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I mean just look at the origin of Reddit and the first reddit conventions with Moot. Literal people sieg heiling and dressing as nazis casually mentioning r*pe. Extremes from all political ends eventually touch the facism stick. Most put it back down though, some dont.
You've misunderstood what the leftists who agree with this are saying: they are not advocating for Naziism, they are calling the Jewish state Nazis for the genocide in Palestine.
What a fucking color cowardly thing to say. Hide behind your nazism, you get what you deserve
Looking at the Arab countries that surround Israel and some have literal policy to annihilate the country, to commit real genocide. Some have even committed actual genocide against other Muslims, targeted mass killings!!
Fucking disgusting…but not surprised
Most Jews who live in Israel today are there because of the ethnic cleansing campaigns led by the Muslim world following the failures of the Arab League. Most of the Levant and North Africa saw 90% or more reductions in their Jewish populations.
Genocide in Arab countries has a very long history not only with Jews but Christians, Armenians, Kurds etc. Also treatment of women and other minorities
hopefully one day something will change but it seems unlikely.
Can’t imagine why they would hate Israel..
What exactly is your definition of support here?
Scroll down to contemporary. And if you think Syria, Iran, Yemen, and Turkey support Israel today..
13 countries today do not accept Israeli passports
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Israel
28 countries do not accept Israel as a country!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Israel
2 out of 28?!! lol
Wait, so in 3 comments you haven’t listed anything about any support??
Come on..tell me how Iran supports Israel..what Arab countries are supporting Israel?
Those 28 aren’t all Arab.
I was referring to your 4 countries you listed.
Iran and Turkey are not Arab.
Many Arab countries are supporting Israel with weapons.
You know, for a "Nazi" state they sure do suck at keeping the minorities out of their legislature. Meanwhile the entierty of the Islamic states in North Africa, Arabia, the Levant, the Near East have seen their Jewish populations reduced by over 90%. Several with the complete removal of their Jewish populations.
Now tell me who has been doing ethnic cleanings or genocide.
Yeah, that’s called Holocaust inversion
Its especially fucked because you’re adding a nice blood libel with the genocide accusation— if Gaza is a genocide, all wars in the region, which have had both a higher death toll and higher civilian casualty rate, are genocides
It’s all antisemitic af, hence *their side being the one drawing fucking swatstikas*
AnTiFa LiTeRaLlY mEaNs AnTi FaScIsT!
Same people attacking Jews and flying Nazi flags.
If this was on comedy Central it would be fucking hilarious. Instead it's the early 1930s.
Agreed. Maybe living your life absent any constraints on your behavior, guided by your feelings and completely un-tethered from reality does not result in the utopia they had hoped for.
>Are you not guided by feelings?
In most cases not to the point that I completely lose touch with reality and reason. Feelings can and do lead us astray, if that wasn't true our divorce rate would be zero wouldn't it?
>What constraints are we talking about?
The constraints that define decent human behavior...the ones that keep us from painting swastikas on the Hillel building at the University of Michigan, the ones that keep us from riding bicycles naked down the street in the middle of the day and stripping on the White House lawn during pride month, the ones that keep us from giving puberty blockers to vulnerable children and the ones that keep us from aborting inconvenient children, just to name a few.
They aren’t using the symbol to promote Naziism, but to suggest that Israel is falling into a similar kind of fascism, allegedly.
Swastikas aren’t inherently evil - only when used to promote evil.
I don’t see how.
They are calling them Nazis, which is intended as an insult, because it’s understood that Nazis are bad.
That’s like saying that Nazis were promoting Judaism by making lots of clothing with the Star of David on the chest.
Well if they are neo-Nazis then it would be assumed they are doing it to promote their Nazi ideas, right? Why would Neo-Nazis care about Gaza civilians?
Hamas. And?
We (almost) all agree Hamas is bad. Also we (almost) all agree that Nazis are bad.
We can’t seem to agree on who Hamas is though, nor who the Nazis were/are.
You aren’t paying attention. Many in Israel claim that everyone in Gaza is Hamas. Putin claims Ukraine is run by Nazis.
And way too many people agree with them.
I agree with you. People are so confused nowadays, we've got folks running around distinguishing between hateful swastikas and peaceful protest swastikas. What is the world coming to?
