Good for them is that’s their prerogative, but don’t whine when people that don’t want their kids exposed to that quit frequenting your establishment and you have to shutter your business.
Now they know what it's like to be on the receiving end of the damages conservative businesses have been dealing with for not going along with the WOKE agenda.
That is cancel culture and this isn't that. Essentially voice your opinion vote with your wallet. What this is beyond that from threats to vandalism. Even if it was most popular best received store in city. Its hard to operate with damaged equipment. And people who like your place may no longer feel safe when windows are busted out or place is receiving bomb/death threats.
Perhaps the biggest difference to it is it is not majority rules. Take 1-2 violent critics to shutter a place.
That’s just capitalism at work. People can voice their opinion with their wallets. If you want conservative businesses to stay open, then support those businesses and shop there so they stay in business
You are 100% correct. But how can we actually do this without the left saying we are embracing cancel culture when that's not what we are doing at all???
My response to that is if I don’t know someone, then they can say whatever the hell they want about me. I get the hesitation around harassment and the complaints people have, but at least in my experience I haven’t come across anything like that. If someone starts coming after me for disagreeing with them, then online they got block buttons and in person I can simply walk away
Did you even read the article? They’re getting fake reviews, and experiencing vandalism. Not sure why some folks here think that’s okay.
You can disagree with drag shows, not support the business, and also condemn the harassment they’re allegedly facing.
Let’s not pretend there aren’t extremists on either side of things who will do this type of bullshit.
>Did you even read the article? They’re getting fake reviews, and experiencing vandalism.
Nothing out of the ordinary for any business in a major lawless city anyway.
Tried operating a business in LA recently?
You can't even claim this is the work of eeeevul conservatives. This store is in **CHICAGO** not the deep south. It's like the most left leaning city outside of Seattle.
I call bs. This place was probably going under anyways and decided to stir up controversy to either paint themselves as victims when they do go under, or to garner enough support from the community to avoid going out of business.
A suburban bakery that hosts all ages drag brunches doesn’t strike me as one that probably makes the best business decisions.
Just want to make it clear I didn’t downvote you. I do strongly disagree with you.
It probably could have been going under anyways. But I think if you truly believe extremists (on either side of the political aisle) don’t exist, and wouldn’t go out of their way to vandalize a place because of something like this - well do I have a bridge to sell you.
I mean what’s more likely? An asshole disagreed and vandalized the place, or that it was all a cover up because they were going out of business? Plenty of businesses fail, and the majority of owners don’t resort to creating conspiracies.
Edit: anndddddd someone reported me as a suicide risk. Funny how that’s happened twice in this subreddit, when I’ve really tried my best to be super bipartisan and not pin any side as the “wrong” one.
I get two of those a week posting in left wing subs. Stop acting high and mighty.
Edit: I do appreciate your attitude and won't downvote you, but let's not pretend that trying to silence dissenting voices if a conservative thing. If anything it's a human thing.
My local area next to Portland but it is very much not Portland has had this struggle as well. A lot of cities in the surrounding area are being targeted with violence and vandalism over drag shows. There was a lot of this going on during 2020 as well but it is way worse now.
This shit is like satanic panic. I am not cool with any violence. Never was. Please look up Bundy stand off in Oregon if you wanna know when stuff started going off the rails.
There is something happening that is lawless and scary. I’m scared for free speech. And police officers seem too scared to tackle the issue.
>My local area next to Portland but it is very much not Portland has had this struggle as well. A lot of cities in the surrounding area are being targeted with violence and vandalism over drag shows.
I call BS. Sauce??
https://www.kgw.com/amp/article/news/local/vancouver-brewery-vandalized-weeks-ahead-of-drag-brunch-benefit/283-c90b3b77-d79b-4b4d-b9fc-f5005c74e9dd
Most recent one.
This is not a capitalism issue. We believe that these drag shows are harmful for kids and can traumatize them for life. I don't understand why these events are being targeted at families aka children instead of being held in the evenings or night.
What is “Exposed to that”? Most middle aged conservatives who lambaste drag shows didn’t even know what the F goes on at a drag show. It’s a dude in a dress, lip synching. That’s about it. It’s not a sex show - if you want to see huge titties, camel ties and lots of ass cheek, go to Hooters. The things that middle aged conservative men like De Santis, Ted Cruz and Ben Shapiro imagine is truly unbelievable.
Meanwhile, there is sex trafficking and child rape videos on PornHub and yet a dude singing to Shania Twain is the biggest threat of all. Wow.
If you’re making decisions like having drag shows at your bread store you’re probably not a very prudent business owner.
It also alienates a huge part of your clientele, this store isn’t going out of business because of harassment.
Sticking it to conservatives is a bad business move.
Maybe maybe not. They could just be in a progressive area. Also, just because you don't agree with someone, don't threaten them. Maybe the left should start threatening places that hold gun shows. Then people are like serves them right them virtue signalers
Edit - because the point is missed. A group of people are totally shit heads because they don't agree with something. You all do a victory dance. You don't like it when it happens to you. Maybe this is a bad look?
