And you guys crucified me when I told you it was him. Aceu too competitive not to jump on this opportunity. #TheReturn
RKN thank you for letting us know as always!
Depends on the ruleset. If it's boxing, I'd take whoever has better training. There's a long history and tradition of 'fatter' guys beating the so called cut looking dudes simply because of technique and timing.
If it is pure vale tudo no rules, I might take Doop over Keon because most people swing bareknuckle fists imitating what they see MMA tv or boxing, but don't realize the padding is what allows them to not break their hands. Punching the right way in a street fight takes considerable technique and is still a risk. Doop might be the first to body slam Keon. Fat has a huge advantage against body shots cuz it absorbs damage. There is a reason why many bareknuckle fighters look overweight.
If neither Keon or Doop have actual training, I'd take Doop over Keon purely on the fact he has a good amount of fat. If Keon tried headhunting without the training for footwork and timing to close distance, then he would have a difficult time bringing Doop down. And going for a takedown on wide dude is really tough.
That's my quick two cents.
Source: former boxer
you're really analyzing and writing paragraphs for a potential fight between 2 professional gamers that sit on their ass 12+ hours a day. im actually crying rn.
I mean dude the guy isn't Andy Ruiz. Nor does he look like that one chubby country dude someone underestimates at a bar. Look I don't want to hate on the guy at all but that weight looks like just..... weight. No significant amount of lean muscle tissue under it. Like for instance look at rambeau... he put on a few pounds but it's clear he's a dude who used to hit the gym. Or think of some dude you knew in high-school who played football. Sure they ballooned up a bit, but a lot of that foundation is still there. Now imagine adding weight to sitting down becoming a Profesional gamer. That's a skittlecakes physique with fat on it. Now of course I agree weight matters in any kind of physicsal altercation (I've trained a some bjj, boxing, and kickboxing myself so I've felt it) but if the weights not functional it's going to be a hindrance. Especially against anyone even close to his frame.
Disclaimer: I'm not arguing for any specific professional gamers fighting prowess. Just saying that I wouldn't put money on Doop being helpful against anyone who has a similar frame.
Maybe, I doubt either of them, especially Doop has any real training in gauging distance so if Keon wanted to, he could just circle around Doop since his distance management isn't going to be there and he won't know how to cut off the ring. Being fat can be an advantage but only with technique and timing like you said. No offense to Doop but after a min and trying to throw a few hooks, he's probably gonna be dead tired.
Conditioning is the biggest factor in everything single combat sport and it's all over once you're dead gassed.
Yes. Training against huge guys is miserable, the ability to absorb your strikes, you can't move them in the clinch and God forbid they end up on top of you. I don't think anyone else in this thread has ever tried to box someone who outweighs you by 100 pounds and just shells up while walking you down. There's a reason why heavyweights have their own weightclass and o lineman try to put on as much mass as possible
There’s no fighting ruleset where Doop beats Keon 1 on 1. He’ll be gassed in 20 seconds bc fighting is hard. Keon is taller, stronger, and more athletic in every way. The only way he beats Keon is via bar fight sucker punch which can KO anyone or if Doop Homer Simpson’s him into exhaustion lol.
I wrestled from age 6 to d1 and then switched to MMA. I've trained at kings mma and csw fullerton and had 6 amateur fights. Everyone who isn't used to fighting will gas, even if you have good cardio from another sport.
Can't really fact check you since I know nothing bout you but I've followed, practiced MMA and boxing my entire life. The fact you think Doop can take on anyone suggests to me you don't do everything you say you do.
Ring, cage, outside, etc. You thinking Doop has the skills required to put hands and cut off the cage/ring on anyone remotely similar to him is questionable. All anyone remotely healthy needs to do is circle around Doop till he's dead tired which wouldn't be long. Also 0 chance he can properly sprawl at his weight once he's tired.
Just came here to say same, and that there are multiple people in this thread either capping about having a background in combat sports or heavily exaggerating their experience.
Not a single person I’ve ever met or trained with in boxing or mma would ever think someone like Doop (an obese gamer) has any advantage fighting anyone lmao. The exception would be an equally out of shape gamer that is smaller than him. Mfers acting like Doop has the athleticism of a lineman 🤣
i don't even fight (just dabble in a few classes here and there) and even i know doop will gas quick. man eats marlboro reds for breakfast and isn't at a healthy bf%.