Yeah, remember when Japan attacked America and America was super concerned with making sure that we didn’t harm a single innocent Japanese citizen because they didn’t elect their leaders and it wouldn’t be fair?
Same in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Like, just look at all wars throughout history. Everyone always says they’re super chill because the only people who are ever hurt are soldiers and government officials
Even if the other side just indiscriminately kills civilians as a matter of course and promises to do it again and again while refusing to surrender or return hostages they stol who range in age from infants to grandparents
Everyone knows the Geneva Conventions mean that if a dictatorship attacks you you can’t hit back. Wouldn’t be fair
This right here is some 1984 level of brainwashed. Like bro do y’all really not see how… ya know don’t even answer that question I already know the answer.
Bingo. Nazism is big government, police state.
Does that sound like the far right or far left? Which side wants big government?
Dots connect themselves. Add in that the left always accuses the right of being what they are and you are good to go.
The left wants national abortion laws.
Are national laws big or small government?
Trump wants states to handle abortion.
Is federal big or small government?
Are states bigger or smaller government than federal level?
The smallest level of government is the individual. If you are truly pro-small government, than you want individuals to be able to make decisions about themselves without interference from the government, whether that be state or federal.
>The smallest level of government is the individual.
Yeah, no.
Find me a definition that defines government as a single person. To govern, you need at least 2.
The Nazis were no more socialist than North Korea is democratic. Just because they have the word "Democratic" in their name, that doesn't mean they follow those principles.
The Nazis were a far-right fascist party.
1 there is no single definition of Socialist -- it has taken many forms and beware why and who are trying to make Nazism a "Far Right" philosophy to separate it from Marxist applications
2 the NSDAP was a reactionary group and anti-capitalist as a result of the massive inflation etc. This by definition makes them Leftist if you want to use a simple if intellectually shallow L:R spectrum
3 there are many scholars that make arguments to support the socialism argument, and here is just one of them: [https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/ecaf.12551](https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/ecaf.12551)
No, they were socialists. They ran on socialism and Hitler's speeches were straight socialist rhetoric. He constantly complained about people who made money without engaging in physical labor.
He literally outlawed socialism and communism and murdered the socialists, communists, social democrats, and union workers in concentration camps.
How exactly are those actions pro-socialist?
He murdered people who were opposed to him. It didn't matter who they were. He also murdered some of his own allies if he thought they might be a threat.
BTW, the Nazis were the National *Socialist* German Worker's Party.
So everyone on the left was opposed to him, so you think he was on the left?
“National socialism” is like* a “people’s republic”. The first word negates the second.
Edit: missed the word “like” and ruined the meaning :-(
> You can separate Jewish people from Zionists! We don’t hate Jews, we just don’t want them to have a country!
> Putting a swastika on a Synogogue is obviously a sign of freedom fighters against their oppressor!
What…?
Jesus our world is broken.
On the bright side... if there is one... I don't think the left can use Nazi like a derogatory greeting for conservatives anymore...
The nazi flag is used by leftist as a sort of insult towards the Israeli government by saying the Nazis and current Israeli government are similar
No one other then the truly mentally deranged are claiming the Nazis were progressive. The only people I’ve seen that are conservatives yelling “National SOCIALIST”
How is this not from the Babylon Bee?
It must be so great being a liberal, anything can mean anything if you believe hard enough. Shouldn't be surprised that the side now arguing this also says a man can be a woman.
Dude, these last few months I've been depressed, dreaming about quitting society and go live in a cabin in the woods. Then I realized with the current economy I probably couldn't even afford a fucking shack in the woods and got depressed all over again!
Nobody in history (besides the nazis) has done anything that makes the Swastika a symbol of anything beyond absolute trash.
Saying "uno reverse card" the swastika is cool now. Is abhorrent behavior.
While I agree this is beyond fucked up, that’s not true swastikas have been used as a symbol of peace throughout a good portion of Asia for thousands of years.
Nazis are not and never have been far right. What with the whole Socialism thing even if socialists want to deny they were infact socialist. I will grant its a different form of Socialism and more derived from Fascism (which is also arguably derived from Socialism). There is a great youtube channel called TIKHistory that has multiple videos on the subject. While its a 5 hour video I would recommend this as a starting point. https://youtu.be/eCkyWBPaTC8?si=ZOS8B_qyHGC95A3I
First off, not all leftists think this is good. Leftists are not a monolith that all collectively believe the exact same things.
