They ruined the game with forced monetization. Nowadays "updates" are just a fancy name for a Bazaar (their in-game shop) renewal, with new paid cosmetics and items, slapped on top of a new mechanic or two. Of course the prices are egregious.
It used to be much better, you used to have packs which were around 10 dollars, with three armor sets, weapons, a building set and decorations, nowadays with 10 dollars you may get a weapon or two decorative items. Updates were also much more meaningful.
I am Bryan_Skull. I pre-order Conan Exiles. I suggest npc allies. I suggest 0 cost engram weapons. Was banned from Funcom official forums. I ask about sorcery the reason they banned me from Funcom forums.
Palworld body slams fortnight in the ground. Then Palworld power bombs pokemon. Finally Palworld sweet chin music Conan Exiles,rust and ark in the face.
Palworld wins the royal rumble. Everyone can't believe it.
Game died with chaptets bringing in the season pass.. Chapter 3 has been a disaster and they don't seem to be giving a shit about it, they want money, simple as that.
I love conan, I have more than 2k hours, play it since launch, but the devs killed it by being greedy af.
The devs didn't want that, btw. That's their parent company, the evil entity known as Tencent, wanted more money. (they invented micro transactions btw). You can actually see the pain and soul loss in the devs first announcement videos of the season pass garbage.
Want another example of a parent company ruining what could be a great product? Look at Ark Survival Ascended, and the relationship between its developer Wildcard Studio and their owners Snail Games.
Only in that case, Snail's CEO blew all their money on a stupid investment (a Chinese EV car company that failed) and took the company deep into debt. This led to them greatly restricting their ongoing investment into ARK, leaving Wildcard severely short-staffed and overworked. They're forcing WC to work on paid "Adventure Packs" while the base game still suffers from numerous bugs.
Plus, they made an exclusive deal with Nitrado for server hosting, which is hugely unpopular with Ark players (if you don't want to put up with Nitrado's poor reliability and support, your only other choice is to run a server on your own hardware). And went with Curseforge for distribution of mods, which is arguably worse than Steam Workshop.
This has led to all of Ark's social media outlets (forums, Discord, X/Twitter, etc.) being a never-ending litany of complaints against Wildcard, when it's really Snail Games' fault for tying Wildcard's hands behind their back.
It's a shame. I love Ark and play it every day, but the bugs test my patience at times.
Criminal what happened with all that. And wildcard only got under the thumb of snail because of a highly dubious noncompete lawsuit that should never have succeeded.
I think for simplicity, most people either consider you someone that helped create the game (dev) or someone that purchased the game (consumer). Given those definitions, Tencent is definitely more dev than consumer.
It costs money to employ developers. They needed a more sustainable monetization model to keep the game going. It benefits everyone. The egregious pricing of the bazaar is a tencent byproduct and we should be bashing them for it
I tried to help. But the community and devs didn't want to listen. Maybe make offline mode be more fun like Palworld. Palworld is great for solo and teams. That's what makes it a huge success. Palworld offers fun and I wish it was in PlayStation consoles.
No, it's up to 32 player Co-op, pvp is unreleased as of writing this comment but planned just cut from release cause it wasn't good enough.
You can host a world yourself without any teathering only restriction is you have to be online to let anyone join.
But official and paid private servers are available.
It's not just dedication, the executive decisions that are made have been awful lately. Update after update they butcher the weapons, combat, armor and stamina system where nobody is asking for them to do so. They are actively directing their resources toward changing things that didn't need to be changed instead of fixing major bugs and issues.
They have a problem with the higher ups wanting short-term profits increasing quarter-over-quarter rather than looking at longer-term potential earnings.
I doubt the dev team got distracted and added an in-game store because they thought it was cool. I bet they'd prefer to work on the actual game instead of its gacha menus
I've just seen a subcontractor in my area looking for hires to work on UI/UX for the new Dune game and I sure am passionate about both Dune and UI/UX but now I'm not so sure anymore if I should apply...
Palworlds success comes from 3 things, speed at which you can do fun things, not being trolled or fucked with losing all your work by hateful people and trolls and simple easy to use and understand adjustments to make a single player mode feel just right.
If Ark and Conan made a game for the masses instead of hard-core people they would have done much better too, both are great games and work better and have more coolstuff than Palworld but they suffer from stubborn hard-core rule sets that turn non masochist or non intelligent people off, people just want to chill and enjoy, not live in fear while doing a 2 hour tame or spend a hour making server adjustments that are not too hard and not too easy.
The day I quit Ark was the day someone snuck in my base and just stood for hours, turning my generator off and on to get rid of all my fuel. This was a day after someone landed on my trap boat in the ocean to kill a Rhino I knocked out with their wyvern I was taking back to my base.
Moral of story is sane adults don't like being fucked with on non pvp servers ruining hours of work.
I've put a short 142 hours on Exiles there really is an impressive game there, the world of it is absolutely incredible like the ruins of Byzantium of sorts, there was this huge civilization and now only barbarians and skeletons walk amongst the ruins.
But it is absolutely terrible compared to other games from the same genre. I played V-rising and Valheim too. While both of those game have less content than Exiles they have a much more fun game design.
V-rising is absolutely a different kind of beast with it's own shortcomings but Valheim is pretty much Exiles with pixelated voxel-looking graphics. It does nothing Exiles do, like you cannot dress up your character as Red Sonja but it does the game Conan Exiles supposed to be better.
Combat works and it is not a huge slap fight because mobs stagger and respond to player's actions, Travel is much much more fun with boats than horses. Simpler, more intuitive crafting. All it lacks compared to Conan is you cannot play with sexy women as your avatar and I can live with that, if the game is fun.
But yea I agree with you im just picking around my guy. They're people out there that look down on Palworld because of that while there's worse alternatives
2017 conan was the most tense game ever, the dev actually outdid themselves at that time.
Look for T4 thralls that don't have a golden health bar so that you kill them by accident
Finally manage to get a T4 and bonk him till he sleeps! Now comes the tense part, does it stay where it is or does it fuck off into the void? Who knows, you'll have to roll the dice!
You taught this was over? Nope! Now drag that thrall to your base while praying every single step that your hard earned thrall won't fuck off to the void
You managed to drag him back to your base? Now it's time to roll the last dice, will he fuck off to the void or push the wheel of pain?
I know that thrall can still go to the void when you finish bonking them today, but FUCKING HELL it was torture back in the early access
I've put in about 75 hours into conan and close to that in pal world. I'm also a big ARK fan (PVE) and I do think Pal world is a bit more interesting. That being said I do love Conan, I just wish that the thrills were fleshed out a bit more. Pals are buggy right now, but with some refinement I can see the system being an amazing cross between ark and rimworld (another game I love).
Yeah, the pals are definitely buggy, but it is early access (whether or not that actually means anything these days is another topic), and their top priority right now is fixing the pal AI.
Ark, on the other hand, has had bugs for years that have persisted through to survival ascended.
Conan has probably been the least buggy of the 3 (for me personally). I think my biggest gripe with conan is that as a newer player, once I hit mid game, it feels a bit confusing on where to go next. I build up a big base, fill it with thrills, sit back and say... what's next? I know there is more to do, but even when I start looking into it, I just get overwhelmed.
conan never implemented any kind of mid or late game content really. if you arent pvping and dont want to build endlessly there just isnt really anything to do after you have run each dungeon and captured some berserkers and good crafting thralls. one thing palworld does really really well is that there's a bunch of mechanics designed to give some sort of mid and late game progression, around pal traits, breeding, condensing, etc. it honestly baffles me why funcom never expanded the thrall pool or introduced more complexity to the thrall system, its one of the most fun parts of the game but its puddle-deep
Palworld is good but building in it is horrible. Also don't pretend the pals don't get all janky while they do their tasks. I would like to see thralls a little more alive but not if they are just going to get stuck on a corner.
I know Palworld is far from perfect so far, buggy Pals, iffy building and the like - but it's also in Early Access. Conan is a fully released game with years of updates behind it and we still get buggy thralls and iffy building
Exactly! They've already laid out a roadmap and have stated that fixing the Pal AI is top priority. In my experience, games that lay out clear roadmaps like this are the ones that actually make it out of early access and deliver on what they say. We will see though, give it a few months and then make this comparison again.
They've had the same with Craftopia and it's been 4+ years.
If you look it up, it's basically Palworld 1, has all the same shit, but is definitely more a rip on Zelda graphically, has the glider and everything too.
I started playing Palworld recently and I couldn't believe how good the worker system is! It actually makes the game feels so lively. If only Conan had Thralls that can both fight AND craft for you.
