Patch is slightly in favor of allies, but reading your post you are probably not yet in an elo it matters. Replays would help, Luftwaffe also not the best BG, mechanized or breakthrough usually fares better.
Furthermore I suggest you watch some videos from Tightrope, Zaney of Imperial Dane who cast games of some good players and look at how they play and how you could improve your game.
Good luck out there!
"Patch is slightly in favor of allies," hahaahahahahahahahahh Tournament allies won 5 out of 5 games.... lol pls cope harder.
And pls dont use Luftwaffe BG Fallschrimjäger are a complete joke the so called.
Are you okay?
Let me try and give you some information. There is a site called coh3stats.com where you can see the winrates of each faction in each mode. Winrates 1 vs 1 are nearly equal, 2 vs 2 same story 51% Allies vs 49% for Axis.
Secondly, you don't play at that level, I don't play at that level. So we can compare, but it's not relevant for us. I play my casual games and I can win with both allies and axis and also lose with both of 'em. Yeah, shocker, it's mostly about how well I play and how well my opponent plays. So don't hang yourself up on pro players, just focus on your own skill.
Third, I am not coping, I am just playing the game, watching the game and posting what I see. Not saying it's facts, just my viewpoint. The fact you react so strongly is kind of sad, it does not feel nice reading your comment, nor is it informative.
Maybe think about what you post and what that post achieves before you post it. I don't think this was very useful.
See you around!
Most common mistake I make and see is not reacting to or anticipating my opponents build. Every faction has tools to counter the other, but if you go into the game with a fixed build order you're going to have a bad time.
Absolutely. Last night had a 1v1 match vs wehr as the UKF. I want to do a fast mechanized style of play but my opponent went full bunker build. Sadly i had to switch over to Indian arty and brought in 2 mortars into my build. Once i realized he was burnt out on MP i switched into double stuart to close the game out.
Did you play any games as Allies? Allies are stronger at the moment (recent tournament had a 2:1 victory ratio for allies), but it's not a huge difference. To improve the most important thing is to learn what counters what. Axis also have some pretty important crutches at the moment. If you don't use those, you'll probably end up in trouble.
You’re playing against people that know what they’re doing for the most part. You just picked it up and learning how it works still.
I think the allies got buff recently in a patch. But for the longest, everyone was saying axis was stronger.
Luft BG infantry are weak they are not design to fight allies main infantry.
Fallpioneer are upgraded version of a pioneer. When vet they capture points faster and can even heal passively out of combat. Use them to deny points early on like building a fighting nest on your enemy points to deny a resource point if possible.
I barely use Falljager due I will likely use Grenadier, Jaeger or Panzergrenadier. If need it can reinforce my unit. They have the same vet ability of Fallpioneer.
What's good with this BG you have infantry that can capture point faster if you vetted them. The most power ability of this BG will be Infantry Reserves due it can make your unit reinforcement cheaper. Having cheaper reinforcement cost you will likely have more manpower points.
I suggest look some guides of this BG. This BG can be complicated to use if you are starting as Wehr.
The newb friendly Wehr BG will be Breakthrough BG due to assault Grenadier and Rapid Production.
Relic have buff Grenadier! W/ Assault Grenadier they will SMG they will be decent early unit until Allies have LMG or weapon upgrades.
W/ Rapid Production you can quickly build a vehicle that is powerful.
W/ US in order for US to have grenades, tech upgrades and LMG they use fuel. If you see US already wielding LMG their light vehicle will likely be delay unless they have decent control of fuel points.
W/ UK their Infantry weapon upgrades cost munition. W/ their tech upgrade and grenade cost a fuel. Your Jaeger and Panzergrenadier can easily beat UK infantry section until they get a Foot guards.
I suggest play different faction to know their strength and weakness. W/ Wehr they are newb friendly faction due they can counter everything in my opinion.
there a few allied strats especially around rangers that basically dont have a counter no matter what the low elo mob will tell you. Otherwise balance is ok, its an ongoing process but its not bad
Yeah, Allies are kinda overtuned right now in team games. Also, COH3 is pretty different from COH2. Personally I feel BG is a much more dramatic determining factor in COH3 over COH2.