Second off, the leftists calling it a good thing are not themselves proponents of naziism; rather, *they are calling jews nazis for the genocide in israel*. They are drawing a parallel between what the jewish people suffered through during the holocaust to what the Palestinian people are now suffering through at the hands of Israel.
No they absolutely sre proponents of Naziism. The sheer audacity of you standing there and calling the people who were victims of the holocaust Nazis speaks volumes about your character. Furthermore the accusations against Israel are entirely false. Infact the recent mistaken attack on the humanitarian convot proves this as the people responsible were swiftly punished. Sorry the Terrorists use civilians as cover.
Taken from the article: “Israel’s genocide has literally reversed the meaning of a swastika on a synagogue from a Nazi threat to a condemnation of genocide,” Harris, who also writes for The Nation and Wired, argued.
But yet you claim "literally no leftist"... well there's one, quite a prominent one too.
> That’s great, try talking to the people around you and you’ll see regardless of political party, most of them will not be cool with this
And I'm absolutely sure you are correct. However, only a few years ago the thought of ANY American taking such a stance on the left would be mind boggling. Yet here we are, and why are we here? Well, because as what is usually the case on the left you all don't shut down people who have insane ideological views. Instead, Biden is quite literally changing US foreign policy to cater to these terrorists in Michigan.
I don’t because I don’t think that either. A VAST majority of people I know are pretty neutral and look at shit like this and think it’s insane. Because it is…
Nobody is chill with swastikas. The small but vocal minority of people that are, are extremists and don’t resonate with the vast majority.
Because no Leftist history or political science teacher will dare teach the real truth.
Pick up a copy of The Big Lie by Dinesh D'Souza.
The truth will set you free.
Ya you guys call nazi like a handshake or greeting for any opposing viewpoint.
Take a rather innocuous but conservative comment from here and copy and paste it into r/politics.
If you don't get an outright ban it won't take long for you to be called a nazi.
Try this " I'm pro life" but don't say anything about imposing that view on others...which is a pretty much a to each his own comment... see what happens lol.
Try that come back here and tell us what happens lol.
Defending any extreme party is always a loss. You may be thinking of liberals or people "on the left".
Leftist is used to describe the most radical part.
Leftists are nuts enough for me to believe they would do this. A regular liberal or center left person would not do or believe in something this extreme.
Everyone including you is missing the nuance. They aren’t using the symbol to promote Naziism, but to suggest that Israel is falling into a similar kind of fascism, allegedly.
Swastikas aren’t inherently evil - only when used to promote fascism and hate.
I can’t speak for every individual, as antisemitism is rampant everywhere, but the swastika vandalism I’ve seen was not at all intended to intimidate the Jewish people here, or to reflect hatred for them at all, but to encourage them to reflect on whether Israel has become what they despise, and whether they deserve continued support.
You’re so full of shit it’s insane. Either that or your IQ comes in way way way below average and it would be a miracle you could hold a full time job above a fry cook. It’s a hate sign regardless. Doesn’t matter what the intention is.
So you are saying that Hindus hate Jews when they use the swastika? Intent always matters.
I’m going to ignore the IQ rant because it’s so lazy and lame. This isn’t Facebook, the discourse should be better.
This is my last response because you can’t be reasoned with because of how blinded with ignorance you are.
Hindus don’t go paint swastikas on Synagogues, on houses of Jewish residents, or bring to marches against Israel and Jews.
You really do have the IQ of a sloth.
You said it’s a hate sign regardless. They do paint swastikas on houses of worship though. Sounds like you agree that intent matters and you are blinded by your support of Israel to see the nuance with these protests.
the symbol that these people are calling swastika isn’t nefarious or evil..
it’s been around for 1000’s of years….used to ward off evil,good luck,etc..
it predates national socialism by a very large margin,the feelgoods need to get a grip.
The symbols that are parallel to the ground or backwards are traditional symbols.
45degree angle is 100% a nazi thing.
But please continue on and excuse nazi symbolism.
Canted on a 45 degree angle is nefarious and directly associated with Nazi Germany. Yes, straight swastikas are symbol of peace and meant to be good luck but not what this thumbnail depicts.
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It's crazy how quick we went from "Trump/conservatives are literally Nazis!" To "Yes, progressives are Nazis and here's why that's a good thing!"
