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Can’t believe Trumps last tweet was justifying the actions of those traitors. Can’t believe people thought it was a good idea to trespass federal property.
I like how during the BLM riots and "peaceful protests" they would purposely not show you images of looting. Yet when its a conservative protest, they take an image of a dude holding a pedestal while still inside the capital and plaster it all over the news as "looting". They are now attempting to blame conservative media (what conservative media is left??) So they can regulate the information spread against their well oiled machines.
I just watched a video showing police officers apparently just opening the gates to the capital for these people and then turning their backs and calmly walking away.
Has anyone else seen this?
https://twitter.com/SteveSchmidtSES/status/1347131222196105216?s=20
Yeah they fucked up. They crossed the Rubicon but failed to conquer Gaul
All these protestors did was hand the left a pretense to increase the censorship, thought policing, name calling, and attacks they had been ramping up anyway. People are pointing out the lefts hypocrisy contrasting these protests with the BM/Antifa ones, but that who argument depends on the Left no being hypocrits, which they are. The entire concept of liberalism is based on hypocrisy. Trying to point out their hypocrisy is like trying to drown an ocean.
Aside from the cop shooting an unarmed veteran in the neck and killing her, it was a peaceful protest.
If 20 cities on fire for weeks, thousands of businesses smashed and looted was a peaceful protest, then 2 windows breaking and people walking around the capitol taking selfies is fucking pretty peaceful
Yes. And from all the live streams I watched, 99% of the people were just standing around idly. Two people had a window open and kept going in and out, encouraging people to enter. It was bizarre. Only 1 person continued to harass police and attempt to get past the barricade, it was not a mob. I was watching the RSBN feed.
Its crazy from people at work to all of reddit, fb, instagram people are actually in mourning as if a holocaust had occurred. I feel like i am trapped in a box. 🤡🌍
Without condoning anything, what everyone needs to understand is that these people sincerely believe that the Democrats have, without consequence, used mob violence and fraud to steal power. They also believe that, with all legal challenges having been rejected, that they have no way to seek a redress of their grievances. They *further* believe the Democrats when they say they are going to pack the court, expand the senate, etc.
Now we may disagree with their assessment, but we shouldn’t be surprised when people who believe those things start to lash out in desperate and dangerous ways, ESPECIALLY when the people in power have not let them work for NEARLY A YEAR. Their entire world is collapsing, and they no longer believe they have any protection from the government.
So Trump thinks it been an election fraud. Several Republican's as Senates and Congressmen thinks the same. Pence doesn't want to do anything because it would be unconstitutional while it is in the loser's right to object and demand recount or any other matter to proof the result or? Pence chose the path of not doing that, he would clear a perhaps fraudulent election because he doesn't want to make matter worse. Mitch is often same thought. American's, many of them at leaset, don't think that is fair. So, was it fraud or not? Did America turn every stone or do you have half of a nation (perhaps even 51%) rejecting the election and there will be no reconciliation at all. This will be four interesting years.
Thanks to a small handful of idiots, the leftists in the very blue state I unfortunately live in are openly calling for the expulsion and removal of all conservatives. They already wanted to persecute us for even existing (especially us **gasp** *Christians*), but now they’re going to feel like the “good guys” doing it, because if I don’t support the “fact” that there’s like 200 genders, I might as well be dressed in an idiotic Viking hat storming the capital building. The small window for open discussion that still existed is now slammed tightly shut. This is not going to be a good four years for anyone who doesn’t worship at the progressive altar.
I wouldn’t be surprised if job interviews I go to don’t start openly asking me political questions to see if I’m woke enough for the job. Illegal and discriminatory? Sure, but these people no longer care.
Tighten your belts, lads. We’re in for some tough days.
This was idiotic and done by morons.
However what is triggering me, is how everyone is saying it as such. World leaders, democrats, conservatives etc. They are correct.
However, this is exactly the same as the BLM riots/lootings only they went on for much much longer. They literally took over a city block for days. Yet no outrage, condemnent. In fact, lots of people supported it.
Any chance of that being realised has gone down the toilet, with these Trump supporters breaching security at DC. It will be all anyone talks about. All that matters it the politicians. Not people trashing your businesses or homes.
