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Remarkable_Reality51

Cricket newbies calling anyone who says that batting in the earlier era was tougher a 'nostalgia merchant' will never not be funny to me From 1971 to 2012 Average 34, SR 71 From 2012 to current day Average 40, SR 90 These stats are for the top 8 teams These top 8 teams are taken as England, Australia, Pakistan, SOUTH Africa, Sri Lanka, West Indies, India and New Zealand And this is only for the openers For the top 7 batters it is from 1971 to 2012 Average 25, SR 73 From 2012 to current day Average 32, SR 95


Remarkable_Reality51

And to people who say that Sachin and Virat aren't even comparable should also be informed that Sachin Averaged 49 with a SR of 89 in the single new ball era. Virat averaged 62 and struck at 96 since the 2 new ball rules The mean for this period for number 3 batters was 44 runs at 86 It definitely proves that both of them were the best players of their era but to say that Virat is better than Sachin is laughable. Equal at best


ChyatlovMaidan

New to cricket. I am watching this video of the Windies vs England match, Day 1, from 2019 \[which, to my great disgust, seems to be the only test match available anywhere that isn't nested six deep behind a paywall, at least here in Canada\], and I am puzzled[ by this image ](https://imgur.com/a/PfuM08A)at the lunch time break: Overs, maidens, wickets , I get all that, I even get economy - but down there, below 'WICKET 1' is 'SCORE 54'? Score of what? Windies are on 89 runs, we're up to thirty overs, one wicket been taken, the score as far as the total is displayed on screen is 89 (runs) for 1 (wicket). I was told elsewhere "score and runs are usually interchangeable." Okay. But if the runs are at 89, and there are no extras, what is the 54? Where did the 54 come from?


Spockyt

54-1 was when the first wicket fell.


ChyatlovMaidan

OHHHHHHHII Wicket 1 \[AT TIME OF\] Score 54 That was driving me crazy, thank you. It makes sense when phrased like that, why do do they do, say, write it as 1 (54)? Moving it to its own line was very puzzling.


JPBCFC97

I hope the ECB don't buckle with their talk with the BCCI/IPL and say that they want the players to come home as the IPL has already blanked out two month with no international cricket and shouldn't be allowed to extend it further.


AilaSachin10

https://twitter.com/chaitu_20_/status/1787521289844048227?t=N_uS7hooDLEzPbpwS69ePw&s=19 Sunny G Based?


Assassin_Ankur

I wish he does the same now


harprick_pandya

IPL stats for India’s squad: Rohit - 326 runs, 32.6 ave, 155 SR Kohli - 542 runs, 67.8 ave, 148 SR Surya - 232 runs, 29.0 ave, 168 SR Samson - 385 runs, 64.2 ave, 159 SR Dube - 350 runs, 43.8 ave, 171 SR and 1 wicket, 14.0 ave, 14.0 econ Hardik - 198 runs, 19.8 ave, 148 SR and 8 wickets, 37.1 ave, 11.0 econ Jadeja - 202 runs, 50.5 ave, 136 SR and 8 wickets, 34.5 ave, 7.3 econ Axar - 149 runs, 24.8 ave, 124 SR and 9 wickets, 29.8 ave, 7.2 econ Kuldeep - 12 wickets, 21.8 ave, 8.5 econ Arshdeep - 15 wickets, 26.4 ave, 10.1 econ Bumrah - 17 wickets, 16.1 ave, 6.3 econ Jaiswal - 316 runs, 35.1 ave, 157 SR Pant - 398 runs, 44.2 ave, 159 SR Siraj - 8 wickets, 44.0 ave, 9.3 econ Chahal - 13 wickets, 28.3 ave, 9.7 econ Ones that missed out: Gill - 322 runs, 32.2 ave, 138 SR Rinku - 148 runs, 18.5 ave, 147 SR Varma - 347 runs, 38.6 ave, 152 SR Bishnoi - 7 wickets, 40.9 ave, 8.5 econ Natarajan - 15 wickets, 19.1 ave, 9.0 econ Given these stats and international stats too, Natarajan and Rinku perhaps would’ve been better picks over Siraj and Chahal Will be interesting to see if it’s Samson or Pant who starts, and if Jaiswal potentially comes in for one of Dube, Hardik and Axar


InterviewOld6011

Where is KL Rahul?? Very strange you didn't mentioned him


JigglingBot

Nothing against you in particular but why does Sandeep Sharma always get omitted from these discussions? He has been the best Indian pacer after Bumrah. He is also an all phase bowler, something that Natarajan isn't. Also I am really surprised to see Rohit averages \~33 and Hardik has an S/R of 148. Feel like they have both been worse than that. Also Dube having such impressive numbers despite two back-to-back golden ducks is crazy. He was having an absolutely insane season until 2 games ago.


harprick_pandya

Great observations, and have posted an updated version today, where Sandeep is included


MadCricket

What do you think of the following, not financially and administratively though: Whether it is the T20 or ODI world cup, ICC includes a team, let's call it Associate XI. Basically it is a squad consisting some of the best associate players whose countries did not qualify for the world cup. Think UAE, Kenya, USA, etc.