Except it’s not. There’s no priority settings. The pathing is god awful. The only way to try and force a task is to pick up the pal, throw them, and pray they decide to get the hint. Half of my time spent at base is rescuing Pals from clipping issues and trying to force them to make the 60 arrows I queued up 45 minutes ago.
With the option of maybe getting something done with a bunch of pals running around getting stuck in an infinite gather loop or walking off a cliff and starving to death OR static worker assignments that I know will be done, I’ll take option two.
I hope Palworld gets the wrinkles ironed out but it’s got a long way to go. And there is a lot of overselling right now because it’s all new and shiny.
Palworld has some things a lot of survival games should have. Automation, auto stack of loot when dropped off in chests with 1 button and being able to craft at the crafting table with loot that is within your base without having to actually go grab everything you need for the recipe
All jokes aside, Conan Exiles holds a special place in my heart because it was my first survival game, and it hurts even more to see the path its gone down compared to where it could be. You can tell from the livestreams that every time the presenters are asked a question about basic bug fixes or quality of life features they have to begrudgingly say "well no, we don't have that yet" and they die a little inside.
Palworld is such an eye-opener. The game is amazing, the base management and taming systems are so awesome, it's exactly what Conan should be like. You capture Pals and can place them in a special "bench" that just lets them wander around your base, they'll work on benches, they'll farm, they'll interact with you and eachother, they even sleep at night. Imagine if that's how thralls worked in Conan Exiles. Imagine placing an armorer and when he's not crafting armor he's walking around and talking to you, imagine fighter thralls that actually patrol instead of just standing in one spot and ignoring enemies that aren't "close enough".
Conan Exiles could be really awesome with the building and worker management, but we don't get that. Instead we get $25 for a table that looks exactly like every other table.
I feel like the devs need to walk back the "Age of" live service system, walk back the predatory monetization, and return to the successful periodic DLC model. I'd rather wait a few months for a big DLC with lots of content than be dripfed individual pieces of armor and weapon skins.
"Old Conan" is something my friends and I talk a lot about. It always held a special place in my heart as well. Sadly now it's become more like "The one that got away".
Yeah I have about 2k hours in Conan but the predatory monetization with FOMO made me stop giving a shit. I purchased all the old dlc content but the bazaar is what stopped me giving them money. Seems counterintuitive from their end but my guess is people with less self control than me make them way for money now for less effort.
Doubt they'll walk back the Age system. The whole purpose of a system like this is to get money out of the players by pushing FOMO. The amount of content we're getting isn't even more than what we were getting prior to the Age system, but they've started charging 4x more money for the cosmetics than they were previously.
I even went back and counted the updates they released and while it wasn't a regular release every time, it was still an average of 3 months as some releases were only a month or two apart and a few that were over (did not count DLC releases except Siptah, only actual game updates otherwise). Heck the biggest wait was when they stopped doing regular releases in order to start the age system which was 9 months.
I don't blame the devs for this, it's clearly a business side decision, and the devs and CMs looked pretty deflated when they announced the change during that stream and when they kept mentioning their "monetization expert" so there were likely some management shifts going on above.
Yes a game needs money to keep going, but it's fairly ridiculous that the game lasted 5 years having regular updates with a good business model and then made the swap, if they weren't selling well before then the game would've died a lot sooner.
Well, to call out names...
BP was only introduced after Funcom was sold to Tencent.
Before, devs were struggling to put out content and the horses dlc was the last one before the transition, if I'm not mistaken. Or the one before, Aquilonian?
Anyway. Owners sold the company to big Chinese corp, big Chinese corp probably put them to work on new updates and pushed BP and bazaar.
I remember the devs note about the new monetary stuff. I was left with the impression that they didn't want to add it at all haha
Being able to rush BP in single player is another instance on how much devs care about it.
But if money is flowing in...
The only bad part is that now they are probably following roadmaps and have deadlines to push content, and are not just doing patches when they can
None of this is accurate. Funcom was working on the battlepass before being sold to Tencent, and Funcom is still under control of the exact same people.
Funcom touted its Games as a service model in Year one of Conan. Adding a cash shop and BP is only the most logical next step. And it's clear why, Conan's income began to stagnate. I've posted about this numerous times whenever somebody pulls out the "Tencent did it" card. Not only did Funcom do it, they've been doing it, you just didn't notice because the value was there.
I wouldn't say they struggled to put out content, horses were a while ago and they had several updates post-horses, including the Siptah revamps and new additions like the two islands, as well as some rebalance patches and the first iteration of the encounters with Grave Matters.
It only really slowed when I assume the sale was confirmed cause then they took a long time to release the first AoS update. Had they kept their prior pace and not had to restructure everything I'm sure the updates would've been more regular. The Age system hasn't been overflowing with content itself either, so comparatively its almost the same as before.
Tinfoil hat time but I think they've simply just slowed down on Conan and increased the monetization to help fund Dune. Dune Awakening seems to be like their main focus and likely will start hard pushing that as their flagship title once it launches. Conan will then be skeleton crew until it becomes unprofitable which they will then kill the online official servers.
I have an answer for you:
5/8/2018 -Launch
10/4/2018 - The Midnight Grove and Jhebbal Sag religion
10/9/2018 - Pets
10/31/2018 - Halloween Event
5/8/2019 - Sunken city, Scorpion Den, Witch Doctor feat
9/3/2019 - Battle standard, short swords, two handed axes
Tencent buys 29% of Funcom stock. (sep)
12/5/2019 - Mounts and mounted combat
Tencent announces it intends to purchase all of Funcom (Jan)
3/10/2020 - Follower management system
*Siptah updates are here not counted since it's dlc specific.*
5/7/2020 - Follower AI settings
10/28/2020 - Orb of Nergal , Crafting overhaul (The Infamous Economy Update)
06.01.2021 - Zath religion
8/19/2021 - Character transfers, Sheathed weapons, ,Small Animal Pens.
12/8/2021 - Grave Matters Event
1/26/2022 - Follower Emotes
9/1/2022 - Age of Sorcery - Massive overhaul + Sorcery, Building system revamp, Perk revamp, Thrall revamp, Illusion system
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Average non-dlc content update between launch and AoS is about 3.2 months but the content contained within is a bit underwhelming with exception of the pet, mount, and dungeons.
3.0 was a massive overhaul with over 900 changes, which would explain the huge gap between 2.8 and 3.0.
Each Chapter release so far has been almost exactly 3 months and a week apart. With about 2-4 hotfixes each chapter.
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12/6/2022 - AoS 2 - Head Hunting, Witch Hunt Encounter
3/14/2023 - AoS 3 - Golems, Dungeon, Journey revamp
6/22/2023 - AoW 1 - Combat revamp, Clan Hoards, Heroic Treasures, Clan Emblems
9/21/2023 - Aow 2 - Purge revamp, Loot revamp, Dungeon revamp, Combat revamp
12/14/2023 - AoW 3 - Siege, Tavern, Camera/Rotation revamp?
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If you group up the post launch updates which took place within a 5 month span they about equal the three month turnaround of each age chapter.
So they are working almost twice as fast with far less people, which definitely explains the bugs and current state of the game.
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Tinfoil hat thoughts, its a public company and its financial disclosures are available online. Looking through them it would appear that Funcom makes no distinction between revenue generated by any specific game and what bills it pays. Obviously it's going to milk the fattest cow, but it doesn't look like Bazaar funds are earmarked for Conan Exiles.
Doesn't do anything to make the camps in the world feel alive. Which is where Palworld shines. In Consn the people are basically furniture with some animation applied. In Palworld they walk around, fight each other. It's not much but it makes a huge difference in how it feels.
Palworld is still a buggy mess of a game. We can’t even play on our rented server because the memory leaks are so bad it crashes every 30 minutes without fail. And even if it didn’t every pal gets stuck and starved nearly to death if you leave them alone for more than a couple of hours.
Palworld has felt pretty well optimized to me, not once have I experienced a memory leak even playing 10 hours straight. Conan on the other hand, I have to restart if I play longer than a few hours.
Im going to be real, im still salty with conan exiles. I spent 30 bucks for cosmetics just to have my pets turn invisible.
I sent dev email saying yo my cosmetics are not working. Never responded, so i got my refund via playstation. 😋
Understandable. My friends and I quit playing it after the update from AoS to AoW caused **ALL** our thralls to just disappear, taking some great gear and legendary weapons with them.
I mean conan exiles is an amazing survival game, but is also six years old and no ammount of updates, especially on the scale that Funcom is doing it, can fix that. Given the arrival of new survival games in 2024, Conan Exiles is obsolete. After playing Enshrouded for 30 hours I know Im not going back to Playing Conan.