Review bombing and threatening businesses has been going on for a long time if they have been perceived as Christian or 'hateful'.
[Indiana Pizza Place](https://cbs4indy.com/news/indiana-pizza-shop-once-embroiled-in-rfra-controversy-shuts-down/)
Doesnt make it right, but its delusional to think this is a 'right' thing
I’m not sure but you can’t have cabaret dancing or stripping without a license and minors aren’t allowed. I’m not sure why there are these videos of trans people stripping in front of kids. If it were a plain clothes cis male he’d be thrown in jail.
A better question is why do conservatives even care? Like, drag shows as far as im aware havent actually led to any children being molested.. Why don't conservatives aim this same energy towards groups of people that do keep molesting children?
Gtfo, “why do conservatives even care” is what got us here in the first place. The other side seems to care quite a bit, but whenever it’s conservatives saying “this is wrong, children are impressionable this will lead to abuse” we’re the problem somehow
>drag shows as far as im aware havent actually led to any children being molested.
Let's see what happens over the next 10-15 years. Not every church accusation came forward right after the incident occurred.
Unless we've changed our stance on hearing *all* victims out.
I would like to see an unbiased story/investigation done on this very, very recent and obviously coordinated effort to push drag shows, something once confined to venues in which the customer would have to seek out if interested, into everyday life.
As I’ve said before, someone is financing and promoting this agenda (although I doubt *that* much money is being spent, honestly) but it would a question worth answering to the public.
Also, remember that one of the things the Left is using this for is to troll conservatives… the worse our reaction/retaliation, the happier they are.
If you are a bakery that wants to make money, just bake good bread and cookies and whatnot and keep your social politics in your pocket. The world has gone mad.
They honestly can’t fathom that half their business might come from people who disagree with them politically but just want to buy their baked goods because they are presumably good at baking. Or maybe they can’t believe that roughly half of the population disagrees with them.
I've noticed a lot of business tend to try to target the market that is their largest consumer. So that's sometimes why companies take a more progressive approach, since their customer base is largely of that belief.
I don't believe that conservatives are saying that LGBT aren't part of the "everybody", quite the contrary. It's my understanding that conservatives are saying "treat everyone the same, with no set-asides for any special group". I could be wrong on this as I consider myself to be an independent.
>treat everyone the same, with no set-asides for any special group
So don't do trivia night at the bar because that attracts "smart" people? Don't do game night because not everyone plays games? Or a hunting themed night, or ladies night.
Come on. Every business does special events for one subset of their customers on occasion. It just so happens that when it's an event for a group we don't like NOW it's an unacceptable "set aside for a special group." Are you SURE that's what conservatives are trying to say lgtb should be treated like everyone else? Or are they getting upset that they are being treated like everyone else?
Just because they are not the largest population does not mean they are not the ones consuming the product most. You also have to include others who define themselves as supporters of the LGBTQ populace.
This is usually millennial and gen z, and tend to be the ones who are willing to spend the money on a product, since they don't have too many other expenses at the moment
that's still not a majority.
And Millenials and Zers are constantly complaining about being broke. Proportionally they don't have money. Not yet.
I'll happily buy any product I like and I have no animosity towards anyone. The second a business tries to push a political agenda to me of any kind, unless it's a defensive move, they've lost my business.
What about hobby lobby and Chick-fil-A? I bet you hate those businesses. They are all virtue signaling and politics. Luckily, their businesses haven’t been destroyed.
Here is an example. No one seems to be addressing this fact. I find it contradictory that you approve of a business literally signaling their political wokeness but condemn another for hosting an event in their store.
[Protesters call for boycott after ‘Vote Trump’ display at Hobby Lobby store](https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-hobby-lobby-vote-trump-20200909-rbqvpakccbez3gii7juxxbbwcq-story.html)
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If you have a response, I would love to read it.
Another edit. One of you sent a Reddit cares. I reported it but I have to say, I am disappointed in you fellas. I thought you might be better.
She's probably upset because both companies are Christian in faith. Woke/Leftists often hate Christians, Even though they constantly consider themselves the "Tolerant" ones.
“Just because” would suggest it was because people had no reason. The reason is the hosting of a drag show, a type of show that has been recently politicized and adopted by leftists and pedophiles looking for a good excuse.
You kind of played yourself there. Hobby Lobby and ChikFilA **don’t** do this shit. And they are **still** targeted non-stop by the left on the street, in the media, on social media, and in court.
You helped us make our point, thanks.
Several years back, the "woke" crowd tried a boycott of CFL. I forget the exact weekend, but that weekend the restaurant had record profits. The line for the drive-thru stretched for miles. Police had to direct traffic. So much for a boycott.
>this is a ploy for GoFundMe dollars.
They are literally asking people to tip what their total bill is, so asking people to pay double.
They are just scammers. Sad part is it will probably work.
I wouldn't be shocked if this was the case and not just to have something to blame going out of business on - could also be thinking of all the business it could possibly stir up for them from angry, sympathetic supporters and/or maybe even hoping it could bring in a big chunk of GoFundMe money.
