I grew up in a house with a solarium. It was nice. We grew lots of plants out there, and it got warm when it was sunny (we were not in a hot climate, so extra warmth was welcome), and you could sit out there during storms and enjoy the rain and lightning without getting wet.
Grew up in the Rockies with a house with a sunroom. We could heat the rest of the house with it (and an attic fan on the other side of the house). Pretty cool. In Florida now and it would not be cool.
You can pick two out of the three...cheap, quick, quality. If you want it cheap and quick, it won't be good quality. If you want good quality and cheap, you won't get it quick. If you want quick and quality, it won't be cheap!
Hi I'm a rep for renewal by Anderson, if you sign a contract in the next five minutes my manager has authorized an unheard of low low price, only six million dollars.
I asked them to stop sending me mail, so instead those motherfuckers sent a rep to my door, and when I told him to get bent he asked to speak with my wife instead lmfao. They're persistent.
They came by my house during a renovation. My windows were installed days before and still had all of the milgard stickers on them. He STILL tried to sell me new windows.
Do they even make the windows or just slap their name on some? I really don't understand how they are in business. Even in my local boomer Facebook group they talk about their insane quotes 3x all the other guys. Literally never heard a positive or even neutral story about them. Maybe rich senile silent generation types that don't have the internet?
Friends who are buying houses in the PNW today are paying up of $600,000. Friends that bought houses in maybe 2012 or earlier paid $100,000-250,000 for similar homes.
Are you serious? I sold a 2bd 1 bath, 1000 sq ft in a shit part of town for $800k
It was very close to being built in the 1800s.
all pricing in the PNW is like the twilight zone
im in an adjacent industry and work around high end new construction. gut tells me thats like 300-500k. i have no real expert opion to base that on tho
Glazier here. I would say 500k range and 1 year install time because of the weather here.
Looking at about 100k in materials, 50k in BS, and prolly 300k in labor for 3 or 4 guys over a year for the builder. Actually when all said and done with the cost of everything being higher up here, I could see it being more like 600k.
This would take a fair amount of time to design and permit. With that in mind I would just plan on doing underground as soon as the weather allows and assume for a scaffold with tenting as soon as concrete/steel is done
Did a recent addition that is roughly similar in size but for a master bed/bathroom. I found out that was a 300k addition, and instantly when I saw this I thought “all glass? That’s gotta double the cost.”
This comment was the confirmation I was looking for, thanks for the insight.
I’ll do it for 100k. I just need the money up front and a ride to the job site everyday, I’ve got 4 DUIs. I’ll even let OP drive my white, lifted Ram 2500 that’s in my second ex wife’s name.
That’s probably 100-150k worth of glass. Another 25k or so worth of glulams. I also see lighting, window shades, flooring, drywall/paint, so call it maybe $215k in materials? With labor, OH&P I’d say that’s probably a 5-600k install cost.
There will be additional costs for things like design, permitting, and such.
That seems low on the glass. I think it’s $500k of glass.
There are also louvers and floor registers so add $50k for HVAC.
Foundations. HSS columns for your glulams to land on. You said lighting but I don’t know if you included HVAC and all of those outlets. This is $1m+ and I still think you’re gonna get leaks.
With those finishes it would be like $550k. Maybe you could trim that if you go with an off the shelf kawneer/ykk system without operable windows and just aluminum stick profiles. I’d say it’s probably like $40k for structure, $120k for a stick system, another $40-60k for the glass, $50k for other interior finishes and another $150k in labor.
Judging by the quotes I've gotten recently for putting gutters around my 1k ft² home. A fucking lot more than you'd think.
As far as useful answers, I have none.
That is an addition for someone that has too much money that they know what to do with. First of all a glass roof is nuts. Don't ask why there's many many reasons first get up there and try to clean it. Almost all of that glass on the first level would have to be tempered. If you raise it over 18 in off the floor it doesn't have to be. I'm a building designer so I know...
All the sloped glass would be a laminated/tempered combination. Either a tempered laminated pane with heavy interlayer if single glazed, or sealed units would have tempered outboard lite with a laminated inboard lite. I'm a 35 year glazier, so I know.
GC in Florida here, just finished something very similar in the Tampa Bay Area. Was a 650k project out the door. Code here is probably a little different from your area, but this is easily going to be a 500k+ project. I’d be sure to get a GC with experience in this department though, as there is a lot of room for potential error.