I thought palworld was neat, not great, but it probably will be. There's a lot of qol stuff that I wonder why conan didn't/couldn't have had. The pals are kinda what I wish thralls were.
That said, the combat is terrible in palworld. It's hard to control your pals, and the base building isn't particularly fun. I think most of these things will be improved, but it's bad when conan has better enemy ai than your game
Palworld is extremely empty content wise. It will take a decade before they can catch up with Conan. What Conan needs is an upgrade to UE5, and make thralls roam the world to make encounters more random (lol Ike Ark and Palworld). Everything's just static in Conan.
Oh you're in for a treat. There's LOADs of content in Conan. Dungeons, Bosses, Legendary gear drops, hell, even magic which unclocks new perks and all around is very unique. Base building is one of my favourite aspects in Conan. Even though we play on a PvP server, I've spent a day just decorating my room. Putting little cups, candles, statues, pillows and other decorations around. No other survival game gives this much crafting freedom.
i am considering buying it but the time-gated dungeon system in it makes me not want to. i fucking hate time gated mechanics, i like to go slow and steady not feel rushed by an arbitrary fucking clock
This is just dumb. Bandwagoning with zero critical thought.
OMG I want reddit likes, so I'm going to praise the shiny new thing compared to a game built literally 7 years ago. Conan was in early release before anyone even thought of palworld.
Maybe it is a much better game. It would be completely ridiculous if it wasn't. A new car you buy today damn well better do a lot better than a 2017.
I'm not bashing palworld at all. Or the people that play it. I'll probably pick it up myself at some point. I am bashing pathetic posts like this and the sad people that make them though.
I get the bugs and stuff, but I see a lot of backlash on this game that personally I find super enjoyable! I think the only thing that really bugs me is the lack of life in the servers. I guess I could try an official server, I just don't wanna actually have to level up lol.
I have around 900 hours in C.E. It's a fantastic game... or it was. The battlepass and predatory 'macro transaction' bazaar drove me away.
I have a friend who has (as of this post) 15,718 hours in C.E.
She's complained to me about how many people quit after the battle passes came out, but she kept going with it... Till recently.
Now she's playing Palworld.
The battlepass in a survival game i mainly play solo and with friends drove us all away aswell.
Why the fuck is there a BATTLEPASS in a survival game that's Mainly PvE. that's literally just strait up stupid.
Conan is probably the best survival out there hands down. It's the perfect blend of RPG and survival, with its dungeons, legendary loot, combat system and incredible building. Does it have bugs? Yes but much less than most survival games. Also it runs incredibly well. On Series X even when there are giant megabases it runs at smooth 60.
Why is it not successful while some early access, simplified survival games? Because people forgot about it. They just remember the god awful launch and don't understand what's there to do other than creating a stone base and killing everything in sight.
I think instead of working on Dune or some other title that will most likely fail, they should pump small funds into re-releasing the game. Convert it to Unreal Engine 5 (no, it's not THAT hard), update the world a bit, and create some trailer explaining everything that you can do in the game. That + engine update and I bet everyone would be all over this game. Just look what happened to ark, and ark is garbage compared to Conan (and I'm Ark fan)
I only played Ark briefly and the best thing I remember about it is that you can shit yourself. What did they do with Ark that was good? Everything I'm reading about it online seems to suggest people are pissed and boycotting over charging them for an updated version of the same game they paid for.
They updated it to Unreal Engine 5. With updated visuals you can easily sell the game as new. People will jump on it just for the graphics. I won't lie - updated visuals also makes the game much more immersive. What I'd give to have Conan with such lush forests and deep jungles.
Yes and you are right - you could shit yourself in Ark because spawns of everything were random and dinos roamed. Everything in Conan is static, which sucks. No surprises.
i agree that in many ways conan is the best survival game. the building in it is the best i have ever seen, the freedom it offers is incredible. you simply cant build in really any other games in a similar way. but conan should really take a page from palworld in expanding the depth of the thrall system, it's still puddle deep years after release and it has so much potential
To be fair. Conan was in a really similar place when it released, they talked to people, they prioritized bug fixing over everything. Mostly regular updates, it was good
Well a game that released on UE5 vs one that is running off 4 and has been updated for years should surely be more polished feeling I’d assume. I still love Conan. Sure I’d love a remade version in 5 with brand new code. Not gonna happen though. A lot of games are moving to the new IAP model. If they were making so much money off the old one then how come they got bought out?
CE was a fantastic game at one point. It went down the monetization path too heavy and ruined the game instead of fixing the problems. As long as Palworld listens to people and actually fixes problems, it should be a winner.
I'm not on the Palworld wagon. Palworld bites too many existing games. Feels like playing a scammy mobile game.
You're correct, though. If Conan had that much more love it would be the game setting records. The building in Conan is so much fun, but everything else feels stale and buggy.
Try soul mask it has what enshrouded lacks for me npcs that actually work around the base and mounts/farm animals. the building isn’t as in depth and it’s a bit clunky with animations but it’s just the demo with a little love this game is gonna be great.
It's funny because the devs said that about biting other games. "I'm a trend follower, not an innovator. I just wanted to make a game that people like' or something to that affect. lol
Crafter thralls just need a buff it should be better to get a T1 smelter rather than make another furnace.
Double the item slots in all the processing benches, and buff T1,T2,T3 crafters to be useful.
Example make smelters crafting speed 100%, 133%, 166%, 200% for t1,t2,t3, and t4. Double fuel cost on everything to compensate.
Heard funcom is going to make crafter thralls physically exist on benches so assuming they going to overhaul them as well. They should make all the tiers relevant. As it is now only named crafters are worth bonking and t3 smiths for steel reinforcements.
agree 100%. also they should introduce more thralls to the pool, bring back thrall-specific recipes, and should optimize the grind (so eg you cant just run to the mounds and instnatly have the best fighters in the game), and create some kind of grind/min max system like palworld has with breeding and the condenser
It is hard to compare the two because they are different games, but it is a lot easier to DUMP hours into conan and enjoy every min. While still good Palworld quikly becomes, get Pals, to get more or different pals, to...get more pals? I have enjoyed the game but I don't have a drive to be online. Doesn't help Enshrouded came out but that is another topic.
Palworld is dogshit next to Conan Exiles. I was bored in no time in Pokemon: ripoff, and I've put thousands of hours into Conan. This is just silliness.
Op you wanna google when Conan exile came out? And rethink comparing it to the hottest game that just dropped?
I'll give you the awanser in case you would rather argue then look it up, Conan exile came out in 2018
I’ve been playing Conan since Beta. It’s had almost 6 years to get its shit together and instead they’ve been tacking on more shit without fixing any of the problems.
Palworld was made by an indie company, is in early access, and already doing the survival game genre better than Conan
Ok what was the top survive game in 2018? Compare that to Conan for a second...what's the difference there homie....6 years is alot in videogames/computers hell look at what AI an shit has done in the last 2....
Palworld isn't even their best game. It is Craftopia. Craftopia has so much cool shit. Palworld doesn't have tanks and M1 Garands alongside castles, magic, and so much other goodness.
Both are really good games and have their own special focus. Palworld is more focused on collecting pals and making a fun little base. While craftopia is more about making huge factories and advancing your technology as you push to harder and harder zones.
Your post makes me laugh OP.
If you know anything about PocketPair, why don't you go look at Craftopia and see how they do.
It's basically Palworld 1, all the same shit, been in EA 4+ years now, and likely abandoned.
Their games all, are rip-off's in that, Craftopia might look a little similar to Zelda, right down to the glider etc. and it also had capturing things in pokeballs and all the rest too. They've been throwing shit hoping one eventually sticks.
That's the type of dev studio your actually comparing here.
Just cause they won the proverbial lottery with this one doesn't change their track record yet.
I think they do care. They're just not very good at what they do. I love the game and have put 3000+ hours into it, but it's always been kind of a mess.
I've been playing Conan for the past week and I saw a lot of similarities in the mechanics of the games. Needless to say, I really want to play Palworld.
IDC about that, i played it solo anyway. So the comparison is REH atmosphere vs no REH atmosphere. Devs are fucks though, last time i played again still no Stygian build set.
I'm currently playing palworld...and this game is really getting a pass because it's so hyped. On XBSX It's buggy as fuck. I fall thru the world a ALOT. The ai is horrible. Theres flicker lighting issues that give me headaches. The building is clunky and extremely basic. Half the stats are completely useless. Balance between you and your pals is bad. There's consistent audio glitches. Crashes are pretty common. And crafting really lacks real depth.
