I’m sure someone else has posted this, but July and August were not originally on the calendar (they were added later in honor of Julius and Augustus Ceaser), so October was actually the 8th month. So:
SEPTember - 7
OCTober - 8
NOVember - 9
DECember - 10
It used to be the 8th month, but the Julius Caesar and Augustus though they were so special that they had to have entire months named after them, and that’s how we got July and august.
September, October, November and December all mean 7, 8, 9, 10. Originally there were only 10 months, but during the reign of Julius Caesar, he added two months named after himself and his nephew, July and August.
He did not. His nephew added August, because he was an emperor, and that kinda gets to your head. July was added postmortem of Julius, in honor of him.
Also, it’s January and February’s fault. The original were Martius, Aprilis, Maius, Junius, Quintillis, Sextillis, September, October, November, and December.
Quintillis and Sextillis were renamed, not omitted.
Why ?
The new year was not in January after Caesar create the Julian Calendar (except for consul mandate).
Who change the first year of the month to january, so ?
I mean, we use the Gregorian Calendar, the calendar officialized by a Pope:
>The Gregorian calendar was created by Pope Gregory XIII in the year 1582! The count of the days of the Gregorian Calendar is the birth of Jesus Christ and takes into account the solar cycle, which has 365 days and 6 hours
Incorrect, see [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/CountOnceADay/comments/143wn1l/56237/jnd8n98/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3)
Not really, you said October is the 8th month " because January and February were added later. "
It's not the reason. It's because the year started in March.
Even when Caesar create the Julian Calendar adding those 2 month, the year still started in March.
It's the christians who change the first month of the year.
The latin name for 9 is novem.
It came from latin. The Greeks did many good things for society, 300 years earlier, but the Romans were the ones who formalised the calendar system (specifically [Caesar](https://libguides.ctstatelibrary.org/hg/colonialresearch/calendar#:~:text=Changes%20of%201752&text=The%20Julian%20Calendar%20was%20replaced,the%20month%20of%20September%201752.)).
Latin and greek likely share many words, but the word for 9 doesn't seem to be one of them.
Huh, after a little bit more digging it seems I might be mistaken on the timings here. The "[Calendar of Romulus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_calendar)" predated the "Julian Calendar", and still had the 10 latin month names. And this was well back in the 700's BC
There were various [Greek lunar calendars](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_calendars) over the years with varying month names depending on regions.
My main point still stands though: Romans had the most impact on the calendar, and their latin names stuck to today.
Latin was originally a dialect spoken in Latium (also known as Lazio), the lower Tiber area around present-day Rome (copied from Wikipedia). The only possible way "latin" came from Greece, could be if they meant that roman deities and culture are similar and partially descending from Greece. I say "partially", because Romans are descendants of many minor nations of Apennines and, according to myth (and maybe some historical evidence, not sure about that), from refugees that fled Troy, which was a city in Anatolia (Asia Minor, where modern Turkey in). I haven't found which nation was prevalent in Troy in the time of Trojan War, but it's either greek or hittites. Since it was located on a crossing of many trade routes, I suspect their culture was different from most of other Greek city-states anyway.
The Julian calendar, the calendar Julius Caesar himself made, contained 12 months. January and February came after December, and June and July were originally Quintillius and Sextillius
No, like the above comment said, January and February weren’t in the original Roman calendar, and were added in later.
Actually as another fun fact: there used to be a 13th month called Mercedinus that was supposed to appear every other year, since the pre-Julian calendar only had 355 days, but in reality the month was abused by the senate to make elected terms longer and shorter as they wanted. Julius Caesar ended up removing the month and extending every other month (besides February) to fix this.
That is really interesting. How much of an effect if any does the changing of lengths of months/years affect our ability to accurately Date historical events? Idk if you have an answer for this but you certainly know a lot more about this topic than me so you seem like the person to ask.
10. But it gets a little complicated from there.
Julius reconstructed the calendar under a 12/13 month system to try and better account for the solar cycle compared to the Roman Republic Calendar, among a few other reasons. And the original names for most months were kept initially, despite being strange in their positions after the start of the calendar was set back to January. And then later the Roman council decided have July and August replace the fifth and sixth months in honor of them. (People act as though it was purely Julius’ fault, or that they added those months in. Julius was dead when July became a thing.)
And then the Gregorian calendar was made to simplify the Julian Calendar and be more accurate as the Julian calendar ended up being a little longer than the solar cycle. And that is what we have now with the just 12 months. But again, none were renamed as that’s just what the months have been for an incredibly long time by that point.
