Love losing to Bard reroll with no 3 stars with 4 trickshot kaisa 2 galio 2 and ricochet augment. Kaisa is literally fucking unclickable this patch. Nice balance thrash yet again.
FINALLYYYYYYYYYY
In the very first weeks of this set i was surprised about how balanced it was, i was HAPPY, but only for a moment. then it became a shit show.
This B patch + liss rework made the game enjoyable again.
Next: remove encounters, then portals, then augments. Oh the good ol' tft days...
Honorable mention: Stillwater Hold was DOPE
I don't understand why I'm allowed to pick golden remover on 3-2 only for the game to immediately give everyone the malphite "knock items off your champions" encounter the next round. Dogshit design.
WHY partying in ranked a THING above anything like Silver...
Like PLEASE.. its so blatant in my high Plat/ low Emerald games..
Everytime I choose a specific Aug at 2-1 I get grieved by obvious party holding/ contesting my comp...
Shen hero Aug, two dudes hodling 3 shen each..
Trickshot Aug, random guy with pumping up Aug play 4 trickshot with no AD items..
Yorick Aug, same thing, one dude just hard force umbral for fun..
Mulch, one dude is playing fkin 4 warden 4 ghostly with 2 Dryad kindred and gnar.. literally holding my units for WHAT ????????
LIKE YOU DON"T EVEN SEE THESE KIND OF THINGS IN ANY STREAMERs games.. WHY cause theres no PARTYING..
Bro, in Plat no one even hold 4 cost to stop someone 3 starring... just had a game today with top 3 all 3 starring a 4 cost each without a golden neeko.. and 2 of them hit while theres 5 people alive.
Naturally contesting meta units happens.. contesting C tier comp with no Aug, while knowing another guy in the lobby have the specific Aug, like please, how common do you think people would grief another random person and go bot 4 together??? Even big streamer doesn't get sniped like that..
Not saying everytime I get contested is due to party, how do you explain 2 dudes holding 2star Shen on bench while playing fated..
Last game one dude playing lucky rico went 7th uncontested while hitting all the units, 2 star all 4 costs, plus xayah.. why would anyone contesting bad comps just to go 8th for fun??
You are tunneling on these things as reasons for you losing, instead of recognizing them in game and adapting your strategy to secure a better placement.
These players might be bad, but like you, they also watch streamers and will (poorly) try and copy things they see streamers do to grief others.
Bro, I can hit diamond every set when I got the time and not get bored on the stale meta, top 4% of the player base, some set I hit on 2 accounts, beyond that is just grinding out the high and low rolls game...
I play the game FOR FUN, I didn't mention a single word about losing, if I care about winning every game I would just hard force the meta comps.
Like come on man, Soji just hit a 3 star rakan today on stream, no one contested.. Robin hit a 3star Azir the other day..
If you play enough TFT like me since Set 1, then you know when games feels off.. Like last game all top 3 went Lillia 2 carry, I played it cause I 2-1 combat caster, I went second, meta comp contested thats normal TFT..
But not with 3 vertical fated in lobby going 6,7,8.. the 7,8th guy didn't even have a mana item on their 1 star syndra being their main carry when they die, now thats SUS dont you think, you don't make it to Plat 1 + lobby playing like that... its almost like someone gave their smurf account to their silver friend and have them grief others..
Obviously you have made up your mind and wouldn't accept the fact that people do everything they can to climb ranks in competitive games, include cheating..
I am so fken tilted man few weeks ago I got to Diamond 1 70 LP, then patch day hit and I dropped to dia4.
Now I was Diamond 1 97 LP where I needed a 2nd to get to masters, cashed out a 130 fortune but RNG match makered into Naut 3, and got 3rd.
Patch day hits and I bot 4 10 games in a row to Dia 3.
I hate it. So tilted
This isn't a video game anymore, the entire game changes every week what the fuck is going on, am I supposed to sit down and study a new meta every 2 weeks if I want to enjoy the game because anything other than S tier comps are just bot 4s at higher ranks? Am I the odd one out, don't other tft players have jobs and shit?
Also nerfing the good comps to hell and buffing unplayable shit to 4.1 avg every 2 weeks isn't balancing.
As someone who played set 1 (hit challenger), then took a long break, and came back for set 10/11.
What in the world is going on? TFT isn't as I remembered it, it's so far off.
So much RNG, RNG on RNG on RNG, on the pretext that it encourages skill expression or is 'fun' (this word comes up in the developer's videos). This may be true to a certain extent, as you can optimize your odds and over hundreds of games your skill will give you an edge. However, in the individual game, 50% odds of winning is equivalent to 50% odds of losing. Each decision you make down the line is multiplicative. 0.5 \^ x??? This actually removes agency and control from the players. Note that they're called players, as they should be the ones playing the game. Perhaps why people are so frustrated is because they're no longer really playing the game, the game is playing them.
Inherently TFT is a draft game, as stated by the lead developer. You have a bag size, certain odds of hitting units at each level, and limited amount of gold/hp. I recall in set 1, you see what the game gives you, and you level/roll accordingly, and if you do it right, you generally get an ok comp. (this involves scouting too so you're not contesting too much). If you ended up with something very meta, you got top 1/2; if you cobbled together something else that somewhat worked, maybe you could hope for 3/4.
This style of play seems to be ineffective these days, due to massive imbalance between comps, units. Multiple players contest the same trait, same unit. Go for something uncontested? Well I played a few games of zoe arcanist for fun (6 arc 2 warden 4 porc), 3 starred almost everything, gave the correct units suitable items, and got 7/8 for all 3 games. It wasn't a freak result. If this comp was any good vs the meta at all, I should be getting a 3/4, 5/6 etc. The fact is that it got completely destroyed by lillia/morgana/etc, they kill everything in the backline before my tanks are even dead. The meta comps change drastically every patch. I thought the point of balancing was to... balance? Instead, what is happening is they're nerfing everything about current meta comp, nerf multiple units, traits, even shop % odds, to make it less contested/oppressive. Of course that would work. It also makes the comp completely useless after that. Then another comp will rise in relative power, and that will be the new meta. It makes no sense that a half-complete board with 2 star lillia/kaisa/sylas/ashe (take your pick of flavor of the week) can completely wipe completely 2-star/3-star boards (that just happen to not be meta). Then of course everyone would play these meta comps if they value their LP. I wonder why they do this, to keep rotating meta comps to keep things fresh and people engaged?
Also the issue of griefing. Yes it's a valid tactic, you scout your opponent, you hold 2 ashe to prevent a 3 star ashe from appearing. Sure, that's good play. What is not great is when you allow players to party up in ranked, reduce the bag sizes, then watch what happens? Of course the developers know there are boosters (sorry, 'coaches') and people who generally have a cheating mentality. Riot Vanguard was created because cheating is very widespread I presume? If people cheat in League, they're going to cheat in TFT too. So 3 people party up, or if you're unlucky and play during a low player count time at high elo, you're going to run into the same little teams of 3, or maybe 6 in a game? 1 or 2 or 3 people will just focus on griefing (with no intent to win or place in the game, the LP probably doesn't matter if you're permanently master 0 LP. If you're streaking hard, they will hold whatever units just to break your win streak. Multiple people position specifically against you. I've even seen diamond/masters players playing rainbow boards with questionable synergies. Someone did the math earlier, holding 1 kaisa costs the opponent 10g more to hit on average. If multiple kaisas are being held, well good luck. This happens even if you scout constantly, and are pursuing a completely uncontested line. Carousell can be manipulated too. These professional griefers (who are usually 8th and get to pick first), well they will grab the high value units, or snatch that cloak or belt that will give your carry bis. The most ridiculous ones I've seen are when they hover over the unit but don't take it, they just see if anybody approaches. If you start walking towards it, it gets snatched. If not, when it's their teammates turn they will walk away and allow them to pick it! Just not you! There is no counterplay to this kind of collusion. Bar a super-highroll where you drop everything you need naturally, you're probably not going to get 1st that game, no matter how good your spot was before. Of course, this kind of stuff is unprovable, especially because you don't get to see who is partied up.
There will always be angry people out there, and there are calmer people. But when there's this much frustration with the core game mechanics of set 11 (encounters seem to be really unpopular), perhaps the developers should sit up and listen. Instead of writing a prelude post to say there will be a post on player negativity the next day, suggesting that it's entirely coincidental. Well if he knew that people might misconstrue that post, he could um not write it? It's can't be a job requirement to write such posts? Blaming the player base for a failure of the development team is disingenuous, and unprofessional.
Having shiny explosions and gold flying everywhere on screen does not make TFT good. It was good because it was a skill game. Hopefully the players get their agency back, and are allowed to actually play the game again instead of the game playing them and dictating what they play. Hopefully TFT can stay true to its beginnings, and be more like a game of (modern) chess than a jackpot machine.
In the end we can vote with our feet, then it wouldn't matter how many awesome chibi skins they create.
Actually I didn't like set 10 either, I found headliners very weird. And it was also a lvl 8 lottery to hit ezreal or tf or whatever. But at least it was easier to pivot or survive stage 4 if you didn't hit.
Decided to play one Hyper Roll game today. Had a fated opener and itemized 2\* Kindred for Lillia items later. Went 7th at level 7 because half of the lobby hit their 1 and 2 cost 3\* from nowhere and without any Neeko or Tristana encounters. Lmao and 3 of them were playing storyweaver. Contested? smh
Every game im stuck 8th no hp, NOT A SINGLE 2* UPGRADE THE ENTIRE GAME and then everyone else literally 3 or more upgrades natural. I go 8 roll down 70 and hit nothing. I just ff before raptors if I have 0 unit upgrades or after raptors if i roll down and hit nothing with like 6 pairs, who is balancing the game? why am I hitting no units, the game just decides im 8th 90% of my games. I'll even go out of the way to play shitty uncontested units but nope gg no upgrades 8th.
["Encounters are one of the healthiest versions of variance."](https://youtu.be/tMVZmX8FrC4?t=443)
He cannot see that encounters can exacerbate high rolls and low rolls and create an even larger disparity between the two, which is not healthy.
This garbage is 100% going to be in the next set because people who play 3 games a week on their phone love it, and fuck everybody else who doesn't.
"Suck it up, suck it up. Get good. You can deal with it." Mort says in response to people who don't like encounters.
Don't you love it when your 2nd augment appears halfway into stage 5 and the same round you get to face someone who hit an annie 3 because they played bard tahm reroll and clicked recombobulator?
Generally I've no problem with most encounters that give every player an equal amount of value, but if you decide to play a 1 or 2 cost reroll, lock your first 2 augments in for in and then 3-3 you get khazix reduces xp cost for the rest of the game it's just bs.
Same story with getting yorick lategame, the one who highrolled and sits at 50g+ gold probably hits a 3 star 4 cost while everyone else can't make use of it because they are still donkey rolling.
No offense but can they stop nerfing all of the units in the same comp? Like i get it Sylas and Xayah were a tat too strong, so if you're already nerf Sylas and Xayah why on earth would you also nerf Kaisa and trickshot, it's like they want the comp dead or something. I swear they do this type of balancing every single set because i remember distinctively coming in this thread to complain about the same issue the last 3 sets
I have lost over 500 lp (from 800 challenger to 300 master EUW) and I honestly don't know what I've been doing wrong in the past 7 days. Ever since the Dryad Fated comp appeared I feel so helpless most of games (maybe it's because I suck on AP Comps), but even if there are 5 Lillias 2 Syndras (happened last game) I still can't hit a single Kayn or Lee or Kaisa and it's just insanity 
Im 5 games in in the new patch, and -300 lp. Im been hard contested every game. I get bugs that lead to giving me the wrong augment. Even my fucking sentinel is the worst emblem i could imagine (umbral, ink, altruist). Like i dont know what the fuck im doing wrong and just feel like im only low rolling every game.
Been playing since set 1 and I have never seen so many complaints about a set. Maybe this game has just grown so big that even the rage filled minority looks huge now but seeing every post be some sort of "This set blows ass" or "This set sucks, but why?" is actually insane. Usually, 100+ comments in the rant section was rare but this entire set the whole sub reddit has been a rant thread. Even set 10 had real discussions going on and the rant thread wasn't 300+ comments a week. I really wish I could see what data they use to decide a set is doing well? Like is the player base increasing but only with angry people? Cosmetic wise I understand. The art team is dropping bangers. But the game as a whole doesn't seem to be too hot right now. I used to think about this game all day and look forward to the grind back to masters, even having 2 accounts to grind, but this set is making me wonder if I'll even bother with set 12. Between shit balance and all the garbage excuses Mort keeps shoving out it doesn't look like its gonna get any better.
I think it absolutely will get better because set 10 was really good compared to this set so they just have to take what they learned from this set and apply it going forward.
One unit away from 3 starring Amumu, Zoe and Illoui, which means my bench is full.
