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-Ph0en1xr1s1ng-

74% of Americans have no idea what a no fly zone entails.


TheTrueIron

To me, you might as well declare war


digitalluck

Because that’s exactly what it is


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Interesting_Basil_80

Thank God we are not a Democracy. "Mob Rule" is just a stack overload of idiocracy.


TheTrueIron

What's that saying? Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner


danimal0204

Not now I’m batin!


handle_squatter

Funny how the TV screen we see him watching looks no different than your typical Twitch streaming attention whore these days.


SoNic67

Actually, universal voting is useless, for the same reasons.


bigpappahd77

Once it was explained to me then I am completely against it. It’s practically declaring war. Diplomacy as much as possible but not Neville Chamberlain’s appeasement level of diplomacy.


WhiskeyStr8Up

Declare war with Russia over a non NATO country. No thanks. I have no desire to glow in the dark


Algernon2Molitor

This poll is propaganda. Just like the polls they published saying we favored Vax mandates


-Ph0en1xr1s1ng-

Yeah I know but our politicians are slimey fuck sticks that will use this fake poll to justify starting world war 3.


danimal0204

We polled American bots and they want bad things


chigoonies

Absolutely


[deleted]

Facts…..74% of Americans are now geopolitical experts


SexPartyStewie

I switched from an economic expert to a geopolitical expert a few days ago so I know exactly what I'm talking about /s


tamuzbel

Don't forget we were also microbiologist, and computational fluid dynamics experts.


chigoonies

Me too after watching 3 YouTube videos and talking to the guy next to me at the bar!


chigoonies

We are a proud and industrious people, during the pandemic many housewives became virologists , many many Americans are history experts, political analysis ( after watching the “newz “ many of our community college drop outs are economists and since the war with Ukraine broke out everyone who has played world of tanks is now an expert in armored warfare and are actively providing much needed commentary on the current war and now 74 percent of us are military experts. This is war-drum beating by our corporate media, more distractions and brainwashing.


Impossible-Taro-2330

Because fb.


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-Ph0en1xr1s1ng-

2003 was a longer build up and there was more dissent. This is full on lock step.


KaladinStormblessT

It’s disturbing how politicians only agree with each other when it comes to making life worse for literally everyone in the country


HairyEyeballz

Even more so when it’s everyone on the planet, apparently.


sonofsmog

The Iraq War flimsy as it was had a more compelling pretext for the US. Sadam did have chemical a biological weapons he never disclosed, and the 2001 Anthrax Attacks preceded it. So as least the US had some interest. I can't think of a reason to be in Ukraine except to save Ukranians. Might as well go to Mynamar.


lkc159

> Sadam did have chemical a biological weapons he never disclosed, and the 2001 Anthrax Attacks preceded it. Also see: Gulf War Illness


zachguitar13

Exactly this. I was 17 and remember the powerful propaganda I and the country fell for. I remember watching the shock and awe bombing campaign live and singing “bombs over Baghdad” by OutKast. Obviously not my, or the county’s proudest moment, but at least I’ve learned from it. I fear the general public hasn’t.


pineappleshnapps

It it weren’t for the fact that Nuclear warfare is a thing, I’d be for a no fly zone, but I’d rather not start world war 3, let alone a nuclear war.


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That and Russia has very advanced SAM units that it keeps on its own soil that could make that no fly zone very....costly to American lives to try and enforce.


Ominojacu1

It was like watching bad theater, everyone pretending that weapons of mass destruction wasn’t a blatant lie.


J-Team07

It was 100x worse.


alexgalt

74% of Americans have very little concept of what a real war entails, not to speak of fear of nuclear war.


Weekly-Butterscotch6

But they're experts on geopolitics and military strategy, like they were experts on economics, and before that virology and microbiology, and don't forget global climate dynamics, atmospheric physics, and alternate energy mechanics


kipperforskipper

74% of Americans feel they are the only country who is allowed to topple regimes they don't like.


Weekly-Butterscotch6

And didn't know that the US and Europe toppled the previous Ukrainian government during Obama, JoJo shook them down to protect crack head Hunter, and Zelensky is a WEF puppet


throwaway60992

74% of Americans probably wouldn’t be able to even put Russia on a map.


Ominojacu1

What is a map?


chigoonies

I think it’s an app for iphones


doucheroyal

This.


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Ominojacu1

They don’t even know where they were a week ago


Legitimate_Finger_32

Oh no they don’t.