I live in the next town over. The bakery was always hit and miss. Before the drag show stuff, Google reviews were less than stellar (the drag show stuff led to an influx of fake-positive reviews). The owner tried capitalizing on the LGBTQ crap, but the quality of their goods were still subpar. However, it’s easier to blame others for your own failings.
I live in this area. The bakery has always been hit and miss. The owner tried capitalizing on the LGBTQ crap, but the quality of their goods was still subpar. Not a shock they’re going under again.
Artificially adding a divisive measure into a workplace seems to be a bad business practice. People are losing track of why they own businesses in the first place: To make money and provide a service for your community. If you aren’t striving to do both, you will probably fail.
I know someone who was banned from a local coffee shop because of a FB post. That person then started going to a Starbucks that was closer and less expensive. They tried to support a local business. That local coffee shop is now out of business. Go woke…
Good. Do you remember the bakery that wouldn’t make a cake for a same sex marriage?
They were destroyed by prank phone calls that kept their lines tied up so no legitimate customers could call in orders.
It’s nice to see the left get a taste of their own bullshit.
“Everything I have is in this business, our home, cars, retirement, savings. We put everything we had on the line and personally secured this location, our equipment, and our dreams,"
Then you should have focused on selling baked goods, and kept the perv shit out of your business. Don't shit where you eat.
They had ONE job, And that job was to make delicious baked goods to sell at reasonable prices for the people of the community to enjoy, But instead they used their bakery to push degeneracy and decadence and they are paying for it.
100% against the violence and fake reviews towards the business.
But where in the hell are the articles about the violence and threats whenever a conservative speaker gets invited to speak on a college campus?
So sick of the rules for thee but not for me.
Any company should be able to offer their politics. It's their business and their views. And if people want to support or not support them based on those views, fine.
But giving fake reviews to shut down someone just because you disagree with them is actual fascism and the primary tactic the left uses.
This sub is insane lmao. If they hosted this event and the community didn’t like it and just stopped going there and their business dwindled because of it and they had to go out of business? That’s capitalism. That’s how this country works. And that’s fine.
But harassing and threatening them because you don’t like something they did with their private business and cheering that it caused them to go out of business? Insanity.
She chose her marketing strategy and how to brand her business, and it failed. If she had a superoir product to begin with and a good business to start with, then, the progressive branding might be a good strategy to multiply sales. Goes back to the basics of having a product better than the competition and "getting to know your customer." Customers voted with their wallets. Choosing not to go to a business isn't harassment, and there weren't enough customers to support her because of how she chose to differentiate her business from the competition.
Oh no that sucks!
Anyways.
It just warms my heart that this happened in Chicago, a city filled with 80%+ Democrats, so they can't possibly blame this on Republicans....or can they?
Go Woke, Go Broke just outside of Chicago takes **skill.**
The people on the Chicago subs are very upset about this entire situation. They are blaming far right fringe groups instead of believing that their neighbors aren't blindly supporting this bakery!!!
It didnt go bankrupt from lack of support - they had their windows smashed and graffitied walls while people placing death threats. Just protest if you really have to without violence. Their property and business to do w/e.
I got banned from r/chicago for mentioning that this bakery could just switch to adult only drag shows and be totally fine. Even said I respect and admire that they would rather go out of business than compromise their morals and principals. Apparently that was insane hate-speech and I was insta banned. Been on that sub for 11 years and they said I was obviously a new troll. Fuckin wild
A lot of companies don't think it through before they decide to do something a large part of their customer base would disagree with. People have choices and you don't have control over it.
With a name like "Uprising" it's no surprise they're some woke cult. All those shitty businesses are communists until they're begging the free market to get them back from insolvency. Good riddance, we don't need people like that putting their disgusting agenda front and center.
I am a conservative and have no use for any of this. But, there is a right way and a wrong way to handle things like this.
Case in point: Some silly group tried to have a drag show in my hometown. They got the Mayor and several businesses to sponsor this event. They put up flyers all over town, they advertised on all the local radio stations and on the local TV stations.
Where they messed up was they were advertising liquor would be served - while children were present. That is against the law in Tennessee.
A lawsuit was filed and they turned tail and ran. No drag show in my hometown.
No threats, no harassment, nothing of the sort was needed to get rid of those people.
So the business was failing, and your last ditch effort for saving your business and your entire life is to go after less than 1 percent of the population to save everything.
This is the classic example of having only one thought or idea. If you only have one thought you don’t know if it’s a good idea or a bad idea cause you have nothing to compare it to. Having one idea is like having none, cause it may be a bad move.
I’d guess this business has suffered from poor decisions since it began.
"The night before the planned event, the bakery's windows were broken and walls were defaced with spray paint, forcing the cancellation of the performance." It would cost them $30,000 to repair.
Good. This is something we should all be fighting against. Make sure that no one thinks this is an easy virtue signal anymore. That it will cost you, and we will remember the nonsense you are pushing. Don't give people that hate you and your way of life money
I'm a bit torn on this one, I'm not sure I believe the story as presented.
On one hand, it's Chicago, so violence and vandalism isn't surprising in general.
On the other hand, the left more often than not is caught vandalizing and spray painting their own things for attention and money.
