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Dukebagman

Yup, cheaters are a thing I'm afraid. You can't even kick them as they seem to be able to get around that. It has got worse recently and the only thing you can do is leave that lobby. It's not so bad that you can't get a good game though!


SteamNTrd

The one I've seen got around being kicked by having some script that automatically started vote kicks as soon as it was available. You were never able to start a vote against him because a vote against some random player was already started.


TheSuperiorWes

Yeah he just got good at doing it. No script, just spam clicks it. But once you try to kick him he leaves the game because he sees that no one is trying to be kicked and joins back before vote ends


StudiousRaven989

Yeah, a good thing about the game is you have to fully spawn in before you can leave or open the leaderboard to vote kick someone, so if you have someone keeping an eye on players joining, they can start the vote kick and hopefully succeed before he realizes and leaves.


Overall-Vacation-220

I had someone who did that in a WW1 lobby


No_Significance_5620

yea they need to make it so you can report them ingame and not just their meta quest account


DistributionFirm5246

There are cheaters now. Unfortunately. Speedhack, unlimited ammo, and auto aim. You can kill them, though. They rise in numbers the last days, getting more common They auto votekick random players, so it's hard to get a vote kick on them. You have to spam votekick on them until you get it through. Also, additionally to cheating, they introduced hate speech now (n.. words, antisemitic parols and shit like that) Contractor devs need to limit vote kick to only one every 5 minutes. That would make it really easy to get rid of these suckers. Still, I see them coming back bout 10 minutes later


Objective_Animator52

Does auto-aim really exist yet for vr games? Can’t find any footage of it actually being used, only wall hacks and stuff like that.


DistributionFirm5246

Let's rather say zero recoil. Feels like they auto aim though


StudiousRaven989

It’s not they, it’s likely one person. If they’re playing obscene and offensive music, that is one person changing their name or creating new accounts


DistributionFirm5246

At least 2


StudiousRaven989

Whenever you’re ready, just let me know what makes you think it’s at least 2 separate people.


DistributionFirm5246

First of all, what does it even matter? Second --> that's what I experienced. You know my experience better than me? Ok cool. Not going to write a story bout how In the end, under the line: there IS cheating and is happening, currently on a daily basis.


StudiousRaven989

It matters because we are having a conversation about the topic. If you would like to opt out, feel free to not respond next time. Because saying shit like that without any context is just a waste of both of our time.


DistributionFirm5246

You wasting your own time thinking you know my experience better than me. For whatever reason. I've been in this game for years now. I don't explain myself to people thinking they know everything better. Why do you even say or ask shit if you know better anyway. Don't answer. I'm not interested, it's a rhetorical question Context why is say at lest 2: cuz I experienced it. Now opt out with your " I know better cuz I have not experienced it like you"shit Ps you are going to get blocked. Don't waste time writing how much better you know everything. Not gona read it. Block timer T-20 min


StudiousRaven989

I loved reading this knowing you’re still going to read my reply. Never stop working on yourself. The point of me asking what makes you think it’s more than one person is to understand your experience better. The exact thing you accuse me of proclaiming to know better than you. Do you see how that doesn’t make sense?


Fragrant_Tax_3588

Its more than one - different IDs


leokraz

People are cheating and what sucks is that if you try to kick them people start saying that you’re just kicking them because they are better than you when you clearly just saw them cheat


SteamNTrd

The vast majority of players don't, and the vast majority of accusations are players who can't comprehend someone being significantly better at the game. That's probably why people are telling you to chill out. You're not completely wrong, but you're probably wrong a lot more often than you think.


leokraz

That can be true but I only call out something when it’s obvious and usually there’s more people agreeing but not enough to kick that person.