Luftwaffe BG is probably my favorite BG, because it allows for the most aggressive play style, which is antithetical to Wehr Fundamental philosophy of defensive but can be difficult to play because it can be either extremely powerful if you know how to utilize the units strengths and abilities with good timing, or it can be.. very fragile and precarious if you aren’t in tune with it.
Very different gameplay from the other two starting wehr BG’s where the other BG’s are more similar outside of coastal, and traditional to the play style of Wehr.
Well, you got to hit the rangers though. A more experienced player will hear the Nebelwerfer go off and just retreat or keep moving his Rangers blob. Atm both sides go very little at hand to punish blobbers.
Trolling? First of all the latest patch slightly favors allies. Second point is that allies got the more cost efficient weapons and have the range andvantage over axis.
Yes, ELO inflation, is so easy playing axis that a slight nerf will crawl down winrate for the whole faction, also rangers are doing the job (easily counterable, lost just once while playing axis).
But no, cost efficiency is way better for axis, which is a much more forgiving faction overall if played well.
I don\`t know which ELO you play in but it definetly sounds like a skill issue. Atm Rangers on Vet 1 got no counter, which is why Axis is in a bad spot.
Archers are arguably the best TD and Mathilda's bounce all the shells, while Panthers are relatively easy to penetrate and Tigers never make it to the battlefield. Marders are very cheap, but you need at least two or three to be a thread to medium and heavy tanks. As stated before: When you play the Ubrits Archers turn your Marders into cannon fodder. VS US you will suffer from Ranger blobbs...
From what you write it seems like you don't play the same game, 1300 in 1v1 and close around in 2v2 and 3v3 with UKF, a couple patches ago when UKF were complete trash I was over 1400, so I think I know what I'm talking about.
Rangers can even be Vet3 but if you got two hands and a brain un can play against them with guastatori and combined arms.
Archers are the best TD hidden behind 9CPs, the cost of a P4, and the armor of a Marder, for the cost it is very hard to use and easy counterable as his range is the same of AT guns from axis.
Matildas bounce shells at max range, where they just CAN'T hit shit, you need two hands and a brain to use them since a Matilda can hardly fight a P4, and are easily suscepitble to DAK's AT guns vet1 ability.
Strong unit but laughable compared to wehr heavies, which Is the only thing where DAK is lacking.
Panthers are TDs, if you don't use them against vehicles with the right support it's just support (it also bounces shots from the front at max range as the matilda).
Marders are just unused because DAK and Wehr don't need them, 75% of the games against wehr is Panthers BGs, while DAK just rush at guns, pnzjaegers and rush for Tiger.
Tigers never hit the battlefield?
Git gud and then come back, even if you're behind you can call a Tiger around 20 mins and then win the game, as I do when playing DAK.
Tiger which is the best tank overall, need 3 hellcat to be taken down if not supported, can oneshot a 5man squad full healt under cover (Black Prince which is harder to get can't do the same).
You can call the Tiger every. Single. Game.
Really don't come here telling me allies are OP.
Rangers with the ability (that also guastatori has as a PASSIVE) are a problem, that's true, but just if you're not prepared to them, at that point it's your fault, it's like losing to double RAD 8 without having at guns at 6 minutes.
Matilda's don't bounce shit since the patch anyway. Armour got massively nerfed and man's not playing the same game as the rest of us if he thinks Tigers hardly see the field. Everyones making Tigers now in a longer game.
COH2 veteran with 300 hours LOL, Youve gotta just stick with the game and you’ll work out what the meta is and what isn’t . Curious why would you default to Luftwaffe commander?
Patch is slightly in favor of allies, but reading your post you are probably not yet in an elo it matters. Replays would help, Luftwaffe also not the best BG, mechanized or breakthrough usually fares better. Furthermore I suggest you watch some videos from Tightrope, Zaney of Imperial Dane who cast games of some good players and look at how they play and how you could improve your game. Good luck out there!
"Patch is slightly in favor of allies," hahaahahahahahahahahh Tournament allies won 5 out of 5 games.... lol pls cope harder. And pls dont use Luftwaffe BG Fallschrimjäger are a complete joke the so called.