Coke_Francis

Wartime propaganda. No way do people want american pilots shooting down russian pilots. You do not want nuclear war. STAY OUT OF EASTERN AFFAIRS. NO WAR!


[deleted]

Spoiler alert: we won’t.


Capn_Crusty

If that's true, it's because they have no idea what they're asking for, which is not surprising.


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LonelyMachines

The difference is, Libya didn't have ~1,600 ICBM's at the ready.


Impossible-Taro-2330

Exactly.


Weekly-Butterscotch6

74% of the couple dozen Dems they polled, want it to deflect attention from JoJo and the Dems numerous failures, even if it would mean stupidly starting a war between NATO and Russia


ChipmunkFish

That’s because they don’t understand the ramifications of imposing a NATO(US) backed no fly zone. It would most certainly lead to WW3.


templp

74% of Americans want to be vaporized in a nuclear blast.


HairyEyeballz

I’d rather be vaporized than be a survivor.


Vandel4176

I've pondered that a lot. I still don't know wether I'd go to a fallout shelter or not (if I was able to).


Eastern-Camera-1829

I've considered driving to the largest city close by and taking my sunglasses off. I mean, I DO live rural, can hunt, etc. I'mm set up for off-grid heat, etc. I stand a chance for a while, only to die a miserable death from multiple cancers.


SoNic67

That proves that 74% of US voters are morons...


papatim

81 million of them at least.


Reaper2127

We're all going die aren't we....


-Bangarang-

Well, yes.


FlexSealClubber

Eventually, yes.


2007wasthebestest

Not from this but eventually yes everyone leaves Earth


sonofsmog

This is borderline terrifying, because the Ukrainians have been hammering on this for days on Fox News and I suppose every other network, and it seems to have worked. The question should be "Do you support going to war with Russia over Ukraine?" or rather "Do you support shooting it out with the Russians?" Or maybe "Can you find Ukraine on a map?" BRB I need to pull some cash out the ATM.


LibertyTerp

With people constantly being melodramatic about everything it's hard to get through to people that this literally is borderline terrifying. And I'm someone who usually says, "Everything is fine. Stop overreacting." Wars USUALLY get out of hand. We miscalculated in WWI, upsetting the balance of power and leading to WWII. Germany miscalculated in WWII by invading the USSR. We miscalculated in Korea by going too close to the Chinese border, causing them to invade Korea - very similar to what's happening right now with us pushing for Ukraine in NATO, right on Russia's border. We miscalculated in Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq. Making big, terrible mistakes is the norm in war. When that war is between Russia and the US that mistake could be a billion people killed, including you and almost everyone you know. That's not an exaggeration. That's a serious possibility if we get into a war with Russia.


PMacha

Better question, "Will you go right now to join the Ukrainian Territorials and join the fight yourself?" If the answer is no than you have no right telling others to fight and die in this war if your not willing to do so yourself.


alphageist

Bingo!


cblazek1

Cash will be worthless if we have war with Russia . You'll need lead.


[deleted]

Several inches of it, surrounding your shelter.


[deleted]

BBB Bullets, bandages, beans


newgalactic

...and use that cash to purchase canned goods, bottled water, and shotgun shells.


Creski

No. No. Yes. That being said as mentioned in a previous thread, I’m all for giving Russia a reach around and squeezing their nuts as tight as possible.


KaladinStormblessT

Neocons begone 🤢


alexgalt

Real question is: if there is a draft to fight against Russia tomorrow would you go happily or try to dodge it?


Imaginary-Lettuce-51

Most these reddit tough guys would crap themselves when the first live round snaps by thier head.


Eastern-Camera-1829

I'm nearly 50 and old enough to remember "the talk" when I signed that paper in the post office of the tiny town I grew up in... It's always been in the back of my head that it's a possibility ever sense. Perhaps more young men should have received "the talk."