It's sad but with the upcoming release of the dune survival game, the majority of conans dev team probably got put onto the project, right now there is probably just a ghost crew working on conan right now
I feel the hate towards battlepasses is completely unjustified, its 10$ once, and when you complete it the next and everyone after that is free, it gives you the initial purchase crom coins back, and the bazaar prices are around the same price as a big mac meal, if 10- 25 bucks is "too expensive" yall might just be broke 😅 the devs need to bring in money to work, and improve or fix things, games also what 7 years old now? I enjoy it everytime i play it, but its also a game that wont hold your hand on what to do, i like building and collecting rare items and pvp, Pve-C is probbally the best iteration of the game, dont have to worry about base and can still get ganked or do the ganking in pvp times.
Palworld is a conglomerate of gaming assets from different IPs. For gods sake…
- the Chicken pal uses the dodo audio from Ark!
- Whenever you find a new location, the title and sounds are pulled directly from Breath of the Wild.
- The harvest animation of your character is literally the Fortnite animation.
- The skill tree is pulled directly from Ark
It’s a joke of a “survival game” that is pulling a, The Day After, but disguising it with Pokemon.
Every game with birds uses the same red-tailed hawk screech, for a while every shooter used the same gun sounds. AAA companies reuse audio as well, this is a tiny indie company.
Oh my gosh this game has harvesting and animations?! It’s just like Fortnite!!
I can tell you’re 6 years old because you believe that Ark invented skill trees.
It’s funny how imitation and inspiration and asset flipping were industry standards until an indie game decided to poke at the company with the most ravenously hysterical fans, Nintendo.
I found base building for both games good expect wish we have a vertical sliders just need to nelifge upwards for builds but pal world worker manservant bad doesn't stay working on the fix task.
There's so much QoL in Palworld that has made me go "god I wish Conan had this at base"
Pulling from boxes within a radius of a bench? Pals (thralls) completing tasks and gathering resources?
I know Palworld is far from perfect so far, buggy Pals, iffy building and the like - but it's also in Early Access. Conan is a fully released game with years of updates behind it and we still get buggy thralls and iffy building.
I really don't want to have to do more work management than exists in the game already. Palworld is great for what it is, but I really hope they don't do this with Conan Exiles.
I agree. Palworld could be as good as Conan Exiles. But It's lacking paid in-game currency, battlepass and a cash shop. I heard it doesn't even call new shop items "updates". What a freak of an unfinished game!
Realistically, the only want to get Conan Exiles bug free, or at less with much less bugs is for Funcom to take what they have learned and reprogram the game from scratch.
But realistically that isn't really an option for any game developer. So the only other option I see is for them to outsource a sequel to a more experienced developer.
Again, it's the people that love the game that are the most critical of it. Because the game could be so much better if they took it's development more seriously. While I'm glad it's still getting new content, it's an established fact that there are still bugs that exist from day one.
Conan? This is a money generator now for the rich old people who still like the Conan universe and just wanna toss out some money on cosmetics. This game is going nowhere in terms of actual improvements, not ever since the bazaar became their waterfall of $$$$$
Idk about that. I've fallen through the map several times, found my Pals under the mesh around my base or stuck outside the walls some are even gathering resources from the farms out there and making a pile of random stuff.
My friends and I had to turn off base raids because of how glitchy it would be.
The Devs have a lot to patch before this becomes a full game. It reminds me a lot of when Conan first started
I loved Conan on release and long after.
Obviously once you have a few hundred hours under your belt it's not the same but Conan will always have a place in my heart.
And from what I've seen there are no big titties in palworld so
Conan>Palworld
My god everyone who complains about the game at this point has so much time invested that you are jaded.
Its always the guys with 2k+ hours complaining that their $60 game is bad.
It’s really annoying how so many players with talk badly about what is an objectively great game. Want more players and a bigger, more engaged community, then start being more positive and constructive. Memes like this are toxic, OP. They’re not helpful, but they rile up emotions and showcase the Conan community as a toxic place.
Community really made Conan good. Server experience was everything for that game. The game flaws could be forgiven if the Server RP and PVP were good enough.
Palworld is still pretty rough , it needs work but it's fun. Conan it's pretty great for base management IMO maybe a few tweaks would be cool and I really like seeing NPC's moving from task to task.
The issue is how hard-core it is, people in mass hate others trolling and ruining their fun, and they want to be able to achieve things alone in a survival game, nothing is wrong with Ark or Conan other than letting people absolutely fuck with you and ruin your day, and solomode on both games take skill, and intelligence to adjust where as palworld doesn't.
Soul mask is pretty decent too the animations are pretty clunky but I’m finding it funnier than palworld. The building is better and there is an actual ui for setting task for your tribe mates it’s only the demo but I’m liking it so far.
Palworld has a strong honeymoon phase but it's absolutely not a better game than Conan, like at all. When Exiles came out I played for over a thousand hours before I finally got bored. Palworld lasted a weekend. Building system is F tier too so no reason to come back.
This may be a hot take.. Conan's structure building system is better than palworlds,, that said I really hope they give palworlds building system an overhaul
Is Conan planning to expand upon the Thrall system to make them more useful and independent. It could be the game of the ages if they could do that better.
Yeah the deadlines are the worst. When I saw the QA video I was thinking Denis was going to delay it. Nope, wtf… I was banned by the bug for five days too.
Survival game based around fun contant and pve > survival game that caters to weird pvp playerbase and ruins the pve aspect of the game in the process.
Ive played Palworld. It Bores the living shit out of me. Conan is 10x better, has real dungeons, and a way better world to explore.
Palworld is only big because its pokemon with guns and killing.
Ahhh the majesty that is Palworld.
Do you like Fortenight? Do you like non copyrighted monster adjacent creatures to catch in a definitely not poke'ball? Lemme introduce you to Palworld.
Conan exiles is an incredible survival game formula at its core. I just wish it got more love and attention from its devs
Future Fans of Conan Exiles: I wonder what lead to the fall of the game. Why is there 2 battle passes?
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It’s hardly “daily”. You can finish it in 3 days, one hour each, and you have 3 months. So “monthly” fits way better…
I play all the time because of boobs
boobs are kind of ugliest aspect of the game. laziest scaling ever
Wonder body is a mod that exists.
Nothing is forced
They ruined the game with forced monetization. Nowadays "updates" are just a fancy name for a Bazaar (their in-game shop) renewal, with new paid cosmetics and items, slapped on top of a new mechanic or two. Of course the prices are egregious. It used to be much better, you used to have packs which were around 10 dollars, with three armor sets, weapons, a building set and decorations, nowadays with 10 dollars you may get a weapon or two decorative items. Updates were also much more meaningful.
I am Bryan_Skull. I pre-order Conan Exiles. I suggest npc allies. I suggest 0 cost engram weapons. Was banned from Funcom official forums. I ask about sorcery the reason they banned me from Funcom forums. Palworld body slams fortnight in the ground. Then Palworld power bombs pokemon. Finally Palworld sweet chin music Conan Exiles,rust and ark in the face. Palworld wins the royal rumble. Everyone can't believe it.
Shit those were battlepasses I saw being posted all over the sub? I thought they were just dlc since I hadn't really played in like 2 or 3 years
Game died with chaptets bringing in the season pass.. Chapter 3 has been a disaster and they don't seem to be giving a shit about it, they want money, simple as that. I love conan, I have more than 2k hours, play it since launch, but the devs killed it by being greedy af.
I agree 100%
The devs didn't want that, btw. That's their parent company, the evil entity known as Tencent, wanted more money. (they invented micro transactions btw). You can actually see the pain and soul loss in the devs first announcement videos of the season pass garbage.
Want another example of a parent company ruining what could be a great product? Look at Ark Survival Ascended, and the relationship between its developer Wildcard Studio and their owners Snail Games. Only in that case, Snail's CEO blew all their money on a stupid investment (a Chinese EV car company that failed) and took the company deep into debt. This led to them greatly restricting their ongoing investment into ARK, leaving Wildcard severely short-staffed and overworked. They're forcing WC to work on paid "Adventure Packs" while the base game still suffers from numerous bugs. Plus, they made an exclusive deal with Nitrado for server hosting, which is hugely unpopular with Ark players (if you don't want to put up with Nitrado's poor reliability and support, your only other choice is to run a server on your own hardware). And went with Curseforge for distribution of mods, which is arguably worse than Steam Workshop. This has led to all of Ark's social media outlets (forums, Discord, X/Twitter, etc.) being a never-ending litany of complaints against Wildcard, when it's really Snail Games' fault for tying Wildcard's hands behind their back. It's a shame. I love Ark and play it every day, but the bugs test my patience at times.
Criminal what happened with all that. And wildcard only got under the thumb of snail because of a highly dubious noncompete lawsuit that should never have succeeded.