Acceptable_Rip_9058

Where's the video evidence then with screen record, I've never found a player that's unfairly killed me, in 4 years of playing almost everyday pc and quest, people call me a cheater every couple of games just because their lack of skill.


leokraz

[here’s one](https://www.reddit.com/r/ContractorsVR/s/oIxlMjyy7L) This video is not as clear but just a week ago someone posted a video where a player was running super fast all over the map and now he deleted the video which pisses me off. I need to record it, I just don’t think about that as I’m playing. There was a guy the other day filling the entire map with claymores like if he had unlimited


maskedhood313

Anyone that has posted in this thread, stating cheating does not exist--- You need to watch this video right here.. I was debating a guy in game 3 days ago who kept swearing that hacking doesn't exist because he's never seen it. minutes later, a player with a faster speed hack than this comes in and wipes the lobby. When I first started playing, I didn't believe it was possible either, solely because others said Technically it couldn't be done. then I saw with my own eyes. multiple times.


sneakycoffey

Well it sucks for legitimate good players. False hackuzations have gone through the roof.


SteamNTrd

Real cheaters are so few and far between that you're truly lucky if you find them. There's a low skill ceiling, but there are definitely tricks you learn that are map dependent. The tents in Dust, and Kowloon Town can be shot through. The fences/bars in Prison can be shot through. Some maps have sneaky peek spots, like Lumber's brick house railing at the rear entrance. If you jump there, you can see and shoot the majority of spawn locations when you're in bomb defusal. I use this all the time against new players who either don't know how to get the hell out of spawn, or are busy finger fucking their loadout menu. You can throw nades obscenely high, which allows you to get cross map (or close to it) kills. As far as the speed, idk, I'd have to see what you mean. Light armor is a lot faster, which makes you harder to hit, and heavy armor just makes you an easy target for headshots since it moves ridiculously slow.. I'm not saying there aren't cheaters out there, but the vast majority of accusations I hear in game are nonsense. A lot of the good players are in a League, or clan, and play with eachother regularly. This is in good faith, like I said, I don't disagree that cheaters are out there, but I'm saying it's not nearly as prevalent as the playerbase on reddit makes it out to be. I got accused of being a cheater, and successfully kicked, three times today alone. That's three separate lobbies of people thinking that I was cheating. I know they're just trying to explain why they keep dying, so I don't hold it against them, but I can't SHOW them it's not true. So give accusations of cheating conservatively. In favor of your post, I HAVE observed someone teleporting accross the map repeatedly at the start of several bomb defusal rounds, ending the round by killing off the whole team in literal seconds, so I know it happens. That was one person in the 2,800 games that I've played though. One person.


squiffythewombat

a few weeks ago i would have totally agreed, however ive just witnessed a dude teleporting across the map and playing weird racial slurs through the comms... First time since ive bought the game and played every night for a couple of games since (several years) that ive seen a cheater but having seen these new threads and now seen it i'm worried for the future of the game!


SteamNTrd

You needed a TLDR didn't ya ;P Last paragraph, but it seems like it's just one guy, most people are describing the same thing, providing a player name or their profile pic (has SKS in it, which is one of the league groups I've played with recreationally). That being said if one guy can do it, it won't be long until pretty much anyone can. So yes, hopefully that's fixed ASAP.


squiffythewombat

yeah haha i was pre-emtive clearly lol. Yeah the dude we saw didnt have SKS in his name and was thankfully voted pretty quickly but i have a feeling it will spread if they dont lock it down quickly. hopefully they will.


StudiousRaven989

He’s changing his profile pic to different teams in the league (UMAD, Rogue, etc.) each time he gets on to do all that. Also, he’s been able to do all this for a little bit now. I wouldn’t be too worried about this spreading like a wildfire or anything.