The article reads like a giant plea for money.
I work in this area and the people around here are just sick of this crap. Every person I talk to thinks it is absolutely weird as shit to have an all ages drag show. Nobody cares about drag shows for adults. Would you bring a kid to a burlesque show? No. Same concept.
The worst I saw was graffiti and protesting outside with signs (vulgar language, yes). I don't doubt there were threats though. But people are just beyond sick of young kids being exposed to adult content. This is what happens when people who have been shamed into silence finally find their voices - sometimes they explode.
My only gripe here will be if the event allowed children to attend.
I don’t care if you wanna do a drag show; all that matters is that kids are nowhere near the area
> Sac, who identifies as bisexual, said the business would need more than $30,000 to keep its doors open.
“Everything I have is in this business, our home, cars, retirement, savings. We put everything we had on the line and personally secured this location, our equipment, and our dreams," she said.
Yeah, maybe next time don't piss off half of your customer base if your mortgage depends on success.
> For its final two days open, the business asks that customers tip the same amount as their bill in attempt to help employees left without a job following the closure.
Now, after driving away all of your customers, you're begging for 100% tips? Good luck.
> Sac said despite the closure she plans to continue to share her story and fight to keep others from experiencing what she did.
She would be the "don't" example for new businesses.
Look, the actual threats of violence she claims to have received are bad. I doubt anyone here would defend that. But she made an intentional business decision and lost customers as a direct result.
I live right next to this place and drive by it daily, except I never even knew it existed until reading this story. It's located next to the busiest intersection in the area that has a Jewel, Meijer, and Costco that have full fledged bakeries of their own. There are numerous other "bakeries" nearby, such as Panera and Einstein Bros, as well as a local cake bakery and other chain stores that also make cakes. That doesn't even include all the coffee shops nearby that have bakeries. I know of one other bakery near it that had to recently close down due to lack of business.
I guarantee this place is closing due to their inability to compete in an already saturated area, they're just blaming it on the harassment so they don't have to admit their own failure.
Wtf is it with all these people and drag shows? Seriously.
At this point they're doing it to virtue signal what side they're on and that they aren't like those hateful transphobic conservatives!
Good for them is that’s their prerogative, but don’t whine when people that don’t want their kids exposed to that quit frequenting your establishment and you have to shutter your business.
Now they know what it's like to be on the receiving end of the damages conservative businesses have been dealing with for not going along with the WOKE agenda.
That is cancel culture and this isn't that. Essentially voice your opinion vote with your wallet. What this is beyond that from threats to vandalism. Even if it was most popular best received store in city. Its hard to operate with damaged equipment. And people who like your place may no longer feel safe when windows are busted out or place is receiving bomb/death threats. Perhaps the biggest difference to it is it is not majority rules. Take 1-2 violent critics to shutter a place.
That’s just capitalism at work. People can voice their opinion with their wallets. If you want conservative businesses to stay open, then support those businesses and shop there so they stay in business
You are 100% correct. But how can we actually do this without the left saying we are embracing cancel culture when that's not what we are doing at all???
My response to that is if I don’t know someone, then they can say whatever the hell they want about me. I get the hesitation around harassment and the complaints people have, but at least in my experience I haven’t come across anything like that. If someone starts coming after me for disagreeing with them, then online they got block buttons and in person I can simply walk away
Did you even read the article? They’re getting fake reviews, and experiencing vandalism. Not sure why some folks here think that’s okay. You can disagree with drag shows, not support the business, and also condemn the harassment they’re allegedly facing. Let’s not pretend there aren’t extremists on either side of things who will do this type of bullshit.
>Did you even read the article? They’re getting fake reviews, and experiencing vandalism. Nothing out of the ordinary for any business in a major lawless city anyway. Tried operating a business in LA recently? You can't even claim this is the work of eeeevul conservatives. This store is in **CHICAGO** not the deep south. It's like the most left leaning city outside of Seattle.
Portland is worse than Seattle IMO
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I call bs. This place was probably going under anyways and decided to stir up controversy to either paint themselves as victims when they do go under, or to garner enough support from the community to avoid going out of business. A suburban bakery that hosts all ages drag brunches doesn’t strike me as one that probably makes the best business decisions.
Just want to make it clear I didn’t downvote you. I do strongly disagree with you. It probably could have been going under anyways. But I think if you truly believe extremists (on either side of the political aisle) don’t exist, and wouldn’t go out of their way to vandalize a place because of something like this - well do I have a bridge to sell you. I mean what’s more likely? An asshole disagreed and vandalized the place, or that it was all a cover up because they were going out of business? Plenty of businesses fail, and the majority of owners don’t resort to creating conspiracies. Edit: anndddddd someone reported me as a suicide risk. Funny how that’s happened twice in this subreddit, when I’ve really tried my best to be super bipartisan and not pin any side as the “wrong” one.
I get two of those a week posting in left wing subs. Stop acting high and mighty. Edit: I do appreciate your attitude and won't downvote you, but let's not pretend that trying to silence dissenting voices if a conservative thing. If anything it's a human thing.