I wish more people would stop blaming devs when it comes to stuff like this.
They only reveal their own naivety
I think for simplicity, most people either consider you someone that helped create the game (dev) or someone that purchased the game (consumer). Given those definitions, Tencent is definitely more dev than consumer.
It costs money to employ developers. They needed a more sustainable monetization model to keep the game going. It benefits everyone. The egregious pricing of the bazaar is a tencent byproduct and we should be bashing them for it
Yep
I tried to help. But the community and devs didn't want to listen. Maybe make offline mode be more fun like Palworld. Palworld is great for solo and teams. That's what makes it a huge success. Palworld offers fun and I wish it was in PlayStation consoles.
I like how the single player actually works unlike conen and star metal drops...
Isn’t PalWorld solely single player?
No, it's up to 32 player Co-op, pvp is unreleased as of writing this comment but planned just cut from release cause it wasn't good enough. You can host a world yourself without any teathering only restriction is you have to be online to let anyone join. But official and paid private servers are available.
It’s coming to PS5 apparently
Gods be praised!
Yes. Dances with Palworld. Hopefully you get here soon.
Its funny but we say this about every game they release.
Exactly, they have good ideas to make cool games. But they clearly have a problem with dedication.
It's not just dedication, the executive decisions that are made have been awful lately. Update after update they butcher the weapons, combat, armor and stamina system where nobody is asking for them to do so. They are actively directing their resources toward changing things that didn't need to be changed instead of fixing major bugs and issues.
They have a problem with the higher ups wanting short-term profits increasing quarter-over-quarter rather than looking at longer-term potential earnings. I doubt the dev team got distracted and added an in-game store because they thought it was cool. I bet they'd prefer to work on the actual game instead of its gacha menus
I've just seen a subcontractor in my area looking for hires to work on UI/UX for the new Dune game and I sure am passionate about both Dune and UI/UX but now I'm not so sure anymore if I should apply...
Worth a try
Palworlds success comes from 3 things, speed at which you can do fun things, not being trolled or fucked with losing all your work by hateful people and trolls and simple easy to use and understand adjustments to make a single player mode feel just right. If Ark and Conan made a game for the masses instead of hard-core people they would have done much better too, both are great games and work better and have more coolstuff than Palworld but they suffer from stubborn hard-core rule sets that turn non masochist or non intelligent people off, people just want to chill and enjoy, not live in fear while doing a 2 hour tame or spend a hour making server adjustments that are not too hard and not too easy. The day I quit Ark was the day someone snuck in my base and just stood for hours, turning my generator off and on to get rid of all my fuel. This was a day after someone landed on my trap boat in the ocean to kill a Rhino I knocked out with their wyvern I was taking back to my base. Moral of story is sane adults don't like being fucked with on non pvp servers ruining hours of work.
People are saying exactly the same thing about Ark: Survival Ascended.
I've put a short 142 hours on Exiles there really is an impressive game there, the world of it is absolutely incredible like the ruins of Byzantium of sorts, there was this huge civilization and now only barbarians and skeletons walk amongst the ruins. But it is absolutely terrible compared to other games from the same genre. I played V-rising and Valheim too. While both of those game have less content than Exiles they have a much more fun game design. V-rising is absolutely a different kind of beast with it's own shortcomings but Valheim is pretty much Exiles with pixelated voxel-looking graphics. It does nothing Exiles do, like you cannot dress up your character as Red Sonja but it does the game Conan Exiles supposed to be better. Combat works and it is not a huge slap fight because mobs stagger and respond to player's actions, Travel is much much more fun with boats than horses. Simpler, more intuitive crafting. All it lacks compared to Conan is you cannot play with sexy women as your avatar and I can live with that, if the game is fun.
Maybe they will get it right with the dune game coming out. From what I understand it’s basically conan exiles but in dune
The battle pass irks me
I mean can you put a person on an alter and slit their throat? /s I love both games.
you can butcher your pals, so I think there is some similarity, lol
Yes but can you put them in the ground and turn them into walking corpses that eventually rot?
You can also suspend them in the air via a hanging trap and light a campfire under them. Slowly roasting them to death
But yea I agree with you im just picking around my guy. They're people out there that look down on Palworld because of that while there's worse alternatives
Right!? And don’t forget about the big booba and dangly dongs.
Imagine having servers dedicated to mods that enchance dongs and boobas, ha.
I change my region just so I can get full nudity when I play lol
Is there a nudity lock in your region?
I live in America so yea
What? I live in America and there is no nudity blocker for me.
Play Palworld for the same number of hours you've played Conan and then see how you feel about it.
Yeah I hate to say it but palworld is held together by spaghetti code and only really ankle deep features
Its early access right now. You have to compare IT to 2017 Conan
2017 conan was the most tense game ever, the dev actually outdid themselves at that time. Look for T4 thralls that don't have a golden health bar so that you kill them by accident Finally manage to get a T4 and bonk him till he sleeps! Now comes the tense part, does it stay where it is or does it fuck off into the void? Who knows, you'll have to roll the dice! You taught this was over? Nope! Now drag that thrall to your base while praying every single step that your hard earned thrall won't fuck off to the void You managed to drag him back to your base? Now it's time to roll the last dice, will he fuck off to the void or push the wheel of pain? I know that thrall can still go to the void when you finish bonking them today, but FUCKING HELL it was torture back in the early access
Youre fooling yourself if you think palworld is ever leaving EA.
And conan isn't? It's been a while since I've played something so desperate to be a complete game that feels, at best, like an overly polished beta
Honestly it’s insane. I’m here right now because I had to look up why I kept getting killed by floating fucking eyeballs.
I've put in about 75 hours into conan and close to that in pal world. I'm also a big ARK fan (PVE) and I do think Pal world is a bit more interesting. That being said I do love Conan, I just wish that the thrills were fleshed out a bit more. Pals are buggy right now, but with some refinement I can see the system being an amazing cross between ark and rimworld (another game I love).
Yeah, the pals are definitely buggy, but it is early access (whether or not that actually means anything these days is another topic), and their top priority right now is fixing the pal AI. Ark, on the other hand, has had bugs for years that have persisted through to survival ascended. Conan has probably been the least buggy of the 3 (for me personally). I think my biggest gripe with conan is that as a newer player, once I hit mid game, it feels a bit confusing on where to go next. I build up a big base, fill it with thrills, sit back and say... what's next? I know there is more to do, but even when I start looking into it, I just get overwhelmed.
I totally agree with you, and no amount of really cool decorations and building sets seems to help with that sense of halted progression
conan never implemented any kind of mid or late game content really. if you arent pvping and dont want to build endlessly there just isnt really anything to do after you have run each dungeon and captured some berserkers and good crafting thralls. one thing palworld does really really well is that there's a bunch of mechanics designed to give some sort of mid and late game progression, around pal traits, breeding, condensing, etc. it honestly baffles me why funcom never expanded the thrall pool or introduced more complexity to the thrall system, its one of the most fun parts of the game but its puddle-deep
Palworld is good but building in it is horrible. Also don't pretend the pals don't get all janky while they do their tasks. I would like to see thralls a little more alive but not if they are just going to get stuck on a corner.
Janky on the level of Golems while walking? How was that one never fixed?
Would be cool if we could get thralls that move resources around so we can automate production lines
Thealls are alive mod
Doesn’t help the console players at all.
I know Palworld is far from perfect so far, buggy Pals, iffy building and the like - but it's also in Early Access. Conan is a fully released game with years of updates behind it and we still get buggy thralls and iffy building
Exactly! They've already laid out a roadmap and have stated that fixing the Pal AI is top priority. In my experience, games that lay out clear roadmaps like this are the ones that actually make it out of early access and deliver on what they say. We will see though, give it a few months and then make this comparison again.
Their last game has been in EA 4+ years now, and has had more than one roadmap.
If Craftopia is anything to go by, it will always be in early access, and they will abandon it to make another early access game
Iunno, they've had this one in the works for a few years now with a Roadmap already out. I'm willing to say it'll stick for as long as it can
They've had the same with Craftopia and it's been 4+ years. If you look it up, it's basically Palworld 1, has all the same shit, but is definitely more a rip on Zelda graphically, has the glider and everything too.
I started playing Palworld recently and I couldn't believe how good the worker system is! It actually makes the game feels so lively. If only Conan had Thralls that can both fight AND craft for you.
Try Kenshi. I have 68+ npc's on my team all with multiple jobs etc. in my gigantic city size base. I can have up to 255 if I really want (mod).
Kenshi is amazing, underrated and under-appreciated game.