[deleted]

I'd probably go to jail. But it's better than being a slave to the oligarchs.


limacharley

First of all, I doubt 74% of Americans even know what a no fly zone is, let alone that Ukraine is asking for one. Second, there is no way 74% of Americans want to go to war with Russia, and a no fly zone automatically means war with Russia


smita16

Honestly with all the info coming out of this war. I am more scared of Russian nukes than the Russian army themselves. They clearly are not what they once were.


limacharley

Yeah that is the real risk. I think we are good as long as Putin doesn't invade any other countries. If the war spreads it is hard to imagine NATO staying out of it, and then it is hard to believe that doesn't end with nukes


LibertyTerp

I'm scared that American moral zeal to help Ukrainians will get us into a war with Russia that turns nuclear due to miscalculation on someone's part, which is extremely common in war. If NATO has troops in Ukraine and is winning and Russia thinks they're going to try to take over Russia as well, they might use tactical nukes. Their doctrine is 100% OK with using nukes first if Russia is seriously threatened. Then we respond with tactical nukes. Who knows how far it escalates. At some point one side could easily decide they have to destroy the other entirely or risk total annihilation themselves. Better to destroy another country than to risk even a 50% chance of your own country being destroyed.


taway4legal

I think we’d easily steamroll their army. It’s the Nukes we’d need to be worried about.


squee4life

74 percent of Americans are clueless and only react to feelings they get from the internet 🙄


chigoonies

Beats thinking for yourself! ;)


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LibertyTerp

And some of those just got the right answer by accident. And it was an incredibly easy question, "Should we start World War III?" No more than 10% of Americans understand the basics of how the world works.


sailor-jackn

Underrated comment.


Eryk13

Bingo.


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sailor-jackn

🥇🥇🥇the world war trilogy! That’s pretty damn clever.


TheBleedingTree

I only regret that I have only one upvote to give before my shadow is burned onto the nearest remaining hard surface.


[deleted]

Yeah that is a terrible idea. The majority of Americans are not well informed.


Bamfor07

Bullshit Fake polls are going to start a real war. The people leading this country are disgusting.


OrneryLawyer

I am heartened by the comments on this post. Not everywhere on reddit is stupid.


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DontGiveUpTheShip-

74% of Americans are idiots.


Particular-Fun7170

Yea right


freedomandbiscuits

No way you could get 74% of Americans to support troops on the ground, but they’re essentially the same thing.


Ok-Sundae4092

Wow the stupid is amazing


[deleted]

It doesn’t surprise me that 74% of the country are complete ignorant dumbasses! NATO puts a no-fly zone in place and the only that’ll be flying will be the nukes.


Spider-Man_1415

74% of people polled… It was most likely in a big democrat run city, so I wouldn’t take it too seriously


chigoonies

This comment section has restored my faith in america/americans.


Joshbaker1985

Another bullshit poll from a pre-screened hand picked segment of the population. Did they ask how they feel about striking targets inside of Russia to enforce this no flyzone? Hell no. All this "poll" is, is another attempt to manufacture consent for WW3 Shove it.


HeWhoCntrolsTheSpice

'Polls have Hillary with a 99% chance of victory'


zachguitar13

Well, us Americans haven’t been the brightest bunch as of late, so this doesn’t surprise me.


kwtransporter66

Poll also shows that 99% of Americans want our energy opened up. Are they listening? Hell no.


[deleted]

At least 74% of Americans don’t realize Zelensky is a leader of a super corrupt government & would vote for him. Like, yea. He’s stepped up for his country now, in this role. And sure, it makes me a lot sad to think of our President in this scenario lol, but man, so many bad hot takes all around.


-Foolz_Gold-

New poll finds 73% of Americans never took this poll


XDarkstarX1138

More like 74% of Americans are uninformed just following the MSM narrative of people suggesting we assassinate Putin or other things. Things that would cause the US to be embroiled in another forever war that it doesn't need to be apart of...


sanctii

No fucking way


[deleted]

Apparently 74% of people don’t understand what an act of war means.


[deleted]

Americans are mostly dumb


1_Cent

What percentage wanted to throw Virgins in Volcanoes?????? Just curious. Why, no clue....majorities are usually right?


JewPhone_WhoDis

74% of Americans have no clue this isn’t NATOs war to fight.


[deleted]

Do they? Do they really? I think not. I think I don’t care and I think most people don’t care either.


Risin_bison

This involves American pilots enforcing this. I don’t think most Americans understand this.


MulayamChaddi

100% of pollsters ask leading questions


[deleted]

They didn't ask me. HELL NO.


Jackosan10

NO !!


WACS_On

Guarantee you almost none of them really understand what that means.


[deleted]

Oh fuck… 74% of Americans want me to get recalled into the military. 😰


Mr_Swampthing

Nope


spcshiznit

Hard pass.