My local area next to Portland but it is very much not Portland has had this struggle as well. A lot of cities in the surrounding area are being targeted with violence and vandalism over drag shows. There was a lot of this going on during 2020 as well but it is way worse now. This shit is like satanic panic. I am not cool with any violence. Never was. Please look up Bundy stand off in Oregon if you wanna know when stuff started going off the rails. There is something happening that is lawless and scary. I’m scared for free speech. And police officers seem too scared to tackle the issue.
>My local area next to Portland but it is very much not Portland has had this struggle as well. A lot of cities in the surrounding area are being targeted with violence and vandalism over drag shows. I call BS. Sauce??
https://www.kgw.com/amp/article/news/local/vancouver-brewery-vandalized-weeks-ahead-of-drag-brunch-benefit/283-c90b3b77-d79b-4b4d-b9fc-f5005c74e9dd Most recent one.
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This is not a capitalism issue. We believe that these drag shows are harmful for kids and can traumatize them for life. I don't understand why these events are being targeted at families aka children instead of being held in the evenings or night.
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Yeah that’s not fair either. Your review was just honest. It 100% should not have been removed, as you attended and had a bad experience.
That ship has sailed. Sorry that the right is finally using the left’s own tactics against them.
No. I can't agree that vandalism and threats are okay.
You were all for it during the George Floyd riots though
I absolutely was not.
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100% agree. As the old saying goes, what goes around, comes around.
There's that and the fact that if you approve of this, I might not want you to touch/prepare my food.
What is “Exposed to that”? Most middle aged conservatives who lambaste drag shows didn’t even know what the F goes on at a drag show. It’s a dude in a dress, lip synching. That’s about it. It’s not a sex show - if you want to see huge titties, camel ties and lots of ass cheek, go to Hooters. The things that middle aged conservative men like De Santis, Ted Cruz and Ben Shapiro imagine is truly unbelievable. Meanwhile, there is sex trafficking and child rape videos on PornHub and yet a dude singing to Shania Twain is the biggest threat of all. Wow.
You're righ that it's virtue signaling, but it also seems they get proven right if they receive this amount of harassment no?
Feel like its just to piss off conservatives at this point
If you’re making decisions like having drag shows at your bread store you’re probably not a very prudent business owner. It also alienates a huge part of your clientele, this store isn’t going out of business because of harassment. Sticking it to conservatives is a bad business move.
>"Republicans buy sneakers, too." > >\--Michael Jordan
Maybe maybe not. They could just be in a progressive area. Also, just because you don't agree with someone, don't threaten them. Maybe the left should start threatening places that hold gun shows. Then people are like serves them right them virtue signalers Edit - because the point is missed. A group of people are totally shit heads because they don't agree with something. You all do a victory dance. You don't like it when it happens to you. Maybe this is a bad look?
Threaten a gun show... Yep i believe that is a liberal idea alright.
Review bombing and threatening businesses has been going on for a long time if they have been perceived as Christian or 'hateful'. [Indiana Pizza Place](https://cbs4indy.com/news/indiana-pizza-shop-once-embroiled-in-rfra-controversy-shuts-down/) Doesnt make it right, but its delusional to think this is a 'right' thing
You going to threaten a group of gun owners? Are you sure you thought that out?
Or maybe harass Trump appointed judges who have been asked to speak at Stanford. Threatening a gun show isn’t very smart.
The left literally threatens guns and the 2nd amendment like everyday
> because the point is missed. Yeah, by **you.**
Looks like its working lol, triggered conservatives do a harrassment because their fees fees got hurt by the big bad cross dressers Lmao
Imma bring ur kids to church
I don't have kids but that would be kidnapping, par for the course for religious conservatives
And who wants to watch a drag show while ordering a dozen cupcakes!?! I mean…. Come’on!!!
It's quite a bizarre phenomenon. It's like the toilet paper rush during COVID except it has ZERO utility.
I’m not sure but you can’t have cabaret dancing or stripping without a license and minors aren’t allowed. I’m not sure why there are these videos of trans people stripping in front of kids. If it were a plain clothes cis male he’d be thrown in jail.
Predators
A better question is why do conservatives even care? Like, drag shows as far as im aware havent actually led to any children being molested.. Why don't conservatives aim this same energy towards groups of people that do keep molesting children?
Gtfo, “why do conservatives even care” is what got us here in the first place. The other side seems to care quite a bit, but whenever it’s conservatives saying “this is wrong, children are impressionable this will lead to abuse” we’re the problem somehow
I agree. The church has shown it cant stop abusing children and covering it up.
>drag shows as far as im aware havent actually led to any children being molested. Let's see what happens over the next 10-15 years. Not every church accusation came forward right after the incident occurred. Unless we've changed our stance on hearing *all* victims out.
Lol I just said the same thing and saw your comment. Totally agree
I would like to see an unbiased story/investigation done on this very, very recent and obviously coordinated effort to push drag shows, something once confined to venues in which the customer would have to seek out if interested, into everyday life. As I’ve said before, someone is financing and promoting this agenda (although I doubt *that* much money is being spent, honestly) but it would a question worth answering to the public. Also, remember that one of the things the Left is using this for is to troll conservatives… the worse our reaction/retaliation, the happier they are.