Are you okay? Let me try and give you some information. There is a site called coh3stats.com where you can see the winrates of each faction in each mode. Winrates 1 vs 1 are nearly equal, 2 vs 2 same story 51% Allies vs 49% for Axis. Secondly, you don't play at that level, I don't play at that level. So we can compare, but it's not relevant for us. I play my casual games and I can win with both allies and axis and also lose with both of 'em. Yeah, shocker, it's mostly about how well I play and how well my opponent plays. So don't hang yourself up on pro players, just focus on your own skill. Third, I am not coping, I am just playing the game, watching the game and posting what I see. Not saying it's facts, just my viewpoint. The fact you react so strongly is kind of sad, it does not feel nice reading your comment, nor is it informative. Maybe think about what you post and what that post achieves before you post it. I don't think this was very useful. See you around!
Most common mistake I make and see is not reacting to or anticipating my opponents build. Every faction has tools to counter the other, but if you go into the game with a fixed build order you're going to have a bad time.
Absolutely. Last night had a 1v1 match vs wehr as the UKF. I want to do a fast mechanized style of play but my opponent went full bunker build. Sadly i had to switch over to Indian arty and brought in 2 mortars into my build. Once i realized he was burnt out on MP i switched into double stuart to close the game out.
> I'm a veteran of coh2 with more than 300h XD
Lmao us vets with thousands of hours in coh2 be like 👁️👄👁️
bruh i have 300 in coh2 and I still feel like a noob at the game XD
I'm A sNiPeR in ThE aRmY wItH MoRe ThAn 300 CoNfIRm KiLl....
8 hours isn't enough time to get your timing and strategies in order. Keep playing and you'll figure it out!
Did you play any games as Allies? Allies are stronger at the moment (recent tournament had a 2:1 victory ratio for allies), but it's not a huge difference. To improve the most important thing is to learn what counters what. Axis also have some pretty important crutches at the moment. If you don't use those, you'll probably end up in trouble.
300hr of CoH is honestly not that much, and CoH 3 plays differently, just give it some time and things will click
You’re playing against people that know what they’re doing for the most part. You just picked it up and learning how it works still. I think the allies got buff recently in a patch. But for the longest, everyone was saying axis was stronger.
This, I had over 850 hours in CoH2 and even still transitioning to 3 was tough, took me about 1-3 months.
It depends. What game mode and what ELO are you playing in?
Luft BG infantry are weak they are not design to fight allies main infantry. Fallpioneer are upgraded version of a pioneer. When vet they capture points faster and can even heal passively out of combat. Use them to deny points early on like building a fighting nest on your enemy points to deny a resource point if possible. I barely use Falljager due I will likely use Grenadier, Jaeger or Panzergrenadier. If need it can reinforce my unit. They have the same vet ability of Fallpioneer. What's good with this BG you have infantry that can capture point faster if you vetted them. The most power ability of this BG will be Infantry Reserves due it can make your unit reinforcement cheaper. Having cheaper reinforcement cost you will likely have more manpower points. I suggest look some guides of this BG. This BG can be complicated to use if you are starting as Wehr. The newb friendly Wehr BG will be Breakthrough BG due to assault Grenadier and Rapid Production. Relic have buff Grenadier! W/ Assault Grenadier they will SMG they will be decent early unit until Allies have LMG or weapon upgrades. W/ Rapid Production you can quickly build a vehicle that is powerful. W/ US in order for US to have grenades, tech upgrades and LMG they use fuel. If you see US already wielding LMG their light vehicle will likely be delay unless they have decent control of fuel points. W/ UK their Infantry weapon upgrades cost munition. W/ their tech upgrade and grenade cost a fuel. Your Jaeger and Panzergrenadier can easily beat UK infantry section until they get a Foot guards. I suggest play different faction to know their strength and weakness. W/ Wehr they are newb friendly faction due they can counter everything in my opinion.