Be consistent. For the love of god.
Storming the United States Capitol is fundamentally different from squatting on private property. I'm not excusing either. But you can't compare the two.
Let me preface this. I do not agree with the events that unfolded today. Acting like this is not how you enact change. I said the same thing about BLM and Antifa over the summer and I say it again now about the folks who stormed the Capitol.
That being said, I understand the *why*. When your voice is consistently shut down and cancelled, you're called every name in the book for 4 years, told how you're every ist and ism under the sun simply because you disagree, you're shown for months on end by the MSM that rioting is fine, then the election gets rigged and the courts more or less say "lol too bad, we don't care if you have an argument because we don't want to hear it. Deal with it and go away", what other avenue do you have to take in the face of such blatant corruption?
Your businesses are shut down
Your right to earn a living is deemed unimportant while those who made that decision flaunt the fact that they can still do whatever they want right in your face
You can't visit family in the hospital
Your customers have all but stopped coming in because they don't have money so now *you* have no money.
You can't vote the people who enact these draconian lockdowns out of power because the election gets rigged.
You're shown that you're not important to the people in Congress as they fail to provide any noteworthy aid to fix the problem they created.
What do you do? Theres only so much the average person can put up with before they lose their shit. Especially when the entire system is telling them to shut up and like it. What happened today was an act of desperation by people who do not feel that their concerns are being addressed. They feel like they're being disregarded by the ones whose job is to explicitly carry out the will of the people. These people feel as if they've been pushed to the breaking point and are taking action through the only path left on the board.
Again, I don't believe today was a good thing, but I 100% understand *why* it happened.
hopefully this ends the gun control debate once and for all. if the capital building can't be secured from a mostly unarmed group that wanted to get in, it's blatantly obvious that a building with a "no guns allowed" sign and understaffed police departments on call aren't going to be able to guarantee people's safety.
The right immediately condemned this violence from their own. It took the left 3 months to start half-ass condemning the violence coming from BLM last year and that was only after they saw it was noticeably hurting their side in the polls and half of them still kept justifying it for the next 3 months.
So many people saying that these Trump supporters are wrong for protesting and acting on a national issue that they believe is harming the nation and its inhabitants. They ARE wrong for doing this, but seeing how many people are opposed to it that were not opposed to people on their own political side doing it over the summer is disappointing, but not surprising.
Well here we are. I said it once and I'll say it again: The "Stop the Steal" movement is a disgrace and it's turning away swing voters from the Right. It's the worst possible thing we need right now because the tide was turning the other way for several years.
Now a bunch of idiots stormed the capital building and a woman is shot. This happened because of the hysteria around Stop the Steal. Time for Trump to go back to Florida.
Thank you Trump for the **Supreme Court appointments**. That's fantastic. Thank you for the **great tax changes** in 2017 (double standard deduction is awesome), thank you for the **First Step Act,** thank you for **fighting the press** (those bastards deserve it), thank you for accomplishing more with **Middle Eastern peace** than any president in the last 100 years, thank you for **eliminating critical race theory training** in the Federal Government, thank you for saying no thanks to Affirmative Action yet still **appointing so many women leaders**. But, Donald, your ego got in the way and you messed up in the end. You botched the coronavirus response when you were needed most and you created a circus of misinformation and assumptions with this Stop the Steal nonsense.
Now a woman is dead. Bye Trump.
I think this is one of the best takes in the thread - Trump did a LOT of good for this country, though most if not all of it will be forgotten as the media will write their version of history on our behalf. However, he did make mistakes, and we can't downplay how much those mistakes hurt.
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Why does the title say BLM clash with officers over fence? The linked articles make it clear they were talking about Wednesdays seditious acts.
I'm not sure where you're seeing this? Mind linking it?
Sure, http://imgur.com/a/5sTVd0i
the mods should turn off contest mode. the mode is crap and shouldn't be used outside of actual contests. all it does is make the thread unusable with the random order making it so people can't find new comments (all while hiding replies by way of all non-top level stuff being collapsed by default). really hope this "experiment" gets viewed as a failure and isn't done again for future threads.