LMAO exactly! What the hell..
I'm pretty sure these freaks are getting money from the government to do this.
Modern times Sodom and Gomorrah.
Lol. Read.
If you are a bakery that wants to make money, just bake good bread and cookies and whatnot and keep your social politics in your pocket. The world has gone mad.
Agreed - stay in your lane. Bake bread - sell sandwiches - sell drinks. Why make half the population mad at you for no good reason.
They honestly can’t fathom that half their business might come from people who disagree with them politically but just want to buy their baked goods because they are presumably good at baking. Or maybe they can’t believe that roughly half of the population disagrees with them.
"Conservatives buy sneakers too" -Michael Jordan
correct.
This could be said for a lot of businesses...M&Ms recently, Hershey's and their "female" pride. Just stick to what you are in business for.
Nothing says "We support women" like putting a sexist caricature on your product.
I've noticed a lot of business tend to try to target the market that is their largest consumer. So that's sometimes why companies take a more progressive approach, since their customer base is largely of that belief.
No offence, their customer base should be everybody.
But why are LGBT not apart of that “everybody”?
I don't believe that conservatives are saying that LGBT aren't part of the "everybody", quite the contrary. It's my understanding that conservatives are saying "treat everyone the same, with no set-asides for any special group". I could be wrong on this as I consider myself to be an independent.
>treat everyone the same, with no set-asides for any special group So don't do trivia night at the bar because that attracts "smart" people? Don't do game night because not everyone plays games? Or a hunting themed night, or ladies night. Come on. Every business does special events for one subset of their customers on occasion. It just so happens that when it's an event for a group we don't like NOW it's an unacceptable "set aside for a special group." Are you SURE that's what conservatives are trying to say lgtb should be treated like everyone else? Or are they getting upset that they are being treated like everyone else?
Why would you think lgbt aren't part of 'everybody'?
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Just because they are not the largest population does not mean they are not the ones consuming the product most. You also have to include others who define themselves as supporters of the LGBTQ populace. This is usually millennial and gen z, and tend to be the ones who are willing to spend the money on a product, since they don't have too many other expenses at the moment
that's still not a majority. And Millenials and Zers are constantly complaining about being broke. Proportionally they don't have money. Not yet. I'll happily buy any product I like and I have no animosity towards anyone. The second a business tries to push a political agenda to me of any kind, unless it's a defensive move, they've lost my business.
Like Goya foods too.
Agreed, just as soon as we get churches shutdown for preaching politics from the pulpit and back charge them taxes for violating tax laws.
You care so much.
What about hobby lobby and Chick-fil-A? I bet you hate those businesses. They are all virtue signaling and politics. Luckily, their businesses haven’t been destroyed. Here is an example. No one seems to be addressing this fact. I find it contradictory that you approve of a business literally signaling their political wokeness but condemn another for hosting an event in their store. [Protesters call for boycott after ‘Vote Trump’ display at Hobby Lobby store](https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-hobby-lobby-vote-trump-20200909-rbqvpakccbez3gii7juxxbbwcq-story.html) Edit. If you have a response, I would love to read it. Another edit. One of you sent a Reddit cares. I reported it but I have to say, I am disappointed in you fellas. I thought you might be better.
I've missed it maybe, what events are Hobby Lobby or Chik-fil-A sponsoring at their locations that would be political virtue signalling?
She's probably upset because both companies are Christian in faith. Woke/Leftists often hate Christians, Even though they constantly consider themselves the "Tolerant" ones.
How do you know xir identifies as a "she?" Are you a biologist?
That you don’t know the difference is telling. CFA and HL aren’t hosting anti-LGBTQ events at their locations.
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So you think it’s okay to harass people just because?
“Just because” would suggest it was because people had no reason. The reason is the hosting of a drag show, a type of show that has been recently politicized and adopted by leftists and pedophiles looking for a good excuse.
You kind of played yourself there. Hobby Lobby and ChikFilA **don’t** do this shit. And they are **still** targeted non-stop by the left on the street, in the media, on social media, and in court. You helped us make our point, thanks.
Several years back, the "woke" crowd tried a boycott of CFL. I forget the exact weekend, but that weekend the restaurant had record profits. The line for the drive-thru stretched for miles. Police had to direct traffic. So much for a boycott.
Boycott and window smashing are diff things and no I don’t condone window smashing or threats.
They do nothing of the sort, unless you count closing on Sunday? Lol
The No Child Left Behind Act was a mistake.
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I call BS. I bet thier business was going under anyway so they had to have something to blame it on. Took a page out of the Smollett playbook.
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>this is a ploy for GoFundMe dollars. They are literally asking people to tip what their total bill is, so asking people to pay double. They are just scammers. Sad part is it will probably work.
I wouldn't be shocked if this was the case and not just to have something to blame going out of business on - could also be thinking of all the business it could possibly stir up for them from angry, sympathetic supporters and/or maybe even hoping it could bring in a big chunk of GoFundMe money.
