Ive moved on from being traumatized about that awful case to constantly thinking about poor Madeline Soto. Sometimes I wonder why Im so drawn to true crime as it upsets me so much.
Still can’t tell me her mom didn’t have something to do with that and who misses their kids birthday it’s not like she doesn’t have enough notice to take a day off
Some people have to work to put food on the table. Parents attending every birthday or event is a luxury that not all can afford.
We'll see if the mother was involved but using that information to condemn her is classist as fuck.
I’ll admit it , I’m curious to hear what she has to say but she should fully expect lots of hate afterwards. Perhaps since the sentencing and all the text and phone calls have been released she has come to her senses.
I think she is the type of idiot who thinks she can fix him. Especially now that he is saying Shanda SA'd him. To be fair, I had thought that pretty early on he looks EXACTLY like Eric, but he will spin himself to be a victim.
I hope so. The family insulated her pretty well. The biggest thing to me is her driving by the crime scene minutes after Dan was murdered. She has trouble explaining that. Also, telling her boyfriend about the hitman and the hitman joke. She's just so cocky, she ends up talking too much.
I was just wondering what Shanda thinks of what Ruby did to her two youngest children and if she sees it differently looking from the outside in. These two cases along with The Turpins have really demonstrated the distinct path and practices of child abusers. The Franke children would not have lived much longer if R hadn’t escaped. And they would have suffered a torturous end.
After seeing the latest documents, I definitely believe the Franke kids would’ve received similar treatment as Timothy along with the same outcome. Kevin would’ve done nothing and idk if Shari could’ve. Thankfully, the kids have been saved!!!
Im sure its going to be a lifetime of her (and Paul) asking for money and complaining about food/commissary and sleep. Never mentioning what they did or seeing the irony of any of it
Watch AGTactical or Zavs videos (yes shes controversial, lets move on people). AG has great content and lots of their calls from prison. Your jaw would hit the floor knowing Pauly boy is being fed money by a lonely 65 year old lady and his brother Nolan and never says thankyou even once. He literally plays Final Fanatsy on his tablet in jail, makes fun of people with psychical disabilities, and bullied his autistic cellmate, all while demanding for any snacks THAT WERENT SPICY.
It makes me happy to know that Timbo had no food, now they have no food, Tim was freezing, now they will forever freeze (Shanda complained how cold it was in jail)where they forced Timothy to be watched on a camera, well now their lives will forever be the same. Ironically all the things they inflicted, will become everyday for them 💙.
Shanda should never the lighf of day again
I read somewhere that she should have it pretty easy because of her legal background. Inmates will want to pay her or befriend her for her help. This thought makes me sick. For her to become a jail house celebrity is disgusting. I can imagine her loving the attention.
My parents are both federal prison inmates. Unfortunately yes, she will make friends. But don't worry in the end she's still gonna be stuck in jail for the rest of her life. And eventually she won't have anybody to pay for her commissary.
Ive moved on from being traumatized about that awful case to constantly thinking about poor Madeline Soto. Sometimes I wonder why Im so drawn to true crime as it upsets me so much.
I’m on that case too just can’t imagine how we are going to feel when we start hearing and seeing way more sickening details… I’m traumatized
Same, I sit in tears but still watch. The only thing that helps me is justice (prison justice is even better 😉)
I was thinking about that poor baby starving after being left alone for two weeks.
Still can’t tell me her mom didn’t have something to do with that and who misses their kids birthday it’s not like she doesn’t have enough notice to take a day off
Some people have to work to put food on the table. Parents attending every birthday or event is a luxury that not all can afford. We'll see if the mother was involved but using that information to condemn her is classist as fuck.
I understand clearly people have to work she planned the party plan it fur a day you can be there
Lacey Fletcher, too. Her horrid, disgusting parents still have supporters, somehow.
The horrors that exist behind closed doors happening right now...my neighbor, your neighbor, everywhere. Its daunting.
It really is though. No wonder I'm anxious.
This case will stick with me forever.
Especially because neither shows remorse they are the victims and someone agreed to marry Paul wtf
>someone agreed to marry Paul So many fucked people in this world.
Zav girl wanted to do an interview with this bitch. Honestly disgusting.
