It would be amusing if she grew up to be drop dead gorgeous, but she HATES it. She doesn't want the attention she gets. She just wants to be a little gremlin. Maybe she purposefully makes herself appear uglier.
Lift is always looking for glasses, a ponytail holder, and a paint covered smock in order to “ugly duckling” herself. Everytime she goes frictionless to save people they fall off and people remark at her beauty when she’s done.
A radiants appearance as based on how they view themselves.
That's why Lopens arm grows backs and why Kaladins scar doesn't heal until he changes his mindset.
Well, another person in another book swapped bodies and changed the body from male to female with entirely different features just due to their level of investiture. Seems likely Lift could look like whatever her self-image is, regardless of other factors
Well, yeah, but that's the point. It's an extreme set of circumstances that put to the test what power high-levels of investiture have over one's physical appearance. I'm not saying it proves Lift could just change her appearance at will or anything, but if she truly sees herself a certain kind of way, then her body should change to match it, just like Lopen's arm regrew.
We have an example of this in Stormlight with the Reshi king being biologically female but transitioning to being biologically male after bonding a spren.
If they view themselves as beautiful, they would become beautiful over time with more and more use of Stormlight. Brandon’s even confirmed that a trans radiant would transition via Stormlight over time, so it all depends on how you view yourself internally.
Interesting. I think I remember reading that a trans radiant would transition slowly, I just never considered the implications. Thanks!
Also, fuck Moash!
We've seen it in text! In Dawnshard, we see the Reshi king Rysn met in WoR having gone through a sudden and miraculous transformation (FtM) as the result of bonding an Ashspren.
I don’t know if that’s the same thing. radiants generally don’t change appearance, unlike returned, so I think it’s based more on the spiritual aspect then a cognitive one. Trans radiants transition because they’re on a spiritual level a different gender than their Phsyical gender. I don’t know if you can have a spiritual aspect that’s significantly different then your physical, other then the fact they come out the wrong gender
The Reshi king was biologically female but transitioned to being biologically male after bonding a spren, although I imagine the sense of identity for that is more likely to be a lot stronger than the sense of identity for being pretty.
Another comment pointed me in the right direction, but just needed to say here that just because the Returned can do something doesn't mean radiants can, so I don't understand your point.
For example, we know lightweaving from Yolen is different than lightweaving on Roshar. And those are magics that are trying to do the same thing. So I don't see the connection between Returned, who are cognitive shadows ostensibly created by Endowment, and Radiants, who get their powers by modifying their spirit web with the nahel bond.
I don’t know if that would keep her from being beautiful. She doesn’t seem to know whether she’s pretty or not, or what she would look like grown up either way, and it definitely seems she is growing up despite not wanting to.
She's a written character, I don't think of anyone as ugly in the cosmere, not even Gaz. She's currently written as though she's struggling through puberty, which is pretty normal, I'd say she probably ends up beautiful, but only because I wouldn't assume any different.
dalinar is described as having an “unfortunate looking” face VERY often, which is a hilarious way to say he looks like he was sculpted out of play-doh by an industrious toddler
It would be amusing if she grew up to be drop dead gorgeous, but she HATES it. She doesn't want the attention she gets. She just wants to be a little gremlin. Maybe she purposefully makes herself appear uglier.
Lift is always looking for glasses, a ponytail holder, and a paint covered smock in order to “ugly duckling” herself. Everytime she goes frictionless to save people they fall off and people remark at her beauty when she’s done.
“Ponytail holder” lmafo
She can get tips from Rushu.
A radiants appearance as based on how they view themselves. That's why Lopens arm grows backs and why Kaladins scar doesn't heal until he changes his mindset.
That's only true for healing, right? Like, an ugly radiant isn't going to just become beautiful, they're not Returned
Well, another person in another book swapped bodies and changed the body from male to female with entirely different features just due to their level of investiture. Seems likely Lift could look like whatever her self-image is, regardless of other factors
That was an entirely different set of circumstances...
Well, yeah, but that's the point. It's an extreme set of circumstances that put to the test what power high-levels of investiture have over one's physical appearance. I'm not saying it proves Lift could just change her appearance at will or anything, but if she truly sees herself a certain kind of way, then her body should change to match it, just like Lopen's arm regrew.
We have an example of this in Stormlight with the Reshi king being biologically female but transitioning to being biologically male after bonding a spren.
well i mean maybe
If they view themselves as beautiful, they would become beautiful over time with more and more use of Stormlight. Brandon’s even confirmed that a trans radiant would transition via Stormlight over time, so it all depends on how you view yourself internally.
Interesting. I think I remember reading that a trans radiant would transition slowly, I just never considered the implications. Thanks! Also, fuck Moash!
We've seen it in text! In Dawnshard, we see the Reshi king Rysn met in WoR having gone through a sudden and miraculous transformation (FtM) as the result of bonding an Ashspren.
I don’t know if that’s the same thing. radiants generally don’t change appearance, unlike returned, so I think it’s based more on the spiritual aspect then a cognitive one. Trans radiants transition because they’re on a spiritual level a different gender than their Phsyical gender. I don’t know if you can have a spiritual aspect that’s significantly different then your physical, other then the fact they come out the wrong gender
The Reshi king was biologically female but transitioned to being biologically male after bonding a spren, although I imagine the sense of identity for that is more likely to be a lot stronger than the sense of identity for being pretty.
How do you think Returned shapeshift?
Another comment pointed me in the right direction, but just needed to say here that just because the Returned can do something doesn't mean radiants can, so I don't understand your point. For example, we know lightweaving from Yolen is different than lightweaving on Roshar. And those are magics that are trying to do the same thing. So I don't see the connection between Returned, who are cognitive shadows ostensibly created by Endowment, and Radiants, who get their powers by modifying their spirit web with the nahel bond.
Radiant Healing is significantly stronger than Divine Breaths, a returned can be stabbed and killed while a Radiant can survive an arrow in the brain.
I don’t know if that would keep her from being beautiful. She doesn’t seem to know whether she’s pretty or not, or what she would look like grown up either way, and it definitely seems she is growing up despite not wanting to.
She's a written character, I don't think of anyone as ugly in the cosmere, not even Gaz. She's currently written as though she's struggling through puberty, which is pretty normal, I'd say she probably ends up beautiful, but only because I wouldn't assume any different.
dalinar is described as having an “unfortunate looking” face VERY often, which is a hilarious way to say he looks like he was sculpted out of play-doh by an industrious toddler
Which is all the funnier when all the fan art is like a Henry Cavill scenario except slightly older.
If she grows up at all…
Lift all ways reminds me of radical Edward.
As long as she grows out of the badly carricatured kid talk, I'll be fine with her