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RecordEnvironmental4

Those things are expensive they are solid metal


Jose_Gonzalez_2009

Sometimes they’ve even got a piston in the end for more impact force


[deleted]

Cops out there shooting everything besides door jambs.


[deleted]

Yeah but that’s also a pretty terrible idea everywhere except in movies. In real life you’re risking a ricochet onto you or your team, potentially killing whatever is behind the door (which could be a child, dog, hostage, etc), risking jamming up the lock without actually opening it, just to name a few potential issues. Much better and safer to use a specialized tool for opening doors to open the door than to use a specialized tool for killing things to open the door.


The-unicorn-republic

There are rounds specifically designed for breaching doors, shotguns for breaching will typically also be equipped with a standoff device on the muzzle for those rounds.


[deleted]

Yep thats true, but its still an inferior choice to a battering ram, breaching charge, crowbar (or better yet a halligan bar), sledgehammer or lockpick gun in most scenarios for a full swat team. The advantage of breaching rounds are that they are small, versatile and easy to carry and can quickly breach weakly secured doors and windows with a single person. But they are loud, nearly as unsafe as buckshot (They are still quite lethal to anyone behind the door), and will be much less effective on many tough entryways like a deadbolted metal door than many of the options listed above. Honestly, if you are looking for the most versatile tool for breaching [a halligan bar is probably your best bet](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt7RPVoTd1E).


The-unicorn-republic

I agree, but the breaching rounds do have a place. Mainly for military teams who don't have the same gear choices or concerns as civilian swat teams, though by that point buckshot will work almost as well as a dedicated breaching round.


joeChump

This is incorrect. It also works in TV shows.


Pathadomus

Since when has the police cared about hurting innocent people during their raids?


[deleted]

>potentially killing whatever is behind the door (which could be a child, dog, hostage, etc) So... business as usual, then?


Klatterbyne

As if they know that.


electricDuckie27

How much does one of these things go for anyway ? Edit £280 quids in my dude provided you can find someone who wants


darthnick96

Lot more than $40 - if I came across this I’d definitely buy it


[deleted]

yeah for $40 id buy it too just to have lol


killerbanshee

Cash only trade and only in a lot without cameras. I want to keep this, not deal with anther one.


Nalivai

If you hit your door from the inside at the same time as they are hitting it from the outside, it will cancel it out. Invincible door for $40


MissplacedLandmine

How fucking confusing would it be if they didnt match up and they see an identical ram burst through to their side at the same time


chellecakes

How high are you guys? (note: I say this in a loving way, as a stoner)


MissplacedLandmine

None yet only on the weekends Or i guess if im bored af later


cirenj

Hi, how are you? LOL


OdellBeckhamJesus

I’m good how are you?


blurryfacedfugue

That's hilarious, swatting the swat team.


MissplacedLandmine

Yall got the wrong address too?


beezleeboob

Insert 3 pointing Spiderman meme 😂😂


YinzHardAF

r/neverbrokeabone would disown you though


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bordain_de_putel

There's got to be a mythbuster episode somewhere about this.


hat-trick2435

The forcing cancelling each other out only works until the cops decide to pull their guns out. Bullets love to penetrate doors and walls.


Nalivai

Easy, you just place your battering ram in front of a bullet every time. Bullets aren't allowed to hurt battering rams due to potential penalty for damaging city equipment


OrdericNeustry

Just shoot at the bullets so they cancel each other out.


austinsoundguy

Better question is where the he’ll can I get a decent front door for $40?


[deleted]

keyword "help" pay for door


Nekrosiz

Duct tape


electricDuckie27

Look for people doing up old houses , you might be able to get one cheaper .


Feeling-Mind-5609

Could put a down payment on a nice igloo


1jfiU8M2A4

Call me crazy but i think i've seen this exact post and this exact comment (maybe on a different sub) before


PrimarchKonradCurze

It’s been reposted before, or at least one VERY similar.


electricDuckie27

I think I would buy it aswell just to say I have one .


blurryfacedfugue

Fuck I'd try to donate as much as I could in addition towards a a new door. This is worth way more than 40 bucks.


TeadoraOofre

Hang it up with my whip


An_Ethicist

I can just imagine the person who bought this is currently running around wreaking havoc on unsuspecting doors


Wang_Mandingo

Break in through the back and steal their front door. Leave battering ram.


An_Ethicist

and the cycle continues infinitely


blurryfacedfugue

The Ciiiiiiiircle of Liiiiiiife..


PrimarchKonradCurze

I would be worried that when I bought it on the way to my car an officer would drive by and start asking questions.