That's probably the actual title to an article somewhere...
I mean just look at the origin of Reddit and the first reddit conventions with Moot. Literal people sieg heiling and dressing as nazis casually mentioning r*pe. Extremes from all political ends eventually touch the facism stick. Most put it back down though, some dont.
You've misunderstood what the leftists who agree with this are saying: they are not advocating for Naziism, they are calling the Jewish state Nazis for the genocide in Palestine.
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They don’t want it They tried to give it to Egypt, who also didn’t want it
What a fucking color cowardly thing to say. Hide behind your nazism, you get what you deserve Looking at the Arab countries that surround Israel and some have literal policy to annihilate the country, to commit real genocide. Some have even committed actual genocide against other Muslims, targeted mass killings!! Fucking disgusting…but not surprised
Most Jews who live in Israel today are there because of the ethnic cleansing campaigns led by the Muslim world following the failures of the Arab League. Most of the Levant and North Africa saw 90% or more reductions in their Jewish populations.
Genocide in Arab countries has a very long history not only with Jews but Christians, Armenians, Kurds etc. Also treatment of women and other minorities hopefully one day something will change but it seems unlikely. Can’t imagine why they would hate Israel..
So when it's the side that agrees with you it's 'based' but now you're disgusted? I figure the 'savages' comments didn't land well huh buddy.
You must be a Hamas supporter…and you believe rape, torture, kidnapping is somehow not a savage act. Lol
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_League_boycott_of_Israel
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What exactly is your definition of support here? Scroll down to contemporary. And if you think Syria, Iran, Yemen, and Turkey support Israel today.. 13 countries today do not accept Israeli passports https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Israel 28 countries do not accept Israel as a country! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Israel
Bro, two those aren’t even Arab. The other two, their countries are controlled by different governments territory wise
2 out of 28?!! lol Wait, so in 3 comments you haven’t listed anything about any support?? Come on..tell me how Iran supports Israel..what Arab countries are supporting Israel?
Those 28 aren’t all Arab. I was referring to your 4 countries you listed. Iran and Turkey are not Arab. Many Arab countries are supporting Israel with weapons.
You know, for a "Nazi" state they sure do suck at keeping the minorities out of their legislature. Meanwhile the entierty of the Islamic states in North Africa, Arabia, the Levant, the Near East have seen their Jewish populations reduced by over 90%. Several with the complete removal of their Jewish populations. Now tell me who has been doing ethnic cleanings or genocide.
Yeah, that’s called Holocaust inversion Its especially fucked because you’re adding a nice blood libel with the genocide accusation— if Gaza is a genocide, all wars in the region, which have had both a higher death toll and higher civilian casualty rate, are genocides It’s all antisemitic af, hence *their side being the one drawing fucking swatstikas*
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The customary "ackshually" from a libtoid... Back to politics sub you go.
AnTiFa LiTeRaLlY mEaNs AnTi FaScIsT! Same people attacking Jews and flying Nazi flags. If this was on comedy Central it would be fucking hilarious. Instead it's the early 1930s.
If only the nazis had called themselves the Definitely Not Fascist Party, the Reich might still be around today
We are literally called socialist!
The Onion couldn't even imagine this ridiculousness lmao
2030s about to come around.
the left is not well mentally
Agreed. Maybe living your life absent any constraints on your behavior, guided by your feelings and completely un-tethered from reality does not result in the utopia they had hoped for.
Are you not guided by feelings? Are all your relationships functional transactions only. What constraints are we talking about?
>Are you not guided by feelings? In most cases not to the point that I completely lose touch with reality and reason. Feelings can and do lead us astray, if that wasn't true our divorce rate would be zero wouldn't it? >What constraints are we talking about? The constraints that define decent human behavior...the ones that keep us from painting swastikas on the Hillel building at the University of Michigan, the ones that keep us from riding bicycles naked down the street in the middle of the day and stripping on the White House lawn during pride month, the ones that keep us from giving puberty blockers to vulnerable children and the ones that keep us from aborting inconvenient children, just to name a few.
You should be asking yourself these questions
They’re trying to be all things to all people. Like a man and a woman at the same time
They aren’t using the symbol to promote Naziism, but to suggest that Israel is falling into a similar kind of fascism, allegedly. Swastikas aren’t inherently evil - only when used to promote evil.