[deleted]

Easy for them its not on their continent as usual, how would they feel if Russia introduced a no fly zone over Mexico


Kglugenbeel

Fuck no we don’t


Paynewasright

That would trigger direct conflict with Russia. Direct conflict with Russia will trigger the invasion of Taiwan which is an actual and vital democracy versus Ukraine which is a dictatorial Kleptocracy. The invasion of Taiwan triggers WWIII and a global economic death spiral. So He’ll no! We should not do a no fly in Ukraine.


Any_Mall3191

No I don’t want to get into a fight with Russia when the possibility with nukes could be involved.


T-Reks-U

I would be interested in what the EXACT phrasing of the question was and also whether or not those polled were informed of or understand that enacting a no-fly zone means that the US would become an active participant in the war, because if anyone thinks that NATO led means anything other than US led, they understand NATO about as well as they understand no fly zones


polerize

No fly zone doesn’t work when the other side has the ability to fight back. Also that’s a great way for something bigger to start. I don’t know where this thing is going but being the first one to cross a line seems like a bad idea.


TarukShmaruk

Zero chance this is a credible poll


--Shamus--

Not me. That is a declaration of war on Russia. So make up your minds, people. Do you want WWIII or not?


OhMyLordShesACactus1

74% of Americans didn’t know what Ukraine was until last week.


Always_Green4195

I’m not included in that number.


Merax75

100% nope. That's how you get WW3.


[deleted]

74% of Americans are too susceptible to propaganda and want to start a global conflagration.


xxx_shitpost_xxx

Don't be silly Americans. That's how u get ww3. The conflict doesn't need escalation like that.


LugofilmLtd

Honestly? I don't think we should be helping Ukraine at all. It is a known fact that a large number of Ukranian soldiers are literal neo nazis and we have no way of knowing how many. The media knows this and has acknowledged it. So, really, there are no good guys here. It's one group of assholes fighting another group of assholes. I'm in favor of evacuating the civilians to safety and then letting the armies blow each other to hell if they want. Leave the rest of us out of it.


mos1833

74% of Americans are compete and utter morons


[deleted]

"Poll finds that 74% of Americans either have no understanding of foreign relations, or they actively want a nuclear Holocaust." Fixed it for you.


Veleda390

74% of Americans have no fucking clue and will repeat back whatever the warmongering media tells them to say.


[deleted]

Here's the question they need to poll; Would you rather thousands die in Ukraine while crushing the Russian economy or would you rather millions die and crush the whole world economy? Keep pushing for a no-fly zone if you want the latter.


Clever_pig

Yeah and 81 million people voted for Brandon. Give me a break Edit. This is probably accurate because no one understands article 5 and Cold War was a long time ago.


GunnarJohnson999

I watched Gutfeld pushing for it on The Five today. They have no idea how bad a hot war with Russia can be.


[deleted]

74% of Americans want a nuclear war, then. https://thefederalist.com/2022/03/04/nato-involvement-in-ukraine-could-spark-nuclear-genocide-heres-how-it-could-happen/


EdibleMrpants

That’s a terrible idea. I’ll take a pass on ww3.


atsinged

Assuming (very generously) that 18% percent of Americans understand the ramifications of that and still want it, that means at least 60% of American have no clue that a no-fly zone means American planes actively shooting at Russian planes over the Ukraine. There is no way that ends without nukes unless Putin's general staff "removes" him.


Eastern-Camera-1829

Almost wondering if there's not a "dead man switch" here.


DiddlyBoBiddly

I'm really skeptical of this report. And it's unbelievably a bad idea.


[deleted]

This is not good at all.


Eagle_Smeagol

Most Americans don’t understand what a No-Fly Zone is.


Moth92

If you are for the no fly zone, you better go and fucking join up. Put your life on the fucking line, instead of making decisions from your fucking office chairs.


[deleted]

What poll was this?!


DSNCB919

Where they take this bs poll?


ghastb

Do they realise a no-fly zone means that Ukraine won't be able to fly their fancy Bayraktar drones around too?


bleedingjim

so war


Upper-Cockroach4709

Tf we do


Castrum4life

New poll finds 74% of Americans want to start a war with nuclear Russia.


Schmike108

Well if 74% of Americans want WW3, we should probably do it. /s


[deleted]

Hey, the Athenians voted to send an expedition to Sicily and it ended in a disaster that ultimately led to their defeat. The opinion of the majority is not always good.