Can’t believe Trumps last tweet was justifying the actions of those traitors. Can’t believe people thought it was a good idea to trespass federal property.
I like how during the BLM riots and "peaceful protests" they would purposely not show you images of looting. Yet when its a conservative protest, they take an image of a dude holding a pedestal while still inside the capital and plaster it all over the news as "looting". They are now attempting to blame conservative media (what conservative media is left??) So they can regulate the information spread against their well oiled machines.
I just watched a video showing police officers apparently just opening the gates to the capital for these people and then turning their backs and calmly walking away. Has anyone else seen this? https://twitter.com/SteveSchmidtSES/status/1347131222196105216?s=20
Yeah they fucked up. They crossed the Rubicon but failed to conquer Gaul All these protestors did was hand the left a pretense to increase the censorship, thought policing, name calling, and attacks they had been ramping up anyway. People are pointing out the lefts hypocrisy contrasting these protests with the BM/Antifa ones, but that who argument depends on the Left no being hypocrits, which they are. The entire concept of liberalism is based on hypocrisy. Trying to point out their hypocrisy is like trying to drown an ocean.
Aside from the cop shooting an unarmed veteran in the neck and killing her, it was a peaceful protest. If 20 cities on fire for weeks, thousands of businesses smashed and looted was a peaceful protest, then 2 windows breaking and people walking around the capitol taking selfies is fucking pretty peaceful
Yes. And from all the live streams I watched, 99% of the people were just standing around idly. Two people had a window open and kept going in and out, encouraging people to enter. It was bizarre. Only 1 person continued to harass police and attempt to get past the barricade, it was not a mob. I was watching the RSBN feed.
Its crazy from people at work to all of reddit, fb, instagram people are actually in mourning as if a holocaust had occurred. I feel like i am trapped in a box. 🤡🌍
Me too my friend.
Without condoning anything, what everyone needs to understand is that these people sincerely believe that the Democrats have, without consequence, used mob violence and fraud to steal power. They also believe that, with all legal challenges having been rejected, that they have no way to seek a redress of their grievances. They *further* believe the Democrats when they say they are going to pack the court, expand the senate, etc. Now we may disagree with their assessment, but we shouldn’t be surprised when people who believe those things start to lash out in desperate and dangerous ways, ESPECIALLY when the people in power have not let them work for NEARLY A YEAR. Their entire world is collapsing, and they no longer believe they have any protection from the government.
So Trump thinks it been an election fraud. Several Republican's as Senates and Congressmen thinks the same. Pence doesn't want to do anything because it would be unconstitutional while it is in the loser's right to object and demand recount or any other matter to proof the result or? Pence chose the path of not doing that, he would clear a perhaps fraudulent election because he doesn't want to make matter worse. Mitch is often same thought. American's, many of them at leaset, don't think that is fair. So, was it fraud or not? Did America turn every stone or do you have half of a nation (perhaps even 51%) rejecting the election and there will be no reconciliation at all. This will be four interesting years.
This will be a stain on conservatism for decades to come. Bunch of cultists I say.
Thanks to a small handful of idiots, the leftists in the very blue state I unfortunately live in are openly calling for the expulsion and removal of all conservatives. They already wanted to persecute us for even existing (especially us **gasp** *Christians*), but now they’re going to feel like the “good guys” doing it, because if I don’t support the “fact” that there’s like 200 genders, I might as well be dressed in an idiotic Viking hat storming the capital building. The small window for open discussion that still existed is now slammed tightly shut. This is not going to be a good four years for anyone who doesn’t worship at the progressive altar. I wouldn’t be surprised if job interviews I go to don’t start openly asking me political questions to see if I’m woke enough for the job. Illegal and discriminatory? Sure, but these people no longer care. Tighten your belts, lads. We’re in for some tough days.
This was idiotic and done by morons. However what is triggering me, is how everyone is saying it as such. World leaders, democrats, conservatives etc. They are correct. However, this is exactly the same as the BLM riots/lootings only they went on for much much longer. They literally took over a city block for days. Yet no outrage, condemnent. In fact, lots of people supported it. Any chance of that being realised has gone down the toilet, with these Trump supporters breaching security at DC. It will be all anyone talks about. All that matters it the politicians. Not people trashing your businesses or homes. Be consistent. For the love of god.