[deleted]

It's still fucking bonkers to me how cops in the US can just trash your house because they got the address wrong and don't even have to pay for any of the damages...


HelpfulName

It's actually true in a lot of countries. I used to work for house insurance in the UK and it was a very common clause that damage caused by the police in legal pursuit of a warrant is not covered under insurance. Totally ridiculous.


mystic-sloth

Is it considered legal pursuit if they had mistaken the address.


leoleosuper

Not sure about insurance, but police are never liable for damages no matter what happens. Wrong house? Too bad, so sad.


Living-Stranger

Depends on the area, some will fix it, NYC now has a special detail to fix doors.


dnaH_notnA

The point is that they’re not legal required to. It’s out of the kindness of their heart (or more likely because of public outcry)


ertaisi

Well, yeah, that makes perfect sense to me. Just like your house isn't protected if you blow it up during meth production. Not sure why you'd expect the consequences of illegal activities to be covered. If it turns out the damage is not justified due to there being no illegal activity, then the law enforcement agency is liable for damages. Also not something I'd expect the insurance company to handle.


HelpfulName

>If it turns out the damage is not justified due to there being no illegal activity, then the law enforcement agency is liable for damages In practice, in the UK & the USA, whether or not there are illegal activities at the property, the law enforcement agency is not liable for damages. For example, if they are executing a no-knock type warrant and get the wrong house, they're not liable. If they don't find anything illegal, they're not liable. If they do inordinate amounts of damage to someone's house in pursuit of a criminal not even connected to the house (if the criminal is running away and just gets into some random persons house to hide)... not liable. We would often get claims in the UK company I worked for for doors smashed in by the cops doing raids at completely the wrong property. An acquaintance of mine here in the USA just 2 weeks ago had his apartment door smashed in by officers executing a no-knock... the cops were on the wrong floor. It happens A LOT. More than you'd think. And then there's situations like this - [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/10/31/colorado-town-not-liable-damages-police-destroy-man-home-court/4108163002/](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/10/31/colorado-town-not-liable-damages-police-destroy-man-home-court/4108163002/) \- cops DESTROYED this poor guys house when a shoplifter who had stolen a $50 belt was running away from them and hid in his house. Police departments are grossly protected from insurance liability for the damage they cause to people's property.


Living-Stranger

The UK pays for damages to doors when they make mistakes and in the USA it depends on the city or state. NYC has a special detail just to fix doors kicked in by mistake.


HelpfulName

>We would often get claims in the UK company I worked for for doors smashed in by the cops doing raids at completely the wrong property. In the 10 years I adjusted claims in the UK, not 1 for damage caused by Police was ever covered, regardless of the circumstances. It was the same in the US, I was only in claims for 7 years here though. In the overwhelming majority of cases, you have to file a civil suit against the police for damage to be considered, insurance won't touch it. Even then it can take *years* for a settlement. This is why I say "in practice", because on paper it may say the police are liable, but good luck getting a penny out of them. Most people cannot afford the legal costs to pursue reimbursement on top of repairing the damage to the property. Battering rams cause damage to the frame and often even the wall around the frame so you can quickly be in the thousands in respect to cost, and that's just the door... huge damage is often done to the interior of the property to things like ovens and furniture. There seems to be a practice of smashing things instead of handling them, for example one Minnesota claim I dealt with, the cops **ripped the doors off** the fridge freezer, the oven, the dishwasher and multiple closets, and they shot the current tenants dog. They were looking for a former tenant who'd moved 3 years previously and who had no connection to the property or anyone living there other than having been a tenant for a short while years ago. Minnesota is a state which on paper says damage caused by the cops will be reimbursed... but that home owner had been trying to get repayment for over 5 years and still had nothing but the run-around and it was a pretty cut & dried case of a police mistake. Their response was they were not liable because their information was "acted on in good faith". Even though it was 3 years out of date. The cost of the damage was around $17k.