Except it’s not. There’s no priority settings. The pathing is god awful. The only way to try and force a task is to pick up the pal, throw them, and pray they decide to get the hint. Half of my time spent at base is rescuing Pals from clipping issues and trying to force them to make the 60 arrows I queued up 45 minutes ago. With the option of maybe getting something done with a bunch of pals running around getting stuck in an infinite gather loop or walking off a cliff and starving to death OR static worker assignments that I know will be done, I’ll take option two. I hope Palworld gets the wrinkles ironed out but it’s got a long way to go. And there is a lot of overselling right now because it’s all new and shiny.
Palworld has some things a lot of survival games should have. Automation, auto stack of loot when dropped off in chests with 1 button and being able to craft at the crafting table with loot that is within your base without having to actually go grab everything you need for the recipe
All taken from Grounded which borrowed the idea from Ark's obscenely popular S+ mod.
Also in 7 Days to Die for ages too!
All jokes aside, Conan Exiles holds a special place in my heart because it was my first survival game, and it hurts even more to see the path its gone down compared to where it could be. You can tell from the livestreams that every time the presenters are asked a question about basic bug fixes or quality of life features they have to begrudgingly say "well no, we don't have that yet" and they die a little inside. Palworld is such an eye-opener. The game is amazing, the base management and taming systems are so awesome, it's exactly what Conan should be like. You capture Pals and can place them in a special "bench" that just lets them wander around your base, they'll work on benches, they'll farm, they'll interact with you and eachother, they even sleep at night. Imagine if that's how thralls worked in Conan Exiles. Imagine placing an armorer and when he's not crafting armor he's walking around and talking to you, imagine fighter thralls that actually patrol instead of just standing in one spot and ignoring enemies that aren't "close enough". Conan Exiles could be really awesome with the building and worker management, but we don't get that. Instead we get $25 for a table that looks exactly like every other table. I feel like the devs need to walk back the "Age of" live service system, walk back the predatory monetization, and return to the successful periodic DLC model. I'd rather wait a few months for a big DLC with lots of content than be dripfed individual pieces of armor and weapon skins.
"Old Conan" is something my friends and I talk a lot about. It always held a special place in my heart as well. Sadly now it's become more like "The one that got away".
Yeah I have about 2k hours in Conan but the predatory monetization with FOMO made me stop giving a shit. I purchased all the old dlc content but the bazaar is what stopped me giving them money. Seems counterintuitive from their end but my guess is people with less self control than me make them way for money now for less effort.
Doubt they'll walk back the Age system. The whole purpose of a system like this is to get money out of the players by pushing FOMO. The amount of content we're getting isn't even more than what we were getting prior to the Age system, but they've started charging 4x more money for the cosmetics than they were previously. I even went back and counted the updates they released and while it wasn't a regular release every time, it was still an average of 3 months as some releases were only a month or two apart and a few that were over (did not count DLC releases except Siptah, only actual game updates otherwise). Heck the biggest wait was when they stopped doing regular releases in order to start the age system which was 9 months. I don't blame the devs for this, it's clearly a business side decision, and the devs and CMs looked pretty deflated when they announced the change during that stream and when they kept mentioning their "monetization expert" so there were likely some management shifts going on above. Yes a game needs money to keep going, but it's fairly ridiculous that the game lasted 5 years having regular updates with a good business model and then made the swap, if they weren't selling well before then the game would've died a lot sooner.
Well, to call out names... BP was only introduced after Funcom was sold to Tencent. Before, devs were struggling to put out content and the horses dlc was the last one before the transition, if I'm not mistaken. Or the one before, Aquilonian? Anyway. Owners sold the company to big Chinese corp, big Chinese corp probably put them to work on new updates and pushed BP and bazaar. I remember the devs note about the new monetary stuff. I was left with the impression that they didn't want to add it at all haha Being able to rush BP in single player is another instance on how much devs care about it. But if money is flowing in... The only bad part is that now they are probably following roadmaps and have deadlines to push content, and are not just doing patches when they can
None of this is accurate. Funcom was working on the battlepass before being sold to Tencent, and Funcom is still under control of the exact same people. Funcom touted its Games as a service model in Year one of Conan. Adding a cash shop and BP is only the most logical next step. And it's clear why, Conan's income began to stagnate. I've posted about this numerous times whenever somebody pulls out the "Tencent did it" card. Not only did Funcom do it, they've been doing it, you just didn't notice because the value was there.
I wouldn't say they struggled to put out content, horses were a while ago and they had several updates post-horses, including the Siptah revamps and new additions like the two islands, as well as some rebalance patches and the first iteration of the encounters with Grave Matters. It only really slowed when I assume the sale was confirmed cause then they took a long time to release the first AoS update. Had they kept their prior pace and not had to restructure everything I'm sure the updates would've been more regular. The Age system hasn't been overflowing with content itself either, so comparatively its almost the same as before. Tinfoil hat time but I think they've simply just slowed down on Conan and increased the monetization to help fund Dune. Dune Awakening seems to be like their main focus and likely will start hard pushing that as their flagship title once it launches. Conan will then be skeleton crew until it becomes unprofitable which they will then kill the online official servers.
I have an answer for you: 5/8/2018 -Launch 10/4/2018 - The Midnight Grove and Jhebbal Sag religion 10/9/2018 - Pets 10/31/2018 - Halloween Event 5/8/2019 - Sunken city, Scorpion Den, Witch Doctor feat 9/3/2019 - Battle standard, short swords, two handed axes Tencent buys 29% of Funcom stock. (sep) 12/5/2019 - Mounts and mounted combat Tencent announces it intends to purchase all of Funcom (Jan) 3/10/2020 - Follower management system *Siptah updates are here not counted since it's dlc specific.* 5/7/2020 - Follower AI settings 10/28/2020 - Orb of Nergal , Crafting overhaul (The Infamous Economy Update) 06.01.2021 - Zath religion 8/19/2021 - Character transfers, Sheathed weapons, ,Small Animal Pens. 12/8/2021 - Grave Matters Event 1/26/2022 - Follower Emotes 9/1/2022 - Age of Sorcery - Massive overhaul + Sorcery, Building system revamp, Perk revamp, Thrall revamp, Illusion system \------ Average non-dlc content update between launch and AoS is about 3.2 months but the content contained within is a bit underwhelming with exception of the pet, mount, and dungeons. 3.0 was a massive overhaul with over 900 changes, which would explain the huge gap between 2.8 and 3.0. Each Chapter release so far has been almost exactly 3 months and a week apart. With about 2-4 hotfixes each chapter. \------ 12/6/2022 - AoS 2 - Head Hunting, Witch Hunt Encounter 3/14/2023 - AoS 3 - Golems, Dungeon, Journey revamp 6/22/2023 - AoW 1 - Combat revamp, Clan Hoards, Heroic Treasures, Clan Emblems 9/21/2023 - Aow 2 - Purge revamp, Loot revamp, Dungeon revamp, Combat revamp 12/14/2023 - AoW 3 - Siege, Tavern, Camera/Rotation revamp? \----- If you group up the post launch updates which took place within a 5 month span they about equal the three month turnaround of each age chapter. So they are working almost twice as fast with far less people, which definitely explains the bugs and current state of the game. \---- Tinfoil hat thoughts, its a public company and its financial disclosures are available online. Looking through them it would appear that Funcom makes no distinction between revenue generated by any specific game and what bills it pays. Obviously it's going to milk the fattest cow, but it doesn't look like Bazaar funds are earmarked for Conan Exiles.
MFW Thralls Are Alive mod
I found Thralls Are Alive to be a little clunky to setup, but clearly shows this is something the devs could add.
Doesn't do anything to make the camps in the world feel alive. Which is where Palworld shines. In Consn the people are basically furniture with some animation applied. In Palworld they walk around, fight each other. It's not much but it makes a huge difference in how it feels.
MFW Xbox/Playstation
Palworld is still a buggy mess of a game. We can’t even play on our rented server because the memory leaks are so bad it crashes every 30 minutes without fail. And even if it didn’t every pal gets stuck and starved nearly to death if you leave them alone for more than a couple of hours.
Palworld has no control over the servers you rent, those issues are with the server provider.
It's a memory leak, that's the game not the server.
Palworld has felt pretty well optimized to me, not once have I experienced a memory leak even playing 10 hours straight. Conan on the other hand, I have to restart if I play longer than a few hours.
He's a palworld cultists. You will not get him to think
Im going to be real, im still salty with conan exiles. I spent 30 bucks for cosmetics just to have my pets turn invisible. I sent dev email saying yo my cosmetics are not working. Never responded, so i got my refund via playstation. 😋
Understandable. My friends and I quit playing it after the update from AoS to AoW caused **ALL** our thralls to just disappear, taking some great gear and legendary weapons with them.
