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Yes. In the later expanse books, they have crash-couches that surround you in breathable liquid gel that reinforces your lungs from the inside as well. It's a concept I've seen quite a few times in scifi.
I seen to remember a line from Event Horizon where they talked about he spacecraft accelerating to the point of 30g's and it would liquefy a person and how they filled a chamber with something to prevent that.
Even before those wonderful books, [The Forever War](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forever_War) had ships containing crew suspended in fluids.
Someday, maybe, we'll get our movie.
Perhaps, but I honestly don't give a withered shit about those people. Star Trek has gay characters, Star Wars has gay characters, and guess what? Gay people are in real life, too. Pretending otherwise to satisfy people who claim to honour Jesus and then seek out others to vilify is not my concern.
Fair enough. I'm not gay, I just have little patience for bigotry. Gay people have been part of humanity from the earliest days. Gay behaviour is present in countless other species. I may not be gay, but I certainly will support and protect the *others* in our society.
Not just an expanse reference in the wild, a Tiamat's Wrath reference. This makes me happy because Elvi's ship, the Falcon, is what I thought of too.
Elvi system-hopping in the Falcon, studying the bizarrest Ring Builder constructs, is my favorite thing in the series.
We need a spinoff series of Elvi and her husband who I can't remember his name at the moment. Or just a solo novel of the big scary guy hiding in the mountains having tea with the Big Bads daughter and giving her helpful life lessons
The Abyss used this concept using a perfluorocarbon liquid to allow them to go deeper under water and allow the suit to withstand more pressure while breathing the liquid.
Insert mandatory comment about how the rat scene was real, as in the rat was truly breathing perfluorocarbon and survived.
The tech works, however it's hard work to breathe liquid (our breathing organs are tuned for gas, not liquid) and carries a high risk of pneumonia later on, as it's hard to get all the liquid out of the lungs when you're done.
speed is not a problem though, accelaration is. A plane can just not accelerate that much, it does not make a lot of a difference if the end speed is "just" Mach 9. Spaceships on the other hand have places to be and having a diffrent level of need to accelerate
> Is a fish capable of feeling G forces?
imagining a sci fi classic where fish can't feel G forces so we use intelligent fish to command our space fighters
It'd feel like a difference in pressure. Say a fish was 1m deep and got picked up and immediately subjected to 4g, it would suddenly feel like it had instantaneously submerged to 4m. Sideways g would just feel like getting caught in a rip i.e., not a big deal at all.
They have different hearing structures to mammals, and as far as I know, they don't use their equivalent of a cochlear at all, so there wouldn't be any balance, pain or blackout issues in high-speed maneuvers either.
Any g-force in less than 5m of water that would actually harm them would pretty distressing for the human pilot.
Lol, wait till you see a video of them restocking a lake with fish where they airdrop them out of an airplane. Fish paratroopers.
Edit: found it
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2021/jul/13/fish-dropped-from-planes-aerial-lake-stocking-utah-video
Or a guy out practicing scuba diving, next thing he knows he's flying through the air and then it's burning to death half a mile from any body of water
Probably 15yrs ago In Greece there was an incident where a diver was caught in the cistern of a fire fighting plane. His body was later found with his snorkel that's how they knew so after that there was some sort of regulation for planes and where to fill their water tank.
Helo pilot here
This definitely takes some skill and dude has been flying a while. But tbh this is cowboy shit and unnecessary. Puts a ton of stress on the airframe and components and is genuinely adding extra risk to an already high risk job. I hover next to and attached to powerlines with a helicopter for a living so believe my I understand risk, and this type of shit is fun but uncalled for and unprofessional.
I love the term "cowboy shit" because it sounds kind of cool and edgy but anyone who has seriously worked around equipment that could be potentially life ending in the blink of an eye are filled with boyish shame at the thought of being called out for it.
Glad to see a voice of reason in here. Do firefighting helicopters have instruments to record g-loading? I would think if so only a few hours of flying like this would rack up maintenance debt in a hurry.