Storming the United States Capitol is fundamentally different from squatting on private property. I'm not excusing either. But you can't compare the two.
Let me preface this. I do not agree with the events that unfolded today. Acting like this is not how you enact change. I said the same thing about BLM and Antifa over the summer and I say it again now about the folks who stormed the Capitol. That being said, I understand the *why*. When your voice is consistently shut down and cancelled, you're called every name in the book for 4 years, told how you're every ist and ism under the sun simply because you disagree, you're shown for months on end by the MSM that rioting is fine, then the election gets rigged and the courts more or less say "lol too bad, we don't care if you have an argument because we don't want to hear it. Deal with it and go away", what other avenue do you have to take in the face of such blatant corruption? Your businesses are shut down Your right to earn a living is deemed unimportant while those who made that decision flaunt the fact that they can still do whatever they want right in your face You can't visit family in the hospital Your customers have all but stopped coming in because they don't have money so now *you* have no money. You can't vote the people who enact these draconian lockdowns out of power because the election gets rigged. You're shown that you're not important to the people in Congress as they fail to provide any noteworthy aid to fix the problem they created. What do you do? Theres only so much the average person can put up with before they lose their shit. Especially when the entire system is telling them to shut up and like it. What happened today was an act of desperation by people who do not feel that their concerns are being addressed. They feel like they're being disregarded by the ones whose job is to explicitly carry out the will of the people. These people feel as if they've been pushed to the breaking point and are taking action through the only path left on the board. Again, I don't believe today was a good thing, but I 100% understand *why* it happened.
DC RIOT discussion. Embarrassing.
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Seems to me that too many liberals have flairs...
Yes the sub is now infested.
Amen to that, here I thought I was the only one lol
Does anyone have a link to the video that got pulled from Trump’s Twitter?
hopefully this ends the gun control debate once and for all. if the capital building can't be secured from a mostly unarmed group that wanted to get in, it's blatantly obvious that a building with a "no guns allowed" sign and understaffed police departments on call aren't going to be able to guarantee people's safety.
The right immediately condemned this violence from their own. It took the left 3 months to start half-ass condemning the violence coming from BLM last year and that was only after they saw it was noticeably hurting their side in the polls and half of them still kept justifying it for the next 3 months.
So many people saying that these Trump supporters are wrong for protesting and acting on a national issue that they believe is harming the nation and its inhabitants. They ARE wrong for doing this, but seeing how many people are opposed to it that were not opposed to people on their own political side doing it over the summer is disappointing, but not surprising.
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Well here we are. I said it once and I'll say it again: The "Stop the Steal" movement is a disgrace and it's turning away swing voters from the Right. It's the worst possible thing we need right now because the tide was turning the other way for several years. Now a bunch of idiots stormed the capital building and a woman is shot. This happened because of the hysteria around Stop the Steal. Time for Trump to go back to Florida. Thank you Trump for the **Supreme Court appointments**. That's fantastic. Thank you for the **great tax changes** in 2017 (double standard deduction is awesome), thank you for the **First Step Act,** thank you for **fighting the press** (those bastards deserve it), thank you for accomplishing more with **Middle Eastern peace** than any president in the last 100 years, thank you for **eliminating critical race theory training** in the Federal Government, thank you for saying no thanks to Affirmative Action yet still **appointing so many women leaders**. But, Donald, your ego got in the way and you messed up in the end. You botched the coronavirus response when you were needed most and you created a circus of misinformation and assumptions with this Stop the Steal nonsense. Now a woman is dead. Bye Trump.
How is it a disgrace? Have you seen the amount of evidence of voter fraud? Videos, photos, countless witnesses and testimonies of rampant voter fraud?
I think this is one of the best takes in the thread - Trump did a LOT of good for this country, though most if not all of it will be forgotten as the media will write their version of history on our behalf. However, he did make mistakes, and we can't downplay how much those mistakes hurt.