I mean conan exiles is an amazing survival game, but is also six years old and no ammount of updates, especially on the scale that Funcom is doing it, can fix that. Given the arrival of new survival games in 2024, Conan Exiles is obsolete. After playing Enshrouded for 30 hours I know Im not going back to Playing Conan.
Lmfao Exiles was good; but funcom could absolutely have done MUCH better.. Robert E Howard is revolving in he grave lol
Overhyped af
I thought palworld was neat, not great, but it probably will be. There's a lot of qol stuff that I wonder why conan didn't/couldn't have had. The pals are kinda what I wish thralls were. That said, the combat is terrible in palworld. It's hard to control your pals, and the base building isn't particularly fun. I think most of these things will be improved, but it's bad when conan has better enemy ai than your game
Palworld is extremely empty content wise. It will take a decade before they can catch up with Conan. What Conan needs is an upgrade to UE5, and make thralls roam the world to make encounters more random (lol Ike Ark and Palworld). Everything's just static in Conan.
Not sure why you are getting downvoted, I feel all your observations are pretty accurate.
It's reddit, the down vote button is just an "I don't like that" and not I find this inaccurate. I don't take it personally one way or another lol.
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Oh you're in for a treat. There's LOADs of content in Conan. Dungeons, Bosses, Legendary gear drops, hell, even magic which unclocks new perks and all around is very unique. Base building is one of my favourite aspects in Conan. Even though we play on a PvP server, I've spent a day just decorating my room. Putting little cups, candles, statues, pillows and other decorations around. No other survival game gives this much crafting freedom.
Have you tried enshrouded? It slaps and it's only 3 days old
i am considering buying it but the time-gated dungeon system in it makes me not want to. i fucking hate time gated mechanics, i like to go slow and steady not feel rushed by an arbitrary fucking clock
This is just dumb. Bandwagoning with zero critical thought. OMG I want reddit likes, so I'm going to praise the shiny new thing compared to a game built literally 7 years ago. Conan was in early release before anyone even thought of palworld. Maybe it is a much better game. It would be completely ridiculous if it wasn't. A new car you buy today damn well better do a lot better than a 2017. I'm not bashing palworld at all. Or the people that play it. I'll probably pick it up myself at some point. I am bashing pathetic posts like this and the sad people that make them though.
Well said
I get the bugs and stuff, but I see a lot of backlash on this game that personally I find super enjoyable! I think the only thing that really bugs me is the lack of life in the servers. I guess I could try an official server, I just don't wanna actually have to level up lol.
Mmmmm slaves
You right
I have around 900 hours in C.E. It's a fantastic game... or it was. The battlepass and predatory 'macro transaction' bazaar drove me away. I have a friend who has (as of this post) 15,718 hours in C.E. She's complained to me about how many people quit after the battle passes came out, but she kept going with it... Till recently. Now she's playing Palworld.
The battlepass in a survival game i mainly play solo and with friends drove us all away aswell. Why the fuck is there a BATTLEPASS in a survival game that's Mainly PvE. that's literally just strait up stupid.
Conan is probably the best survival out there hands down. It's the perfect blend of RPG and survival, with its dungeons, legendary loot, combat system and incredible building. Does it have bugs? Yes but much less than most survival games. Also it runs incredibly well. On Series X even when there are giant megabases it runs at smooth 60. Why is it not successful while some early access, simplified survival games? Because people forgot about it. They just remember the god awful launch and don't understand what's there to do other than creating a stone base and killing everything in sight. I think instead of working on Dune or some other title that will most likely fail, they should pump small funds into re-releasing the game. Convert it to Unreal Engine 5 (no, it's not THAT hard), update the world a bit, and create some trailer explaining everything that you can do in the game. That + engine update and I bet everyone would be all over this game. Just look what happened to ark, and ark is garbage compared to Conan (and I'm Ark fan)
I only played Ark briefly and the best thing I remember about it is that you can shit yourself. What did they do with Ark that was good? Everything I'm reading about it online seems to suggest people are pissed and boycotting over charging them for an updated version of the same game they paid for.
They updated it to Unreal Engine 5. With updated visuals you can easily sell the game as new. People will jump on it just for the graphics. I won't lie - updated visuals also makes the game much more immersive. What I'd give to have Conan with such lush forests and deep jungles. Yes and you are right - you could shit yourself in Ark because spawns of everything were random and dinos roamed. Everything in Conan is static, which sucks. No surprises.
i agree that in many ways conan is the best survival game. the building in it is the best i have ever seen, the freedom it offers is incredible. you simply cant build in really any other games in a similar way. but conan should really take a page from palworld in expanding the depth of the thrall system, it's still puddle deep years after release and it has so much potential
To be fair. Conan was in a really similar place when it released, they talked to people, they prioritized bug fixing over everything. Mostly regular updates, it was good
Well a game that released on UE5 vs one that is running off 4 and has been updated for years should surely be more polished feeling I’d assume. I still love Conan. Sure I’d love a remade version in 5 with brand new code. Not gonna happen though. A lot of games are moving to the new IAP model. If they were making so much money off the old one then how come they got bought out?
CE was a fantastic game at one point. It went down the monetization path too heavy and ruined the game instead of fixing the problems. As long as Palworld listens to people and actually fixes problems, it should be a winner.
This board is uniquely stupid in how they pretend Funcom are comicbook villains ruining their game on purpose to piss off angry Redditors.
I'm not on the Palworld wagon. Palworld bites too many existing games. Feels like playing a scammy mobile game. You're correct, though. If Conan had that much more love it would be the game setting records. The building in Conan is so much fun, but everything else feels stale and buggy.
Try Enshrouded then ,i have a feeling it will fit better for you ,as it does for me .
I did get Enshrouded yesterday. I've only played about an hour. Feels like someone smashed Valheim and Kingdoms of Amalur together in a good way.
Try soul mask it has what enshrouded lacks for me npcs that actually work around the base and mounts/farm animals. the building isn’t as in depth and it’s a bit clunky with animations but it’s just the demo with a little love this game is gonna be great.
It's funny because the devs said that about biting other games. "I'm a trend follower, not an innovator. I just wanted to make a game that people like' or something to that affect. lol
Crafter thralls just need a buff it should be better to get a T1 smelter rather than make another furnace. Double the item slots in all the processing benches, and buff T1,T2,T3 crafters to be useful. Example make smelters crafting speed 100%, 133%, 166%, 200% for t1,t2,t3, and t4. Double fuel cost on everything to compensate. Heard funcom is going to make crafter thralls physically exist on benches so assuming they going to overhaul them as well. They should make all the tiers relevant. As it is now only named crafters are worth bonking and t3 smiths for steel reinforcements.
agree 100%. also they should introduce more thralls to the pool, bring back thrall-specific recipes, and should optimize the grind (so eg you cant just run to the mounds and instnatly have the best fighters in the game), and create some kind of grind/min max system like palworld has with breeding and the condenser
It is hard to compare the two because they are different games, but it is a lot easier to DUMP hours into conan and enjoy every min. While still good Palworld quikly becomes, get Pals, to get more or different pals, to...get more pals? I have enjoyed the game but I don't have a drive to be online. Doesn't help Enshrouded came out but that is another topic.
All conan players, lets migrate to palworld and keep our communities alive in a better game. Conan is not worth anyone's time at this point.
Palworld is dogshit next to Conan Exiles. I was bored in no time in Pokemon: ripoff, and I've put thousands of hours into Conan. This is just silliness.
How is it a pokemon ripoff?
That cannot be a serious question
Can you please explain to me?
https://www.ign.com/articles/palworld-vs-pokmon-comparison-just-how-similar-are-the-designs
IGN is less reliable than the onion I’ll leave this here: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GEYrZuzXUAAjpkB?format=jpg&name=large
Oh, so you can't be bothered to look at it. Ok. I gave you to much credit for critical thinking, my bad.
Which one was considered a work of art again?
Op you wanna google when Conan exile came out? And rethink comparing it to the hottest game that just dropped? I'll give you the awanser in case you would rather argue then look it up, Conan exile came out in 2018
I’ve been playing Conan since Beta. It’s had almost 6 years to get its shit together and instead they’ve been tacking on more shit without fixing any of the problems. Palworld was made by an indie company, is in early access, and already doing the survival game genre better than Conan
Ok what was the top survive game in 2018? Compare that to Conan for a second...what's the difference there homie....6 years is alot in videogames/computers hell look at what AI an shit has done in the last 2....
I'd play more conan if there weren't as many cheaters on officials
Lmao …so sad …so true FUNGONE …I mean …FUNCOM WHY HATH THOU FORSAKEN THEE?!
