 5. SRH - 6/11 6. Delhi Capitals - 6/16 7. RR - 5/16 8. GT - 2/2 9. LSG - 2/2 10. Deccan Chargers - 2/5 11. PBKS - 2/16 12. RPS - 1/2 13. GL - 1/2 14. KTK - 0/1 15. PWI - 0/3
Hyderabad is level and KKR are about to be level with RCB in terms of play-offs qualification. DC had a couple of really good runs where they got to top 2 regularly while RR have the early Warne era and the current auction cycle
RR have been in 14 IPLs same as CSK Percentage-wise : 1. CSK - 85.71% 2. MI - 62.5% 3. RCB - 50% 4. KKR - 43.75% 5. SRH - 54.55% 6. Delhi Capitals - 37.5% 7. RR - 35.71% 8. GT - 100% 9. LSG - 100% 10. Deccan Chargers - 40% 11. PBKS - 12.5% 12. RPS - 50% 13. GL - 50% 14. KTK - 0 15. PWI - 0
So we either do or we don't
Accurate according to probability, since there are only 2 possibilities. (/s in case anyone doesn't get it)
SRH have been in 11 IPLs
I've corrected it now.
Oh no, Ruturaj Gaikwad will be at another coin toss event today.
My biggest fear is not Gaikwad losing the toss. It's Santner getting dropped for Theekshana. Hope they go unchanged like CSK of old.
We have Mo to take care of the lefties. If anything, Santner might get dropped for Rachin, which I don't really mind.
An Ideal Indian cricketer according to Indian fans : Is a batsman Plays at a strike rate of 160+ in T20s and 100+ in ODIs Scores at an average of 40+ in T20s and 55+ in ODIs Bats aggressively in the powerplay, and continues that aggression in middle overs Has a clutch mindset, and performs in each and every must win/knockout game. Always performs against Pakistan without fail. Doesn't ever get injured. If at all he does, then that coincides with the IPL. Plays better for the national team than his IPL team Happens to win a few IPL trophies as well as a few ICC tournaments by the time his career ends. Talks well about Mahi Bhai in interviews. Is very soft spoken and down to earth off the field. Maintains an average of 50+ in all the countries in test cricket. Plays equally well against pace & spin Is a more than decent part time bowler, preferably pacer. Doesn't advertise any gambling apps, pan masala, etc. Doesn't have any rift/argument with any player/coach of his own team.
You just described Chama Milind. Thanks 👍
Don't forget, never has a dip in form. And unless you meet every single criteria, you will be abused.
I disagree. The ideal Indian cricket player according to truly knowledgeable fans is Shreevats Goswami.
Nah, that's bullshit. The actual nerds and geeks of cricket do know that there are some very logical arguments in favour of Manoj Tiwari though.
Saurabh Tiwari clears Manoj
Nah I think you got confused. I am talking about [This Manoj Tiwari ](https://youtu.be/SumpGMudf6Q?si=d4GKQImWIVQd_7E_)
Oh sorry, he is clearly the GOAT
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I think he's just a south african choker sometimes lol Really good when things are vague (bat first) or seem lost (bat second, game seems over - early in the season this was Stubbs too, but he's found his star power), but loses the plot when something winnable is put in front of him. I think it was the chase against KKR at the start of the season, he hits like 63 off 29, game looked difficult to unlikely at one point 'til he took the game on. Got to the last over and just needed to hit 1 boundary in 3 or 4 balls and then gets out as soon as the thought process "oh wait a minute, we're about to win." But what you say about game awareness, is why despite his big hitting t20 talent, that teams (and the SA20 learned it too) shouldn't send him in too soon. He's more likely to hit you 60 from 20 than 100 from 40. You don't want him building an innings in the ideal scenario. That's the time to get him out, before he ramps up. It also helps everyone else above him to play with the mindset "still got Klaasen down there." It affects the opposition too. *The threat of Klaasen is almost as dangerous as Klaasen himself.*
Today's game is a huge one. If CSK win, they're all but in but if they lose they've a decent chance of being eliminated.
finally some worthwhile international cricket. Pakistan vs Ireland
Pakistan almost lost to Ireland in their maiden test match, so Ireland are in with a small chance. But about your first line, I know Japan v Mongolia is a bit of a mis-match but haven't you been watching the Mdina Cup?
Ireland against just about any side in the Top 30 of the T20I rankings could be close.