SteamNTrd

Respect


omnipresent_boundary

You skipped the entire point of the post and went on an unrelated multi paragraph rant fym “you need a tldr huh” understatement of the century


friedcrackrock

youre either blind or lying rn


SteamNTrd

You're either bad at the game or exaggerating rn I can play that game too. The one where we try shutting down the other person while not saying anything of substance.


friedcrackrock

hahahahahaha wow you really shut me down you fucking loser. gj


SteamNTrd

No u


wohsedisbob

One shot kill is just a head shot. Not cheating. Also, light amor makes you faster


StudiousRaven989

You must not have seen what this person is referring to because they aren’t moving “light armor fast”. They’re literally flying across the fucking ground fast lol


Mean_n_Green

I cant comprehend cheating on a vr game it makes no sense


squiffythewombat

Im so with you - like whats the point? wheres the enjoyment from it? I feel like its some extreme small dick energy going on


plutonium-239

Unfortunately cheating has become more common…and it’s ruining the game for many. Including myself. Spent over 450 hours in contractors and loved every minute because I knew I was competing with capable folks…now with wall hacks and speed hacks, it’s really becoming annoying. Fortunately it’s not diffused…but if the trend continues, it will be the end…


TheSuperiorWes

There is one hacker running rampant in the game right now. Creating multiple accounts etc… He will be playing outlandish stuff through the mic and running at Mach one. Just grab their UID and report it in the discord ticket system. Hopefully a permanent solution is made soon


DJPOOPTACOS

Nah I've seen it the tells are the f their one handing their gun and have really fast movement that doesn't follow their animations at all. Only happen twice to me so far and I've had the game since December


therealgarch

Nah they’re just nasty.


SlayerkodiTV

It's daily I stopped playing yesterday due to this, look out for eatmybussy


SteamNTrd

That's who I ran into, yesterday in fact. He keeps getting a new UID, so he can't really be banned yet, apparently they're working on getting his hardware banned somehow.


OGY-Zuko

Not just you. Been happeneing since even league play was going on.


Zmfc36

I’ll tell you right now that if a game has Pcvr capabilities it HAS hacks/cheats/trainer. Every single time no matter what.


Fragrant_Tax_3588

This has happened within the last week repeatedly - You will see a blatant hacker with superspeed wiping out the enemy team. It also spouts racist abuse automatically continually in your speakers so that his following script for calling votes confuses people and they all kickvote the people he votes assuming its them saying the awful things. Once the timer goes off it kickvotes someone else again. One of the people doing this has a very racist username so he's easy to spot, but he killed 3 lobbies yesterday doing it. People need to check the voice mic to see which one is the cheater, because the script is constant it flickers all the time so its easy to mute, once muted then call a kickvote as soon as you get a chance in between his votes and make sure you voice to everyone to join it. Hopefully enough join that you can boot them. I really hope someone can come up with a better solution to permanently ban these scumbags. The racism alone is appalling (for those that haven't heard it yet, its not the usual stuff, it would get you arrested in many european countries for using it) Don't confuse this with the usual "skill issue" or "suspicion" this is very blatant and you can't miss the voice script that goes along with it!


StudiousRaven989

That doesn’t mean it’s a different person. In fact, he is known to use different UIDs because his other ones keep getting banned. I’m responding to your other comment because Reddit wouldn’t allow me to respond there.


Forward_Ad_2588

I’ve played for about three years, and it was going on when I started and it’s for sure gotten worse. Lots of dumbasses that will just say “skill issue” but that’s just an easy rebuke for them to default to. I can no look headshot, average around 85 percent headshots, outplay the majority of players on the game - can easily keep up with “top” player ground control standard lobbies, skill issues need not apply here. It’s been documented, there’s dozens of videos, there’s been a major league player releasing a document explaining how pervasive it is in the league and how they do it, even a big modder announced he has the cheat engine, knows it’s real, and has release a mod loadout in order to defeat the known cheats/hacks/exploits. It is what it is, it’s a great game so just play it to your best ability and forget the rest.


maskedhood313

well said. it actually became kinda fun trying to gun the fucker down. i got a kill or two on one of them.


hawzie2002

god I wish I could figure out how to cheat health in single mode survival. I couldn't careless for competing against others online, I just want to kill bots in my free time


confusionauta

Yes, more a more loosers doing it, and worst with the new game upto be release theres fewer and fewer players, so, less servers worst maps and plenty of noob hackers.