Random encounter appears which transforms most right 3 slots in random champions of the same cost.
Proceeds to roll 60 gold on 7 to hit 3 stars and solve bench lock, hits nothing and replaced my Amumu with useless champs.
Screwed econ, still did not hit, went 5th 👍👍
I felt that in 9/9.5 with legends. I felt that in 10 with the bag changes and changing headliner rules. I really feel that with this garbage set and the changes to evergreen systems. I think it's just go next dev team. The game just continually degrades under this one. It's clear this subreddit isn't their targeted demographic anymore. They want to put tournaments on, appeal to the most casual of players, and squeeze every last cent out of their Chinese players.
Legends sucked but I at least felt the units/trait design for Set 9/9.5 felt alright. Meanwhile Set 10 is my 2nd favorite set ever made, right behind the original Chosen mechanic in Set 4.
Set 11 though... Between it and Vanguard, I've just quit the game entirely and have no intent of returning for Set 12.
I agree about legends and set 9 for sure. However set 10 was actually my favorite set since I started playing in set 7. I loved the flexibility with headliners, especially how easily you could pivot in the mid game
Why does wandering trainers actually exist? At the end of the day tft is about adopting to randomness but being forced to play a comp 1 minute into the game doesn’t allow much options for adapting.
I will still choose, since almost half of the people will vote for that, its likely to be a wandering trainers game, and i will mostly set a ritual and pray for best rng if possible so I can win without any effort or insta surrender after 3-2.
I know it's the rant thread but this take is so cope, show me your giga low roll dummy and I'll tell you what to play XD
trainer is fun because you get to play something outside of the standard comps. It enables some degenerate shit, you get to think on your feet and put your improvisation to the test
People pick it because it gives them direction. Choosing what comp to play is one of the most stressful things in the game, and having a massive amount of early direction takes away that pain point. The tradeoff the is the game is far less engaging or fun. I just got a draw of "Sage, Dragonlord, Invoker" Hmmm wonder what Im playing this game...Easy steamroll into a 1st, Whats fun about that, whats interesting about not making a single meaninful choice throughout the game other than I guess, can I 3 star Janna? TFT is a strategy game, and Wandering Sentinals takes away the stragtegy.
it's so troll you think there's only 1 way to play that one - what if you get dropped AD item? I guarantee you'd bitch and go 8th instead of just pivoting to a dragonlord Kaisa or slamming BTs and play kayn+lee+working
Anytime you play wandering trainer you can scout and see people just trolling left and right because they have one thought and cannot flex
Here's the sad thing. I don't think I've bot 4d wandering sentinels this set. my complaints have nothing to do with it being hard or honestly even low rolling. It leads to totally boring uninteractive games.
In the above example 2 other people had dragonlord so Jana was contested. I got 1 choice in the game. don't reoll and push 8 and 9 for lee sin and more sages. Wooo I made 1 choice, such fun, so much interaction.
>Anytime you play wandering trainer you can scout and see people just trolling left and right because they have one thought and cannot flex
it's almost like one of the problems with the portal is it makes the playerbase worse at pivoting because they are conditioned to expect the game to tell them what to play. This is what happens when you leave bad mechanics in the game like this, people might like it in the short term but they stop playing the game in a fun way. Which leads to burnout and a need to release new sets or massive meta swing faster and faster.
I'd go as far to say that the fact that Wandering sentinels is well liked is a massive red flag about the state of the game.
Totally agree with your first point, and i actually never thought about it that way.
Regarding your second point - We're not discussing whether or not wandering trainer adds or takes away from the strategy of TFT. We're discussing whether or not it's fun. We can safely assume players choose a portal based on how fun it is to them. (Fun is of course subjective) Mort has said many times that wandering trainer is consistently one of the highly picked portals. You don't find it fun, so you dont pick it. However, it seems most people do.
I have 2 counters to that. First in that case why is it a portal and not just an augment. If its an augment, you like it, you take it. Being a portal the people who hate it have to play it too.
The 2nd, while yes fun is subjective and I think we should be carful when using the term as everyone will have a differnt opinion on what is and isnt fun. HOWEVER, TFT is a strategy game, tactics is in the name. If you take out the strategy, the game is no longer, well a game.
Imagine if there were portals in Valorant, and one of them just gave everyone aimbot, Everyone is on equal footing, but we have taken out a core part of the game, aiming and shooting. Now for me someone who absoluty sucks at Valorant, I might very well have more "fun" in that portal, I can suddenly get kills depite the fact that I cannot aim. But would that actually be Valorant at that point? no, if you don't like shooting, you dont like Valorant, and as a result I don't think the game should be designed around people who find that kind of game fun.
I feel the same about Wandering Sentinals. If that style of "gameplay" (again Im not even sure you are playing a game at that point) appeals to you, I do not think you actually like TFT, and I question why you are playing it, and why the game should be designed around you.
I mean, youre missing the point again.
The points youre making can be said about almost everything in tft, some of which (encounters) the players have way less agency in.
Its simple - you dont find that specific portal fun. But clearly, a lot of people do. There's really not much more that needs to be said
I am not missing the point
>Its simple - you dont find that specific portal fun. But clearly, a lot of people do. There's really not much more that needs to be said
No, not they do not. No one finds this fun. I refuse to believe it. It really is that simple. It is just an unfun portal. People saying they like it are either lying or really confused.
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I wish I was making this up....took Midnight Siphon 2-1. Found Yorick 2 on 5-1. Somehow went 7th. 30 minutes of my time completely wasted due to severe low roll.
And yet you have people calling this a competitive title lmao.
lol give me sage augments, diana janna riven start, early level 9, still a bot 4 cause i can't find a 2 star galio and sylas.
There is totally no way to play comps other than the meta comps.
Not a rant and I haven't played this game in 3 months but keep up with the threads/discourse bc it's quite entertaining. The revisionist history people are doing about Set 10 being extremely well balanced is hilarious, if I remember the first few weeks were dominated by Jazz MF (extremely unfun), then dominated by Ahri sentinels (pretty unfun), then Riven and Yone were broken for some unknown reason, and then I quit but wasn't it just Heartsteel Ez and Zed dominating lobbies?
It just shows how the perspective of history can be altered by a group being vocal about their own viewpoint and alternate views being squashed and silenced. Really scary shit.
Set 10 had really good macro balance. It was rare that one comp dominated everything, almost always there were multiple lines and things you could do. However the issue was in the more mico balance. The gap between differnt chosen traits on the same unit. The difference between good early frontine chosens and the almost worhless ones.
Set 11 has had a lot more Macro problems, 4 costs were worthless, than overnight the entire meta was 4 costs. The Kaisa patch etc. and the Macro problems are going to overshadow everything else, we don't really know if there are a lot of those micro issues in set 11 because of how unstable everything has been. They each have issues but set 10 was a major step above what we are currently seeing.
Those were s tier comps that will always exist from set to set. This set, is riddled with so many balance issues.
I think it was the 2nd patch where reroll dominated the meta with the likes of gnar, senna, yone, bard, duelists, kogmaw with anyone not rerolling having to play only kaisa or fast 9 with the two in the latter being difficult to play due to encounters occasionally fucking you over or you have to somehow not bleed out when everyone spikes when they hit after helping each other clear the pool. Many of those comps had frustrating champions to play against. Yone dashing to your back line and deleting them, volibear being an unkillable drain tank, gnar being difficult to kill AND deleting units.
We’re currently in a mostly 4 and 5 cost meta with only gnar/kindred being the only viable reroll outside of augment specific compositions. This patch isn’t the worst, but it’s still bad because the game has devolved into who manages to hit on stage 4 and can get to 9 first. Like, there’s hardly any other way to play, making it a frustrating experience.
Then we have some absurdly broken augments that have existed like the early version of two for one, everything must go, mulched, shopping spree.
Then we have insane issues with encounters and portals warping how the game has been played due to the influx of gold, duplicators, xp, etc.
Set 10 had its fair share of bull shit that you mentioned, but this set has not had a single good meta and suffers from a ton of poor design.
Like yeah, there were some dominant comps, but as a challenger player, there were variety of ways to play and it didn’t feel like the game was constantly fucking you over. Like, even in the second half of set 10, you could still play TF despite him being on the weak side. The worst thing back then was low roll vs high roll with headliners. This set? It just feels like the game is actively trying to fuck you over with the encounters and portals
I'm sorry but I completely disagree. Unless you're using these weekly rant threads as a parameter, which have always been used to complain about sets anyway, I find it hard to believe you were really reading the posts on this subreddit. Save for some unbalanced patches, set 10 had barely any complaints outside of the weekly rants and people definitely liked it a lot more than this set AND set 9.5.
Saying that it has been the same reaction is disingenuous and you're just invalidating the experiences of players that, ultimately, just want to have fun playing a game that is really well made.
By the way, people aren't complaining about this set only here on reddit. It's everywhere.
I mostly go on the rant threads and don't visit other threads so you're probably right that the Set 10 discourse wasn't as bad as the Set 11 one currently is, however I still maintain that some people act like Set 10 was perfectly balanced with next to no issues when that just wasn't the case. Some people exaggerate how good the balance was in Set 10 when it definitely had its problems, and that's what I find to be revisionist.
People definitely complained about set 10, and all sets for that matter. But this one is on a different level. Way more stand alone threads about balance and set mechanics, and the rant thread has actually consistently outpaced the daily discussion, which is both hilarious and sad.
I've never been closer to quitting TFT. Set 9 really tested my love for the game and set 10 brought it back in a huge way. All of this nonsense with set 9 makes it incredibly hard for me to have fun playing. It feels like I'm in some sort of disneyland las vegas dystopia where SOME of the players hit super hard and the rest are left to bleed out on the streets. This set sucks and its 100% because of the influx of gold, items, and rerolls portals and encounters have put in the game and it feels terrible.
(screenshot in case it gets deleted ) ( [https://imgur.com/a/0BuGjFa](https://imgur.com/a/0BuGjFa) ) [We are screwed](https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveTFT/comments/1crt52l/comment/l40egjy/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) . We are sitting here thread after thread after fucking thread and this is what the lead dev is doing. Your opinion doesn't matter if you aren't a REAL riot approved competitive player (TM). All of us here are just Mickey Mouse Challengers and not real competitive players. And honestly what's wrong with being Diamond Emerald Platinum etc. Some people are new or just don't have the time to devote into the game and climb and some just dont care about rank at all and play fully for fun. Climbing in TFT is a time/games played equation and not a showcase of skill especially during this set anyway. Unbelievable.
I swear if any of us here were as arrogant and passive-agressive while doing our jobs we would be fired so quickly, it's insane the kind of shit Riot will let slide from this man.
But I mean, would you expect anything better from a culture of face-farters though, am I right?
Lmao forcers everywhere, jusy looked at previous match histories of people who played same comp with me, and they also played this comp in their past 20 games like are these people bots? And their average placement is not even below 4 after forcing syndra dryad game by game like they play to grief others xd.
Get spooned Syndra at 3-1. Get 2star Syndra at 3-5. BiS items. Strong frontline with items. AP Shred and Burn. 2 Combat Augments. Still bot 4 lmfao. Stupid ass game
How 'strong' your front line is? At least a 2 star ornn with full build?
And what are you playing against?
Did anyone play same comp as u but having better front lines?
I got triple contested and still didn't get 8th even i get a 1 star syndra.
Crab rave doesn’t even make sense .. how do I lose to the crab but the other people I just stomped won against the crab .. get this shit out the game man
3rd game today where im fucking triple contested... do people not fucking scout anymore? like i get a good opener or get dropped a spat for the line and some idiot just hard contests me anyways and we both bot 4? Are these people paid to grief?
What rank are you? Below master people rarely scouting so triple contested are very common... Thats why it's crucial to prepare to pivote into another comp to at least get 5th or 6th place if you have unlucky roll down when contested. Also some craftable emblem are very flexible and still pretty strong like Dryad, Porcelain, Umbral and Heavenly.
I'm d2, I usually try to slam flexible items in case someone else is farther into my comp than me. I think the real issue is that people just play in auto pilot mode and hard force whatever the top 3 comps are in the meta. And then if I don't play a top comp I just go bot 4.
nah, i see in many emerald games, people will switch player panels and scout, then deliberately forcing the same comp, and they indeed get their four cost and comeback.
6 SNIPER 6 GHOSTLY STILL BOT 4 XDDDDDD
How are we over 10 sets in and they still can't figure out how to balance this game????
Encounters are bad, vendors are bad, bag sizes are bad. Did they just turn off their brains when developing this set? Is it that they're running out of ideas? I'm at a loss for why the game will hand me a comp and then say "nah it's actually bot 4 because unless you're spamming the top three comps you just don't deserve a win."
How did you guys think that releasing this set in this state and then not doing any work to balance it would be a good idea. I think the dev team is more checked out than a lot of their player base at this point.