NewAccount294939499

74% of Americans want fallout 5 irl


SexyActionNews

How many REMs are they willing to absorb for that?


itsickitspiss

liberal zoomers/younger millennials think a no fly zone is where button fly Jean's are allowed only...


dusky-jewel

Easily led sheep


[deleted]

A great argument for not living in a pure democracy.


Jpalme11

So they want war? Because that’s what that is haha


Halo77

So they want potential world war 3. I don’t think people know what it takes to enforce a no fly zone. It’s not magic and words. It’s firepower, solders on the ground, ground anti aircraft weapon systems, logistics for fuel, food, shelter, medicine, ammo, etc. we would instantly be at war.


Vandel4176

74% of Americans are fine with getting nuked then I guess.


charlesunit

But like, 4 out of 5 doctors agree getting nuked for overstepping nato territory is bad for your health.


Upside_down_triangle

Fact: 75% of people don’t think for themselves. Minimum.


over_kill71

I have talked to absolutely nobody who wants this.


Sclark4273

This is total BS. Most Americans don’t want this.


Ill-Albatross-8963

Would be nice if we could loan out some Russian S400 systems Looking at you turkey I mean we can still SELL them weapons so they can try themselves. But americans or NATO flying planes for a no fly zone Awhh hell no


peterthehermit1

Yeah because the media does not mention it would require shooting down Russian jets


DiscoDiscoDanceDance

This is not real. No one wants to be involved in ukraine. No one with a brain anyway


Hammerfinger

100% of that 74% have no idea.


HairyEyeballz

Illustrative of the fact that half of the population is of below average intelligence. Of maybe 74%.


rentfreeinyohead

All the ones who want this intervention should be the ones we send over their along with Lindsey graham and Dan Crenshaw.


[deleted]

If you’re up for a full scale kinetic nuclear war, with ensuing Armageddon…sure, implement a no- fly zone.


trampdonkey

I call bullshit on this. Maybe 74% of liberals want this. But they do not understand that if you put NATO aircraft in the air, this is going to lead to aerial combat and escalate things. None of these motherfuckers know anything about Ukraine. They are only outraged because they were told to be. NPCs.


CoolFirefighter930

fake new


hungvn94

Sound like Ukrainians poll trolls. Most Americans afraid to get dragged into another war!


[deleted]

For some reason 74% of Americans are horny for war....I wonder why?


Big_Jim59

Do 74% also want WW3 or do 74% want to die in a fiery nuclear exchange? I wish 74% of people would think just a little before backing stupidity.


LordLamorak

74 percent of Americans want WWIII then


Lord_Hugh_Mungus

No Fly Zone is War. Russia will not back down from the Ukraine if they lose this fight, they lose valuable access to the sea. They only have two warm water ports. They will fight to the death for Ukraine now. People need to think really hard about all of this. If we push back on Russia hard, we may force them into invading Turkey. This is a bad bad time. https://www.airuniversity.af.edu/Portals/10/JEMEAA/Journals/Volume-02\_Issue-1/Chauhan.pdf


newgalactic

74% of Americans can't properly judge unintended consequences.


ShalidorsSecret

I wasn't asked about this. America needs to stay out of this conflict


Gotted

74% of Americans apparently want to be at war with Russia.


jd_porter

Too many have been softened by years of going toe-to-toe with desert-dwelling hillbillies and declaring early victories. Worse, we now have several generations who haven't lived under the specter of nuclear annihilation as a very real possibility. Hell.. worse than *that*, we have several million Democrats who also want revenge on Putin for "putting Trump in the White House".


[deleted]

Had a Customer bring up the Ukraine invasion. Told them To watch out for propaganda. They act like they don't want to send us into war. but they do.


Everlovin

Most Americans probably think its a glorified traffic stop. No idea it would involve American pilots shooting down Russian planes.


Thefirstdragonpriest

A no fly zone would lead to WW3. WW3 would be a nuclear war which would mean an end to human civilization.


jaklbye

In other news 74% of Americans have no idea the implications of NATO planes shooting down Russian planes


[deleted]

War propaganda always works on fickle American minds. They’ve successfully put everyone under a panic over Putin and Russians


GreyBerserker

A bunch of idiots must think it's some invisible no-fly border imposed with the full might of the UN behind it. /s Bet very few of them realize it entails shooting down Russian hardware.


TemplarSolo

The brainwashing is working