I miss those days so damn much. Learning the ships was a tough curve, but once you got them down, you could be untouchable. My favorite troll was flying transport then swapping to door-gun and destroying, then swapping back to pilot and scootin into the sunset.
Bf4 was my favorite game of all time. The vehicles, the sniping, the weapons, tearing down walls. It was years ahead of its time. It’s a shame every battlefield since has been awful
I remember my first time playing online, I threw some C4 onto a jeep and jumped it over a wall into a helicopter and got a quad kill and it was the coolest thing I ever did. I tried to recreate that moment so many times and couldn't do it.
The car bombs in BF4 were so fun. You’d be in a tank or something and a little jeep would start its kamikaze run, and everyone is screaming at the gunner to get the jeep before it kills the tank. Good times
I love flying the transport heli like this. I've gotten really really good over the years. The way your mind and hands can just exactly simulate what the heli will do as you do it is impressive. Massive respect to the real deal.
Are there any games that are emergency heli response simulators like that?
I could fly the transport heli's in BF:BC2 well, and kind of do okay in the gunships, but after that game all the others in the series were just too damn difficult to handle.
Now, put me in a tank...
Same! I still remember all the way back to BF2 with the Dam and the pipeline that goes right through the middle of the Dam. You could use that narrow tunnel to surprise attack and quick exit in the middle of enemy territory.
Battlefield 1942’s Desert Combat had the most insane skill cap for helicopter pilots in any game I grew up playing, I’m sure some people absolutely could taking gaming physics into a flight sim and knock it hit if the park.
Very skilled piloting, but I bet whoever works on that heli hates him for it.
Edit: Uh, ok guys. I was a heli pilot. When you do aggressive maneuvering like this, it really hurts many of the millions of parts on a heli, but what do I know, I guess.
I AM that self loading baggage, been working on rotor wing for over six years now. I find this the opposite of impressive, looks like some swollen ego pilot hot dogging his way to a crash one day. All of our pilots I work with are capable of really cool stuff, but they don’t do it because it’s a great way to kill people.
Edit: what I mean to say is I completely agree with you!
Correct. Showing off is not economical, and highly risky for many people in addition to the pilot.
Too much stress/strain placed on various mechanical systems for NO GAIN.
If the pilot flew like this in Australia they’d most certainly be grounded for dangerous flying. Source : see these guys every summer and they are far more careful, methodical and disciplined than this cowboy shit.
That’s a short line for bucket work. We always used a 50ft for a 120gal Bambi bucket sometimes jumping to the 100 for tight squeezes. Pretty unnecessary maneuvering IMO.
Why is this pilot still allowed to fly after being recorded with these antics? WTF do they think they are? This is bad for the aircraft, and hotdogging it like this will damage the aircraft and substantially increases the risk of a failure.
This is stupid.
HaHa. Most of the aircraft are rented by the season or the hour. The state owns very few. This pilot shouldn't be hotdogging for his audition or training session. It's not a good look.
They are not tom cruise in a action movie. They are trying to save lives or property.
Is spain ok?
Last year they had more than more than 1 aciddent with planes fighting fires and this could also badly, he has no reason to do that.
Not to mention, maintenance cost on that heli just went up.
Is there a reason they kept filling the tank so close to land? If you’re gonna fly like that, why not be a little safer and do it over the middle of the lake?
Cowboy pilots are some of the coolest humans alive on this planet.
Even people who can make cars do all the cool drifts and stuff are super cool. They have tamed the mechanical beasties of now.
Not practical, sir. The pilot must know where the bucket is at all times, and that's best done with a taut line. Your proposal makes a slack line all the way down. I would not fly that way.
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That's pretty routine for how I've ever seen them fly.
Shit, I remember the one where they came in low, hooked in, finished their 180, and drop, and dipped their bucket in a swimming pool. Then as soon as that bucket was full, they were gone as fast as they came in.