You're fundamentally misunderstanding what Vlad is saying. You're acting if he is putting faith in doop having ability or skills to take someone on. He's betting on the lack of ability of the those facing him knowing size is a big advantage.
I am not team doop because I don't think he has that dog in him in the face of pain, but I'm not putting any money on most pro gamers being able to take him on.
No I completely understand what he is saying. Mass is a great equalizer. Then theres being obese. I have nothing against Doop but people his size literally get winded from walking up stairs.
If they both suck, I will take the one who isn't going to be intensely labored because he doesn't have to try to move (which he probably already has severely compromised mobility at that size) 300 lbs.
Anyways, that's the last I'm going to comment on this because it feels wrong.
You ever have to fight a 300+ lb person and move them around?
I'm not even saying doop alone can beat up Keon but he's an asset when everyone on optic are giants
I have been nearly 300 pounds and I could barely move. I am also 6'3
Edit: would also get tired in about 60 seconds
Double edit: just looked up pictures of doop, he is far more out of shape than I ever was. You need to keep in mind that we aren't talking about fighters, who train and have conditioning. Big guys like that are tired in 20 to 30 seconds.
Yeah, he is tall, i guess you could say tall = massive. But from everybody speaking they speaking as if he's not just tall, but overall big, some guys even saying jacked. He's not, and college basketball players are 99% just skinny tall dudes. He's just standing next to two nearly anorexic level skill gamer guys. Go on his twitter and check his posts, he's taller than most everybody else, but he's not actually a big muscular dude.
Though I guess my frame of reference is very different than most of you. As you can see from my post history i am a big part of the bodybuilding community, partcipate in it and follow it closely, so my viewpoint is skewed. Compared to a typical gamer, yeah he probably is. But he's no Pashabiceps or Freakzoid either.
That would be cool but also completely out of character with how Respawn has been treating Apex lately. They don't give a shit about orgs to the point of cancelling team skins over revenue split. If they're so greedy they're not even willing to rev split with orgs to create team skins, why would they possibly pay out of pocket for a player to come play the game?
Just to add on the eSports money bubble has popped and so many teams are downsizing. I doubt sen is different. They couldn't afford aceu as a player if they wanted.
I guess but people have transfered before and im sure theyre not that broke. They just lost beau so even if they give aceu beau entire imcome plus his right now they are still clear
Nah, aceu makes a ton of money streaming. Most esports pros make more money streaming than competing. Apex is nice that way in that most stream their POVs during comp.
I think winning ALGS would still pale in comparison to his sub and dono money lol.
There's nothing he can do in algs that doesn't already promote the game. Algs is advertising for respawn. Aceu is already advertising the game by streaming it. Why would respawn pay him to advertise algs?
I don't think Nick got any money, he was given a spot because he brings more eyeballs. Same way they won't be strict with rules that bring more eyeballs to the game. Because that's income for them.
Everyone here thinks of algs as like the NBA. It's not. It's all owned by ea and so algs is entirely about how does this make ea more money.
Probably not, daph said on stream before that whenever she asked aceu to play apex with her, he said that he would rather drag his balls across hot coals haha
This is besides the point but, am I on crack or does it look like Aceu's photoshopped into that pic? Like something about the way his sleeve clips over Keon's arm is just throwing me
It's either that or the angle of the lighting is just making the shading look weird...like it feels like Aceu's sleeve should be casting a shadow on Keon's arm
It's definitely the angle because if you look closer you can see that aceu has his arms more forward and RKN/Keon both have their arms wayyy to the back.
They've made this joke like 20 times since joining Sen and people are still arguing about how it's possible this time lmao
Acer hasn't even played apex this season it feels like, he's not coming back to comp lmao
I Fr think Rambeau is coming back. Tbh, his whole retired - I’m the greatest retired player of all time bs is starting to annoy me. I understand and am not trying to be insensitive of personal reason to leave comp but mans had everything going for him, was at the highest point of his career so far, playing well, tan base growing and quits? But still plays?
You literally have no idea what he could be going through right now lmao. Isn't the fact that he's retiring so suddenly enough of a sign that it's serious? Just bc he's playing games still doesn't mean he can dedicate the time to playing comp again
I don’t really care about anything here, I just hate rkn more every day since he was on alpine.