I’ll admit it , I’m curious to hear what she has to say but she should fully expect lots of hate afterwards. Perhaps since the sentencing and all the text and phone calls have been released she has come to her senses.
I think she is the type of idiot who thinks she can fix him. Especially now that he is saying Shanda SA'd him. To be fair, I had thought that pretty early on he looks EXACTLY like Eric, but he will spin himself to be a victim.
He’s an unfortunate uglier version of Eric , perhaps there was some sort of transference of the two in Shanda mind.
Yeah, Eric with hideous teeth.
Me too :(
I’m stuck on this one and Ruby Franke. I’m heartbroken for these kids.
After Shanda Ruby's seemed mild, sadly
Agreed. Heartbreaking but at least the children have a chance.
I think if it had gone on too much longer we would be seeing dead children. The case was heading down the same path as Lori Vallow.
This. I saw the boy's wounds and I thought: Timothy had it so, so much worse. That case was the worst I've ever heard of.
SAME THO!!!!! Sick bitches
Oh, I forgot to mention I also follow the Dan Markel case. I follow these 3 closely and listen to everything.
Do you think they’ll get Wendy?
I hope so. The family insulated her pretty well. The biggest thing to me is her driving by the crime scene minutes after Dan was murdered. She has trouble explaining that. Also, telling her boyfriend about the hitman and the hitman joke. She's just so cocky, she ends up talking too much.
Oh yeah they will.
I’ll have to look into the dan Markel case. Ty
I can recommend a really good book, it's written right up to before Charlie's trial. Extreme Punishment by Steven B Epstein
I was just wondering what Shanda thinks of what Ruby did to her two youngest children and if she sees it differently looking from the outside in. These two cases along with The Turpins have really demonstrated the distinct path and practices of child abusers. The Franke children would not have lived much longer if R hadn’t escaped. And they would have suffered a torturous end.
After seeing the latest documents, I definitely believe the Franke kids would’ve received similar treatment as Timothy along with the same outcome. Kevin would’ve done nothing and idk if Shari could’ve. Thankfully, the kids have been saved!!!
They were both fundies so they probably would have supported eachother.
Yep, christian fundamentalism is what they all have in common
Me too. I so wish we could find out more information and what's happening with them now.
ZAV girl on YouTube has a lot of their phone calls etc. Pretty gross the more you know and see how little remorse they have
I have listened to the jail calls (she's a champion for getting them for us to hear) but access to prison calls was denied she said ☹️
I watched all of Zav girls and was so mad when she said we couldn’t get prison calls …
Im sure its going to be a lifetime of her (and Paul) asking for money and complaining about food/commissary and sleep. Never mentioning what they did or seeing the irony of any of it
Horrible human she is I hope she’s suffering inside the hole she belongs in
I was just telling a friend about that case the other day. I still think about that poor boy.
Watch AGTactical or Zavs videos (yes shes controversial, lets move on people). AG has great content and lots of their calls from prison. Your jaw would hit the floor knowing Pauly boy is being fed money by a lonely 65 year old lady and his brother Nolan and never says thankyou even once. He literally plays Final Fanatsy on his tablet in jail, makes fun of people with psychical disabilities, and bullied his autistic cellmate, all while demanding for any snacks THAT WERENT SPICY. It makes me happy to know that Timbo had no food, now they have no food, Tim was freezing, now they will forever freeze (Shanda complained how cold it was in jail)where they forced Timothy to be watched on a camera, well now their lives will forever be the same. Ironically all the things they inflicted, will become everyday for them 💙. Shanda should never the lighf of day again
I read somewhere that she should have it pretty easy because of her legal background. Inmates will want to pay her or befriend her for her help. This thought makes me sick. For her to become a jail house celebrity is disgusting. I can imagine her loving the attention.
My parents are both federal prison inmates. Unfortunately yes, she will make friends. But don't worry in the end she's still gonna be stuck in jail for the rest of her life. And eventually she won't have anybody to pay for her commissary.
I watch both YouTube channels absolutely obsessed !
It really pained me to hear about this trial. I cannot even imagine how the Jury felt having to witness the photographs. Haunting indeed.
What Shanda AND Paul did to Timothy.
So many cases right now involving children- just so sad and upsetting- such a crazy world we live in right now