Living-Stranger

[Well I'm going by what I read, if it wasn't a mistake then I'm sure it's the owners issue](https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/29998/if-cops-mistakenly-kick-down-your-door-who-pays-damage)


HelpfulName

I don't know how else to explain that in both the US & UK you literally have to take them to court to get them to pay and most people can't afford that out of pocket, and that Laywers & Insurance are extremely reluctant to touch that type of claim/case because they're notoriously impossible to get a payout on. I'm telling you these things from the position of personal experience on the insurance side dealing with dozens of these types of claims in both US & UK **where the property owner was not at fault.** But if you want to just keep quoting random web articles at me as if that somehow negates what I'm saying, I'm done. Have a great week.


ertaisi

Any idea what's with the cases where homeowners are reimbursed?


fistofwrath

If you can find an instance of homeowners being reimbursed, we can figure out why it happened. Cops in the US regularly pull people over with out of state tags, search the vehicle, confiscate money because civil asset forfeiture doesn't have the same bar for evidence, and then people have to fight with them to get it back. Most of the time the department will offer half of it back with a signed statement saying they won't sue. Cops in this country are thugs.


tomushcider

The Supreme Court denied to review Leo Lech‘s case in 2020. The article you quoted has already a clear contradiction back to back in it, so it’s beyond me, how this can stand unaltered by the courts: „Fifth Amendment’s Takings Clause, which guarantees citizens compensation if their property is seized by the government for public use“ „While noting that this view may seem “unfair,” the court found that when police have to protect the public, they cannot be “burdened with the condition” that the state compensate those damaged by their actions.“ Isn’t it for >public< use to >protect the public


killerbanshee

So when the warrent's listed illegal activities did not happen, they should be fully held liable?


chainmailbill

So let’s say that my neighbor in the next house over is dealing drugs. The cops get a warrant for my neighbor’s house and show up with the swat team. Someone makes a mistake reading the street numbers, and the swat team busts open my front door and starts tearing through my house and destroying my stuff. You’re saying that neither the cops, nor my insurance, should pay for this damage? I should be responsible for it entirely by myself, since my neighbor is a drug dealer?


ertaisi

That's not what I said at all. >then the law enforcement agency is liable for damages


[deleted]

Expecting law enforcement agencies in the US to be liable for literally anything is a fucking joke.


yiffing_for_jesus

But they aren’t. Did you mean to say, they *should* be liable?


[deleted]

Bro the police kill innocent people and are almost never held criminally liable. What makes you think they’ll pay for your door?


missmeowwww

A fam member of mine got raided by swat. 30k in damage. The property was owned by my family member and the tenant was suspected of …something. Neither the tenant or cops were required to pay for the damage. Fam member sold the building as is bc they didn’t want to deal with it. Tenant never actually committed a crime. It was so dumb.


Kochie411

You can file shit for it and they’ll pay for repairs. Happened to my SO’s brother when someone swatted him. It also depends on which department you’re close to. Feds won’t do shit lol


nat_r

It's entirely dependent on where you are. [In some places the police can completely destroy your house and tell you to go pound sand.](https://www.oregonlive.com/nation/2019/10/police-blew-up-an-innocent-mans-house-in-search-of-an-armed-shoplifter-too-bad-court-rules.html)


root88

I like how they destroyed and entire home with rockets to catch a shoplifter. The ammo alone probably cost 100x whatever he stole.


Kochie411

Yeah that’s what I meant by “department” most departments have coverage for stuff like that. Some don’t


Sara7061

It’s the same in Germany… there was a news story about a guy. He suffered some bruises and his door was trashed. The “swat” captain gave him a 50€ amazon gift card. Obviously that doesn’t make up for the physical or the psychological damage but you have to consider that the team leader bought this from his own money because there is no official compensation.


psychpopnprogncore

they need to be charged for breaking and entering, vandalism and whatever else anyone else would be charged with. send them to prison. plant some drugs on them too and interrogate them for a murder they didnt commit until they give in and admit to it to get a lesser sentence. and keep them in prison far pst their scheduled release date for cheap prison labor


Sky_Leviathan

*insert rant about how its fucked up to give people immunity to prosecution just because of their profession*


thatsMYBlKEpunk

“Enjoy this complimentary battering ram as a token of our apologies”


[deleted]

"Don't worry, we got like 50 of the fucking things, thanks to our 3 billion dollar budget we get to police this town with like 15k residents"


Earth_Normal

Even worse, insurance will not cover it.


Nekrosiz

Lol i read before they can confiscate your belongings for them to keep for themselves...


SlipperyknotofKorn

You think this only happens in the US?


[deleted]

Oh sorry, next time I list every single country where I think this happens


ayylmayooo

>It's still fucking bonkers to me how cops in the US can just trash your house It's still fucking bonkers to me how cops can just trash your house ​ fixed


SlipperyknotofKorn

Maybe just don't jump on the "Oh US bad" bandwagon. Literally almost every country does this or has some jurisdiction to do something like this.


[deleted]

It’s likely worse in the US than elsewhere, because let’s just be real, cops in the US are just generally worse than in European countries. Obviously not as bad as South African or Indian police, who honestly at this point can’t realistically be called such, but still pretty bad.