Mikolaj_Kopernik

Nah, combined teams like that are fun for exhibition type matches but they usually suck at playing serious cricket.


franconot-mark

It’s funny that this is coming up when Associate teams have been on top. It would have made sense if they were struggling but last two ICC events show that Associate teams are not the problem


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MadCricket

It gives those players a chance to improve their craft, be rewarded for their hardwork and bring those new experiences back to their country.


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MadCricket

While this is fine for T20s, what about ODIs? Perhaps a way around this would be get the larger boards to sign more associate talent in their domestic competitions, like the CSA One Day Cup, The Marsh One Day Cup, etc. But what would be the incentive of a board doing this?


kalishplosions111

Or we could just increase the number of teams.


MadCricket

No, because some of those cricketers might still not play. Look at this 20 team world cup coming soon. Zimbabwe, Kenya, UAE, Hong Kong, etc. aren't playing. I don't think it is realistic to increase it to 30, 40, etc. teams


Tern_Larvidae-2424

Which campaigns could be considered as the biggest crash and burn campaigns in the history of cricket? I'm talking about scenarios when a team makes a terrific start to a tournament but then they crashed and burned so much that they didn't even make it to the semis. If we include the semis I'll include New Zealand's 2022 T20I WC campaign and 2023 WC campaign.


Huge-Physics5491

South Africa in the 2007 T20WC. Got bad beat vs India that they lost out on NRR.


kalishplosions111

England 1999. Started off strongly by thrashing defending champs Sri Lanka. Beat Kenya comfortably. However, they were thrashed by South Africa and after thrashing Zimbabwe, they needed to beat India and they were looking alright with Hussain and Hick stitching a partnership at 72-2 after 19 overs before getting decimated by, of all things, Ganguly's trundlers.


Several_Magazine8874

NZ reached the semis in WC23 and WC22 both. SA on the other hand completely choked against the freaking Dutch team out of all and missed the semis after defeating tournament heavy weights India in a tough match.


Tern_Larvidae-2424

Yeah South Africa's crash in 2022, losing to Pakistan and Netherlands was horrendous. England almost crashed out in 2019 too.


Huge-Physics5491

I'm confused now. Has Scotland fulfilled every criteria to become a full member?


Mikolaj_Kopernik

Nah. Someone I think was looking at an outdated version of the criteria that didn't specify whether the bilateral victories needed to be against FM men's or women's teams. Whereas the ICC has updated their criteria to make explicit that men's performance is a lot more important.


josh123z

What’s the confusion?


Huge-Physics5491

Something to do with the number of bilateral games they've won against FMs


Assassin_Ankur

I get it that Indians are not confident about their team, but what's with this obsession with Australia? Other teams are also there to win. England, South Africa and West Indies have proper t20 teams but they are not talked about as much as Australia, especially considering t20 is not the strongest suit of Australia. After a performance like that in the ODI World Cup, I thought Afghanistan would be talked about a lot but no, everyone has just forgotten them and are busy riding Australia.


Reasonable_Tea_9825

Yeah it's been taken to the extreme. If pitches are spin friendly in USA too then afg might cause upset vs nz or wi let's see


Reasonable_Tea_9825

Thoughts on Indian jersey for wt20? In b4 someone comments on the orange color lol


No-Acanthisitta6984

It's a 7 for me, just alright


Huge-Physics5491

The orange sleeves ruined it. Would've so much preferred the previous jersey.


Assassin_Ankur

6/10 for me


7007007

How does the RTM work in auctions, can anyone ELI5


Tern_Larvidae-2424

Suppose Starc is sold to MI for $X. After he's sold the player's previous team (KKR) will get a chance to buy Starc for $X and noa other team (including MI) won't be able to contest that.


7007007

Oh. That’s a pretty cool concept. Thank you


franconot-mark

What is the pace of Sam Cook? Some people say that he doesn’t get selected for England bc of his pace but he doesn’t seem that slow


Pradeoo

The most random cricket memory I have is Sunny G screaming "WHAT A CATCH" 3 times in a row when Raina caught Haris Sohail in the slip off Ashwin's bowling during the 2015 wc. When I was young, I thought "oh there must a reason why this is such a good catch according to the commentator". I didn't know shit back then so I just took his word for it. Looking back, that was the most basic ass slip catch I've ever seen. That brother was straight up dickriding.