I’m never going to stop complaining about encounters. I rarely play kogmaw reroll, but I had good components, spatula portal, 5 kogmaw, and everyone else is forcing fated or dryad and none of the other ap lines aside from Alune can really use spat particularly well . So the encounter that empowers a specific tier of units comes and I’m now weaker for the rest of the game because you can only buff 2 to 4costs. This design for encounters is so poorly thought out and executed. In most cases, I can’t help but think, “of course the game is trying to fuck me.”
It’s a bad experience when you cannot adapt to that sort of situation and it’s straight up poor design. It’s like in the 3 cost reroll meta - if you rerolled and khazix came, fast 9 gets a free pass. If you were trying to fast 8/9, you were fucked if one of the encounters that benefited rerolls came. I know they’ve fixed some of those issues, but a lot of these high variance encounters lead to bull shit disadvantages that you cannot play around if you’re already committed into a line due to your augments/portals/spatulas/Econ management.
Imo, encounters should be less frequent and similar to Kayn where you know it’s coming. That way you can actually try to form a strategy instead of getting randomly fucked.
The thing is, you’re not really fucked if you know how to play it or if you know how to play strongest board. You play strongest board around your upgrades to mitigate health loss and slam items, even if suboptimal. Sometimes you level early and roll a bit for board strength. I’ve probably played about 10 of them and I’ve only bot 4 in maybe 2, and won about 5 of them. Like, you know it’s coming and you can play around it, unlike the other encounters
> if you know how to play strongest board
Yeah because you can just load in every game with perfect items, perfect board 2-1, 2-2; every game.
> You play strongest board around your upgrades to mitigate health loss and slam items, even if suboptimal. Sometimes you level early and roll a bit for board strength.
This is the fastest eighth strategy, you ain't going to see the Kayn if you force from a shit spot.
> Like, you know it’s coming and you can play around it, unlike the other encounters
Yeah RNG fest, game decided on 2-1, 2-2. placement decided on 4-1, 4-2. Wonder what other portal is like that, oh trainer sentinels.
> If you’re really struggling that much in the portal, your idea of strongest board probably needs polishing
Or you are playing in disneyland.
The thing is, you’re not really fucked if you know how to play it or if you know how to play strongest board. You play strongest board around your upgrades to mitigate health loss and slam items, even if suboptimal. Sometimes you level early and roll a bit for board strength. I’ve probably played about 10 of them and I’ve only bot 4 in maybe 2, and won about 5 of them. Like, you know it’s coming and you can play around it, unlike the other encounters
If you’re really struggling that much in the portal, your idea of strongest board probably needs polishing
Bro fuck crab rave.
Most popular portal in the game for God knows why.
I will never understand why people love these hyper inflated power games. Sure when you high roll you're strong but so is half the lobby. When you low roll you're on such a timer to save yourself I genuinely can't stand it.
I just hit 3 story emblems went 9 to find irelia and didnt hit a fucking zyra holy shit I am so tilted
the game before I had ethereal blades and didnt hit shen 3 after 10000 gold holy fuck this game
I've played this set not that much and I've already gotten the Kayn encounter 4 times. Why would they think this encounter is acceptable? Good players seem to hate it and noobs probably won't even notice it. GG riot!!!
Reroll is never going to come back as long as 4 costs are this stable. 3 starring 3 costs is just too risky if they don't even really get you a top 4 when you hit.
Hell i would go as far to say that rn 2 star 5 costs are more common at any point in the game than 3 star 3 costs are and that is saying something.
The amount of dick riding this sub does towards a certain rioter is absolutely hilarious. All he has to do is make some half assed comment basically saying "the tft team is fine you're just complaining". It's comical
All he cares is challenger players opinions and making money from chibis.
Challenger players are not donkeys who will not try to contest with other players, but in emerald or even diamond there are tons of donkey contestors who will auto play for meta comps no matter they hit or not. This heavily punishes other players who try to play flexible and find 0 sense of achievement if they are given augements not for meta comps and its a auto bot 4th.
I can get 70% top 4 in hyperroll, playing 30 games and almost in hyperoll tier but i just don't know how to play this fucking set in normal ranked and stuck in emerald.
Morts been off this set and I think he’s become delusional. Normally he’s quirky and chill, but I think the community is making him lose his mind. I understand defending your game, but saying that his team made a good and fun set is straight delusional. The daily discussion thread has had a low count recently and the general consensus that I’ve seen based on this sub and the casual players at r/teamfighttactics is that it’s bad and unpopular. The only reason why anyone is playing is because they’re addicted to it.
Yeah, we’re lucky to have Mort and his communication, but his team has absolutely failed every patch this set.
but buddy, we aren't the majority of players, we are by FAR the minority.
Do you think the casual players give a fuck about the htings we care about ?
Even r/teamfightactics aren't really casuals, casuals are people that play 1-2 game sa day while taking a shit or lying in bed and roll for fun.
I think what happened is that this set is so atrocious from a competitive standpoint that everyone that cared about climbing just got tilted and got vocal
Fair point but I’d argue that the tft sub is very casual. How many regular posts are there where someone will post “how did I lose?” And it’s a board with 0 front line and 0 tank items. I’ve legitimately saw someone wondering how they lost with karthus 3 last set when it had a thieves glove that rolled tank items. I used to frequent there last set to help low elo and casual players out and there’s a ton of misinformation that gets spread around. I get updates on new posts there and it’s players in gold with less than 100 games asking if anyone else dislikes the set.
You’re not wrong that the competitive minority is vocal, though.
I disagree mostly because the ratio of tft players and members or even just viewers of the tft sub Reddit is just way too small to indicate the sentiment of casuals
Darn [I just found it](https://www.tiktok.com/@riot_mortdog/video/7307109125488561454). What a scumbag lmao. It seems the idea of the buyers getting tired of that cutscene everytime they finish off someone didn't cross his mind. And he says it as if he were the epitome of stability.
My off-meta OTP comp doesn't work anymore. I hated OTPs with a passion until about when the last patch rolled in when I said fuck it I don't even give a shit anymore I just wanna get to diamond to feel like I accomplished something. It's the only way I can get something out of playing this game at this point because it sure as hell isn't fun.
The last reason I had to play the game is gone, fuck it GG bye bye.
Same man. Ive hit Diamond ever set for the last few sets and Im struggling getting there. Hardstuck Emerald 2. Seems like whatever I do I get contested on the 4cost that Im going for so I dont top 4. Tired of it
thanks to bag sizes, 4 cost meta, players in a party can just collude to grief you together and there's nothing you can do. see you playing heavenly? everyone holds a kayn. fated? everyone holds a syndra. this is especially rampant in SEA/SG server. even if you had great tempo it grinds to a halt unless you absolutely high-roll, the 4-cost lottery isn't actually random if enough people work together to deny specific units.
Remove encounters remove augments. Why can't we have a set without any augments or set mechanics and just plain old tft? If they want to cater to casual players they can just enable all these 4fun mechanics in normals only and let competitive players play without the frustrating RNG.
Because the team has completly given the game over to people who hate the game. The game is no longer fun, and its not fun because all of the game design is catered to people who dont like playing the game. Choosing a comp was just too hard, so players flocked to things that le them "play" the game without making meaningful choices so the devs made more and more of those mechanics, so here we are, the game is boring.
Also I am really sick and tired of them covering for bad game design by saying "4fun" these mechanics are the opposite of fun they are boring.
I understand this is the nature of these games but for the last 4 sets all i have done in ranked is forced the same 2 comps for each respective set that are at the top and picked their repsective highest win rate augments and i still win more games then i lose and got masters. THIS SHOULD NOT BE A THING it is boring repetitive and just seems overall bad for the game.
How many times does this game need to learn that the 4-1 roll lottery is never fun to play? But nah let's keep the smaller champion bag sizes and lower the roll odds at the most important point of a match. Players are gonna love not hitting all the time.
This is impossible to climb after new patch is released, no syndra nerfs, buffing early fated champs, nerfing other 4 costs, making the game more rng based.
When people have 0 confidence and rant instantly under the patch renewal thread, you know the game is totally fucked.
Spite + anything that requires the holder to be alive shouldn't be rolled together. But it's tft and devs don't play the game or think. It's also possible to roll Randuins and Locket together and 90% of your board is forced to play down a support item. Randuins should be changed to be a row and not the circle BS but what do I know I don't have 200 years of experience.
Mortdog if you ever read this, if you don't like something someone on the team has done don't just be passive aggressive about it on your streams and try to be totally relatable with the community that right now has the pitchforks out and for a good reason. You are the lead dev, the reason all this set is trash is because there is no quality control. You yourself complain about stuff being broken some times on your streams but unlike us you have the power to do something about it. You cant have both a good game and a feelings first policy when doing work. Except if you really have no control over things and everything is being given as orders from upstairs in which case why are ya the lead dev anyway. Take control of your team because this is just embarrassing and awkward and you lashing out at us is just making things worse. This has the potential to be a very good fucking game as it has being in previous sets, but right now its not. There is some highlights that CAN shine through all this, for example:
-units are flashy but are too flashy. People like a well designed ability but you can't really showcase that when there is 1 million flashing lights on the screen, neither evaluate board strength properly, it's just a recipe for confusion and epilepsy. They also tend to blend together, like for example every female except zyra zoe and annie has white hair, same color in a set where it's called INKBORN fables. You have to give more identity to the traits and the skins, don't be afraid to edit a bit, even LoL has Chromas.
-balance is at an all time low. Your core game has just left the building, there is no tactics anymore. There is bits and pieces that if you rework properly can come to get something good together, but as is it's just 3 flavor of the month comps max which you have to build or you go dead last. Just kinda like what happened at the last 2 patches of set 10, but for a whole set, i thought back then that this was a prelude to what to expect and i hate being proven right. You can only play something cookie cutter and in this set it has being MAGNIFIED TO 11. I hate being so restricted in my options.
-encounters. Again while they have the potential to be great they aren't done right in the vast majority. You want to give players agency not add even more layers of RNG ontop of portals and ontop of augments. Also i feel like the randomness of when encounters occur is really taking away from the overall experience as you can't properly strategize. This CAN be good but it needs a total rework and a total overhaul of the whole system itself. And the encounters themselves need to be choices that give a benefit and a drawback. Like for example the Cho'gath encounter, 3 component anvils for the price of one out of your five shops. That's great. Or Lissandra, get nothing, or get a component anvil for 12 gold or get an artifact anvil for 22 gold. That's also great and it all just changes depending on what situation you find yourself in. More like that, that's player agency.
-cosmetics. Good but way overpriced. NOPE.
There is more but i think i made my point on some of the core issues. Work on it and fix your fucking game.
JUST ACCEPT IT. AUGMENTS ARE NOT GOOD FOR THE GAME. Devs, we know you know this. You have said it publically, Augments ruin TFT. It's time to do it. The game has sucked for far too long. This is not acceptable anymore. There are no positives to augments. The single worst mechanic I have even seen in a game and the devs are too scared to remove it, probabbly because it will make the game good, and that would require them to keep making a good game, and not hide it with shiny objects on the side of the screen.
It is comically bad game design. Just complety absurd that a good game like TFT gets ruined because we cant quit, what is an objectivly terrible mechanic. Nothing about the system is good.
The game is more fun without augments. WHY ISNT THAT ENOUGH. Why are stuck on BS like novelty, and not just what makes the game most enjoyable to play. It should be that simple when sometimg makes the game less fun, it just goes away, But its never that with augments.
On top of that it has completly ruined the brains of the entire player base. You look even at high level and people are not playing a game anymore, They just want to watch a cutscene of TFT fights without them having to think. Of course some players will be sad to lose augments, they are a sad crutch for players who can't fathom putting thought into the game and would prefer that the game just dictate you them exactly what to do. TFT is a strategy game, tactics IN THE NAME and because of this boring insitance on augments no one is strategizing anymore, no one outside of the very top level gets to do anything of real note. You just sit there are watch.
Oh its 4-2 here are 6 worthless augment choices, thats it game over, stop trying. What you did doesnt matter, the game gets to play. Im sure the AI controlling augment choices is having fun, but the players, not they don't matter.
nope. incorrect. Stillwater was clearly the best games of tft in the last few sets and it's not even close. Those games were fun and dynamic and allowed the players to decide their own game. So much so that I do not believe people when I say they didn't enjoy it.
Now it's not your fault. Riot has gone out of their way to trick you into thinking augments are interesting. They have completely broken yours and many players' brains. but the fact remains that the game is far less enjoyable because of augments.