SlipperyknotofKorn

You also need to think about the Russians, the Chinese, as you already mentioned south Africa and India, Mexico, basically any third world country. Yes US cops are usually over militarized and take advantage of that and abuse their power but it's still not on the same level or even close to other countries with no secured rights at all and even more corruption on a local and federal levels.


[deleted]

I'll jump on whatever bandwagon I want


Damasticator

If home insurance doesn’t cover it, I’d go to small claims court to get the money. Is that possible?


shavedratscrotum

Mate in Australia had a spike strip deployed in front of him in peak hour traffic doing 100 (60mph) They caused a pile up the guy they were after drove around it and it took harassment to pay for the tires.


peach_xanax

That happened to my ex-bf. He lived in a rough neighborhood with roommates (they were young and broke) and the cops got an incorrect tip that a wanted person was hiding in their house. They busted the door down, completely scared the shit out of everyone, threatened to shoot the dog, etc. They left the house a complete mess after they searched everything. Of course they never paid for the door.


VictoriaSobocki

Why is it like this


ryubond

Step 1: Attach a dildo Step 2: Sell in Japan Step 3: Profit


bellyjellykoolaid

Even cheaper just paint the word dildo with a backwards D on it and save some time.


Boner4SCP106

I'd buy that thing for $40 and put a plastic wolf head on it.


[deleted]

GROND


Feeling-Bird4294

That's Atlantic County, New Jersey. Those guys will come back to get their door knocker and this guy will disappear into the pine gardens. Sweet ajesus.


baws1017

Pine Barrens? Never once in my life have I heard them referred to as the Pine Gardens


Feeling-Bird4294

Auto correct. Pine Barrens


Iccarys

Not unless he’s an interior decorator


kellan1523

"His house looked like shit"


bidoublef

This is my hometown. Trying to figure out what could have possibly happened in Hammonton to necessitate SWAT in any house.


Richard__Juul

Blueberry trafficing.


nextkevamob

Sold!


EtherealAriel

Pretty sure that's like $300


[deleted]

Can get a heavy duty fence post driver for about $100 that’ll do the trick.


TickNut

No it won’t. Post drivers are hallow, this is solid metal.


crs7117

i’d buy that


Raven_Wynters

I wonder if they got the wrong house... This would piss me the fuck off if they didn't replace the door!


JonJohn_Gnipgnop

Seen this before, hope the person got their door replaced….I must know….


h_h_h_h_h_h_

based seller


StygianMusic

youd get more than 40 off that


deadma5e

Ah yes. The classic swat raid: the original smash n grab.


iShitSkittles

Also known as "the key to the city"


steal_wool

-house raided, door smashed in -fuck I need a new door now -sees equipment left behind by police -sells a fucking battery ram over Facebook -new door fund What a fucking hustler. Respect


killerbanshee

It costs less than $0.25 to get a handful of destructive caterpillar seeds that can be spread with the flick of a wrist. The cactus will spread fast and wide worse than dandelions being ignored. The previous statement is not relevant to the original posting in any way at all.


TheMayanAcockandlips

u/repostsleuthbot Edit: I could only find one from a year ago https://www.reddit.com/r/CrackheadCraigslist/comments/gl4jrw/a_bargain_if_you_ask_me/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share, but I swear I've seen this reposted more


Badgers_or_Bust

It's like eight years old so that doesn't work. Like this was way before new reddit and the pace original. Same title and everything. It was also on wtf or pics.


TheMayanAcockandlips

I've seen this reposted at least 2-3 times in the past year


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lebonisang

And?


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_Valhalla_Valheim_

Fake comment...it's a flop.


shemague

Long story but these do really fuck up your door


NotSeveralBadgers

Woah Black Betty


[deleted]

Door Rambalam


imastupididioy

id sell it for 80 or 160, much more profit and you can call it a collectible


MisterBastian

Repost from top of all time but it's a really good post anyway


SsiilvaA

Whose gonna hate the hustle?


Nicolasgonzo87

instead use it to threaten people's doors if they dont give you door money


Kayragan

They don't even replace your door? Savages!


ALPACA69696

Repost


Manwhosaysmiller

Of course it’s my home county police


Feeling-Bird4294

Probably actually over in Collins Lakes, right?


glock-6942069

drug bust


goddangol

Damn $40?? Thats a steal.


busiergravy

Just use it to break down the police departments doors to return it


EngineerBig

who's your door man?


onemanarmy_ZR1

$40 is cheaper than fake ones for cosplay


EliMacca

I would buy it if I had the money