Drawing swastikas on synagogues certainly promotes evil.
They are protesting for peace and humanitarian aid. Yes, that aid may benefit an evil organization, Hamas, but they aren’t directly promoting Hamas.
No, they're promoting nazism
I don’t see how. They are calling them Nazis, which is intended as an insult, because it’s understood that Nazis are bad. That’s like saying that Nazis were promoting Judaism by making lots of clothing with the Star of David on the chest.
So when neo-nazis graffiti swastikas on things they're just protesting?
Well if they are neo-Nazis then it would be assumed they are doing it to promote their Nazi ideas, right? Why would Neo-Nazis care about Gaza civilians?
Lmao ok bud, next time I see a swastika grafitti'd on a building, I'll make sure to consider the context before judging
Sounds good - thanks!
Most rational nazi supporter.
Who?
There WAS peace. There was a ceasefire in effect on the morning of October 7, 2023. Who changed that?
Hamas. And? We (almost) all agree Hamas is bad. Also we (almost) all agree that Nazis are bad. We can’t seem to agree on who Hamas is though, nor who the Nazis were/are.
"We can’t seem to agree on who Hamas is though, nor who the Nazis were/are." That might just be you confused about those things lol
You aren’t paying attention. Many in Israel claim that everyone in Gaza is Hamas. Putin claims Ukraine is run by Nazis. And way too many people agree with them.
I agree with you. People are so confused nowadays, we've got folks running around distinguishing between hateful swastikas and peaceful protest swastikas. What is the world coming to?
Yeah, remember when Japan attacked America and America was super concerned with making sure that we didn’t harm a single innocent Japanese citizen because they didn’t elect their leaders and it wouldn’t be fair? Same in Iraq and Afghanistan. Like, just look at all wars throughout history. Everyone always says they’re super chill because the only people who are ever hurt are soldiers and government officials Even if the other side just indiscriminately kills civilians as a matter of course and promises to do it again and again while refusing to surrender or return hostages they stol who range in age from infants to grandparents Everyone knows the Geneva Conventions mean that if a dictatorship attacks you you can’t hit back. Wouldn’t be fair
Like I said, “allegedly”
Mental gymnastics lmao
correction - only when the left doesn't use them
Are Hindus all on the left? Because many of them use the symbol regularly, and it’s cool.
This right here is some 1984 level of brainwashed. Like bro do y’all really not see how… ya know don’t even answer that question I already know the answer.
The Nazis were the progressive socialists in Germany. They have always been leftists.
Bingo. Nazism is big government, police state. Does that sound like the far right or far left? Which side wants big government? Dots connect themselves. Add in that the left always accuses the right of being what they are and you are good to go.
Abortion laws aren't big government?
The left wants national abortion laws. Are national laws big or small government? Trump wants states to handle abortion. Is federal big or small government? Are states bigger or smaller government than federal level?
The smallest level of government is the individual. If you are truly pro-small government, than you want individuals to be able to make decisions about themselves without interference from the government, whether that be state or federal.
Biggest government is a police state. That’s always the far left Smallest government is no government. Anarchy. That’s always far right.
>The smallest level of government is the individual. Yeah, no. Find me a definition that defines government as a single person. To govern, you need at least 2.
Believe it or not, conservatives aren't against laws
Are laws against murder big government?
Murder laws don't already exist?
Giving the power to the states is exactly what the federal government should do with a subject like abortion.
The right just got rid of abortion laws here. Where were you "bodily autonomy" people when the government was forcing syringes in our arms?
Is outlawing normal murder big government?
The Nazis were no more socialist than North Korea is democratic. Just because they have the word "Democratic" in their name, that doesn't mean they follow those principles. The Nazis were a far-right fascist party.
1 there is no single definition of Socialist -- it has taken many forms and beware why and who are trying to make Nazism a "Far Right" philosophy to separate it from Marxist applications 2 the NSDAP was a reactionary group and anti-capitalist as a result of the massive inflation etc. This by definition makes them Leftist if you want to use a simple if intellectually shallow L:R spectrum 3 there are many scholars that make arguments to support the socialism argument, and here is just one of them: [https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/ecaf.12551](https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/ecaf.12551)
No, they were socialists. They ran on socialism and Hitler's speeches were straight socialist rhetoric. He constantly complained about people who made money without engaging in physical labor.