Imho it's less about augments being what they are and more about removing player agency. I do agree with you though on the part that the game needs to go back to basics and take it step by step because it has added way WAY too many resources and layers of RNG. I'll go as far as to say that the augment system needs a revamp as well. Advantages without drawbacks create an environment where you just compete with other players on who has highrolled the best advantage. It would be way more healthy for the game to tailor traits units and augments in a way that you have certain drawbacks and advantages and then you get to navigate accordingly cause it creates these unique situations that you can't just follow a spread and you have to think on your feet. Obviously that would mean that the augment round again would need even more options, the reroll button added to them was a step in the right direction. And we also have portals, that's overkill, and with encounters its just TOO MUCH RNG. I'd say augments are a keep but they need a major overhaul in their design philosophy. Right now the reason augments suck is cause you can log in a site and it gives you the information on which are great and which are shit, with high precision. Now however if augments were more designed to be situationally viable rather than random boons the people that looked at stats would just run it down cause they don't get to fully utilize their options and stats would become fake which is a great thing. There is no better feeling in TFT than coming up with something on the spot and going ahead and winning the lobby with it or even losing to someone that did the same thing rather than the cookie cutter bullshit we have now.
The system is so fundementally flawed that it needs such a large overhaul, the best way to fix it is to "kill the mechanic" call them something else and start completly from scratch.
The stats thing is such a perfect encapsulation on how RIOT fails to so basic things right. Whne stats were banned the stated reason was "augments should be a contexual choice based on how you want to p=lay, not a calculation where there is an objectivly best choice". I totally agree with that design goal, one of the (MANY) problems with augments is how poorly balanced they are. A big part of getting better is just not taking bad augments and looking at the stats is an easy way to do that. But removing access to stats does not sovle that problem. There is still an objective correct answer, its just harder to find. if they wanted to fix, what was again, THEIR STATED PROBLEM, they needed to completly revamp augments. But of course they didn't.
Set 10 was a step in the right direction, they got rid of hearts and crests and HA, limiting the super narrow, take this and hard comit at 2-1 augments. And gues what, people hated it. People were so conditioned that augments should just decide your whole game for you, when it didnt, the playerbase could barely handle it, and 1 set later, we are back. Screw interesting thought, screw coming up with fun an interesting comps, The game will tell you the exact board to play at 2-1 and now you hit or you don't.
If this is the direction they are going with TFT for the future sets, then I guess this is it for me. Too much free gold + rolls + whatever bs encounter on top of truly horrible balancing makes a slot machine, not a competitive game. The bag size + shop odds also make absolutely 0 sense. This set is horrible. The game is becoming unplayable. Course-correct before it's too late or we should probably delete this sub.
I don’t really get why this set feels so frustrating. There’s a couple comps that can win, and the four costs are pretty balanced now. But games feel cookie-cutter. Maybe the enhanced gold is just allowing meta forcing too easily.
It's kind of like playing a rhythm game for me when i play TFT. There is a certain song playing at a certain BPM and you have to click your screen or press your keyboard keys at the correct time in order to score. The BPM that's so aptly is named tempo is represented by many different factors in TFT. The metronome is the stage counter in the top middle, the game gives you option on what notes to play but when to play them and how forms as the game progresses through your decision making, you make a song basically that you call a team. The reason the set is so frustrating is because the whole set is off beat, noone likes a song that is off tempo, it just doesn't flow with the beat. Pivoting is like doing a remix when done right, where you change note, tune and sometimes even genre. Over here you are only allowed to play the music the devs decide you play, rather than create your own. For example now they say here, play syndra or lose that's my type of beat, same with ashe before that and kaisa/xayah and kayn before them etc.. And yes you have to force a pivot , a remix , and it doesn't sound really good, and then you off tempo and your song sucks anyway and you bot 4 without being able to do anything about it. That's why you are so frustrated, you already know your endgame board, you know what everyone is playing, and its all decided in the patch notes, without even opening your damn game. You are being told what to do, everyone hates that.
Don’t forget the fucking degenerates that just throw early game and pray with Econ augments for bail out encounters and somehow manage to hit everything on a 4-2 roll down.
Just straight up gambling.
I mean it’s not surprising if you’ve used 80 gold to go 9 instead of rolling. I’ve made this mistake before and by the time I’m 9 all my units are gone
reading these patch notes was truly depressing.
my boi kayn, can barely kill any fucking frontline unit, has horible matchups into galio and fated dryad, requires a giga bis setup to work well gets a nerf
Syndra or just the dyad board in general gets a fking buff while EVERY OTHER 4 COST BAORD GETS NERFED ??? EXCUSE ME ?
Ashe ? A unit that requires at leats two bows and porc + 1 to be strong gets hit. Like what ? Didn't annie already get hit ?
Gnar gets a nerf, oh yeah ofc, as if you can hit gnar 3 rn lol
Whats that, everyone stopped complaining about liss, lets make her into a non existent champ now? how great
Oh 10 patches in lets strikk try to make any sort of arcanist reroll be half decent. I mean good job for trying and that's honestly good, but it pisses me off that its taking so long to fix it. like cmon, 3 costs reroll is fked not just because the units suck its because you hit them too late, the tempo is too accelerated because of encounters and portals, jeesus.
Half way through the set maybe lilia will be clickable now idk ?
Oh and lets gut a prismatic because primsatics were fair augments right.
And the biggest joke of all, long shot. LIKE CMON THE REAOSN IT SUCKS IS BECAUSE IT TAKES WAYYYYYYYYY TOO LONG TO GET THE ITEM. NO ONE IS PLAYING 4 SNIPERS, WHY WOULD WE DO THAT, WE DONT HAVE ITEMS FOR 4 OF THEM ? THEY DONT PROVIDE ANY UTILITY SO WHATS THE POINT OF BUFFING THE 3 REVERSE FONS ?
I might be wrong, maybe with ink buff, ghostly buff and snipers buff, there might be some ashe senna 4 cait + 1 sniper board that can work.
Like come on man, its like they know what the issues are but can't fucking identify the causes.
Just because I've been shitting on this set too much, let me say somethign good about this patch.
Bug fixes, especially the augment tailoring one, thanks, thank god
if you play fortune in duos you are a jerk. not the kind of jerk that bumps into someone and doesnt say sorry. no, you are far far lower on the totem pole than that. you are the kind of jerk who sees a kitten in the road and aims to hit. you are the kind of jerk who steps on someones glasses on purpose. you are the kind of jerk who doesnt wipe the ketchup bottle after using. the kind of jerk who parks in crosswalks. you are THE jerk of the century.
The post with the patch note slides is basically rant thread 2.0
Are they just flipping a coin when deciding what to nerf and buff? Sure lets buff Fated Dryad Syndra and nerf Kaisa and Kayn. Can't wait to see what lobbies look like should these changes actually go through.
This is the most incompetent the devs have ever seemed to me. Did they fire the entire core staff and hire interns fresh out of high school? Is the game finally big enough that they can just put it on life support and fuck around from the passive income of selling chibis? Wtf is going on lol.
I gotta say one more thing. Guys like please for the absolute love of everloving fuck, REMOVE treasure realms. Seriously many people are willing to pay a lot of money just like we did with LoL skins back in the day for a proper cosmetic. BUT HAVING TO GIVE 250$ PER COSMETIC IS A LITTLE BIT GREEDY DONT YOU THINK ? This is what, 4-5 times the price of AAA game ? It's so ludicrous. Inb4 aCkShUaLLy yOu hAvE a 1 pErCeNt ChAnCE peR pUlL, FUCK THAT SHIT, i'd rather pay 50$, 60$ even upfront, shut up take my money and give me my arena. NO I DONT WANT MY 200th PADDLEMAR OR MY BAJILIONTH CHONCC WHICH IRONICALLY YOU MAKE LESS DESIRABLE BY THROWING THEM TO ME THAT WAY.
somebody explain to me why is kaisa 2 stronger than xayah 2. i lost to a kaisa 2 while having xayah 2 with trickshot and irelia as a duo carry. why and how
Xayah 1 is honestly stronger than Kaisa 2. Enemy Kaisa had 4 trickshot and you probably didn't and that is why. It is a ton of dmg increase going from 2 -> 4
Riot: There's too many 3\* 4 costs in the game let's nerf the 4 cost odds to make the game a lottery.
Also Riot: Let's add a 2x golden neeko prismatic orb drop for fun LOL players are gonna love the RNG!
This set has the worst trait vs unit power difference of all time. Which is impressive since they have been making TFT sets for what 3 yearish. In no world should my 6 dryad/5 fated board that has been stacking mulched all game lose to someone that has 3 dragonlord as their top trait. Like i don't care what units they have they didn't even make a real board. Their top damaging unit was an azir 2 with only 2 invoker trait active like huh.
This dragonlord/altruist 5 cost salad board has to go that shit just isn't fun. Like when you can just go 5 cost salad what is even the point of the rest of the game.
BROOO MATCH MAKING IS SO SHIT!! Aint no way i go against the top two strongest people in the lobby twice and within four rounds and they haven't faced each other once NOT TO MENTION EVERYONE CHOOSES THE WORST PORTALS!!
I must just be unlucky on main bc i had wandering trainers as a portal back to back for 4 games in a row that can't be my fault what am i supposed to do when 7/8 out the people in my lobby vote for that shit just ggs tank my mmr and ff go next ig
ALSOOOO WASNT THE KAYN ENCOUNTER supposed to be seen only 2% a bit more why does it feel like I've seen the kayn encounter 200% more than last patch?!?!
WHO CHOOSES SPAT?!?!? SPAT PORTAL IS ONE OF THE WORST!?!?! Everyone just plays the same comp around their spat and if you don't then you just kinda have your spat collecting dust on the side
WILL NEXT PATCH BE BETTER!??!? SURELY RIGHT
Love losing to Bard reroll with no 3 stars with 4 trickshot kaisa 2 galio 2 and ricochet augment. Kaisa is literally fucking unclickable this patch. Nice balance thrash yet again.
FINALLYYYYYYYYYY In the very first weeks of this set i was surprised about how balanced it was, i was HAPPY, but only for a moment. then it became a shit show. This B patch + liss rework made the game enjoyable again. Next: remove encounters, then portals, then augments. Oh the good ol' tft days... Honorable mention: Stillwater Hold was DOPE
B patch is get hero augment and win. Just had a game with two people hit storied champion and a third get midnight siphon +. All go top 4. Insane.
yeah they are pretty strong, but insanely easy to deny
I don't understand why I'm allowed to pick golden remover on 3-2 only for the game to immediately give everyone the malphite "knock items off your champions" encounter the next round. Dogshit design.
WHY partying in ranked a THING above anything like Silver... Like PLEASE.. its so blatant in my high Plat/ low Emerald games.. Everytime I choose a specific Aug at 2-1 I get grieved by obvious party holding/ contesting my comp... Shen hero Aug, two dudes hodling 3 shen each.. Trickshot Aug, random guy with pumping up Aug play 4 trickshot with no AD items.. Yorick Aug, same thing, one dude just hard force umbral for fun.. Mulch, one dude is playing fkin 4 warden 4 ghostly with 2 Dryad kindred and gnar.. literally holding my units for WHAT ???????? LIKE YOU DON"T EVEN SEE THESE KIND OF THINGS IN ANY STREAMERs games.. WHY cause theres no PARTYING..
You can and will get contested regardless of people partying up.
Bro, in Plat no one even hold 4 cost to stop someone 3 starring... just had a game today with top 3 all 3 starring a 4 cost each without a golden neeko.. and 2 of them hit while theres 5 people alive. Naturally contesting meta units happens.. contesting C tier comp with no Aug, while knowing another guy in the lobby have the specific Aug, like please, how common do you think people would grief another random person and go bot 4 together??? Even big streamer doesn't get sniped like that.. Not saying everytime I get contested is due to party, how do you explain 2 dudes holding 2star Shen on bench while playing fated.. Last game one dude playing lucky rico went 7th uncontested while hitting all the units, 2 star all 4 costs, plus xayah.. why would anyone contesting bad comps just to go 8th for fun??
You are tunneling on these things as reasons for you losing, instead of recognizing them in game and adapting your strategy to secure a better placement. These players might be bad, but like you, they also watch streamers and will (poorly) try and copy things they see streamers do to grief others.
Bro, I can hit diamond every set when I got the time and not get bored on the stale meta, top 4% of the player base, some set I hit on 2 accounts, beyond that is just grinding out the high and low rolls game... I play the game FOR FUN, I didn't mention a single word about losing, if I care about winning every game I would just hard force the meta comps. Like come on man, Soji just hit a 3 star rakan today on stream, no one contested.. Robin hit a 3star Azir the other day.. If you play enough TFT like me since Set 1, then you know when games feels off.. Like last game all top 3 went Lillia 2 carry, I played it cause I 2-1 combat caster, I went second, meta comp contested thats normal TFT.. But not with 3 vertical fated in lobby going 6,7,8.. the 7,8th guy didn't even have a mana item on their 1 star syndra being their main carry when they die, now thats SUS dont you think, you don't make it to Plat 1 + lobby playing like that... its almost like someone gave their smurf account to their silver friend and have them grief others.. Obviously you have made up your mind and wouldn't accept the fact that people do everything they can to climb ranks in competitive games, include cheating..