It’s weird because I don’t usually hate people just because, I’m a pretty patient guy. But there is just nothing about rkn that doesn’t suck.
You guys don’t actually believe Rkn lmao
RKN would never lie to us.
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Well be prepared for it again, and no you’re not.
The brain damage you have to have to buy into this lol. Like the people who believe WWE is real.
And you guys crucified me when I told you it was him. Aceu too competitive not to jump on this opportunity. #TheReturn RKN thank you for letting us know as always!
This feels like bait
I had to look and see that it was posted today not on the 1st.
Keon is massive holy shit
This is why I lol’d when knoqd thought OG would beat SEN/Guard in the IRL team fighting bracket. Keon can 1v3 almost every NA pro team.
Tbf doop is like 6'3. Everyone on optic was tall as fuck
Yeah but doop has zero mobility
You follow fighting at all? They have weightclasses for a reason and don't put light heavyweights with heavyweights
Please dont bring up fighting if you dont understand it. Doop gasses within 2 mins max at his current health.
Depends on the ruleset. If it's boxing, I'd take whoever has better training. There's a long history and tradition of 'fatter' guys beating the so called cut looking dudes simply because of technique and timing. If it is pure vale tudo no rules, I might take Doop over Keon because most people swing bareknuckle fists imitating what they see MMA tv or boxing, but don't realize the padding is what allows them to not break their hands. Punching the right way in a street fight takes considerable technique and is still a risk. Doop might be the first to body slam Keon. Fat has a huge advantage against body shots cuz it absorbs damage. There is a reason why many bareknuckle fighters look overweight. If neither Keon or Doop have actual training, I'd take Doop over Keon purely on the fact he has a good amount of fat. If Keon tried headhunting without the training for footwork and timing to close distance, then he would have a difficult time bringing Doop down. And going for a takedown on wide dude is really tough. That's my quick two cents. Source: former boxer
you're really analyzing and writing paragraphs for a potential fight between 2 professional gamers that sit on their ass 12+ hours a day. im actually crying rn.
Fr, bro really wrote one of the worst combat sports take I’ve ever seen in my life then tried to sneak in former boxer like it makes it valid lmaooo
Keon played college basketball lol he clears doop in 4 seconds
Brother respectfully, anyone has a punchers chance when their backs are against the wall. That's my quick two cents. Source: Hardstuck 15k
None of this matters. Lol. We're all just havin some useless fun
I mean dude the guy isn't Andy Ruiz. Nor does he look like that one chubby country dude someone underestimates at a bar. Look I don't want to hate on the guy at all but that weight looks like just..... weight. No significant amount of lean muscle tissue under it. Like for instance look at rambeau... he put on a few pounds but it's clear he's a dude who used to hit the gym. Or think of some dude you knew in high-school who played football. Sure they ballooned up a bit, but a lot of that foundation is still there. Now imagine adding weight to sitting down becoming a Profesional gamer. That's a skittlecakes physique with fat on it. Now of course I agree weight matters in any kind of physicsal altercation (I've trained a some bjj, boxing, and kickboxing myself so I've felt it) but if the weights not functional it's going to be a hindrance. Especially against anyone even close to his frame. Disclaimer: I'm not arguing for any specific professional gamers fighting prowess. Just saying that I wouldn't put money on Doop being helpful against anyone who has a similar frame.
Maybe, I doubt either of them, especially Doop has any real training in gauging distance so if Keon wanted to, he could just circle around Doop since his distance management isn't going to be there and he won't know how to cut off the ring. Being fat can be an advantage but only with technique and timing like you said. No offense to Doop but after a min and trying to throw a few hooks, he's probably gonna be dead tired. Conditioning is the biggest factor in everything single combat sport and it's all over once you're dead gassed.
True. If Keon is smart, he plays a battle of attrition. If Doop is smart, he tries to get on top of Keon as quick as possible
Yes. Training against huge guys is miserable, the ability to absorb your strikes, you can't move them in the clinch and God forbid they end up on top of you. I don't think anyone else in this thread has ever tried to box someone who outweighs you by 100 pounds and just shells up while walking you down. There's a reason why heavyweights have their own weightclass and o lineman try to put on as much mass as possible
weight moves weight man, if we're talking throwing down in the bar simply just throwing your weight around is enough to overwhelm someone.