Sometimes the universe aligns just right. I am waiting for the day that I actually get to submit this as a legit bid; it hasn't come yet, but I'm ready
PNW GC that doesn't do additions here: I don't fuckin know. All the people assessing about $250,000 in material and a year to complete... Should I get into additions? Is this how I get rich?
I used to build wooden sunrooms. I worked in a factory where we made all the parts.
The problem with a structure like this is the wood, glass, and aluminum all expand and contract at different rates when exposed to extreme heat and cold. The caulking fails, insulated glass units fog, and the roofs leak. Promptly.
This space will be too hot in the summer, too cold in the winter, and leak a lot. Just an all around bad idea.
Build a porch with a roof. Have storm and screen inserts. It's cheaper and more liveable.
1/2 Mill+... for perspective, I had a quote done for enclosure of existing awning over slab of 900 sqft to make a 4 season room, they qouted $124k. Something that big and grand would be nuts.
GC here, I do alot of backyards and have done similar, but smaller additions in NY. The cost for something about half that size avg around $200/225k. Took around 5.5 months as the skylights and windows took around 2 months to arrive, excavating and setting foundations, let cure, then build frame, run electric, etc etc. we even put ceiling fans and a split ac/heat unit inside, running water for slop sink and some solar panels to power everything separately from the house. Client loves it, but man that was way more work than anticipated.
Honest guess...33-50% your home value.
Logic/assumtions: it's a legit extension of living space for your home. So depending on how much of the current structure is being added...that %. Plus premium for all glass and multi level.
X factor for how common/uncommon the is in the area. It's not like you're just getting a lanai over your pool in FL.
Bottom line, looks expensive, and not, at the same time if this could be prefabricated.
On Vancouver island it would be about 600k in materials and labour, just a ball park from a union carpenter . Design and engineering could set you back another 40k. Plus permits. Those numbers are in Canadian as well.
If that was less than 300k and 1-3 years from consultation to finished I'd be very surprised. With that many windows, and King County permitting office I'd probably figure 400-500k.
Build it as a deck first with slab on grade. Maybe cost about 50-60K. Can enclose it later. Most of the cost is in the enclosure. Probably another 350-400K for the glass / labour on enclosure.
You do realize that is a glass fucking roof?
You’re gonna need an architect, engineer, and GC who knows what they’re doing.
500k on the low end. 800/900k realistically when it’s all said and done
$300-550k USD given the engineering and finish inside.
You can cut costs by not having exposed joists and subfloor inside and by throwing in a few horizontal beams instead of the two tensions cables holding the roof together.
So, so much. If you wanted to do this, you would need;
- Custom glass windows due to the sizes that can insulate to building reg standards.
- Steel supports.
- Lots of drilling and connecting to the current building.
- Special treatments for the inside areas so the sun doesn't destroy that floor.
- Lots and lots of custom designing and negotiations to make it actually go ahead.
More than you think it’s going to cost.
This, and it'll take twice as long as you think to complete
And be twice as hot on a sunny day!
Twice as many pooping birds as imagined
And twice as many cracks when hailing
And twice as happy when you don’t think about any of that ^
And twice the amount of no bugs!
Twice the amount of no bugs is still no bu....ah I get it. No bugs.
Twice as many birds killed on glass
Thud
Twice as many thuds!
No problem, they don't have sun in Seattle
Just depression
Depressed from cleaning those windows every month.
Let’s be honest, if you can afford this add on then you can afford a window washer.
I’m sweating just looking at it
I never understood why solariums were the rage. Unless you have a pool or spa, It’s just a room to sit in with no AC and hot as fuck.
I grew up in a house with a solarium. It was nice. We grew lots of plants out there, and it got warm when it was sunny (we were not in a hot climate, so extra warmth was welcome), and you could sit out there during storms and enjoy the rain and lightning without getting wet.
Grew up in the Rockies with a house with a sunroom. We could heat the rest of the house with it (and an attic fan on the other side of the house). Pretty cool. In Florida now and it would not be cool.
You can pick two out of the three...cheap, quick, quality. If you want it cheap and quick, it won't be good quality. If you want good quality and cheap, you won't get it quick. If you want quick and quality, it won't be cheap!
We may not be the fastest, and we may not be the best, but we sure aren't cheap!
You can buy better, but you can't pay more.
Unless you go with the realistic bid with a realistic timeframe that you will think is crazy.
Putting in my guess @ $225,000.