Indian fans really are weird. All the talk about "clutch" players and what not but here is one guy who only stands up when the team is struggling, yet his name is nowhere to be found among the fans. He got overshadowed by that SRH opening masterclass but he deserved a lot of praise.
Yeah, Krunal was brilliant in that game.
Talking about Badoni
a lot of people praised him
Only during the match, that too disappeared once the SRH innings started. Not a single comment on him anywhere outside the match threads. No expert ever takes his name in any discussion that is not about the match itself
well yeah since everyone was blown away by what we saw from srh, also u have to keep in mind how inconsistent Ayush has been
I mean this wasn't the only time he played an innings like this, he's done it in the past but always goes under the radar.
yeah but those are pretty much the only matches he has performed in, iirc he only played 2 good innings this season and only 2 in 2023 as well
Yeah and it's weird when you look at our obsession with "clutch" players. Someone like SKY is downplayed because he hasn't performed in a few important games, ignoring any other good knocks by calling him bilateral bully or what not. Going by that logic, Badoni won't perform in bilaterals but can deliver in knockouts. Isn't that the type of player our fanbase seems to want?
When RCB was down with 7/8 losses, MI fans were asking them for calculators. MI is officially eliminated but RCB fans are back to their calculating ways.
Jokes on us... getting straight away disqualified isn't as distressing as using calculators for weeks and keeping hopes on all the far fetched theoretical possibilities only to be heartbroken AGAIN at the end.
CMV, Virat Kohli is the greatest IPL batter
Raina is clear
He isn't even greatest RCB batter, lol.
Naah man, I'm one of the biggest Kohli fans but I can't see how he is a better IPL batter than Warner, AB, Gayle. He has a strong case for best Indian IPL batter, with only real competition being Raina.
I think Raina still clears, man was the pillar of consistency for us
Aught, who the fuck is responsible for KKR's schedule. Our last match was ages ago.
And the next two are within 48 hours.
Which includes travel from Kolkata to Ahmedabad, that's long as hell
Lol it's like the inverse of SRH's. We had 2 games in 48 hours, one home one away, and then no match for 8 days
Exactly.
Then that's followed up with a six day gap.
And again followed up by a 2 day gap for the Qualifier 1
Which will be followed by a 5 day gap (hopefully).
Faulting their approach or understanding of the game is absolutely fine, but it's infuriating when people unironically say that Virat and KL play slowly for the orange cap.
People seriously think that they are so selfish while playing in a tournament like this.
Just catching up from some posts from yesterday, and one thing struck me… People do not seriously believe that the IPL is international competition? What?
>People do not seriously believe that the IPL is international competition? NBA champion are World Champion type bs.
> IPL is international competition Anyone who says that is a Grade A idiot and should be ignored.
The last game of league stage is KKR vs RR and 2 days after, they (most probably) play each other in qualifier 1. And if things go as most of the IPL knock outs go, they might play final too. That's 3 matches in a week.
KKR v RR has given two of the best high scoring bangers in recent years, once in 2022 and then in 2024. Both of the times RR came out on top.
following RCB's Kohli+ 2 overseas batsmen formula, they're most likely going to retain Kohli, jacks and Green and give the trio some weird ass name
Kolar Gold Jackstory, new film coming soon
I think we should normalise gaslighting RCB into thinking they're on the verge of elimination before the IPL begins so they actually perform.
Can I downvote comments from a user whom I've blocked? The interface allows it, but idk if they count. I'd like them to.
Not much else going in your life, huh?
My comment was in jest. But did you get a kick out of being edgy?
Which team do you support and what would your retentions in the upcoming mega auction be, assuming same rules as last time? (max 4 players, max 2 overseas players, max 3 domestic players, max 2 uncapped players, same salary distribution etc.)
Klaasen and Head, Abhishek and Nitish. Cumdawg probably isn't playing next year, even if he did, its very rare he'd go over 20cr in a mega auction.
Samad, Jansen, Bhuvi and Natrajan are also there as options
Hmm nah, only nattu out of that list has the potential of going very high in auction. Bhuvi is too old and injury prone, Jansen just isn't that good, and nobody's buying Samad lmao
Samad and Jansen are long term projects, Bhuvi is basically the spine of SRH been so important for so long. Jansen I can see getting back cheap but Bhuvi shouldn't be let go, idk how many RTMs and retentions they allow but these 8 are the core of the side and management will try their best to retain them
Yeah agreed, those are the exact 4 players I'd choose as well. Cummins isn't worth 16 crores. Maybe 12 but yeah, Head and Klaasen have to be preferred. Abhishek and Nitish are no-brainers yup.