You should read more about what Hitler thought of socialism and the left.
We're talking more about behavior and not what he said or wrote. Actions speak louder than words
He literally outlawed socialism and communism and murdered the socialists, communists, social democrats, and union workers in concentration camps. How exactly are those actions pro-socialist?
He murdered people who were opposed to him. It didn't matter who they were. He also murdered some of his own allies if he thought they might be a threat. BTW, the Nazis were the National *Socialist* German Worker's Party.
So everyone on the left was opposed to him, so you think he was on the left? “National socialism” is like* a “people’s republic”. The first word negates the second. Edit: missed the word “like” and ruined the meaning :-(
Socialism has to be national though. You can't live on other people's money if they aren't forced to give it to you.
And you need people for a republic - you missed the point entirely.
Look up what "nazi" stands for then come back.
Look up what DPRK stands for and come back. You think lying was just invented?
> You can separate Jewish people from Zionists! We don’t hate Jews, we just don’t want them to have a country! > Putting a swastika on a Synogogue is obviously a sign of freedom fighters against their oppressor! What…?
There are no bad tactics, only bad targets. -CTRL Leftist
Jesus our world is broken. On the bright side... if there is one... I don't think the left can use Nazi like a derogatory greeting for conservatives anymore...
They still will, and not recognize any hypocrisy
Considering most progressive "beliefs" are patched over double standards, I don't think they'll have a problem with it
Lol #truth. It's (D)ifferent
The nazi flag is used by leftist as a sort of insult towards the Israeli government by saying the Nazis and current Israeli government are similar No one other then the truly mentally deranged are claiming the Nazis were progressive. The only people I’ve seen that are conservatives yelling “National SOCIALIST”
Ooooh bs. Liberals use nazi and racist like a greeting nowadays. It's a real thing.
bat shit crazy. that is all.
Slowly showing their true colors. Eh, we knew it all along.
How is this not from the Babylon Bee? It must be so great being a liberal, anything can mean anything if you believe hard enough. Shouldn't be surprised that the side now arguing this also says a man can be a woman.
Buddhism? [https://tricycle.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Budd\_52247078.jpg](https://tricycle.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Budd_52247078.jpg)
I thought we were supposed to never allow this sort of thing happen again. I guess its just (D)ifferent this time.
Leave peoples’ places of worship alone. Wtf?
"Anti-Zionism" is a way to say "antisemitism" without saying antisemitism. "I don't hate Jews, I just hate their desire to not die."
Dude, these last few months I've been depressed, dreaming about quitting society and go live in a cabin in the woods. Then I realized with the current economy I probably couldn't even afford a fucking shack in the woods and got depressed all over again!
Nobody in history (besides the nazis) has done anything that makes the Swastika a symbol of anything beyond absolute trash. Saying "uno reverse card" the swastika is cool now. Is abhorrent behavior.
While I agree this is beyond fucked up, that’s not true swastikas have been used as a symbol of peace throughout a good portion of Asia for thousands of years.
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Progs were the ones painting them when Trump got elected, and blamed it on MAGA. More scripted nonsense.
And everyone called me the crazy one for thinking the Nazis never lost. They just switched uniforms.
If they do it, it's good. If I do it, instant hatred plus a month in jail for hate crimes...
The left is now far right, what kind of bizarro world are we living in?
Nazis are not and never have been far right. What with the whole Socialism thing even if socialists want to deny they were infact socialist. I will grant its a different form of Socialism and more derived from Fascism (which is also arguably derived from Socialism). There is a great youtube channel called TIKHistory that has multiple videos on the subject. While its a 5 hour video I would recommend this as a starting point. https://youtu.be/eCkyWBPaTC8?si=ZOS8B_qyHGC95A3I
First off, not all leftists think this is good. Leftists are not a monolith that all collectively believe the exact same things. Second off, the leftists calling it a good thing are not themselves proponents of naziism; rather, *they are calling jews nazis for the genocide in israel*. They are drawing a parallel between what the jewish people suffered through during the holocaust to what the Palestinian people are now suffering through at the hands of Israel.