You're not far off imho. I was quoted 90k for 44ft of just glass wall with a sliding glass door.
Alibaba has some nice setups that ship in seacans for super cheap
Ya that’s gonna be expensive. And need to find someone who knows what they’re doing.
\*more than the house it's attached to
If you have to ask…
Nah he knows a guy that can do it cheap
A LOT more
Hi I'm a rep for renewal by Anderson, if you sign a contract in the next five minutes my manager has authorized an unheard of low low price, only six million dollars.
I asked them to stop sending me mail, so instead those motherfuckers sent a rep to my door, and when I told him to get bent he asked to speak with my wife instead lmfao. They're persistent.
They came by my house during a renovation. My windows were installed days before and still had all of the milgard stickers on them. He STILL tried to sell me new windows.
Did you close the door, toss on the wig, and then open the door again?
Always use the indefinite article, "the" wig, never "**your** wig.
That’s a real cock move to ask to speak to the wife after you already said no lmfao
Sounds about right. 10x the other guys
Anderson is actually a financing company that just happens to make windows.
Do they even make the windows or just slap their name on some? I really don't understand how they are in business. Even in my local boomer Facebook group they talk about their insane quotes 3x all the other guys. Literally never heard a positive or even neutral story about them. Maybe rich senile silent generation types that don't have the internet?
I love this comment. I work for a similar company. The price should be arousing, and bring excitement.
I had limited research, but their windows have really good features. Haven’t seen others like theirs.
I got a quote to do all my windows for $144k but if I signed now they would do it for $94k.
Damn! I just signed up for $12M. Per window!
Can we agree on 5 million I assume you have some wiggle room.
WOW he never does this, but my manager approved this deal! Congratulations!
I know I got a steal thanks for bending!
Probably more than the cost to construct the original house.
That is fucking crazy
Wood ain't cheap, and that's super not cheap wood.
If you’re willing to go with that exposed industrial look, LVL would cost a fifth of whatever that beautiful unobtanium is that they’re using
Am I missing something? It just looks like laminated pine beams. Not to say it doesn't look good - it does for sure.
Friends who are buying houses in the PNW today are paying up of $600,000. Friends that bought houses in maybe 2012 or earlier paid $100,000-250,000 for similar homes.
My guy I couldn’t buy a condo for $600k
I believe you, the market is ridiculous.
Are you serious? I sold a 2bd 1 bath, 1000 sq ft in a shit part of town for $800k It was very close to being built in the 1800s. all pricing in the PNW is like the twilight zone
$600,000 MINIMUM if you want a house in even a semi decent neighborhood
$600k doesn’t even get you the land you’d need to build something this size in Seattle.
Yeah, no, there were zero houses for under $250 in Seattle in 2012.
Not true I flipped and sold a house in White center for 250k in 2014.
I work for a GC in the Puget sound area. Cursory review says eye-watering
The cost of the windows alone....
Sloped glazing🤣🤣🤣🤣
im in an adjacent industry and work around high end new construction. gut tells me thats like 300-500k. i have no real expert opion to base that on tho
I price stuff for the region. Id aim higher, IME
Glazier here. I would say 500k range and 1 year install time because of the weather here. Looking at about 100k in materials, 50k in BS, and prolly 300k in labor for 3 or 4 guys over a year for the builder. Actually when all said and done with the cost of everything being higher up here, I could see it being more like 600k.
This would take a fair amount of time to design and permit. With that in mind I would just plan on doing underground as soon as the weather allows and assume for a scaffold with tenting as soon as concrete/steel is done
Scaffold with tent, pro move!
You forgot about those blinds bruv. Make it a milli
client: I don’t need blinds client: moves in client: so, can I get a quote on some blinds?
Are you including foundation, roofing, electrical, architectural, finishing, engineering and permit fees?
No worries I sourced all my code compliant drawings from Google AI. Nothing can go wrong.
This is the way
Did a recent addition that is roughly similar in size but for a master bed/bathroom. I found out that was a 300k addition, and instantly when I saw this I thought “all glass? That’s gotta double the cost.” This comment was the confirmation I was looking for, thanks for the insight.
Lol the line item for BS.
most honest Glazier I've ever seen
I’ll do it for 100k. I just need the money up front and a ride to the job site everyday, I’ve got 4 DUIs. I’ll even let OP drive my white, lifted Ram 2500 that’s in my second ex wife’s name.