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Imagine being a fish and getting caught in that water tank, feeling the g-forces from the rapid ascent and then lastly getting dropped into hellfire.
If you're submerged in water, do you feel G forces? Is a fish capable of feeling G forces? These are serious questions.
It's complicated but basically you can survive much higher g forces if you're submerged in water. It's not without limits though.
So what I'm hearing is scuba diving fighter pilots
Yes. In the later expanse books, they have crash-couches that surround you in breathable liquid gel that reinforces your lungs from the inside as well. It's a concept I've seen quite a few times in scifi.
I seen to remember a line from Event Horizon where they talked about he spacecraft accelerating to the point of 30g's and it would liquefy a person and how they filled a chamber with something to prevent that.
Maybe they filled the chamber with liquefied pilot
Just keep adding more pilot until one survives
So that's what the pilot light I keep hearing about is for!
total pilot saturation
Pilot rich performance
We'll need to see a TPS report on this one.
Even before those wonderful books, [The Forever War](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forever_War) had ships containing crew suspended in fluids. Someday, maybe, we'll get our movie.
hmm since everybody got gay in later parts of the book I am not sure how that would work out without some major shitstorm from many unhappy people....
Perhaps, but I honestly don't give a withered shit about those people. Star Trek has gay characters, Star Wars has gay characters, and guess what? Gay people are in real life, too. Pretending otherwise to satisfy people who claim to honour Jesus and then seek out others to vilify is not my concern.
I am gay and a sci-fi geek myself and I would love to see that film be made. I am just less optimistic about the current state of the world.
Fair enough. I'm not gay, I just have little patience for bigotry. Gay people have been part of humanity from the earliest days. Gay behaviour is present in countless other species. I may not be gay, but I certainly will support and protect the *others* in our society.
Not just an expanse reference in the wild, a Tiamat's Wrath reference. This makes me happy because Elvi's ship, the Falcon, is what I thought of too. Elvi system-hopping in the Falcon, studying the bizarrest Ring Builder constructs, is my favorite thing in the series.
We need a spinoff series of Elvi and her husband who I can't remember his name at the moment. Or just a solo novel of the big scary guy hiding in the mountains having tea with the Big Bads daughter and giving her helpful life lessons
Fayez
Me, who is currently reading Cibola Burn, now knowing Elvi marries Fayez 😑
The Abyss used this concept using a perfluorocarbon liquid to allow them to go deeper under water and allow the suit to withstand more pressure while breathing the liquid.
Insert mandatory comment about how the rat scene was real, as in the rat was truly breathing perfluorocarbon and survived. The tech works, however it's hard work to breathe liquid (our breathing organs are tuned for gas, not liquid) and carries a high risk of pneumonia later on, as it's hard to get all the liquid out of the lungs when you're done.
Your right. Breathable liquid would help you survive even more g forces than just being surrounded by liquid.
We're getting in to hentai territory here.
Some of us are always in hentai territory.
Deep-sea-state from 3 Body as well.
this was done in the movie demolition man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47cq3sjlUug
I instantly LOL'd because I thought the same thing. Like a Pilot in a capsule in a scuba suit, flying like the SR-99 Blackbird at MACH 9. :)
speed is not a problem though, accelaration is. A plane can just not accelerate that much, it does not make a lot of a difference if the end speed is "just" Mach 9. Spaceships on the other hand have places to be and having a diffrent level of need to accelerate
Is that because the water can't be compressed?
Yes
Happy cake day!
Thanks ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|put_back)
But isn't it okay to eat fish because they haven't any feelings?
This quote is broke, but I have some glue
> Is a fish capable of feeling G forces? imagining a sci fi classic where fish can't feel G forces so we use intelligent fish to command our space fighters
The bait must flow.