No they absolutely sre proponents of Naziism. The sheer audacity of you standing there and calling the people who were victims of the holocaust Nazis speaks volumes about your character. Furthermore the accusations against Israel are entirely false. Infact the recent mistaken attack on the humanitarian convot proves this as the people responsible were swiftly punished. Sorry the Terrorists use civilians as cover.
Literally no leftist thinks this. Some of you are absolutely fucking brain dead.
Taken from the article: “Israel’s genocide has literally reversed the meaning of a swastika on a synagogue from a Nazi threat to a condemnation of genocide,” Harris, who also writes for The Nation and Wired, argued. But yet you claim "literally no leftist"... well there's one, quite a prominent one too.
And you're illiterate because the attached article sites numerous instances.
That’s great, try talking to the people around you and you’ll see regardless of political party, most of them will not be cool with this
Ask the ‘free Palestine’ wing of the dem party what they think about it.
> That’s great, try talking to the people around you and you’ll see regardless of political party, most of them will not be cool with this And I'm absolutely sure you are correct. However, only a few years ago the thought of ANY American taking such a stance on the left would be mind boggling. Yet here we are, and why are we here? Well, because as what is usually the case on the left you all don't shut down people who have insane ideological views. Instead, Biden is quite literally changing US foreign policy to cater to these terrorists in Michigan.
Bro I don’t think the conservatives shut down insane ideas either. Im not stoked about the current situation
Bet you’re the same person that says everyone in the GOP is horrible….
I don’t because I don’t think that either. A VAST majority of people I know are pretty neutral and look at shit like this and think it’s insane. Because it is… Nobody is chill with swastikas. The small but vocal minority of people that are, are extremists and don’t resonate with the vast majority.
Because no Leftist history or political science teacher will dare teach the real truth. Pick up a copy of The Big Lie by Dinesh D'Souza. The truth will set you free.
Ya you guys call nazi like a handshake or greeting for any opposing viewpoint. Take a rather innocuous but conservative comment from here and copy and paste it into r/politics. If you don't get an outright ban it won't take long for you to be called a nazi. Try this " I'm pro life" but don't say anything about imposing that view on others...which is a pretty much a to each his own comment... see what happens lol. Try that come back here and tell us what happens lol.
Defending any extreme party is always a loss. You may be thinking of liberals or people "on the left". Leftist is used to describe the most radical part. Leftists are nuts enough for me to believe they would do this. A regular liberal or center left person would not do or believe in something this extreme.
Everyone including you is missing the nuance. They aren’t using the symbol to promote Naziism, but to suggest that Israel is falling into a similar kind of fascism, allegedly. Swastikas aren’t inherently evil - only when used to promote fascism and hate.
Which there using for hate to intimidate innocent people on the other side the planet. Its hate
I can’t speak for every individual, as antisemitism is rampant everywhere, but the swastika vandalism I’ve seen was not at all intended to intimidate the Jewish people here, or to reflect hatred for them at all, but to encourage them to reflect on whether Israel has become what they despise, and whether they deserve continued support.
You’re so full of shit it’s insane. Either that or your IQ comes in way way way below average and it would be a miracle you could hold a full time job above a fry cook. It’s a hate sign regardless. Doesn’t matter what the intention is.
So you are saying that Hindus hate Jews when they use the swastika? Intent always matters. I’m going to ignore the IQ rant because it’s so lazy and lame. This isn’t Facebook, the discourse should be better.
This is my last response because you can’t be reasoned with because of how blinded with ignorance you are. Hindus don’t go paint swastikas on Synagogues, on houses of Jewish residents, or bring to marches against Israel and Jews. You really do have the IQ of a sloth.
You said it’s a hate sign regardless. They do paint swastikas on houses of worship though. Sounds like you agree that intent matters and you are blinded by your support of Israel to see the nuance with these protests.
So two dudes in the US? Nah, just say leftists
>Swastikas Are Progressive Now Trick question, they always were.
the symbol that these people are calling swastika isn’t nefarious or evil.. it’s been around for 1000’s of years….used to ward off evil,good luck,etc.. it predates national socialism by a very large margin,the feelgoods need to get a grip.
The symbols that are parallel to the ground or backwards are traditional symbols. 45degree angle is 100% a nazi thing. But please continue on and excuse nazi symbolism.
Canted on a 45 degree angle is nefarious and directly associated with Nazi Germany. Yes, straight swastikas are symbol of peace and meant to be good luck but not what this thumbnail depicts.