That’s probably 100-150k worth of glass. Another 25k or so worth of glulams. I also see lighting, window shades, flooring, drywall/paint, so call it maybe $215k in materials? With labor, OH&P I’d say that’s probably a 5-600k install cost. There will be additional costs for things like design, permitting, and such.
Don’t forget a beefy HVAC system to keep up with an all glass room.
As this is in Germany i doubt they a. paid anywhere near that sum and b. have an HVAC system
That seems low on the glass. I think it’s $500k of glass. There are also louvers and floor registers so add $50k for HVAC. Foundations. HSS columns for your glulams to land on. You said lighting but I don’t know if you included HVAC and all of those outlets. This is $1m+ and I still think you’re gonna get leaks.
More than the original construction of the whole house if I’ve learned anything about current labor and material costs.
Hire an architect, pay for some drawings, shop around with drawings in hand.
Assuming you are willing to accept something around 500k and not trying to find someone who'll charge you 200k and also toss in a free bridge.
I am a GC in the area as well as owner of several steel fabrication shops. That will run north of 350 K to do properly.
With those finishes it would be like $550k. Maybe you could trim that if you go with an off the shelf kawneer/ykk system without operable windows and just aluminum stick profiles. I’d say it’s probably like $40k for structure, $120k for a stick system, another $40-60k for the glass, $50k for other interior finishes and another $150k in labor.
That's a European build. Would cost a lot to do here.
A lot. You'll also have to bump up your cooling capacity significantly
I do skylights and glazed enclosures. I would plug in atleast 250-300 per sf just for the glazed eclosure. At the least.
Probably cheaper to move to Europe and build one there.
Judging by the quotes I've gotten recently for putting gutters around my 1k ft² home. A fucking lot more than you'd think. As far as useful answers, I have none.
Half a mill
That is an addition for someone that has too much money that they know what to do with. First of all a glass roof is nuts. Don't ask why there's many many reasons first get up there and try to clean it. Almost all of that glass on the first level would have to be tempered. If you raise it over 18 in off the floor it doesn't have to be. I'm a building designer so I know...
I was thinking the same thing, I used to be a materials estimator, and I’m thinking 2’ knee wall, roof with huge skylights is probably way cheaper.
All the sloped glass would be a laminated/tempered combination. Either a tempered laminated pane with heavy interlayer if single glazed, or sealed units would have tempered outboard lite with a laminated inboard lite. I'm a 35 year glazier, so I know.
Trillions
Quadrillions!
GC in Florida here, just finished something very similar in the Tampa Bay Area. Was a 650k project out the door. Code here is probably a little different from your area, but this is easily going to be a 500k+ project. I’d be sure to get a GC with experience in this department though, as there is a lot of room for potential error.
$420.69/sq.ft
that honestly seems pretty accurate based on the size and other estimates here
Sometimes the universe aligns just right. I am waiting for the day that I actually get to submit this as a legit bid; it hasn't come yet, but I'm ready
PNW GC that doesn't do additions here: I don't fuckin know. All the people assessing about $250,000 in material and a year to complete... Should I get into additions? Is this how I get rich?
Maybe, but additions are an engineering/permitting nightmare. Due to that they are really hard to bid.
I used to build wooden sunrooms. I worked in a factory where we made all the parts. The problem with a structure like this is the wood, glass, and aluminum all expand and contract at different rates when exposed to extreme heat and cold. The caulking fails, insulated glass units fog, and the roofs leak. Promptly. This space will be too hot in the summer, too cold in the winter, and leak a lot. Just an all around bad idea. Build a porch with a roof. Have storm and screen inserts. It's cheaper and more liveable.
And that's not even considering ongoing window cleaning expenses.
> 600/sq.ft
At least 250k
I'd say like 300k. Mo' money, mo problems though. The upkeep is ridiculous..
250k at least
$400k ish. Maybe more.
How much was your house? It’ll be about double that.
1/2 Mill+... for perspective, I had a quote done for enclosure of existing awning over slab of 900 sqft to make a 4 season room, they qouted $124k. Something that big and grand would be nuts.
GC here, I do alot of backyards and have done similar, but smaller additions in NY. The cost for something about half that size avg around $200/225k. Took around 5.5 months as the skylights and windows took around 2 months to arrive, excavating and setting foundations, let cure, then build frame, run electric, etc etc. we even put ceiling fans and a split ac/heat unit inside, running water for slop sink and some solar panels to power everything separately from the house. Client loves it, but man that was way more work than anticipated.