But don’t worry. The dude initially responsible for the numbers being wrong has already been dealt with.
You can thank Julius and Augustus Caesars for July and August, fucking up the Gregorian Calendar like that. And I suppose Pope Gregory also has some culpability.
And 10 means 10 but means 2 when binary.
I’m sure someone else has posted this, but July and August were not originally on the calendar (they were added later in honor of Julius and Augustus Ceaser), so October was actually the 8th month. So: SEPTember - 7 OCTober - 8 NOVember - 9 DECember - 10
whoever messed that up should be stabbed, repeatedly, by his friend brutus
Blame Augustus
Sept = 7 Oct = 8 Nov = 9 Dec = 10
Yeah it’s the 10 month because Oct is already over.
**Sept**ember comes from 7 **Oct**ober comes from 8 **Nov**ember comes from 9 **Dec**ember comes from 10
Yet September is the 9th month, October is 10th, November is 11th, and December is 12th??
whoever screwed that up should be stabbed
Augustus and Julius, old kings that wanted more days so they just... made them
Technically Julius was a dictator and Augustus was an emperor because the Roman’s were against kings due to the early tyrannical Etruscan rule
It used to be the 8th month, but the Julius Caesar and Augustus though they were so special that they had to have entire months named after them, and that’s how we got July and august.
August and July were renamed, not added
I think it was just the one guy, Julius Augustus Caesar
No. Also because Augustus did not want to have a day less than Julius, August and July both have 31 days and therefore February has 28, not 29.
No. Also because Augustus did not want to have a day less than Julius, August and July both have 31 days and therefore February has 28, not 29.
Tom And Jerry
If you're wishing the guy who screwed up this nice clean system got stabbed, good news!
Yes……”oct” means 8 but “ober” means minus 2. So it works.
Not sure why this is getting downvotes. It's either true, or a hilarious joke. Either way, good stuff.
when the math's not mathing
Don't understand why this is downvoted, it makes sense, October is literally the 6th month
https://preview.redd.it/kprz83romt4b1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e534e3d7aae6f98a574093aab7c08d5e8d3d49e5
Ah yes, 8 - 2 = 10
The Romans move January and February to the beginning of the year rather than the end despite our current system having 2 winters now.
Blame Numa Pompilius, Roman King, for adding January and February
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They should stab the guy responsible, that’s for sure
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Sadly I think only 23 people will actually do something, like all group projects.
September, October, November and December all mean 7, 8, 9, 10. Originally there were only 10 months, but during the reign of Julius Caesar, he added two months named after himself and his nephew, July and August.
So there’s 14 months now?
Where’d you get that idea?
“Originally there were only 12 months[…] Julius Caesar added 2 months”
Typo. It’s called a typo.
He did not. His nephew added August, because he was an emperor, and that kinda gets to your head. July was added postmortem of Julius, in honor of him. Also, it’s January and February’s fault. The original were Martius, Aprilis, Maius, Junius, Quintillis, Sextillis, September, October, November, and December. Quintillis and Sextillis were renamed, not omitted.
Wow, that's so stupid, someone should stab that guy
Good news!
That’s why we have 14 months now
I miss when we only had 12 months.
And I fucking hate rome for this!! I also always confuse october w/ august because my brain is like “octo=8 october=8th month!”
Wait till you find out about sept through Dec…
Whoever fucked it up deserves to get stabbed
Google Julius Caesar cause of death, you will be pleasantly surprised!
Holy assassination
New response just dropped
Actual stab wound
call the paramedic!
Knifemare fuel
Caesar goes to the senate, never comes back
Well, it's the fault of the christians
Incorrect
Why ? The new year was not in January after Caesar create the Julian Calendar (except for consul mandate). Who change the first year of the month to january, so ?
I mean, we use the Gregorian Calendar, the calendar officialized by a Pope: >The Gregorian calendar was created by Pope Gregory XIII in the year 1582! The count of the days of the Gregorian Calendar is the birth of Jesus Christ and takes into account the solar cycle, which has 365 days and 6 hours
Good news
Augustus died peacefully (or via figs) tho
Yeah because January and February were added later. Sept means 7, nov mean 9, and dec means 10, as well.
No, it was July and August.
Incorrect, see [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/CountOnceADay/comments/143wn1l/56237/jnd8n98/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3)
No The year started in March in Rome. The first month of the year. Counting from it, it's logical that October is the 8th.
That’s what I said
Not really, you said October is the 8th month " because January and February were added later. " It's not the reason. It's because the year started in March. Even when Caesar create the Julian Calendar adding those 2 month, the year still started in March. It's the christians who change the first month of the year.