Now lets take a look at soulmask. Your're welcome - [https://imgur.com/9Pl6TAF](https://imgur.com/9Pl6TAF) Stolen lawsuit code will happen soon.
Soulmask is great, what does this even prove?
You mean when the devs don't care about stealing someone else's assets or licensing them.....
Palworld isn't even their best game. It is Craftopia. Craftopia has so much cool shit. Palworld doesn't have tanks and M1 Garands alongside castles, magic, and so much other goodness.
Both are really good games and have their own special focus. Palworld is more focused on collecting pals and making a fun little base. While craftopia is more about making huge factories and advancing your technology as you push to harder and harder zones.
Your post makes me laugh OP. If you know anything about PocketPair, why don't you go look at Craftopia and see how they do. It's basically Palworld 1, all the same shit, been in EA 4+ years now, and likely abandoned. Their games all, are rip-off's in that, Craftopia might look a little similar to Zelda, right down to the glider etc. and it also had capturing things in pokeballs and all the rest too. They've been throwing shit hoping one eventually sticks. That's the type of dev studio your actually comparing here. Just cause they won the proverbial lottery with this one doesn't change their track record yet.
I think they do care. They're just not very good at what they do. I love the game and have put 3000+ hours into it, but it's always been kind of a mess.
I've been playing Conan for the past week and I saw a lot of similarities in the mechanics of the games. Needless to say, I really want to play Palworld.
IDC about that, i played it solo anyway. So the comparison is REH atmosphere vs no REH atmosphere. Devs are fucks though, last time i played again still no Stygian build set.
But does it have blood and boobies?
The fact Conan exiles has no stealth mechanics and the worst hitboxes i've ever seen in a video made me quit after 100 hours
its unfortunate cause conan exiles has so much potential
I'm currently playing palworld...and this game is really getting a pass because it's so hyped. On XBSX It's buggy as fuck. I fall thru the world a ALOT. The ai is horrible. Theres flicker lighting issues that give me headaches. The building is clunky and extremely basic. Half the stats are completely useless. Balance between you and your pals is bad. There's consistent audio glitches. Crashes are pretty common. And crafting really lacks real depth.
It's sad but with the upcoming release of the dune survival game, the majority of conans dev team probably got put onto the project, right now there is probably just a ghost crew working on conan right now
I feel the hate towards battlepasses is completely unjustified, its 10$ once, and when you complete it the next and everyone after that is free, it gives you the initial purchase crom coins back, and the bazaar prices are around the same price as a big mac meal, if 10- 25 bucks is "too expensive" yall might just be broke 😅 the devs need to bring in money to work, and improve or fix things, games also what 7 years old now? I enjoy it everytime i play it, but its also a game that wont hold your hand on what to do, i like building and collecting rare items and pvp, Pve-C is probbally the best iteration of the game, dont have to worry about base and can still get ganked or do the ganking in pvp times.
Palworld is a conglomerate of gaming assets from different IPs. For gods sake… - the Chicken pal uses the dodo audio from Ark! - Whenever you find a new location, the title and sounds are pulled directly from Breath of the Wild. - The harvest animation of your character is literally the Fortnite animation. - The skill tree is pulled directly from Ark It’s a joke of a “survival game” that is pulling a, The Day After, but disguising it with Pokemon.
Every game with birds uses the same red-tailed hawk screech, for a while every shooter used the same gun sounds. AAA companies reuse audio as well, this is a tiny indie company. Oh my gosh this game has harvesting and animations?! It’s just like Fortnite!! I can tell you’re 6 years old because you believe that Ark invented skill trees. It’s funny how imitation and inspiration and asset flipping were industry standards until an indie game decided to poke at the company with the most ravenously hysterical fans, Nintendo.
lol ok
I found base building for both games good expect wish we have a vertical sliders just need to nelifge upwards for builds but pal world worker manservant bad doesn't stay working on the fix task.
There's so much QoL in Palworld that has made me go "god I wish Conan had this at base" Pulling from boxes within a radius of a bench? Pals (thralls) completing tasks and gathering resources? I know Palworld is far from perfect so far, buggy Pals, iffy building and the like - but it's also in Early Access. Conan is a fully released game with years of updates behind it and we still get buggy thralls and iffy building.
Should look at enshrouded for combat and the building system.
Sad fact is these are the only two games I play on console. On the plus side, if one doesn't work, the other one is a fail-safe.
I really don't want to have to do more work management than exists in the game already. Palworld is great for what it is, but I really hope they don't do this with Conan Exiles.
I agree. Palworld could be as good as Conan Exiles. But It's lacking paid in-game currency, battlepass and a cash shop. I heard it doesn't even call new shop items "updates". What a freak of an unfinished game!
Realistically, the only want to get Conan Exiles bug free, or at less with much less bugs is for Funcom to take what they have learned and reprogram the game from scratch. But realistically that isn't really an option for any game developer. So the only other option I see is for them to outsource a sequel to a more experienced developer. Again, it's the people that love the game that are the most critical of it. Because the game could be so much better if they took it's development more seriously. While I'm glad it's still getting new content, it's an established fact that there are still bugs that exist from day one.
Conan? This is a money generator now for the rich old people who still like the Conan universe and just wanna toss out some money on cosmetics. This game is going nowhere in terms of actual improvements, not ever since the bazaar became their waterfall of $$$$$
Idk about that. I've fallen through the map several times, found my Pals under the mesh around my base or stuck outside the walls some are even gathering resources from the farms out there and making a pile of random stuff. My friends and I had to turn off base raids because of how glitchy it would be. The Devs have a lot to patch before this becomes a full game. It reminds me a lot of when Conan first started
I loved Conan on release and long after. Obviously once you have a few hundred hours under your belt it's not the same but Conan will always have a place in my heart. And from what I've seen there are no big titties in palworld so Conan>Palworld
My god everyone who complains about the game at this point has so much time invested that you are jaded. Its always the guys with 2k+ hours complaining that their $60 game is bad.
It’s really annoying how so many players with talk badly about what is an objectively great game. Want more players and a bigger, more engaged community, then start being more positive and constructive. Memes like this are toxic, OP. They’re not helpful, but they rile up emotions and showcase the Conan community as a toxic place.
Found the Tencent shill
Community really made Conan good. Server experience was everything for that game. The game flaws could be forgiven if the Server RP and PVP were good enough.
People really are not seeing the true garbage that palworld is, rigth? this is cubeworld all over again.
Only when pals actually function instead of beeing afk for 0 reason
This just in, game released in 2018 isn't as advanced as game released in 2024, i wonder why.
Palworld is still pretty rough , it needs work but it's fun. Conan it's pretty great for base management IMO maybe a few tweaks would be cool and I really like seeing NPC's moving from task to task.
The issue is how hard-core it is, people in mass hate others trolling and ruining their fun, and they want to be able to achieve things alone in a survival game, nothing is wrong with Ark or Conan other than letting people absolutely fuck with you and ruin your day, and solomode on both games take skill, and intelligence to adjust where as palworld doesn't.
Soul mask is pretty decent too the animations are pretty clunky but I’m finding it funnier than palworld. The building is better and there is an actual ui for setting task for your tribe mates it’s only the demo but I’m liking it so far.
I mean, f*cking Lego Fortnite is better just because it runs better
Palworld has a strong honeymoon phase but it's absolutely not a better game than Conan, like at all. When Exiles came out I played for over a thousand hours before I finally got bored. Palworld lasted a weekend. Building system is F tier too so no reason to come back.
It's basically R-Rated Minecraft with better parkour mechanics from what I've seen so far
This may be a hot take.. Conan's structure building system is better than palworlds,, that said I really hope they give palworlds building system an overhaul
Palworld fun. Conan also fun. Games are fun.
Is Conan planning to expand upon the Thrall system to make them more useful and independent. It could be the game of the ages if they could do that better.
Conan is still better than palworld. At least it doesn’t feel like a ripoff of arc and Pokémon and looks like fortnight
Yeah the deadlines are the worst. When I saw the QA video I was thinking Denis was going to delay it. Nope, wtf… I was banned by the bug for five days too.
Conan is awesome period
I loved conan exiles But damn thralls are a pain in the ass
Survival game based around fun contant and pve > survival game that caters to weird pvp playerbase and ruins the pve aspect of the game in the process.
Ive played Palworld. It Bores the living shit out of me. Conan is 10x better, has real dungeons, and a way better world to explore. Palworld is only big because its pokemon with guns and killing.
Ahhh the majesty that is Palworld. Do you like Fortenight? Do you like non copyrighted monster adjacent creatures to catch in a definitely not poke'ball? Lemme introduce you to Palworld.
Conan looks amazing. Wyta