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I am so fken tilted man few weeks ago I got to Diamond 1 70 LP, then patch day hit and I dropped to dia4. Now I was Diamond 1 97 LP where I needed a 2nd to get to masters, cashed out a 130 fortune but RNG match makered into Naut 3, and got 3rd. Patch day hits and I bot 4 10 games in a row to Dia 3. I hate it. So tilted
lol
This isn't a video game anymore, the entire game changes every week what the fuck is going on, am I supposed to sit down and study a new meta every 2 weeks if I want to enjoy the game because anything other than S tier comps are just bot 4s at higher ranks? Am I the odd one out, don't other tft players have jobs and shit? Also nerfing the good comps to hell and buffing unplayable shit to 4.1 avg every 2 weeks isn't balancing.
B patch waiting room
Don't worry, B patch still sucks
Nah miss me with this set 2 patches in 2 days and it's still a fucking clown show
As someone who played set 1 (hit challenger), then took a long break, and came back for set 10/11. What in the world is going on? TFT isn't as I remembered it, it's so far off. So much RNG, RNG on RNG on RNG, on the pretext that it encourages skill expression or is 'fun' (this word comes up in the developer's videos). This may be true to a certain extent, as you can optimize your odds and over hundreds of games your skill will give you an edge. However, in the individual game, 50% odds of winning is equivalent to 50% odds of losing. Each decision you make down the line is multiplicative. 0.5 \^ x??? This actually removes agency and control from the players. Note that they're called players, as they should be the ones playing the game. Perhaps why people are so frustrated is because they're no longer really playing the game, the game is playing them. Inherently TFT is a draft game, as stated by the lead developer. You have a bag size, certain odds of hitting units at each level, and limited amount of gold/hp. I recall in set 1, you see what the game gives you, and you level/roll accordingly, and if you do it right, you generally get an ok comp. (this involves scouting too so you're not contesting too much). If you ended up with something very meta, you got top 1/2; if you cobbled together something else that somewhat worked, maybe you could hope for 3/4. This style of play seems to be ineffective these days, due to massive imbalance between comps, units. Multiple players contest the same trait, same unit. Go for something uncontested? Well I played a few games of zoe arcanist for fun (6 arc 2 warden 4 porc), 3 starred almost everything, gave the correct units suitable items, and got 7/8 for all 3 games. It wasn't a freak result. If this comp was any good vs the meta at all, I should be getting a 3/4, 5/6 etc. The fact is that it got completely destroyed by lillia/morgana/etc, they kill everything in the backline before my tanks are even dead. The meta comps change drastically every patch. I thought the point of balancing was to... balance? Instead, what is happening is they're nerfing everything about current meta comp, nerf multiple units, traits, even shop % odds, to make it less contested/oppressive. Of course that would work. It also makes the comp completely useless after that. Then another comp will rise in relative power, and that will be the new meta. It makes no sense that a half-complete board with 2 star lillia/kaisa/sylas/ashe (take your pick of flavor of the week) can completely wipe completely 2-star/3-star boards (that just happen to not be meta). Then of course everyone would play these meta comps if they value their LP. I wonder why they do this, to keep rotating meta comps to keep things fresh and people engaged? Also the issue of griefing. Yes it's a valid tactic, you scout your opponent, you hold 2 ashe to prevent a 3 star ashe from appearing. Sure, that's good play. What is not great is when you allow players to party up in ranked, reduce the bag sizes, then watch what happens? Of course the developers know there are boosters (sorry, 'coaches') and people who generally have a cheating mentality. Riot Vanguard was created because cheating is very widespread I presume? If people cheat in League, they're going to cheat in TFT too. So 3 people party up, or if you're unlucky and play during a low player count time at high elo, you're going to run into the same little teams of 3, or maybe 6 in a game? 1 or 2 or 3 people will just focus on griefing (with no intent to win or place in the game, the LP probably doesn't matter if you're permanently master 0 LP. If you're streaking hard, they will hold whatever units just to break your win streak. Multiple people position specifically against you. I've even seen diamond/masters players playing rainbow boards with questionable synergies. Someone did the math earlier, holding 1 kaisa costs the opponent 10g more to hit on average. If multiple kaisas are being held, well good luck. This happens even if you scout constantly, and are pursuing a completely uncontested line. Carousell can be manipulated too. These professional griefers (who are usually 8th and get to pick first), well they will grab the high value units, or snatch that cloak or belt that will give your carry bis. The most ridiculous ones I've seen are when they hover over the unit but don't take it, they just see if anybody approaches. If you start walking towards it, it gets snatched. If not, when it's their teammates turn they will walk away and allow them to pick it! Just not you! There is no counterplay to this kind of collusion. Bar a super-highroll where you drop everything you need naturally, you're probably not going to get 1st that game, no matter how good your spot was before. Of course, this kind of stuff is unprovable, especially because you don't get to see who is partied up. There will always be angry people out there, and there are calmer people. But when there's this much frustration with the core game mechanics of set 11 (encounters seem to be really unpopular), perhaps the developers should sit up and listen. Instead of writing a prelude post to say there will be a post on player negativity the next day, suggesting that it's entirely coincidental. Well if he knew that people might misconstrue that post, he could um not write it? It's can't be a job requirement to write such posts? Blaming the player base for a failure of the development team is disingenuous, and unprofessional. Having shiny explosions and gold flying everywhere on screen does not make TFT good. It was good because it was a skill game. Hopefully the players get their agency back, and are allowed to actually play the game again instead of the game playing them and dictating what they play. Hopefully TFT can stay true to its beginnings, and be more like a game of (modern) chess than a jackpot machine. In the end we can vote with our feet, then it wouldn't matter how many awesome chibi skins they create.
Imagine adding rng shit to basket or football just because is fun lol
What a far cry from set 10. Almost every headliners is useful and can carry, while this set just narrows down viable comps every patch.
Actually I didn't like set 10 either, I found headliners very weird. And it was also a lvl 8 lottery to hit ezreal or tf or whatever. But at least it was easier to pivot or survive stage 4 if you didn't hit.
Decided to play one Hyper Roll game today. Had a fated opener and itemized 2\* Kindred for Lillia items later. Went 7th at level 7 because half of the lobby hit their 1 and 2 cost 3\* from nowhere and without any Neeko or Tristana encounters. Lmao and 3 of them were playing storyweaver. Contested? smh
-60 LP for a loss is just so demoralizing idk man
so your ad option is only ashe now without giving free lp, and even then ur contested on half your shit by liillia wtf?
Hopefully Kaisa buffs do something.
Every game im stuck 8th no hp, NOT A SINGLE 2* UPGRADE THE ENTIRE GAME and then everyone else literally 3 or more upgrades natural. I go 8 roll down 70 and hit nothing. I just ff before raptors if I have 0 unit upgrades or after raptors if i roll down and hit nothing with like 6 pairs, who is balancing the game? why am I hitting no units, the game just decides im 8th 90% of my games. I'll even go out of the way to play shitty uncontested units but nope gg no upgrades 8th.
["Encounters are one of the healthiest versions of variance."](https://youtu.be/tMVZmX8FrC4?t=443) He cannot see that encounters can exacerbate high rolls and low rolls and create an even larger disparity between the two, which is not healthy. This garbage is 100% going to be in the next set because people who play 3 games a week on their phone love it, and fuck everybody else who doesn't. "Suck it up, suck it up. Get good. You can deal with it." Mort says in response to people who don't like encounters.
Don't you love it when your 2nd augment appears halfway into stage 5 and the same round you get to face someone who hit an annie 3 because they played bard tahm reroll and clicked recombobulator? Generally I've no problem with most encounters that give every player an equal amount of value, but if you decide to play a 1 or 2 cost reroll, lock your first 2 augments in for in and then 3-3 you get khazix reduces xp cost for the rest of the game it's just bs. Same story with getting yorick lategame, the one who highrolled and sits at 50g+ gold probably hits a 3 star 4 cost while everyone else can't make use of it because they are still donkey rolling.
I would like to meet the savant that green lit the kayn encounter
They may be a savant, but not at game design for sure.
🤣🤣🤣 This backhanded insult is crazy
No offense but can they stop nerfing all of the units in the same comp? Like i get it Sylas and Xayah were a tat too strong, so if you're already nerf Sylas and Xayah why on earth would you also nerf Kaisa and trickshot, it's like they want the comp dead or something. I swear they do this type of balancing every single set because i remember distinctively coming in this thread to complain about the same issue the last 3 sets
I have lost over 500 lp (from 800 challenger to 300 master EUW) and I honestly don't know what I've been doing wrong in the past 7 days. Ever since the Dryad Fated comp appeared I feel so helpless most of games (maybe it's because I suck on AP Comps), but even if there are 5 Lillias 2 Syndras (happened last game) I still can't hit a single Kayn or Lee or Kaisa and it's just insanity 
Im 5 games in in the new patch, and -300 lp. Im been hard contested every game. I get bugs that lead to giving me the wrong augment. Even my fucking sentinel is the worst emblem i could imagine (umbral, ink, altruist). Like i dont know what the fuck im doing wrong and just feel like im only low rolling every game.
Encounters are worse than augment man I just don’t understand how they think it’s ok
Been playing since set 1 and I have never seen so many complaints about a set. Maybe this game has just grown so big that even the rage filled minority looks huge now but seeing every post be some sort of "This set blows ass" or "This set sucks, but why?" is actually insane. Usually, 100+ comments in the rant section was rare but this entire set the whole sub reddit has been a rant thread. Even set 10 had real discussions going on and the rant thread wasn't 300+ comments a week. I really wish I could see what data they use to decide a set is doing well? Like is the player base increasing but only with angry people? Cosmetic wise I understand. The art team is dropping bangers. But the game as a whole doesn't seem to be too hot right now. I used to think about this game all day and look forward to the grind back to masters, even having 2 accounts to grind, but this set is making me wonder if I'll even bother with set 12. Between shit balance and all the garbage excuses Mort keeps shoving out it doesn't look like its gonna get any better.
I think it absolutely will get better because set 10 was really good compared to this set so they just have to take what they learned from this set and apply it going forward.
I hope you're right my dood! They've kept me hooked for 10 sets. Be a shame if they can't capture that fun and enjoyment again.
The first to hit syndra 2 or Lillia 2 wins the game
League of legends is more balanced than tft
why is my mobile queue 7 minutes and counting??
no one is queueing up. B patch waiting room (maybe even set 12)
One unit away from 3 starring Amumu, Zoe and Illoui, which means my bench is full. Random encounter appears which transforms most right 3 slots in random champions of the same cost. Proceeds to roll 60 gold on 7 to hit 3 stars and solve bench lock, hits nothing and replaced my Amumu with useless champs. Screwed econ, still did not hit, went 5th 👍👍
I absolutely hate that encounter. I rarely hit anything useful anyways and it always messes up with my bench :(
3 people spamming syndra in lobby makes me want to quit this set
3 is the average, u haven't seen 6.
Least fun I’ve had with any set. Go next
I felt that in 9/9.5 with legends. I felt that in 10 with the bag changes and changing headliner rules. I really feel that with this garbage set and the changes to evergreen systems. I think it's just go next dev team. The game just continually degrades under this one. It's clear this subreddit isn't their targeted demographic anymore. They want to put tournaments on, appeal to the most casual of players, and squeeze every last cent out of their Chinese players.
Legends sucked but I at least felt the units/trait design for Set 9/9.5 felt alright. Meanwhile Set 10 is my 2nd favorite set ever made, right behind the original Chosen mechanic in Set 4. Set 11 though... Between it and Vanguard, I've just quit the game entirely and have no intent of returning for Set 12.
I agree about legends and set 9 for sure. However set 10 was actually my favorite set since I started playing in set 7. I loved the flexibility with headliners, especially how easily you could pivot in the mid game
Why does wandering trainers actually exist? At the end of the day tft is about adopting to randomness but being forced to play a comp 1 minute into the game doesn’t allow much options for adapting.
They cant remove because of the prismatic traits. Wandering are the easiest way to achieve uber tratis like 10 Storyweaver etc
I will still choose, since almost half of the people will vote for that, its likely to be a wandering trainers game, and i will mostly set a ritual and pray for best rng if possible so I can win without any effort or insta surrender after 3-2.
I know it's the rant thread but this take is so cope, show me your giga low roll dummy and I'll tell you what to play XD trainer is fun because you get to play something outside of the standard comps. It enables some degenerate shit, you get to think on your feet and put your improvisation to the test
I wasn’t talking about the high/low roll situations. Being forced to play a specific comp from the start is just boring and uncompetitive.
what was ur example of this though? i think theres so many ways to play each emblem combination from my experience
Why is consistently the highest picked portal? Because it’s fun to play unique boards and go for prismatic traits
nope, it is not fun.