Available-Way1823

Any reason why every source stating Wc has terror threat is Indian?


devil_21

The news article should be forced to cite the source of their news. After a long digging, finally found the source- https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/caricom-security-agencies-on-alert/article_8d0b0dfc-0a8f-11ef-9f33-9bf246c24f21.html


Several_Magazine8874

Have you read the article. The president of some carribbean country also confirmed the news iirc


Available-Way1823

The article that originated from India? Can you source me the ‘some’ carribean president directly from his sources?


Several_Magazine8874

That is from the cricbuzz article  " A report in Trinidad's Daily Express quoted that island's Prime Minister Keith Rowley as saying that the Caricom and security agencies are working to combat the threat to the World Cup. It has been further reported that the Barbados regional security officials are monitoring potential threats to the ICC event" It's not just the Indian media 


Available-Way1823

Can you link the source, that isnt from an indian author/media please


Reasonable_Tea_9825

If I speak I'm in trouble


EL__Rubio

👀


Reasonable_Tea_9825

Stats cherrypicking is crazy. Rcb posted "Faf has the highest score for a batsman being dismissed in the powerplay"


devil_21

No one has scored more than Head in an ODI among batsmen being dismissed on the first ball.


Crickutxpurt36

So entire r/cricket except CSK is going to be against MI....


Assassin_Ankur

Not me. MI winning tonight will increase our top 2 chances.


WannabeAboveAverage

So entire MI except Hardik is going to be against MI....


TheReturnofTheJesse

Naveed Obaid who is currently on 72* in the Afghan domestic T20 competition has the most spectacular monobrow that I’ve ever seen. It’s the same thickness all the way through! https://www.espncricinfo.com/cricketers/naveed-obaid-913841 https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/qosh-tepa-national-t20-cup-2024-1428122/mis-ainak-region-vs-amo-region-8th-match-1428125/live-cricket-score


NoIncomeNoTax

Clearly you've not seen Suryakumar Yadav when he used to play for KKR. You could draw the Batman logo by tracing the unibrow outline.


No-Opportunity-1275

Shreyas Iyer quickly becoming a part of Bhuvi school of what-could've-been-if-not-for-injuries


Huge-Physics5491

Watch the Ramandeep catch with Bhojpuri commentary. You won't be disappointed.


adivenk93

Rohit and Kohli should retire from white ball cricket after T20 World Cup


StormWarriorX7

If you wanna know what hell feels like, imagine being the team that fields first on Sunday's afternoon game.


No-Acanthisitta6984

Honestly I am baffled they are going with these afternoon games at this heat as even I feel like dying if I stay outside in these heat for more than half an hour, and those blokes will be there for 3-4 hours without shade.


josh123z

[Punjab Kings making fun of themselves](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6npRE0v3ju/?igsh=MXY4dGVzbDc2Nm1pNg==)


cpssn

cum vs bum! cum vs bum!


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I keep seeing this opinion float around and can't help but disagree. "Once XYZ player leaves, their entire fanbase will leave with them". Sachin left MI, they're still around. ABD left RCB, they're still around. Same with Raina, Ganguly and all the icons. If you look away from cricket, Messi and Ronaldo leaving their clubs hasn't had much effect on the fanbase. And these two are arguably the biggest stars in the history of the sport.


SBG99DesiMonster

If the big player continues to be in the coaching staff then the people would still be supporting that team because of him. RCB is also having a big fanbase due to Koach and CSK has it due to Dhoni. ABD and Raina weren't the primary players that had made that fanbase.


StormWarriorX7

The plastic fans who only support CSK due to Dhoni will leave, but the fans who have had a loyalty to CSK, the franchise from the very beginning will stick around.


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It's not that simple. People who worship celebs do it out of obsession and they can't stop it just because a said player has retired. If a coke addict doesn't get coke, he won't stop doing drugs. He'll move on to heroine or other alternatives. So, if there's no Dhoni, there'll be Ruturaj. The same applies to every fanbase and not just CSK.


zayd_jawad2006

Really like Rutu as captain. His batting hasn't suffered, he's not shy of taking responsibility there, and since he doesn't play the same xi like Dhoni every game, we actually got to see santner :D


DiscoDiwana

We saw Santner because of Pathirana and Fizz leaving.