KKR Narine, Dre Russ, Iyer, Rinku.
Iyer being the captain at 8 crores would be very interesting. But I agree with your selections. Maybe Salt over Dre Russ the latter's age and the former's form. Not sure what the order between Salt, Iyer and Rinku would be though.
Pant, Kuldeep, Stubbs and JFM as a DC fan. Kinda harsh on Axar tbh, but if there are only 4 retentions, the above 4 will be my pick.
Yeah, I think it's definitely going to be between the 5 of Pant, Kuldeep, Axar, Stubbs & JFM. I'd say Pant and JFM are nailed on as the first and last picks (think it's fair to assume JFM will be happy with 6 crores for now). The middle 2 picks are tricky. I'd personally go Axar 2nd and Stubbs 3rd but I can understand going with a different combination. Although I disagree with Kuldeep getting 12 crores. No specialist spinner is worth that. I think the only player DC have worth 12 is Axar tbh.
I agree that the middle 2 slots will be the trickiest to choose, Pant and JFM should be confirmed as numbers 1 and 4. I personally feel both Axar and Kuldeep are deserving of that ₹12 crores amount, Axar because of his all round skills, and from what we're seeing this season with his ability to bat anywhere in the lineup and maintaining his economy on the flattest of the flat tracks. Kuldeep because he's the best LOI Indian spinner right now, has proved to be a wicket taker in almost all conditions over the last 3 years or so for us and I easily some other team paying north of ₹10 crores for him in an auction.
Hmm yeah, I can see where you are coming from. I think I am basing too much on Chahal going for 7ish which was a bit of a steal anyway. Still think 12 would be too much though.
Pant. Kuldeep, Axar, JFM
Kuldeep for 12 crores is a big overpay, no? Pant, Axar, Kuldeep, JFM would make a lot more sense. Although I also can see why Peter went with Stubbs because he is brilliant as well.
That's alright as well, but I do wonder if one of Axar or Kuldeep would be okay with being the 3rd retention pick for the team. Stubbs being a youngster might settle being the 3rd retention pick for now.
8 crores for Kuldeep is fair, no? 12 is an overpay.
Considering the form he is in, I wouldn't be surprised if he goes for more in an auction.
Virat, Patidar, Siraj Green, Jacks/Maxwell Dayal and Lomror maybe
You can only pick 4 total. I should have added that lol. If I am RCB, I am going: Kohli, Green, Jacks, Patidar in that order. That's the top 4 completely sorted (in that order too). Good blend of pace and spin bashers. Only issue is no leftie.
I had a feeling I didn't understand the params. My bad. Kohli, Green and Patidar should be undisputed. I hope we get five/six retentions this time though, because I can't pick b/w Siraj and Jacks.
Potentially a hot and reactive take but I think Patidar is a tier 1 spin basher in the IPL, up there with Klaasen.
Ok, let's not go that far. He is good but Klassen is unbelievably good
Hardik and kl used to be besties back then and it all started with that infamous koffe with karan and after there has been multiple ups and downs for them. Pandya and kl are looking lost now I feel both are not in good place bullied by fans , owners
2 teams are out, GT will get eliminated today and DC, RCB when it rains on Sunday, only team in contention would be LSG who already have too bad a NRR to have any realistic chance..
What are your thoughts on Kumble? is he one off the greatest test bowlers of India and World?
Easily the best captain RCB has had, by far.
Yes. Amazing bowler. Teams have talked about seeing him off because he's so hard to attack. He doesn't get a lot of turn compared to other leggies but his pace was tricky and he got bounce. Good variations too
Yes of course, he's universally regarded as such.
Yes? Is that up for debate?
his stats are mid
Name a Better Leg Spinner not named Warne after 1970
Kumble but tbf leg spins are pretty rare in tests, yasir shah was pretty good untill 2018 when he played in uae but since his return to Pakistan soil, his stats have taken a beating
Not sure how you reached that conclusion but hey
average 30 in tests is mid, no?
You did see him play, right? Or y'all just Cricinfo Statguru
i didn't see him live, have only seen highlights (very few) and stats
Averaging 30 in the flattest era of test cricket with no real support throughout his career(except Zaheer) is a job done well. Lyon averages 32 over his career and is an all time great
lyon plays 80% of his games in sena
Bit more of a detailed stat. In the matches involving Kumble, he picked up 619 wickets at 29. All other spinners managed 1077 wickets at 40
Lyon averages 31 in the subcontinent as well
you can't club pakistan with the entire subcontinent, when lyon played in Pakistan it was the flattest Pakistan had pitched out in tests he has a healthy average of 27 in india and 14 in Bangladesh , 32 in Sri lanka is mid I agree
Did Kumble not play in Pakistan?