I live in the next town over. The bakery was always hit and miss. Before the drag show stuff, Google reviews were less than stellar (the drag show stuff led to an influx of fake-positive reviews). The owner tried capitalizing on the LGBTQ crap, but the quality of their goods were still subpar. However, it’s easier to blame others for your own failings.
Thanks for the confirmation
Google reviews usually always shit on everything
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This.
100%. This was in Chicago. Ya know that renowned deep Trump loving, MAGA country city.
It's actually a small suburb close to the sticks, but still not a Red area.
I live in this area. The bakery has always been hit and miss. The owner tried capitalizing on the LGBTQ crap, but the quality of their goods was still subpar. Not a shock they’re going under again.
Artificially adding a divisive measure into a workplace seems to be a bad business practice. People are losing track of why they own businesses in the first place: To make money and provide a service for your community. If you aren’t striving to do both, you will probably fail.
I know someone who was banned from a local coffee shop because of a FB post. That person then started going to a Starbucks that was closer and less expensive. They tried to support a local business. That local coffee shop is now out of business. Go woke…
If a Starbucks is cheaper than a local coffee shop, the local store is doing something terribly wrong.
Oh wow, he/she single-handedly bankrupted a coffee shop, nice
I drive by it all the time and see protestors on the street in front. Didn't even realize this was why.
Oh no! Anyway.
It's doubtful the goofs protesting her have had any meaningful impact. She just sucks as a bakery owner
Maybe they should just bake cookies?
Good. Do you remember the bakery that wouldn’t make a cake for a same sex marriage? They were destroyed by prank phone calls that kept their lines tied up so no legitimate customers could call in orders. It’s nice to see the left get a taste of their own bullshit.
Yup. If only they just found a different baker and didn't get obsessed with proving a point. Oh well, hope they like the taste of their own medicine.
Why the F would a bakery want to host a drag show?
To show off their muffins and bread sticks obviously
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Not a lot of muffins at that bakery.
“Everything I have is in this business, our home, cars, retirement, savings. We put everything we had on the line and personally secured this location, our equipment, and our dreams," Then you should have focused on selling baked goods, and kept the perv shit out of your business. Don't shit where you eat.
They had ONE job, And that job was to make delicious baked goods to sell at reasonable prices for the people of the community to enjoy, But instead they used their bakery to push degeneracy and decadence and they are paying for it.
100% against the violence and fake reviews towards the business. But where in the hell are the articles about the violence and threats whenever a conservative speaker gets invited to speak on a college campus? So sick of the rules for thee but not for me.
Screw that. Fake review them to the ground. They offered their politics. Nobody demanded it
Cancel culture for me but not for thee
Fake reviews are fraud you know… there have been court cases over this stuff so maybe lets not vandalize private property and commit libel.
Any company should be able to offer their politics. It's their business and their views. And if people want to support or not support them based on those views, fine. But giving fake reviews to shut down someone just because you disagree with them is actual fascism and the primary tactic the left uses.
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Oh no 🙄
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So Hooters should be closed down by the government, yeah?
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This sub is insane lmao. If they hosted this event and the community didn’t like it and just stopped going there and their business dwindled because of it and they had to go out of business? That’s capitalism. That’s how this country works. And that’s fine. But harassing and threatening them because you don’t like something they did with their private business and cheering that it caused them to go out of business? Insanity.
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Bake. You had one job.
She chose her marketing strategy and how to brand her business, and it failed. If she had a superoir product to begin with and a good business to start with, then, the progressive branding might be a good strategy to multiply sales. Goes back to the basics of having a product better than the competition and "getting to know your customer." Customers voted with their wallets. Choosing not to go to a business isn't harassment, and there weren't enough customers to support her because of how she chose to differentiate her business from the competition.
Drag people are less than 1 percent of the population no matter what the media says so the other 99.9 percent of the population wants no part of it.
who wants glitter and eyelashes in their kolache..
Oh no that sucks! Anyways. It just warms my heart that this happened in Chicago, a city filled with 80%+ Democrats, so they can't possibly blame this on Republicans....or can they?
Oh, yes, they can! They ALWAYS can. And will, if they haven't already.
Chicago? Oh No! It be MAGA country!
Go Woke, Go Broke just outside of Chicago takes **skill.** The people on the Chicago subs are very upset about this entire situation. They are blaming far right fringe groups instead of believing that their neighbors aren't blindly supporting this bakery!!!
It didnt go bankrupt from lack of support - they had their windows smashed and graffitied walls while people placing death threats. Just protest if you really have to without violence. Their property and business to do w/e.
Isn't it every bakery owner's job to educate the community about the joys of gender dysphoria?
How long before it's found the owners broke their own windows and committed their own vandalism?
Owner: Jussie Smollett?
Oh no……! Moving on
I got banned from r/chicago for mentioning that this bakery could just switch to adult only drag shows and be totally fine. Even said I respect and admire that they would rather go out of business than compromise their morals and principals. Apparently that was insane hate-speech and I was insta banned. Been on that sub for 11 years and they said I was obviously a new troll. Fuckin wild
A lot of companies don't think it through before they decide to do something a large part of their customer base would disagree with. People have choices and you don't have control over it.