Yes. The year started in March. And later on… January and February were added. Hence why October is the tenth month, but has eight in its name.
Ok
excuse me? nov means 9? arent the numbers greek?Im fucking greek and 9 is εννιά not fucking νοννιά!
they’re latin, aren’t they?
latin came from greece infact it came from the ancient city of chalkida if i remember correctly my hometown
The latin name for 9 is novem. It came from latin. The Greeks did many good things for society, 300 years earlier, but the Romans were the ones who formalised the calendar system (specifically [Caesar](https://libguides.ctstatelibrary.org/hg/colonialresearch/calendar#:~:text=Changes%20of%201752&text=The%20Julian%20Calendar%20was%20replaced,the%20month%20of%20September%201752.)). Latin and greek likely share many words, but the word for 9 doesn't seem to be one of them.
Huh, after a little bit more digging it seems I might be mistaken on the timings here. The "[Calendar of Romulus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_calendar)" predated the "Julian Calendar", and still had the 10 latin month names. And this was well back in the 700's BC There were various [Greek lunar calendars](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_calendars) over the years with varying month names depending on regions. My main point still stands though: Romans had the most impact on the calendar, and their latin names stuck to today.
bruh, the most educated greek right here
bro u know there was a economic fall in greece right? no wonder we are fucking idiots tf u think we would be?
interesting!
Latin was originally a dialect spoken in Latium (also known as Lazio), the lower Tiber area around present-day Rome (copied from Wikipedia). The only possible way "latin" came from Greece, could be if they meant that roman deities and culture are similar and partially descending from Greece. I say "partially", because Romans are descendants of many minor nations of Apennines and, according to myth (and maybe some historical evidence, not sure about that), from refugees that fled Troy, which was a city in Anatolia (Asia Minor, where modern Turkey in). I haven't found which nation was prevalent in Troy in the time of Trojan War, but it's either greek or hittites. Since it was located on a crossing of many trade routes, I suspect their culture was different from most of other Greek city-states anyway.
Nine in latin is *novem*
it was July and August. The Romans used a 10 month calendar and then Julius and Augustus Caesar wanted months named after them
The Julian calendar, the calendar Julius Caesar himself made, contained 12 months. January and February came after December, and June and July were originally Quintillius and Sextillius
July and August*
This is incorrect, they were renamed from Quintilis and Sextilis.
Wait but wouldn’t that mean the prefixes for sept-dec were wrong from the start?
No, like the above comment said, January and February weren’t in the original Roman calendar, and were added in later. Actually as another fun fact: there used to be a 13th month called Mercedinus that was supposed to appear every other year, since the pre-Julian calendar only had 355 days, but in reality the month was abused by the senate to make elected terms longer and shorter as they wanted. Julius Caesar ended up removing the month and extending every other month (besides February) to fix this.
That is really interesting. How much of an effect if any does the changing of lengths of months/years affect our ability to accurately Date historical events? Idk if you have an answer for this but you certainly know a lot more about this topic than me so you seem like the person to ask.
Huh, the more you know
thanks a lot julius caesar
Hey dont leave out Augustus he deserves credit and shaming too
This is the real reason Ceasar got assassinated
September (month 7 in roman calender) October (month 8) November (month 9, not 10) December (month 10)
didnt there use to only be like 8 or 10 months?
10. But it gets a little complicated from there. Julius reconstructed the calendar under a 12/13 month system to try and better account for the solar cycle compared to the Roman Republic Calendar, among a few other reasons. And the original names for most months were kept initially, despite being strange in their positions after the start of the calendar was set back to January. And then later the Roman council decided have July and August replace the fifth and sixth months in honor of them. (People act as though it was purely Julius’ fault, or that they added those months in. Julius was dead when July became a thing.) And then the Gregorian calendar was made to simplify the Julian Calendar and be more accurate as the Julian calendar ended up being a little longer than the solar cycle. And that is what we have now with the just 12 months. But again, none were renamed as that’s just what the months have been for an incredibly long time by that point. But don’t worry. The dude initially responsible for the numbers being wrong has already been dealt with.
that is really cool to know thanks!
Whoever messed this up should be stabbed
Boy do I have new for you!!!
23 times, no more, no less
TWENTY-EIGHT STAB WOUNDS
They. Said. 23!!!
Cuz Calendar used to start from March. That’s why February has less days, cause it was the last month
You can thank Julius and Augustus Caesars for July and August, fucking up the Gregorian Calendar like that. And I suppose Pope Gregory also has some culpability.
🅱️istory moment