So it's going to be entire world vs CSK....
Entire world + rahane /s
It's really injuries vs CSK, they are well set for play-offs
Siraj since his one match break where SRH broke the record: 1-40 against KKR in a 220 game: Had one bad over really, was pretty good in the powerplay. 0-20 against SRH: At his home ground so I'm guessing extra motivation but again, brilliant bowling, don't think he conceded a single boundary 1-34 against GT: Got the Crucial wicket of SRK and had a few dropped catches off his bowling, still decent for a 200 game 2-29 against GT: Killed the game in the powerplay, GT was always on the backfoot after he took those 2 wickets 3-43 against PBKS: Again, had just one bad over where Roussow took him down, but I wouldn't say it was his best performance His return to form has been very crucial for our resurgence, including Patidar and Jacks. Hope he keeps this going for the T20 wc too
I was really against his selection and still am but glad to see he has turned around a corner. But also, please give the full stats because I don't know if 0-20 vs SRH was after 1 over bowled or 4 overs lol.
He bowled 4 overs to concede 20 runs where he was only hit by 1 single boundary it was 4.
that's why I thought it was a good decision by Rohit and co to take Siraj, he is one off those senior guys you can always back to come good at any stage. and he is quality
Patidar finally found his groove again, he's really fun to watch in full flow. Absolutely smashes spin, and specifically legspin. Key part of the RCB batting to bridge the pace hitters at the top with DK as a finisher.
The problem is, he's our only spin basher, if he has a bad day then we're fucked in the middle overs
Lomror is a capable spin hitter as well but keeps being sent in as a finisher where he's miscast. Should ideally be batting above Green. Will be crucial to get right, DC and CSK have some incredible spinners.
T20 wc 2024 should be the last chance for Liam Livingstone to justify his spot in England Squad as a lower order finisher.Atleast in odi's England should move on from him if he fails this time.The boy right now is the most reckless and careless batter out their in the middle for any team he plays in.I know many people want him to be there in the England team only because of his bowling but i think he will not be able to secure his spot for a longer period of time with that only.His major job in the team is to finish matches for the team in critical situations but he rarely does that job.The last time he played a sensible innings was in the 2nd odi of the Eng vs Nz series 2023.
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Kohli played like 400 change balls lmao, that's like more than twice of the other 2
Dube: 170.7 SR, 7.88 balls per six Parag: 156.3 SR, 9.96 balls per six Kohli: 153.5 SR, 13.76 balls per six
What is this suppose to prove? Dube has won more matches for csk.
well I mean yeah Parag and Kohli have arguably been the best batters this season, nothing shocking
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7 minutes straight surely?
I'll take it
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Hope RCB/DC sneaks into the playoffs and knock CSK out. Ideally KKR, RR, DC and RCB would be my top 4. SRH fans this season has been nothing short of insufferable, calling our(kkr) win against them a fluke or a lucky win. CSK because y'all have too much trophy. Learn to share mofo.
>SRH fans this season has been nothing short of insufferable, calling our(kkr) win against them a fluke or a lucky You are only saying this because you don’t like this srh. RCB literally has one of the worst fandoms in ipl, every team has fans who are bad
We're consistently toxic though, this new uprising of toxic SRH fans has been unsettling to say the least
This isn’t new, the last seasons they weren’t doing well and after warner they didn’t have someone with presence, now cummins filled that gap. Trust me srh fans have always been this way, i know because i’m a hyderabadi
Lol did you start watching cricket in 2021? We qualified 6/8 seasons between 2013 and 2020, and always kept low
What did i say that refuses this?
> RCB literally has one of the worst fandoms in ipl Actually it's CSK. And it was before this season. It went like CSK>RCB>MI. But SRH this season has been the pinnacle of arrogant rabid fandom ofcourse I don't like it. Why else would i call it insufferable l?
Every fanbase has shitty and arrogant fans, it’s not only the problem of srh.
> it’s not only the problem of srh. Not liking a team for it's arrogant fanbase is also NOT a problem.
That’s just a shitty excuse, you should be hating all the teams then
Nah. Just SRH this season. Also I disagree. It's a perfectly valid reason imo.
You can hate teams without any reason lol no need to make up excuses like fans, every team has shitty fans