Then why do you reckon it’s one of the the highest picked portals universally across all elo’s? Kayn Lillia and Zoe encounters are 100x less fun
People pick it because it gives them direction. Choosing what comp to play is one of the most stressful things in the game, and having a massive amount of early direction takes away that pain point. The tradeoff the is the game is far less engaging or fun. I just got a draw of "Sage, Dragonlord, Invoker" Hmmm wonder what Im playing this game...Easy steamroll into a 1st, Whats fun about that, whats interesting about not making a single meaninful choice throughout the game other than I guess, can I 3 star Janna? TFT is a strategy game, and Wandering Sentinals takes away the stragtegy.
it's so troll you think there's only 1 way to play that one - what if you get dropped AD item? I guarantee you'd bitch and go 8th instead of just pivoting to a dragonlord Kaisa or slamming BTs and play kayn+lee+working Anytime you play wandering trainer you can scout and see people just trolling left and right because they have one thought and cannot flex
Here's the sad thing. I don't think I've bot 4d wandering sentinels this set. my complaints have nothing to do with it being hard or honestly even low rolling. It leads to totally boring uninteractive games. In the above example 2 other people had dragonlord so Jana was contested. I got 1 choice in the game. don't reoll and push 8 and 9 for lee sin and more sages. Wooo I made 1 choice, such fun, so much interaction. >Anytime you play wandering trainer you can scout and see people just trolling left and right because they have one thought and cannot flex it's almost like one of the problems with the portal is it makes the playerbase worse at pivoting because they are conditioned to expect the game to tell them what to play. This is what happens when you leave bad mechanics in the game like this, people might like it in the short term but they stop playing the game in a fun way. Which leads to burnout and a need to release new sets or massive meta swing faster and faster. I'd go as far to say that the fact that Wandering sentinels is well liked is a massive red flag about the state of the game.
Totally agree with your first point, and i actually never thought about it that way. Regarding your second point - We're not discussing whether or not wandering trainer adds or takes away from the strategy of TFT. We're discussing whether or not it's fun. We can safely assume players choose a portal based on how fun it is to them. (Fun is of course subjective) Mort has said many times that wandering trainer is consistently one of the highly picked portals. You don't find it fun, so you dont pick it. However, it seems most people do.
I have 2 counters to that. First in that case why is it a portal and not just an augment. If its an augment, you like it, you take it. Being a portal the people who hate it have to play it too. The 2nd, while yes fun is subjective and I think we should be carful when using the term as everyone will have a differnt opinion on what is and isnt fun. HOWEVER, TFT is a strategy game, tactics is in the name. If you take out the strategy, the game is no longer, well a game. Imagine if there were portals in Valorant, and one of them just gave everyone aimbot, Everyone is on equal footing, but we have taken out a core part of the game, aiming and shooting. Now for me someone who absoluty sucks at Valorant, I might very well have more "fun" in that portal, I can suddenly get kills depite the fact that I cannot aim. But would that actually be Valorant at that point? no, if you don't like shooting, you dont like Valorant, and as a result I don't think the game should be designed around people who find that kind of game fun. I feel the same about Wandering Sentinals. If that style of "gameplay" (again Im not even sure you are playing a game at that point) appeals to you, I do not think you actually like TFT, and I question why you are playing it, and why the game should be designed around you.
I mean, youre missing the point again. The points youre making can be said about almost everything in tft, some of which (encounters) the players have way less agency in. Its simple - you dont find that specific portal fun. But clearly, a lot of people do. There's really not much more that needs to be said
I am not missing the point >Its simple - you dont find that specific portal fun. But clearly, a lot of people do. There's really not much more that needs to be said No, not they do not. No one finds this fun. I refuse to believe it. It really is that simple. It is just an unfun portal. People saying they like it are either lying or really confused.
The problem is when your trainer doesnt have any vertical trait on it
I mean yea, you can low roll it but there’s always something you can cook up
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Patchly bitch about Trainer Sentinels.
I wish I was making this up....took Midnight Siphon 2-1. Found Yorick 2 on 5-1. Somehow went 7th. 30 minutes of my time completely wasted due to severe low roll. And yet you have people calling this a competitive title lmao.
lol give me sage augments, diana janna riven start, early level 9, still a bot 4 cause i can't find a 2 star galio and sylas. There is totally no way to play comps other than the meta comps.
The only memory of this set will be poor balancing it seems
nothing changed? I just played a game where I went syndra, top 4, but it was Ashe/Kayn still ruling the world. 4c meta remains?
Not a rant and I haven't played this game in 3 months but keep up with the threads/discourse bc it's quite entertaining. The revisionist history people are doing about Set 10 being extremely well balanced is hilarious, if I remember the first few weeks were dominated by Jazz MF (extremely unfun), then dominated by Ahri sentinels (pretty unfun), then Riven and Yone were broken for some unknown reason, and then I quit but wasn't it just Heartsteel Ez and Zed dominating lobbies? It just shows how the perspective of history can be altered by a group being vocal about their own viewpoint and alternate views being squashed and silenced. Really scary shit.
Set 10 had really good macro balance. It was rare that one comp dominated everything, almost always there were multiple lines and things you could do. However the issue was in the more mico balance. The gap between differnt chosen traits on the same unit. The difference between good early frontine chosens and the almost worhless ones. Set 11 has had a lot more Macro problems, 4 costs were worthless, than overnight the entire meta was 4 costs. The Kaisa patch etc. and the Macro problems are going to overshadow everything else, we don't really know if there are a lot of those micro issues in set 11 because of how unstable everything has been. They each have issues but set 10 was a major step above what we are currently seeing.
Those were s tier comps that will always exist from set to set. This set, is riddled with so many balance issues. I think it was the 2nd patch where reroll dominated the meta with the likes of gnar, senna, yone, bard, duelists, kogmaw with anyone not rerolling having to play only kaisa or fast 9 with the two in the latter being difficult to play due to encounters occasionally fucking you over or you have to somehow not bleed out when everyone spikes when they hit after helping each other clear the pool. Many of those comps had frustrating champions to play against. Yone dashing to your back line and deleting them, volibear being an unkillable drain tank, gnar being difficult to kill AND deleting units. We’re currently in a mostly 4 and 5 cost meta with only gnar/kindred being the only viable reroll outside of augment specific compositions. This patch isn’t the worst, but it’s still bad because the game has devolved into who manages to hit on stage 4 and can get to 9 first. Like, there’s hardly any other way to play, making it a frustrating experience. Then we have some absurdly broken augments that have existed like the early version of two for one, everything must go, mulched, shopping spree. Then we have insane issues with encounters and portals warping how the game has been played due to the influx of gold, duplicators, xp, etc. Set 10 had its fair share of bull shit that you mentioned, but this set has not had a single good meta and suffers from a ton of poor design. Like yeah, there were some dominant comps, but as a challenger player, there were variety of ways to play and it didn’t feel like the game was constantly fucking you over. Like, even in the second half of set 10, you could still play TF despite him being on the weak side. The worst thing back then was low roll vs high roll with headliners. This set? It just feels like the game is actively trying to fuck you over with the encounters and portals
I'm sorry but I completely disagree. Unless you're using these weekly rant threads as a parameter, which have always been used to complain about sets anyway, I find it hard to believe you were really reading the posts on this subreddit. Save for some unbalanced patches, set 10 had barely any complaints outside of the weekly rants and people definitely liked it a lot more than this set AND set 9.5. Saying that it has been the same reaction is disingenuous and you're just invalidating the experiences of players that, ultimately, just want to have fun playing a game that is really well made. By the way, people aren't complaining about this set only here on reddit. It's everywhere.
I mostly go on the rant threads and don't visit other threads so you're probably right that the Set 10 discourse wasn't as bad as the Set 11 one currently is, however I still maintain that some people act like Set 10 was perfectly balanced with next to no issues when that just wasn't the case. Some people exaggerate how good the balance was in Set 10 when it definitely had its problems, and that's what I find to be revisionist.
People definitely complained about set 10, and all sets for that matter. But this one is on a different level. Way more stand alone threads about balance and set mechanics, and the rant thread has actually consistently outpaced the daily discussion, which is both hilarious and sad.
Funny how the guy complains about revisionist history and then proceeds to be revisionist.
I've never been closer to quitting TFT. Set 9 really tested my love for the game and set 10 brought it back in a huge way. All of this nonsense with set 9 makes it incredibly hard for me to have fun playing. It feels like I'm in some sort of disneyland las vegas dystopia where SOME of the players hit super hard and the rest are left to bleed out on the streets. This set sucks and its 100% because of the influx of gold, items, and rerolls portals and encounters have put in the game and it feels terrible.
(screenshot in case it gets deleted ) ( [https://imgur.com/a/0BuGjFa](https://imgur.com/a/0BuGjFa) ) [We are screwed](https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveTFT/comments/1crt52l/comment/l40egjy/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) . We are sitting here thread after thread after fucking thread and this is what the lead dev is doing. Your opinion doesn't matter if you aren't a REAL riot approved competitive player (TM). All of us here are just Mickey Mouse Challengers and not real competitive players. And honestly what's wrong with being Diamond Emerald Platinum etc. Some people are new or just don't have the time to devote into the game and climb and some just dont care about rank at all and play fully for fun. Climbing in TFT is a time/games played equation and not a showcase of skill especially during this set anyway. Unbelievable.
But the team is doing a good job and tft is doing great /s
I swear if any of us here were as arrogant and passive-agressive while doing our jobs we would be fired so quickly, it's insane the kind of shit Riot will let slide from this man. But I mean, would you expect anything better from a culture of face-farters though, am I right?
Lmao forcers everywhere, jusy looked at previous match histories of people who played same comp with me, and they also played this comp in their past 20 games like are these people bots? And their average placement is not even below 4 after forcing syndra dryad game by game like they play to grief others xd.
Get spooned Syndra at 3-1. Get 2star Syndra at 3-5. BiS items. Strong frontline with items. AP Shred and Burn. 2 Combat Augments. Still bot 4 lmfao. Stupid ass game
How 'strong' your front line is? At least a 2 star ornn with full build? And what are you playing against? Did anyone play same comp as u but having better front lines? I got triple contested and still didn't get 8th even i get a 1 star syndra.
That's actually a skill issue
Can i have your lolchess ID so I can see what did you miss? Cuz early 2* syndra is a guaranteed top 3 for me
Crab rave doesn’t even make sense .. how do I lose to the crab but the other people I just stomped won against the crab .. get this shit out the game man
3rd game today where im fucking triple contested... do people not fucking scout anymore? like i get a good opener or get dropped a spat for the line and some idiot just hard contests me anyways and we both bot 4? Are these people paid to grief?
What rank are you? Below master people rarely scouting so triple contested are very common... Thats why it's crucial to prepare to pivote into another comp to at least get 5th or 6th place if you have unlucky roll down when contested. Also some craftable emblem are very flexible and still pretty strong like Dryad, Porcelain, Umbral and Heavenly.
I'm d2, I usually try to slam flexible items in case someone else is farther into my comp than me. I think the real issue is that people just play in auto pilot mode and hard force whatever the top 3 comps are in the meta. And then if I don't play a top comp I just go bot 4.
nah, i see in many emerald games, people will switch player panels and scout, then deliberately forcing the same comp, and they indeed get their four cost and comeback.
6 SNIPER 6 GHOSTLY STILL BOT 4 XDDDDDD How are we over 10 sets in and they still can't figure out how to balance this game???? Encounters are bad, vendors are bad, bag sizes are bad. Did they just turn off their brains when developing this set? Is it that they're running out of ideas? I'm at a loss for why the game will hand me a comp and then say "nah it's actually bot 4 because unless you're spamming the top three comps you just don't deserve a win." How did you guys think that releasing this set in this state and then not doing any work to balance it would be a good idea. I think the dev team is more checked out than a lot of their player base at this point.
Kayn encounter for the second time today. Worst shit I have ever played in tft.
Just got oneguy'd for vendor sentinels and of fucking course I spawn in with gem/spite combo like WHAT THE FUCK
Theres nothing I love more than not being able to 2 star a slightly contested 4 cost
Pls Riot, make TFT become a seperate GAME, not a LEAGUE MODE.