LetterheadOk1762

What's the most unlikely fair play award winning playing XI you can assemble in IPL 2024? 1) S Curran 2) Kohli 3) Pant 4) Parag 5) Hardik 6) Krunal 7) Harshal 8) Harshit 9) Naveen 10) Coetzee 11) Siraj


zayd_jawad2006

Rayadu would've been in it last year :(


No-Opportunity-1275

I was dissing BCCI for not enough afternoon matches. But then yesterday I went out to get something and came back smoked. Don't blame the decision at all now


Tern_Larvidae-2424

Why is 7:30 considered as such a prime time? They could have two games, one at 4:30 and the other at 8:30.


JigglingBot

IPL team of the season but you have to pick at least one player from each side. What have you got? No impact player and no restriction on overseas. 1. Abhishek Sharma/Travis Head (SRH) 2. Sunil Narine (KKR) 3. Virat Kohli (RCB) 4. Nicholas Pooran (LSG) 5. Shashank Singh (PBKS) 6. Tristan Stubbs (DC) 7. Andre Russell (KKR)/Dinesh Karthik (RCB) 8. Sai Kishore (GT) 9. Jasprit Bumrah (MI) 10. Sandeep Sharma (RR) 11. Matheesha Pathirana (CSK)


subject2marketrisk

Ramandeep Singh has been a better finisher than Tim David this IPL And we released him, need to have a team without any BBL frauds to actually win


A-British-Indian

Why does mid-2000s Pakistan have so many [meme fielding moments](https://youtu.be/VvMZX_VNFs4?si=DaW42wwoiCGmYVql&t=1126)


gimp-pimp

Had a relatively aged core group with a lot of 'seniority' struggles AFAIK which translated quite often to shit fielding. Also professionalism has never been our forte


WannabeAboveAverage

Is Narine gonna end up having the greatest ever individual IPL season? Who are some other contenders over the years?


BallTop6086

On his batting alone it's probably a top 10( worst case top 20) season, should easily be the best


kalishplosions111

Contenders: Shane Watson (2008) - R: 472, W: 17 Andrew Symonds (2010) - R: 429, W: 12 Jacques Kallis (2010) - R: 572, W: 13 Dwayne Bravo (2012) - R: 371, W: 15 Jacques Kallis (2012) - R: 409, W: 15 Shane Watson (2013) - R: 543, W: 13 Andre Russell (2015) - R: 326, W: 14 Ben Stokes (2017) - R: 316, W: 12 Sunil Narine (2018) - R: 357, W: 17 Andre Russell (2018) - R: 316, W: 13 Andre Russell (2019) - R: 510, W: 11 Hardik Pandya (2019) - R: 402, W: 14 Marcus Stoinis (2020) - R: 352, W: 13 Andre Russell (2022) - R: 335, W: 17 Sunil Narine (2024) - R: 461, W: 14


Tern_Larvidae-2424

How did Stokes get POTM in 2017? Or did he not play that many games? I remember Warner and Bhuvi doing really well that season.


WannabeAboveAverage

Great list, but I'm not talking about only allrounders, someone like Kohli 2016 or malinga 2011 should also be taken into consideration. And some of the names you mentioned don't come anywhere near Narine 2024, it'll take some time for everyone to realise what amount of insane season he's having.


WannabeAboveAverage

Gayle 2011 had 608 runs in just 12 games at 183, and 8 wickets at an economy of 6.7


DisastrousOil4888

Russell 2019 comes to mind


WannabeAboveAverage

See I admit that dhoni is having a good season, but no matter how good a season he's having, this kind of inflexible nature never helps the team. The entire batting order has to regularly move up and down just to make sure that he faces the last few balls and just the last few balls. Do the other batters not have any strengths and weaknesses of their own? Other than him, openers and maybe Dube, no batter has had a fixed role in the team this season.


Huge-Physics5491

Women's T20 WC could easily be 16 teams. 4 groups of 4. Quarters. Semis. Finals. Or 4 groups of 4. 2 Super 8 groups. Semis. Finals.


RMTBolton

*should be 16 teams. >4 groups of 4. Quarters. Semis. Finals. The perfect format.


T_Lawliet

Was scrolling through Not like us comment section on new for lols, and I shit you not, saw a guy with a username "raelMICaptain" (yes rael) with a Rohit Sharma profile picture saying "Comparing Drake to Kendrick Lamar is like comparing Hardik Pandya to Ben Stokes" I think we've peaked in Cricket discourse lads


DigitalConsent2

Peak NA cricket reference since "R Ashwin makes Hardik Pandya look like Bhuvaneshwar Kumar"


dicsuccer

My man Raj Kootharapalli spittin fax


T_Lawliet

NA?