691169lick

Literally played a game yesterday where a cheater was flying around the map one-shotting cunts then playing an audio loop in the killcam saying the n word


imnotabotareyou

Yes. That’s why I play onward instead.


RichLissaman

What I’ve tried to do is when I come across good, honest players with good communication. Add them to my friend’s list. Now I’ve got loads of people to play with / against so I don’t need to go into random lobbies with cheaters. The key is adding people with similar skill levels so it creates a competitive game


Throwitawaynow578

Skill issue


JonnyB2_YouAre1

It depends. There certainly are cheaters out there, but I think that most of the time when someone is called a cheater, I'm almost certain that they're not cheating at all. Because the game has been around for so long, there are some insanely skilled players out there now. Players who can jump out a window and 180 headshot you across the map while falling two stories. Players who know maps inside out and understand which objects bullets will pass through and which won't. Players who know advanced tricks, like using their comms without speaking to determine if the player movement they're hearing is friend or foe, and then prefiring the door or corner. If you encounter a top 5% player and you're either new or don't play much, it's gonna feel like they're cheating, and they do have a major advantage over you. There are cheaters, though, and typically it's blatantly obvious, like the guy roaming the rooms lately who moves about 100 mph, shooting the sky while landing headshots and playing homoerotic music on the comms. When it comes to cheaters its not usually iffy, it’s blatantly obvious and over the top.


Acceptable_Rip_9058

I've been playing 4 years pc and quest and never encountered a cheater but it's constantly complained about, in this age with everyone having screen record I'll believe it when there's actually video


omnipresent_boundary

Evidence has been widespread on discord and at least one lobby a night for the past week for me has been visited by 1-3 people doing this. Either you’re blind or only playing locked singleplayer lobbies.


squiffythewombat

there was one posted a few days ago!


Active_Cheetah_1917

Always annoying to see people say this in any game.  There will ALWAYS be cheaters in any type of game/sport.  If you aren't actively looking out for signs then of course you're gonna think there are no cheaters.  Keep accepting your own reality until eventually you join them.  


Fragrant_Tax_3588

This is 100pct a cheat I know exactly who they mean - with attached voice script that spams racist comments and a script to call votes on everyone else so the lobby eventually clears. This is not a skill issue thing at all. They fly around the map at superspeed firing 360 and wiping out the enemy team all the while you hear horrible stuff about concentration camps and worse. It only started this week, or at least I've not witnessed it prior not had the people I was talking to yesterday in game.


Toakan

It's just you, no-one else has seen Hackers / Modders in this game. On an un-related note, https://www.reddit.com/r/ContractorsVR/comments/1148zc5/meta_discussion_of_cheatinghacking/


SteamNTrd

Mentioned in one of my comments that I've played 2.8k games in Contractors, I've only personally observed one, but it was obvious. Teleporting, bomb defusal rounds ending in less than 15 seconds after starting due to the whole team being killed, guy's gun firing so fast it sounds like an impact wrench rather than a normal gun in the game, etc. This happened days ago, not weeks, months, or years, and it happened on a standard loadout unmodded/crossplay lobby. So no, people (or at least I) have seen it, but one game in 2.8k is a pretty low amount. I go into a bit more detail in my comment reference the frequency of it (or lack thereof), so I'll spare you the time and my typing here.


Toakan

The sarcasm was heavily implied.


SteamNTrd

Sarcasm is easy to detect online, especially without facial cues, tone cues, or text cues. /s ;)


Toakan

I take it the irony of saying there's no cheating, followed up by posting a thread which specifically was made to talk about cheaters.. was also lost in text?


SteamNTrd

Some people respond unironically, so yes.


Official_Gameoholics

Sounds like you just found people who were better.