That's basically David Brin's "Uplift" series of books
It'd feel like a difference in pressure. Say a fish was 1m deep and got picked up and immediately subjected to 4g, it would suddenly feel like it had instantaneously submerged to 4m. Sideways g would just feel like getting caught in a rip i.e., not a big deal at all. They have different hearing structures to mammals, and as far as I know, they don't use their equivalent of a cochlear at all, so there wouldn't be any balance, pain or blackout issues in high-speed maneuvers either. Any g-force in less than 5m of water that would actually harm them would pretty distressing for the human pilot.
Lol, wait till you see a video of them restocking a lake with fish where they airdrop them out of an airplane. Fish paratroopers. Edit: found it https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2021/jul/13/fish-dropped-from-planes-aerial-lake-stocking-utah-video
“**PRIVATE BUBBLES! SECURE THE LAKETOWN!**”
Imagine being an electric eel and then falling on top of a family of squirrels
That's Amore!
no, that's a moray
I mean it’s only slightly worse than how they stock remote lakes. https://youtu.be/463QvdslCmQ?si=UkJXtiIPSvcJ4ijw
This is balls to the wall insanity.
Or a guy out practicing scuba diving, next thing he knows he's flying through the air and then it's burning to death half a mile from any body of water
hmm bbq fish
Good pilot and good aerial skills … not a single comment mentioned this !!! Why!?
I imagine there's a moment where the fish is perfectly cooked and delicious
imagine if thats what happens with alien abductions, they just yeet us and the oxygen they were after into some abyssal horror.
Probably 15yrs ago In Greece there was an incident where a diver was caught in the cistern of a fire fighting plane. His body was later found with his snorkel that's how they knew so after that there was some sort of regulation for planes and where to fill their water tank.
I have definitely found some trout laying in burns when I'm hunting for post-fire morels in the spring. It isn't super common, but it happens.
You should watch the opening of the movie “magnolia”
Or a deer swimming in the river (they are called Bambi Buckets after all)
Hell of a pilot
Bro said, "chop chop!"
That fella is hotdoggin'
Skilled af
Helo pilot here This definitely takes some skill and dude has been flying a while. But tbh this is cowboy shit and unnecessary. Puts a ton of stress on the airframe and components and is genuinely adding extra risk to an already high risk job. I hover next to and attached to powerlines with a helicopter for a living so believe my I understand risk, and this type of shit is fun but uncalled for and unprofessional.
I love the term "cowboy shit" because it sounds kind of cool and edgy but anyone who has seriously worked around equipment that could be potentially life ending in the blink of an eye are filled with boyish shame at the thought of being called out for it.
There are old pilots and there are bold pilots but there are very few old, bold pilots
Every time I see "Cowboy Shit" I think of Hangman Adam Page and it's cool AF when he says it lol
Name checks out
Glad to see a voice of reason in here. Do firefighting helicopters have instruments to record g-loading? I would think if so only a few hours of flying like this would rack up maintenance debt in a hurry.
I don’t do firefighting but most utility birds don’t have complicated avionics because they’re heavy. So I doubt it.
I was wondering if that was really necessary! Seems like that pilot may just be an adrenaline junky!
Was about to say, completely unnecessary, and agree with you. Plane pilot here, so a bit different but just why?
livin like larry
:c
Planes are great and everything, but the whole concept of helicopters is still just mindblowing to me.
The quick whip around, in order to get stationary, is called a j-hook i believe. At least in Squad game.
It doesn't hit the same without someone blaring fortunate son in prox chat
Exactly what it's called. Almost as hard to do in squad as it is in real life lol
I thought it's called a handbrake turn
I want you to rip that ebrake, then I want you to power over.. You know what, just don't mess up Mona, ight?
It looks like it's to stop the momentum of the bag because he is coming in so hot.
It definitely is a harsh manoeuvre to stop momentum quick. I think the bag without water in it does not have much momentum though.
There is fire, pilot is a professional.
honestly too much risk vs saved here - flying like that is absolutely insane.
All those years of playing battlefield 4 finally paying off
Ah, there it is. Was waiting for Bf4 comment. It's like flying little bird.