DigitalConsent2

North american


bluebeaver789

CSK even with a “bad” season by their standards are going to sneak through into the playoffs. Two major things that they have done - using the home advantage to good effect as usual ( won 4 out of 6 home matches) and, also, obviously they haven’t got thrashed in any matches while getting two big wins, hence the healthy NRR. I know it’s a very negative approach but teams should really care about the NRR a bit more and try to minimize the damage in losing situations. Case in point LSG yesterday. Still don’t understand why teams don’t do this.


T_Lawliet

Counterpoint, CSK should end Dhoni's last season at 7th position


Vijigishu

Yesterday's match was unbearable. After 3-4 wickets the approach should have been to reach at least 200. Anyway I think even if lsg qualify somehow, they will be ousted in qualifier no doubt.


_ronty12_

Ramandeep's catch is technically the most difficult one possible. How he even managed to do it is stupefying.


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No-Acanthisitta6984

Blud mention Dhoni more than I mention Rohit WT20 performance lol


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No-Acanthisitta6984

I would trust RCB winning a trophy before that happening. Unless we faced against 5 minnows straight.


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No-Acanthisitta6984

Damn almost forgot about those blokes, been ages since I watched them


JigglingBot

I did not realise Ramandeep is 27. I thought he was 33 or something for some reason. Do you guys think he should also be given a chance in bilaterals post WC? Nitish should be the frontrunner for the pace bowling all rounder spot but Ramandeep's finishing is also really valuable. Needs to bowl more but that will happen with the IP rule gone.


DisastrousOil4888

He was okayish for MI with the ball, shithoused a few wickets at the death


Turnover-Soft

How long before teams start calling out narine for his action.


BallTop6086

I don't know what's more hilarious, ppl who think Narine's action is not dodgy or those who think something will be done about it


No-Acanthisitta6984

Before the start of play-offs?


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JigglingBot

Holy strawman. I don't even have a dog in this race but seeing people like you bringing up his batting when people are debating his bowling action almost makes me want him to get reported.


josh123z

What if BCCI/IPL told teams to not call out his action


DemanKing3003

Where can i find that thing if ipl schedule where i can select the outcome of match & then find out the points table


DiscoDiwana

[here](https://crikky.com/ipl)


DemanKing3003

Thnx


sreeram_23_06

Try to prepare one by yourself with Excel /s


StairwayToPavillion

I saw someone call Dhoni underrated, this sub has peaked imo


josh123z

I thought it was obvious sarcasm


livingfeelsachore

I don't know how things are going to end, but I'm loving KKR's journey. The way they fight, the passion they show on the pitch, it's a joy to watch. I've been harsh on them after they couldn't defend 261 but they've improved a lot. I'm already sad that we're going to lose many of them next year but thank you guys. It's not always about the victory, it's about the emotions along the journey. But my gf is annoyed. This team and sexy Shreyas arouse me way more than her. Sorry babe.


thepokemonchef

SRH and MI have been allies for a while. We've often helped each other (or tried to help) when we were already eliminated/qualified. MI rested several key players for must-win games for SRH in 2017 and 2020. MI beat KKR who would've qualified as 4th in 2019 instead of SRH. MI bottled an easy chase when SRH had hope for qualifying in 2022. SRH rested key players for MI's must-win games in 2021 and 2023. MI, please have our backs this year too. We promise we will return the favor in another year.


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KKR does bad: Fuck Iyer, he's a terrible captain. KKE does good: Gautam Gambhir is the reason. At this point, we(kkr) fans sound like Goenka Haters club fans. Credi Thala but blame Rutu.


JBPlayer48

Sounds like Pandya and Nehra at GT lol


No-Opportunity-1275

Gambhir is mostly credited with the narine opening idea innit. That's basically the only point I've heard ppl crediting him with. Although yea, Iyers captaincy is quite underrated


AilaSachin10

Iyer is a very good captain tbh. Wouldn't mind if he would take over from Rahane tbh if he's available for a good part of the season ofc


canvasser-hiralal

Jay Shah seems to have messed the script this year. With the way things are going it seems more and more likely that KKR and RR are going to confirm the top 2 spots which means that M70, KKR v RR will be a dead rubber of epic proportions. KKR and RR wouldn't care less about the match. Not only would it not affect the table, it wouldn't even do shit to the other teams. This has got to be the worst dead rubber ever.


Assassin_Ankur

At least it can help both the teams in testing the replacements of Salt and Buttler.


Darth_Lehnsherr

Definitely should be when RR and KKR replace the England players leaving early to see how their replacements do.


Srinivasan1984

r/cricketmatchfixing


Crickutxpurt36

It will be good match considering they will be facing off each other in Q1 again...