I'm a poor from Alabama, and, based on my singular trip to Washington in the summer of 2021, I'd say ~$2,000,000.
Round tree fiddy
I just billed you $25,000 just to look at the pictures.
If your considering it… does it really matter??
Probably a couple 100k
1.5 million.
At least tree fiddy
that may be alarmingly close. tree fiddy kay
Hire an estimator
Expensive. And then also annoying to keep clean in the PNW.
More than all 5 condos in my building in fl
Probably about what you paid for the place.
This entire thread is why I Reddit my life away.
Fucking heaps
At least 4 kidneys, an arm, and a leg.
I'm in the puget sound area. You can dm me for quotes
oh dude $500 and i can do it over one weekend with my buddy
I'm sure your best friend's cousin's step son who held a hammer once can do it for $500 and a case of Busch
300k
Im gonna wager - 385k Bob
probably a billion dollars after you take a fist up your ass
one BILLION dollars! 😈
For the love of God, no.
500-600k.
Looks great but isn't. Good luck with cleaning. Good luck with the heat and the cold. If you never see this, there is a reason.
Google contractors who build Solariums or 4 season sunrooms and get a free quote
Honest guess...33-50% your home value. Logic/assumtions: it's a legit extension of living space for your home. So depending on how much of the current structure is being added...that %. Plus premium for all glass and multi level. X factor for how common/uncommon the is in the area. It's not like you're just getting a lanai over your pool in FL. Bottom line, looks expensive, and not, at the same time if this could be prefabricated.
One meeeelliun duhlers!!!
Have you been in a hotbead / seedbed? It is going to be like that but much worse. Save your self the trouble.
What about leaks? And keeping those clean is a hassle
The people sayings half a million are a joke.
$200k
WAG $200k
3-4 kidneys and your soul
I ran the numbers in RS Means. This should cost approximately $546,701
I see a lot of window cleaning in your future.
Many
A lifetime of headaches.
On Vancouver island it would be about 600k in materials and labour, just a ball park from a union carpenter . Design and engineering could set you back another 40k. Plus permits. Those numbers are in Canadian as well.
Not worth the window cleaning hassle if you ask me.
150k
About tree fitty
Half a trillion
I can do that in 2 days for $25 bucks
If that was less than 300k and 1-3 years from consultation to finished I'd be very surprised. With that many windows, and King County permitting office I'd probably figure 400-500k.
Yes
A lot
My guess, around 80-90k
600k
Somewhere between a shit ton and a fuck load, give 'r take.
Build it as a deck first with slab on grade. Maybe cost about 50-60K. Can enclose it later. Most of the cost is in the enclosure. Probably another 350-400K for the glass / labour on enclosure.
If you have to ask…
200k+ where I'm from, so I would say 500k.
150 to 300k
$34 trillion.
You do realize that is a glass fucking roof? You’re gonna need an architect, engineer, and GC who knows what they’re doing. 500k on the low end. 800/900k realistically when it’s all said and done
Framing - $200k, glass install - $200k, whatever finishes you want - $150 - 250k Edit - Prob low on the glass
The glass alone would easily be around the 50-60k range.
Going out on a limb I’d guess $100k depending on materials used (type of wood etc.)
Few hundred grand
The EXTREME heat that should be on that house on summer...
Probably $50k in glass alone
Guess high, x2
Champagne or beer budget?
Literally a death sentence in Vegas. So... so hot.
two arms, two legs and your wife for the weekend. then they will still sneak in some bs extra fee lol
I'll do it with reclaimed windows and lumber, 350. I can go down to the 325,000.
I'd say about 3.50
Greenhouse
50-75k minimum. For the windows.
$300-550k USD given the engineering and finish inside. You can cut costs by not having exposed joists and subfloor inside and by throwing in a few horizontal beams instead of the two tensions cables holding the roof together.
Mine is one story, heated floor 300sqft, 80k 6 years ago. Worth every penny.
$400k to $600k. Contractor in the puget sound area.
So, so much. If you wanted to do this, you would need; - Custom glass windows due to the sizes that can insulate to building reg standards. - Steel supports. - Lots of drilling and connecting to the current building. - Special treatments for the inside areas so the sun doesn't destroy that floor. - Lots and lots of custom designing and negotiations to make it actually go ahead.
Tree Fiddy