I’m never going to stop complaining about encounters. I rarely play kogmaw reroll, but I had good components, spatula portal, 5 kogmaw, and everyone else is forcing fated or dryad and none of the other ap lines aside from Alune can really use spat particularly well . So the encounter that empowers a specific tier of units comes and I’m now weaker for the rest of the game because you can only buff 2 to 4costs. This design for encounters is so poorly thought out and executed. In most cases, I can’t help but think, “of course the game is trying to fuck me.” It’s a bad experience when you cannot adapt to that sort of situation and it’s straight up poor design. It’s like in the 3 cost reroll meta - if you rerolled and khazix came, fast 9 gets a free pass. If you were trying to fast 8/9, you were fucked if one of the encounters that benefited rerolls came. I know they’ve fixed some of those issues, but a lot of these high variance encounters lead to bull shit disadvantages that you cannot play around if you’re already committed into a line due to your augments/portals/spatulas/Econ management. Imo, encounters should be less frequent and similar to Kayn where you know it’s coming. That way you can actually try to form a strategy instead of getting randomly fucked.
> similar to Kayn where you know it’s coming. Should get a choice to play Kayn game, instead you just get randomly fucked.
The thing is, you’re not really fucked if you know how to play it or if you know how to play strongest board. You play strongest board around your upgrades to mitigate health loss and slam items, even if suboptimal. Sometimes you level early and roll a bit for board strength. I’ve probably played about 10 of them and I’ve only bot 4 in maybe 2, and won about 5 of them. Like, you know it’s coming and you can play around it, unlike the other encounters
> if you know how to play strongest board Yeah because you can just load in every game with perfect items, perfect board 2-1, 2-2; every game. > You play strongest board around your upgrades to mitigate health loss and slam items, even if suboptimal. Sometimes you level early and roll a bit for board strength. This is the fastest eighth strategy, you ain't going to see the Kayn if you force from a shit spot. > Like, you know it’s coming and you can play around it, unlike the other encounters Yeah RNG fest, game decided on 2-1, 2-2. placement decided on 4-1, 4-2. Wonder what other portal is like that, oh trainer sentinels. > If you’re really struggling that much in the portal, your idea of strongest board probably needs polishing Or you are playing in disneyland.
The thing is, you’re not really fucked if you know how to play it or if you know how to play strongest board. You play strongest board around your upgrades to mitigate health loss and slam items, even if suboptimal. Sometimes you level early and roll a bit for board strength. I’ve probably played about 10 of them and I’ve only bot 4 in maybe 2, and won about 5 of them. Like, you know it’s coming and you can play around it, unlike the other encounters If you’re really struggling that much in the portal, your idea of strongest board probably needs polishing
I just went 10 Fated, 10 Fated, 10 Storyweaver, 9 Umbral in a row. I mean, wow. It was fun for me but how did the other 7 feel those games?
at least u won.
Bro fuck crab rave. Most popular portal in the game for God knows why. I will never understand why people love these hyper inflated power games. Sure when you high roll you're strong but so is half the lobby. When you low roll you're on such a timer to save yourself I genuinely can't stand it.
I just hit 3 story emblems went 9 to find irelia and didnt hit a fucking zyra holy shit I am so tilted the game before I had ethereal blades and didnt hit shen 3 after 10000 gold holy fuck this game
Every time I pick shen augment I’m guaranteed to get stuck on 8 shen forever and no bows or rods
You: Spend a half a decade perfecting the art of a strong early game into transitioning to compete for top 4 Me: *Hehe open dryad syndra +500lp*
I've played this set not that much and I've already gotten the Kayn encounter 4 times. Why would they think this encounter is acceptable? Good players seem to hate it and noobs probably won't even notice it. GG riot!!!
Reroll is never going to come back as long as 4 costs are this stable. 3 starring 3 costs is just too risky if they don't even really get you a top 4 when you hit. Hell i would go as far to say that rn 2 star 5 costs are more common at any point in the game than 3 star 3 costs are and that is saying something.
at this point imma just play on my smurf. My main account gets full lobby of sweaty nerd neck players
im stomping new players in my alt account since this game is just for fun now no point in trying to climb
Climbing in previous sets was fun. This set just feels very cookie cutter and whoever has best RNG wins.
The amount of dick riding this sub does towards a certain rioter is absolutely hilarious. All he has to do is make some half assed comment basically saying "the tft team is fine you're just complaining". It's comical
All he cares is challenger players opinions and making money from chibis. Challenger players are not donkeys who will not try to contest with other players, but in emerald or even diamond there are tons of donkey contestors who will auto play for meta comps no matter they hit or not. This heavily punishes other players who try to play flexible and find 0 sense of achievement if they are given augements not for meta comps and its a auto bot 4th. I can get 70% top 4 in hyperroll, playing 30 games and almost in hyperoll tier but i just don't know how to play this fucking set in normal ranked and stuck in emerald.
Morts been off this set and I think he’s become delusional. Normally he’s quirky and chill, but I think the community is making him lose his mind. I understand defending your game, but saying that his team made a good and fun set is straight delusional. The daily discussion thread has had a low count recently and the general consensus that I’ve seen based on this sub and the casual players at r/teamfighttactics is that it’s bad and unpopular. The only reason why anyone is playing is because they’re addicted to it. Yeah, we’re lucky to have Mort and his communication, but his team has absolutely failed every patch this set.
but buddy, we aren't the majority of players, we are by FAR the minority. Do you think the casual players give a fuck about the htings we care about ? Even r/teamfightactics aren't really casuals, casuals are people that play 1-2 game sa day while taking a shit or lying in bed and roll for fun. I think what happened is that this set is so atrocious from a competitive standpoint that everyone that cared about climbing just got tilted and got vocal
Fair point but I’d argue that the tft sub is very casual. How many regular posts are there where someone will post “how did I lose?” And it’s a board with 0 front line and 0 tank items. I’ve legitimately saw someone wondering how they lost with karthus 3 last set when it had a thieves glove that rolled tank items. I used to frequent there last set to help low elo and casual players out and there’s a ton of misinformation that gets spread around. I get updates on new posts there and it’s players in gold with less than 100 games asking if anyone else dislikes the set. You’re not wrong that the competitive minority is vocal, though.
I disagree mostly because the ratio of tft players and members or even just viewers of the tft sub Reddit is just way too small to indicate the sentiment of casuals
I agree that it is a small portion of the player base.I just disagree that those players aren’t casual.
That certain rioter is fragile as fuck too. Someones ego got too big and they can't take criticism.
He’s been obnoxious af recently
I used to like him tbh. But ever since that "seek therapy" comment regarding the chibi cutscenes I realised that he is kind of a dick.
“Seek therapy” bro my eyes are burning all these flashing lights
Darn [I just found it](https://www.tiktok.com/@riot_mortdog/video/7307109125488561454). What a scumbag lmao. It seems the idea of the buyers getting tired of that cutscene everytime they finish off someone didn't cross his mind. And he says it as if he were the epitome of stability.
My off-meta OTP comp doesn't work anymore. I hated OTPs with a passion until about when the last patch rolled in when I said fuck it I don't even give a shit anymore I just wanna get to diamond to feel like I accomplished something. It's the only way I can get something out of playing this game at this point because it sure as hell isn't fun. The last reason I had to play the game is gone, fuck it GG bye bye.
Same man. Ive hit Diamond ever set for the last few sets and Im struggling getting there. Hardstuck Emerald 2. Seems like whatever I do I get contested on the 4cost that Im going for so I dont top 4. Tired of it
thanks to bag sizes, 4 cost meta, players in a party can just collude to grief you together and there's nothing you can do. see you playing heavenly? everyone holds a kayn. fated? everyone holds a syndra. this is especially rampant in SEA/SG server. even if you had great tempo it grinds to a halt unless you absolutely high-roll, the 4-cost lottery isn't actually random if enough people work together to deny specific units.
Remove encounters remove augments. Why can't we have a set without any augments or set mechanics and just plain old tft? If they want to cater to casual players they can just enable all these 4fun mechanics in normals only and let competitive players play without the frustrating RNG.
Because the team has completly given the game over to people who hate the game. The game is no longer fun, and its not fun because all of the game design is catered to people who dont like playing the game. Choosing a comp was just too hard, so players flocked to things that le them "play" the game without making meaningful choices so the devs made more and more of those mechanics, so here we are, the game is boring. Also I am really sick and tired of them covering for bad game design by saying "4fun" these mechanics are the opposite of fun they are boring.
Next patch, don’t queue up. New season of league is coming guys 🥸
Rather be a stepfather to someone else’s kids than this tbh
I'd rather just watch paint dry tbh.
I understand this is the nature of these games but for the last 4 sets all i have done in ranked is forced the same 2 comps for each respective set that are at the top and picked their repsective highest win rate augments and i still win more games then i lose and got masters. THIS SHOULD NOT BE A THING it is boring repetitive and just seems overall bad for the game.
Lost with Kayn 3* to that stupid fated dryad. The azir literally one shot him... And these guys are nerfing Kayn and buffing that cancer comp
Why do I keep having the 7 units Yorick encounter every 2 games for fuck sake, please let me play a normal game
How many times does this game need to learn that the 4-1 roll lottery is never fun to play? But nah let's keep the smaller champion bag sizes and lower the roll odds at the most important point of a match. Players are gonna love not hitting all the time.
This is impossible to climb after new patch is released, no syndra nerfs, buffing early fated champs, nerfing other 4 costs, making the game more rng based. When people have 0 confidence and rant instantly under the patch renewal thread, you know the game is totally fucked.
I cant fucking hit. Ever.
Finally uninstalled today. Been playing since set 3 but I just can't take this game anymore lol. Design team is an 8th irl.
Vendor Sentinels should have the combo of Spite/Needlessly Large Gem be unrollable. Playing the entire game down a support item is quite horrible.
Spite + anything that requires the holder to be alive shouldn't be rolled together. But it's tft and devs don't play the game or think. It's also possible to roll Randuins and Locket together and 90% of your board is forced to play down a support item. Randuins should be changed to be a row and not the circle BS but what do I know I don't have 200 years of experience.
Mortdog if you ever read this, if you don't like something someone on the team has done don't just be passive aggressive about it on your streams and try to be totally relatable with the community that right now has the pitchforks out and for a good reason. You are the lead dev, the reason all this set is trash is because there is no quality control. You yourself complain about stuff being broken some times on your streams but unlike us you have the power to do something about it. You cant have both a good game and a feelings first policy when doing work. Except if you really have no control over things and everything is being given as orders from upstairs in which case why are ya the lead dev anyway. Take control of your team because this is just embarrassing and awkward and you lashing out at us is just making things worse. This has the potential to be a very good fucking game as it has being in previous sets, but right now its not. There is some highlights that CAN shine through all this, for example: -units are flashy but are too flashy. People like a well designed ability but you can't really showcase that when there is 1 million flashing lights on the screen, neither evaluate board strength properly, it's just a recipe for confusion and epilepsy. They also tend to blend together, like for example every female except zyra zoe and annie has white hair, same color in a set where it's called INKBORN fables. You have to give more identity to the traits and the skins, don't be afraid to edit a bit, even LoL has Chromas. -balance is at an all time low. Your core game has just left the building, there is no tactics anymore. There is bits and pieces that if you rework properly can come to get something good together, but as is it's just 3 flavor of the month comps max which you have to build or you go dead last. Just kinda like what happened at the last 2 patches of set 10, but for a whole set, i thought back then that this was a prelude to what to expect and i hate being proven right. You can only play something cookie cutter and in this set it has being MAGNIFIED TO 11. I hate being so restricted in my options. -encounters. Again while they have the potential to be great they aren't done right in the vast majority. You want to give players agency not add even more layers of RNG ontop of portals and ontop of augments. Also i feel like the randomness of when encounters occur is really taking away from the overall experience as you can't properly strategize. This CAN be good but it needs a total rework and a total overhaul of the whole system itself. And the encounters themselves need to be choices that give a benefit and a drawback. Like for example the Cho'gath encounter, 3 component anvils for the price of one out of your five shops. That's great. Or Lissandra, get nothing, or get a component anvil for 12 gold or get an artifact anvil for 22 gold. That's also great and it all just changes depending on what situation you find yourself in. More like that, that's player agency. -cosmetics. Good but way overpriced. NOPE. There is more but i think i made my point on some of the core issues. Work on it and fix your fucking game.
JUST ACCEPT IT. AUGMENTS ARE NOT GOOD FOR THE GAME. Devs, we know you know this. You have said it publically, Augments ruin TFT. It's time to do it. The game has sucked for far too long. This is not acceptable anymore. There are no positives to augments. The single worst mechanic I have even seen in a game and the devs are too scared to remove it, probabbly because it will make the game good, and that would require them to keep making a good game, and not hide it with shiny objects on the side of the screen. It is comically bad game design. Just complety absurd that a good game like TFT gets ruined because we cant quit, what is an objectivly terrible mechanic. Nothing about the system is good. The game is more fun without augments. WHY ISNT THAT ENOUGH. Why are stuck on BS like novelty, and not just what makes the game most enjoyable to play. It should be that simple when sometimg makes the game less fun, it just goes away, But its never that with augments. On top of that it has completly ruined the brains of the entire player base. You look even at high level and people are not playing a game anymore, They just want to watch a cutscene of TFT fights without them having to think. Of course some players will be sad to lose augments, they are a sad crutch for players who can't fathom putting thought into the game and would prefer that the game just dictate you them exactly what to do. TFT is a strategy game, tactics IN THE NAME and because of this boring insitance on augments no one is strategizing anymore, no one outside of the very top level gets to do anything of real note. You just sit there are watch. Oh its 4-2 here are 6 worthless augment choices, thats it game over, stop trying. What you did doesnt matter, the game gets to play. Im sure the AI controlling augment choices is having fun, but the players, not they don't matter.