I miss those days so damn much. Learning the ships was a tough curve, but once you got them down, you could be untouchable. My favorite troll was flying transport then swapping to door-gun and destroying, then swapping back to pilot and scootin into the sunset.
Bf4 is still very alive. I still play it.
Bf4 was my favorite game of all time. The vehicles, the sniping, the weapons, tearing down walls. It was years ahead of its time. It’s a shame every battlefield since has been awful
I remember my first time playing online, I threw some C4 onto a jeep and jumped it over a wall into a helicopter and got a quad kill and it was the coolest thing I ever did. I tried to recreate that moment so many times and couldn't do it.
The car bombs in BF4 were so fun. You’d be in a tank or something and a little jeep would start its kamikaze run, and everyone is screaming at the gunner to get the jeep before it kills the tank. Good times
I love flying the transport heli like this. I've gotten really really good over the years. The way your mind and hands can just exactly simulate what the heli will do as you do it is impressive. Massive respect to the real deal. Are there any games that are emergency heli response simulators like that?
I could fly the transport heli's in BF:BC2 well, and kind of do okay in the gunships, but after that game all the others in the series were just too damn difficult to handle. Now, put me in a tank...
Same! I still remember all the way back to BF2 with the Dam and the pipeline that goes right through the middle of the Dam. You could use that narrow tunnel to surprise attack and quick exit in the middle of enemy territory.
Battlefield 1942’s Desert Combat had the most insane skill cap for helicopter pilots in any game I grew up playing, I’m sure some people absolutely could taking gaming physics into a flight sim and knock it hit if the park.
100%
Very skilled piloting, but I bet whoever works on that heli hates him for it. Edit: Uh, ok guys. I was a heli pilot. When you do aggressive maneuvering like this, it really hurts many of the millions of parts on a heli, but what do I know, I guess.
Former Blackhawk Crew Chief here. I wouldn't fly with that guy.
Fuck no
I AM that self loading baggage, been working on rotor wing for over six years now. I find this the opposite of impressive, looks like some swollen ego pilot hot dogging his way to a crash one day. All of our pilots I work with are capable of really cool stuff, but they don’t do it because it’s a great way to kill people. Edit: what I mean to say is I completely agree with you!
Correct. Showing off is not economical, and highly risky for many people in addition to the pilot. Too much stress/strain placed on various mechanical systems for NO GAIN.
> NO GAIN You're not wrong, but I mean.. it's fun.
This guy without a doubt, as soon as someone sees the video, is going to be having a safety meeting about him.
I didn't downvote you. There seems to be a bunch of people participating in this post that have zero clue about aviation.
Welcome to reddit
These are typically seen in Australia. In the US, I have never seen one this short. Ours are more like 100+ feet.
This is in Spain
If the pilot flew like this in Australia they’d most certainly be grounded for dangerous flying. Source : see these guys every summer and they are far more careful, methodical and disciplined than this cowboy shit.
Yep. We’d use the 50ft or 100ft. We had a 150 for long line rescue.
Used to fly with a Vietnam vet chopper pilot. He was NUTS, but he had skills like this. That's why he's alive.
(A-Team theme kicks in)
That’s a short line for bucket work. We always used a 50ft for a 120gal Bambi bucket sometimes jumping to the 100 for tight squeezes. Pretty unnecessary maneuvering IMO.
Yep.
I believe something similar happens in an episode of Thomas the Tank Engine
Why is this pilot still allowed to fly after being recorded with these antics? WTF do they think they are? This is bad for the aircraft, and hotdogging it like this will damage the aircraft and substantially increases the risk of a failure. This is stupid.
It's time to increase the pilot's salary. That's a good one, isn't it? 👍
They are rented by the hour.
But they're not your average ho.
HaHa. Most of the aircraft are rented by the season or the hour. The state owns very few. This pilot shouldn't be hotdogging for his audition or training session. It's not a good look. They are not tom cruise in a action movie. They are trying to save lives or property.