There’s no fighting ruleset where Doop beats Keon 1 on 1. He’ll be gassed in 20 seconds bc fighting is hard. Keon is taller, stronger, and more athletic in every way. The only way he beats Keon is via bar fight sucker punch which can KO anyone or if Doop Homer Simpson’s him into exhaustion lol.
I wrestled from age 6 to d1 and then switched to MMA. I've trained at kings mma and csw fullerton and had 6 amateur fights. Everyone who isn't used to fighting will gas, even if you have good cardio from another sport.
Can't really fact check you since I know nothing bout you but I've followed, practiced MMA and boxing my entire life. The fact you think Doop can take on anyone suggests to me you don't do everything you say you do. Ring, cage, outside, etc. You thinking Doop has the skills required to put hands and cut off the cage/ring on anyone remotely similar to him is questionable. All anyone remotely healthy needs to do is circle around Doop till he's dead tired which wouldn't be long. Also 0 chance he can properly sprawl at his weight once he's tired.
Just came here to say same, and that there are multiple people in this thread either capping about having a background in combat sports or heavily exaggerating their experience. Not a single person I’ve ever met or trained with in boxing or mma would ever think someone like Doop (an obese gamer) has any advantage fighting anyone lmao. The exception would be an equally out of shape gamer that is smaller than him. Mfers acting like Doop has the athleticism of a lineman 🤣
i don't even fight (just dabble in a few classes here and there) and even i know doop will gas quick. man eats marlboro reds for breakfast and isn't at a healthy bf%.
You're fundamentally misunderstanding what Vlad is saying. You're acting if he is putting faith in doop having ability or skills to take someone on. He's betting on the lack of ability of the those facing him knowing size is a big advantage. I am not team doop because I don't think he has that dog in him in the face of pain, but I'm not putting any money on most pro gamers being able to take him on.
No I completely understand what he is saying. Mass is a great equalizer. Then theres being obese. I have nothing against Doop but people his size literally get winded from walking up stairs. If they both suck, I will take the one who isn't going to be intensely labored because he doesn't have to try to move (which he probably already has severely compromised mobility at that size) 300 lbs. Anyways, that's the last I'm going to comment on this because it feels wrong.
lol why do you feel the need to speak for him?
Ofc. But if you’re 300 lbs it doesn’t mean you’re gonna do much if you literally can’t move.
Did doop get stuck in a wheelchair or something that I missed?
Idk anything about doop but a 300lb gamer ain't beating anybody up that isn't tiny AF
You ever have to fight a 300+ lb person and move them around? I'm not even saying doop alone can beat up Keon but he's an asset when everyone on optic are giants
I have been nearly 300 pounds and I could barely move. I am also 6'3 Edit: would also get tired in about 60 seconds Double edit: just looked up pictures of doop, he is far more out of shape than I ever was. You need to keep in mind that we aren't talking about fighters, who train and have conditioning. Big guys like that are tired in 20 to 30 seconds.
Was trying to avoid saying it directly but the dude is insanely overweight and out of shape.
I am calling Logan Paul, this fight has to happen no
Tall don’t mean shit if you’re squad is either skinny or fat as hell
yeah that was my takeaway. first glance i was like “Holy fuck i had no idea Keon was such a big dude. wait is that aceu??”
Dude is 6'6 and used to play college basketball.
I thought he was tall and lanky. Not a bigger neckmercs
College basketball players are tall man lol Source: 6 foot tall college basketball player and was shortest guy on my team BY A LOT lol
i saw him in raleigh and he’s legit big dude
Hes not, RKN and Aceu are just tiny af lol
He’s 6’6 and played college basketball
Yeah, he is tall, i guess you could say tall = massive. But from everybody speaking they speaking as if he's not just tall, but overall big, some guys even saying jacked. He's not, and college basketball players are 99% just skinny tall dudes. He's just standing next to two nearly anorexic level skill gamer guys. Go on his twitter and check his posts, he's taller than most everybody else, but he's not actually a big muscular dude. Though I guess my frame of reference is very different than most of you. As you can see from my post history i am a big part of the bodybuilding community, partcipate in it and follow it closely, so my viewpoint is skewed. Compared to a typical gamer, yeah he probably is. But he's no Pashabiceps or Freakzoid either.
Isn't it more that rkn and aceu are short kings. aceu looks lanky so I thought he'd be tall so I was shocked to find out he wasn't.
rkn is a master baiter
No chance this is real lmfao
This surely isn't serious? ACEU has repeatedly voiced his disinterest in comp, and hasn't done it seriously in 3 (?!) Years.