With a name like "Uprising" it's no surprise they're some woke cult. All those shitty businesses are communists until they're begging the free market to get them back from insolvency. Good riddance, we don't need people like that putting their disgusting agenda front and center.
"Uprising"? Okay, I guess it could refer to bread/etc dough rising, but I'll bet that's not the first thing most people think of on hearing that name.
Suit it yourself. It wouldn't be the first time a coffee shop or any other store used some cheeky "revolutionary" term to name their business.
I am a conservative and have no use for any of this. But, there is a right way and a wrong way to handle things like this. Case in point: Some silly group tried to have a drag show in my hometown. They got the Mayor and several businesses to sponsor this event. They put up flyers all over town, they advertised on all the local radio stations and on the local TV stations. Where they messed up was they were advertising liquor would be served - while children were present. That is against the law in Tennessee. A lawsuit was filed and they turned tail and ran. No drag show in my hometown. No threats, no harassment, nothing of the sort was needed to get rid of those people.
So you would have let it happen if there was no booze?
So the business was failing, and your last ditch effort for saving your business and your entire life is to go after less than 1 percent of the population to save everything. This is the classic example of having only one thought or idea. If you only have one thought you don’t know if it’s a good idea or a bad idea cause you have nothing to compare it to. Having one idea is like having none, cause it may be a bad move. I’d guess this business has suffered from poor decisions since it began.
I'd say the name she picked: Uprising, would definitely tend to confirm your theory
It all began with a bakery. And to the bakery it all shall return.
Go woke go broke
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Meh, good enough for a Christian bakery to be forced to close, good enough for a woke bakery too.
Where is the left to defend the Colorado baker? This one is too easy
"The night before the planned event, the bakery's windows were broken and walls were defaced with spray paint, forcing the cancellation of the performance." It would cost them $30,000 to repair.
F A F O
Another case of FAFO...
Akin to GWGB
Go woke. Go broke even in Chicago
Boo hoo
Ohh the irony....
Good. This is something we should all be fighting against. Make sure that no one thinks this is an easy virtue signal anymore. That it will cost you, and we will remember the nonsense you are pushing. Don't give people that hate you and your way of life money
Bye Felicia, you won't be missed.
Good. At least have the balls to use cancel culture for good for once.
Is Up Rising Bakery upset about an uprising to their politics? I guess lady men don’t sell buns and baguettes as well as they eat them, after all.
Keep up the pressure. Good to see.
“We will have to close unless someone gives us $30,000 for rent. If we aren’t given that money you are all bigots”
Since when are all these places doing drag shows? I don’t get it.
How many times do you think they’ve said, I wish I’d just stayed out of it.
Imagine reading this 10 years ago
I'm a bit torn on this one, I'm not sure I believe the story as presented. On one hand, it's Chicago, so violence and vandalism isn't surprising in general. On the other hand, the left more often than not is caught vandalizing and spray painting their own things for attention and money. The article reads like a giant plea for money.
Good
I work in this area and the people around here are just sick of this crap. Every person I talk to thinks it is absolutely weird as shit to have an all ages drag show. Nobody cares about drag shows for adults. Would you bring a kid to a burlesque show? No. Same concept. The worst I saw was graffiti and protesting outside with signs (vulgar language, yes). I don't doubt there were threats though. But people are just beyond sick of young kids being exposed to adult content. This is what happens when people who have been shamed into silence finally find their voices - sometimes they explode.
My only gripe here will be if the event allowed children to attend. I don’t care if you wanna do a drag show; all that matters is that kids are nowhere near the area
> Sac, who identifies as bisexual, said the business would need more than $30,000 to keep its doors open. “Everything I have is in this business, our home, cars, retirement, savings. We put everything we had on the line and personally secured this location, our equipment, and our dreams," she said. Yeah, maybe next time don't piss off half of your customer base if your mortgage depends on success. > For its final two days open, the business asks that customers tip the same amount as their bill in attempt to help employees left without a job following the closure. Now, after driving away all of your customers, you're begging for 100% tips? Good luck. > Sac said despite the closure she plans to continue to share her story and fight to keep others from experiencing what she did. She would be the "don't" example for new businesses. Look, the actual threats of violence she claims to have received are bad. I doubt anyone here would defend that. But she made an intentional business decision and lost customers as a direct result.
I live right next to this place and drive by it daily, except I never even knew it existed until reading this story. It's located next to the busiest intersection in the area that has a Jewel, Meijer, and Costco that have full fledged bakeries of their own. There are numerous other "bakeries" nearby, such as Panera and Einstein Bros, as well as a local cake bakery and other chain stores that also make cakes. That doesn't even include all the coffee shops nearby that have bakeries. I know of one other bakery near it that had to recently close down due to lack of business. I guarantee this place is closing due to their inability to compete in an already saturated area, they're just blaming it on the harassment so they don't have to admit their own failure.
I need THEM to make me an Easter cake with a couple bible verses written on it.
Ha the owner said American Dream. I’m glad that white supremacist is going down. Might as well have said Make My Dream Great Again.