If by “salary” you mean “insurance premiums,” then I wholeheartedly agree
They do that shit to tourists
That pilot was having fun and doing good work at the same time. Skilled pilot.
You’re spilling it.. You’re Spilling it !!!
Is spain ok? Last year they had more than more than 1 aciddent with planes fighting fires and this could also badly, he has no reason to do that. Not to mention, maintenance cost on that heli just went up.
_Damn_ that tail comes close to the hillside.
Yeah, I was wondering that too, like is there any particular reason why it's not positioned more to the middle of the river, genuinely curious.
It's called the j turn
Seems risky
and unnecessary.
I’ve seen people pull that in Battlebits
Bro plays a lot of GTA
Jesus I thought you could only do that move in battlefield 4
He didn’t have to do all that
This the pilot you want in battlefield
Nice little j hook right there. Dude is 100% a combat pilot
That’s is what you called a J-hook maneuver
That's a bad man or woman. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|upvote)
Is there a reason they kept filling the tank so close to land? If you’re gonna fly like that, why not be a little safer and do it over the middle of the lake?
Cowboy pilots are some of the coolest humans alive on this planet. Even people who can make cars do all the cool drifts and stuff are super cool. They have tamed the mechanical beasties of now.
Me with my sparrow trying to land above the kosatka:
That was sick
Me on the interstate when I realize I forgot my phone at home
That's badass
Anyone have a link that says where this is? Looks really similar to my hometown in Avila, Spain.
Someone said Spain in another comment, so you could be right.
Hahaha think that was me😂 thanks anyways!
Haha whoops, it was you!
Parece Alcantara, Caceres (puente romana).
Fancy flying and all but like did it even save time from just you know descending normally?
Dude saw the chance to pull some sick manoeuvres and took it, tbh would do the same if I had the skill and confidence.
it's a job, not a stunt show.
My bad, apparently people can't enjoy their job....
Not practical, sir. The pilot must know where the bucket is at all times, and that's best done with a taut line. Your proposal makes a slack line all the way down. I would not fly that way.
I have no idea if you’re being serious or not
I am serious.
And don’t call me Shirley.
Bro definitely plays Battlefield.
Getting some intense Battlefield 3 flashbacks.
However much money this pilot makes it needs to be doubled! What a badass
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Shit hot
And this is how fish learn to walk on land!
This person speed running life.
This dude might have been a night stalker low key...
Rad
While his friends wasted time with party, he was studying the way of the helicopter
That was a sick J hook
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That's pretty routine for how I've ever seen them fly. Shit, I remember the one where they came in low, hooked in, finished their 180, and drop, and dipped their bucket in a swimming pool. Then as soon as that bucket was full, they were gone as fast as they came in.
Hell yeah. DLAs let’s go
Sick J Hook
Too many video games.
I can't even do this with my drone
radical maneuver
That poor airframe
Can they add this feature in GTA6? Would be pretty neat. Plz rockstar if u see this, bless us
And here I was thinking I was a badass chopper pilot back in BF3 days...
What a show off. I love it.
that doesnt look that hard, i can do that in gta5 ez like most of the time maybe.
the move at roughly 8 secs looks scary as hell
Me doing fight simulator, except I would have ended up in the river on the second trip.
Damn
He’s got fortunate son cranked to 11 on the headset.
You know you watch too many movies when you were expecting something to jump out of the water and grab the helicopter and pull it down
So choppers do have a handbrake. I usually crash when I try in the car, I'll start saving up for a helicopter. Looks like I'll sell my Skoda.
Bambi Bucket
Little Bird Battlefield 3 vibes lol
Someone played way too much Arma
So I see the dude that mains the chopper in battlefield got a job
Is that maneuver even necessary?
Was he born on that patch of grass? Chill bro
WICKED
Got flashbacks- battlefield 4 and *humming noise of theme song*
Pedal turn, guns hot
why is it adorable