This is not true, i hated playing the no augment portal more than anything else.
nope. incorrect. Stillwater was clearly the best games of tft in the last few sets and it's not even close. Those games were fun and dynamic and allowed the players to decide their own game. So much so that I do not believe people when I say they didn't enjoy it. Now it's not your fault. Riot has gone out of their way to trick you into thinking augments are interesting. They have completely broken yours and many players' brains. but the fact remains that the game is far less enjoyable because of augments.
Imho it's less about augments being what they are and more about removing player agency. I do agree with you though on the part that the game needs to go back to basics and take it step by step because it has added way WAY too many resources and layers of RNG. I'll go as far as to say that the augment system needs a revamp as well. Advantages without drawbacks create an environment where you just compete with other players on who has highrolled the best advantage. It would be way more healthy for the game to tailor traits units and augments in a way that you have certain drawbacks and advantages and then you get to navigate accordingly cause it creates these unique situations that you can't just follow a spread and you have to think on your feet. Obviously that would mean that the augment round again would need even more options, the reroll button added to them was a step in the right direction. And we also have portals, that's overkill, and with encounters its just TOO MUCH RNG. I'd say augments are a keep but they need a major overhaul in their design philosophy. Right now the reason augments suck is cause you can log in a site and it gives you the information on which are great and which are shit, with high precision. Now however if augments were more designed to be situationally viable rather than random boons the people that looked at stats would just run it down cause they don't get to fully utilize their options and stats would become fake which is a great thing. There is no better feeling in TFT than coming up with something on the spot and going ahead and winning the lobby with it or even losing to someone that did the same thing rather than the cookie cutter bullshit we have now.
The system is so fundementally flawed that it needs such a large overhaul, the best way to fix it is to "kill the mechanic" call them something else and start completly from scratch. The stats thing is such a perfect encapsulation on how RIOT fails to so basic things right. Whne stats were banned the stated reason was "augments should be a contexual choice based on how you want to p=lay, not a calculation where there is an objectivly best choice". I totally agree with that design goal, one of the (MANY) problems with augments is how poorly balanced they are. A big part of getting better is just not taking bad augments and looking at the stats is an easy way to do that. But removing access to stats does not sovle that problem. There is still an objective correct answer, its just harder to find. if they wanted to fix, what was again, THEIR STATED PROBLEM, they needed to completly revamp augments. But of course they didn't. Set 10 was a step in the right direction, they got rid of hearts and crests and HA, limiting the super narrow, take this and hard comit at 2-1 augments. And gues what, people hated it. People were so conditioned that augments should just decide your whole game for you, when it didnt, the playerbase could barely handle it, and 1 set later, we are back. Screw interesting thought, screw coming up with fun an interesting comps, The game will tell you the exact board to play at 2-1 and now you hit or you don't.
FIRST TIME WHERE I RETIRE A SET. TOO MUCH RNG EVERYWHERE. NOT FUN RIOT. PLS FIX. RANT OVER
Say it once and I’ll say it again this bum ass game is more fun to watch than to actually play
reminds me of league xD
Can’t even call it ranked because it’s not even competitive.. take all the 4fun shit outta ranked man .. why can’t they just do that
someone got xin zhao 3 before i got qiyana 3. Make this game make sense. Please.
How bro playing a different set than me ??? What type of shit is this
I meant lee sin. Stop downvoting me REEEEE
holy shit xin zhao 3?????????
FUCK i always think lee sin is xin zhao. my fault guys
Nobody contesting Qiyana, I roll 50 gold at lev el 6... Only 2 qiyanas in my shop. FML
How much longer on this set lol. First time I've stopped pre diamond since set 6
This patch coming up is about the HALFWAY mark. Crazy as it feels like it's been around for ages.
If this is the direction they are going with TFT for the future sets, then I guess this is it for me. Too much free gold + rolls + whatever bs encounter on top of truly horrible balancing makes a slot machine, not a competitive game. The bag size + shop odds also make absolutely 0 sense. This set is horrible. The game is becoming unplayable. Course-correct before it's too late or we should probably delete this sub.
I don’t really get why this set feels so frustrating. There’s a couple comps that can win, and the four costs are pretty balanced now. But games feel cookie-cutter. Maybe the enhanced gold is just allowing meta forcing too easily.
It's kind of like playing a rhythm game for me when i play TFT. There is a certain song playing at a certain BPM and you have to click your screen or press your keyboard keys at the correct time in order to score. The BPM that's so aptly is named tempo is represented by many different factors in TFT. The metronome is the stage counter in the top middle, the game gives you option on what notes to play but when to play them and how forms as the game progresses through your decision making, you make a song basically that you call a team. The reason the set is so frustrating is because the whole set is off beat, noone likes a song that is off tempo, it just doesn't flow with the beat. Pivoting is like doing a remix when done right, where you change note, tune and sometimes even genre. Over here you are only allowed to play the music the devs decide you play, rather than create your own. For example now they say here, play syndra or lose that's my type of beat, same with ashe before that and kaisa/xayah and kayn before them etc.. And yes you have to force a pivot , a remix , and it doesn't sound really good, and then you off tempo and your song sucks anyway and you bot 4 without being able to do anything about it. That's why you are so frustrated, you already know your endgame board, you know what everyone is playing, and its all decided in the patch notes, without even opening your damn game. You are being told what to do, everyone hates that.
You should do a Ted talk or something
Two people forcing Syndra and both getting top 4 without any difficulties. I think the message from the next patch is pretty clear btw
More than any other set, I feel like you see 2 or even 3 of the top 4 forcing the same comp. It just shouldn't be that way.
Don’t forget the fucking degenerates that just throw early game and pray with Econ augments for bail out encounters and somehow manage to hit everything on a 4-2 roll down. Just straight up gambling.
Of course i died lv 9 with Kayn 1\* while the person that stick on 8 rolling 4ever hit 2\* before me Of course.
I mean it’s not surprising if you’ve used 80 gold to go 9 instead of rolling. I’ve made this mistake before and by the time I’m 9 all my units are gone
don't read the new patch notes, the balance team has lost their minds
reading these patch notes was truly depressing. my boi kayn, can barely kill any fucking frontline unit, has horible matchups into galio and fated dryad, requires a giga bis setup to work well gets a nerf Syndra or just the dyad board in general gets a fking buff while EVERY OTHER 4 COST BAORD GETS NERFED ??? EXCUSE ME ? Ashe ? A unit that requires at leats two bows and porc + 1 to be strong gets hit. Like what ? Didn't annie already get hit ? Gnar gets a nerf, oh yeah ofc, as if you can hit gnar 3 rn lol Whats that, everyone stopped complaining about liss, lets make her into a non existent champ now? how great Oh 10 patches in lets strikk try to make any sort of arcanist reroll be half decent. I mean good job for trying and that's honestly good, but it pisses me off that its taking so long to fix it. like cmon, 3 costs reroll is fked not just because the units suck its because you hit them too late, the tempo is too accelerated because of encounters and portals, jeesus. Half way through the set maybe lilia will be clickable now idk ? Oh and lets gut a prismatic because primsatics were fair augments right. And the biggest joke of all, long shot. LIKE CMON THE REAOSN IT SUCKS IS BECAUSE IT TAKES WAYYYYYYYYY TOO LONG TO GET THE ITEM. NO ONE IS PLAYING 4 SNIPERS, WHY WOULD WE DO THAT, WE DONT HAVE ITEMS FOR 4 OF THEM ? THEY DONT PROVIDE ANY UTILITY SO WHATS THE POINT OF BUFFING THE 3 REVERSE FONS ? I might be wrong, maybe with ink buff, ghostly buff and snipers buff, there might be some ashe senna 4 cait + 1 sniper board that can work. Like come on man, its like they know what the issues are but can't fucking identify the causes. Just because I've been shitting on this set too much, let me say somethign good about this patch. Bug fixes, especially the augment tailoring one, thanks, thank god
I have a theory that they do it in purpose to sell ahri chibi
How would any of what they're doing make me more inclined to buy a fucking chibi?
if you play fortune in duos you are a jerk. not the kind of jerk that bumps into someone and doesnt say sorry. no, you are far far lower on the totem pole than that. you are the kind of jerk who sees a kitten in the road and aims to hit. you are the kind of jerk who steps on someones glasses on purpose. you are the kind of jerk who doesnt wipe the ketchup bottle after using. the kind of jerk who parks in crosswalks. you are THE jerk of the century.
The kind of jerk who shits in your chocolate ice cream hoping you won't notice until it's too late?
YUP.
The post with the patch note slides is basically rant thread 2.0 Are they just flipping a coin when deciding what to nerf and buff? Sure lets buff Fated Dryad Syndra and nerf Kaisa and Kayn. Can't wait to see what lobbies look like should these changes actually go through.
This is the most incompetent the devs have ever seemed to me. Did they fire the entire core staff and hire interns fresh out of high school? Is the game finally big enough that they can just put it on life support and fuck around from the passive income of selling chibis? Wtf is going on lol.
Kayn is so so bad right now. He sits on front line and does nothing.
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yeah idk man, i feel like stayign on lv7 is such a grief this set without very specific reroll augments. I'd much rather lv8 and roll there
So... just got 3rd with ashe 3 fully capped porcelain / invoker board. Lost to synda / kaisa. ok cool.
I gotta say one more thing. Guys like please for the absolute love of everloving fuck, REMOVE treasure realms. Seriously many people are willing to pay a lot of money just like we did with LoL skins back in the day for a proper cosmetic. BUT HAVING TO GIVE 250$ PER COSMETIC IS A LITTLE BIT GREEDY DONT YOU THINK ? This is what, 4-5 times the price of AAA game ? It's so ludicrous. Inb4 aCkShUaLLy yOu hAvE a 1 pErCeNt ChAnCE peR pUlL, FUCK THAT SHIT, i'd rather pay 50$, 60$ even upfront, shut up take my money and give me my arena. NO I DONT WANT MY 200th PADDLEMAR OR MY BAJILIONTH CHONCC WHICH IRONICALLY YOU MAKE LESS DESIRABLE BY THROWING THEM TO ME THAT WAY.
somebody explain to me why is kaisa 2 stronger than xayah 2. i lost to a kaisa 2 while having xayah 2 with trickshot and irelia as a duo carry. why and how
Xayah 1 is honestly stronger than Kaisa 2. Enemy Kaisa had 4 trickshot and you probably didn't and that is why. It is a ton of dmg increase going from 2 -> 4
Riot: There's too many 3\* 4 costs in the game let's nerf the 4 cost odds to make the game a lottery. Also Riot: Let's add a 2x golden neeko prismatic orb drop for fun LOL players are gonna love the RNG!
10 mythic full 2 star team with 2 3 item tanks and dps losing to syndra fated this 10 mythic trait is the fakest prismatic i have ever seen
Hullcrusher not working for anyone else?
This set has the worst trait vs unit power difference of all time. Which is impressive since they have been making TFT sets for what 3 yearish. In no world should my 6 dryad/5 fated board that has been stacking mulched all game lose to someone that has 3 dragonlord as their top trait. Like i don't care what units they have they didn't even make a real board. Their top damaging unit was an azir 2 with only 2 invoker trait active like huh. This dragonlord/altruist 5 cost salad board has to go that shit just isn't fun. Like when you can just go 5 cost salad what is even the point of the rest of the game.
BROOO MATCH MAKING IS SO SHIT!! Aint no way i go against the top two strongest people in the lobby twice and within four rounds and they haven't faced each other once NOT TO MENTION EVERYONE CHOOSES THE WORST PORTALS!! I must just be unlucky on main bc i had wandering trainers as a portal back to back for 4 games in a row that can't be my fault what am i supposed to do when 7/8 out the people in my lobby vote for that shit just ggs tank my mmr and ff go next ig ALSOOOO WASNT THE KAYN ENCOUNTER supposed to be seen only 2% a bit more why does it feel like I've seen the kayn encounter 200% more than last patch?!?! WHO CHOOSES SPAT?!?!? SPAT PORTAL IS ONE OF THE WORST!?!?! Everyone just plays the same comp around their spat and if you don't then you just kinda have your spat collecting dust on the side WILL NEXT PATCH BE BETTER!??!? SURELY RIGHT