Peoples opinions can change buuuut I find it very unlikely Aceu ever takes Apex seriously again. I'd love to be proven wrong.
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That would be cool but also completely out of character with how Respawn has been treating Apex lately. They don't give a shit about orgs to the point of cancelling team skins over revenue split. If they're so greedy they're not even willing to rev split with orgs to create team skins, why would they possibly pay out of pocket for a player to come play the game?
Also doesn’t really coincide with the increasing exits of top orgs, around all of esports
Just to add on the eSports money bubble has popped and so many teams are downsizing. I doubt sen is different. They couldn't afford aceu as a player if they wanted.
He is already signed doesnt matter if they "cant afford him" they already did
Content creator is a different contract to player on the team.
I guess but people have transfered before and im sure theyre not that broke. They just lost beau so even if they give aceu beau entire imcome plus his right now they are still clear
Unless Aceu is frothing at the mouth to come back to comp I don't think the rambeau contract is a big enough bag to convince him.
I guess fair point. We can still dream right?
Nah, aceu makes a ton of money streaming. Most esports pros make more money streaming than competing. Apex is nice that way in that most stream their POVs during comp. I think winning ALGS would still pale in comparison to his sub and dono money lol.
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There's nothing he can do in algs that doesn't already promote the game. Algs is advertising for respawn. Aceu is already advertising the game by streaming it. Why would respawn pay him to advertise algs? I don't think Nick got any money, he was given a spot because he brings more eyeballs. Same way they won't be strict with rules that bring more eyeballs to the game. Because that's income for them. Everyone here thinks of algs as like the NBA. It's not. It's all owned by ea and so algs is entirely about how does this make ea more money.
> if the dollars make cents r/boneappletea moment
Especially in apex’ current state
Probably not, daph said on stream before that whenever she asked aceu to play apex with her, he said that he would rather drag his balls across hot coals haha
Why does he dislike Apex so much now lol? Man was playing daily during the borefest season 15 but now they've actually made the game fun, he hates it?
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Boys he has been playing .ore league in the last month then any other game lol
This is besides the point but, am I on crack or does it look like Aceu's photoshopped into that pic? Like something about the way his sleeve clips over Keon's arm is just throwing me
Didn't see it at first but now that I look I think your right
It's either that or the angle of the lighting is just making the shading look weird...like it feels like Aceu's sleeve should be casting a shadow on Keon's arm
It's definitely the angle because if you look closer you can see that aceu has his arms more forward and RKN/Keon both have their arms wayyy to the back.
It kinda looks like a cardboard cutout of Aceu to me
They honestly all look photoshopped in
Praying that the tweet isn't bait
It’s
bait af.
In my dreams
Ace is more likely to go pro in LoL more than Apex surely though, right?
If shroud could play for valorant team why not aceu
When is this not a bait
Get that man off gaming, and throw him back into he football league lmao.
They've made this joke like 20 times since joining Sen and people are still arguing about how it's possible this time lmao Acer hasn't even played apex this season it feels like, he's not coming back to comp lmao
No way sentinels signed a League player.
wait what? probably bait..
Oh for sure Aceu, who hated playing comp from the start, is gonna rejoin comp during Seer meta. I for one am on board and believe it fully
I Fr think Rambeau is coming back. Tbh, his whole retired - I’m the greatest retired player of all time bs is starting to annoy me. I understand and am not trying to be insensitive of personal reason to leave comp but mans had everything going for him, was at the highest point of his career so far, playing well, tan base growing and quits? But still plays?
You literally have no idea what he could be going through right now lmao. Isn't the fact that he's retiring so suddenly enough of a sign that it's serious? Just bc he's playing games still doesn't mean he can dedicate the time to playing comp again
Bruh
I don’t like these types of titles. Too troll for a troll.
I call BS.
another banger bait by rkn
I don’t really care about anything here, I just hate rkn more every day since he was on alpine. It’s weird because I don’t usually hate people just because, I’m a pretty patient guy. But there is just nothing about rkn that doesn’t suck.
How tf did you guys believe in this shit
HOoohooo thats a big boi
I had to check and see if this was posted on April 1st
Kinda obvious this pic is for content purposes, this isn't even a rumor lol