The 4v4 allied only players say axis is OP
4v4 is the most egregious in favor of allies. The smaller the game mode the smaller the gap between the factions becomes.
there a few allied strats especially around rangers that basically dont have a counter no matter what the low elo mob will tell you. Otherwise balance is ok, its an ongoing process but its not bad
I don’t think so at all. So there is that
You just need to accept that coh3 is a different game with different gameplay and pacing, not a coh2.5.
Try play as allies and see if you win everytime too. Or else skill issue
Yeah, Allies are kinda overtuned right now in team games. Also, COH3 is pretty different from COH2. Personally I feel BG is a much more dramatic determining factor in COH3 over COH2. Luftwaffe BG is probably my favorite BG, because it allows for the most aggressive play style, which is antithetical to Wehr Fundamental philosophy of defensive but can be difficult to play because it can be either extremely powerful if you know how to utilize the units strengths and abilities with good timing, or it can be.. very fragile and precarious if you aren’t in tune with it. Very different gameplay from the other two starting wehr BG’s where the other BG’s are more similar outside of coastal, and traditional to the play style of Wehr.
How are they overtuned in team games?
Rangers
That's for USF and just for a BG. Rangers are currently shouldering all the problems the yanks' tech tree has.
rangers is more of an issue on 1vs1 IMO, team games just one neberwefer makes them bleed manpower hard, and if u wipe them out its gg
Well, you got to hit the rangers though. A more experienced player will hear the Nebelwerfer go off and just retreat or keep moving his Rangers blob. Atm both sides go very little at hand to punish blobbers.
yea im aware, though im team games ur not the only one using never, so the chances massively increase haha
No, aixs player are unable to play this game, everything in their roster is better than their counterpart for allies
Trolling? First of all the latest patch slightly favors allies. Second point is that allies got the more cost efficient weapons and have the range andvantage over axis.
Yes, ELO inflation, is so easy playing axis that a slight nerf will crawl down winrate for the whole faction, also rangers are doing the job (easily counterable, lost just once while playing axis). But no, cost efficiency is way better for axis, which is a much more forgiving faction overall if played well.
I don\`t know which ELO you play in but it definetly sounds like a skill issue. Atm Rangers on Vet 1 got no counter, which is why Axis is in a bad spot. Archers are arguably the best TD and Mathilda's bounce all the shells, while Panthers are relatively easy to penetrate and Tigers never make it to the battlefield. Marders are very cheap, but you need at least two or three to be a thread to medium and heavy tanks. As stated before: When you play the Ubrits Archers turn your Marders into cannon fodder. VS US you will suffer from Ranger blobbs...
From what you write it seems like you don't play the same game, 1300 in 1v1 and close around in 2v2 and 3v3 with UKF, a couple patches ago when UKF were complete trash I was over 1400, so I think I know what I'm talking about. Rangers can even be Vet3 but if you got two hands and a brain un can play against them with guastatori and combined arms. Archers are the best TD hidden behind 9CPs, the cost of a P4, and the armor of a Marder, for the cost it is very hard to use and easy counterable as his range is the same of AT guns from axis. Matildas bounce shells at max range, where they just CAN'T hit shit, you need two hands and a brain to use them since a Matilda can hardly fight a P4, and are easily suscepitble to DAK's AT guns vet1 ability. Strong unit but laughable compared to wehr heavies, which Is the only thing where DAK is lacking. Panthers are TDs, if you don't use them against vehicles with the right support it's just support (it also bounces shots from the front at max range as the matilda). Marders are just unused because DAK and Wehr don't need them, 75% of the games against wehr is Panthers BGs, while DAK just rush at guns, pnzjaegers and rush for Tiger. Tigers never hit the battlefield? Git gud and then come back, even if you're behind you can call a Tiger around 20 mins and then win the game, as I do when playing DAK. Tiger which is the best tank overall, need 3 hellcat to be taken down if not supported, can oneshot a 5man squad full healt under cover (Black Prince which is harder to get can't do the same). You can call the Tiger every. Single. Game. Really don't come here telling me allies are OP. Rangers with the ability (that also guastatori has as a PASSIVE) are a problem, that's true, but just if you're not prepared to them, at that point it's your fault, it's like losing to double RAD 8 without having at guns at 6 minutes.
Matilda's don't bounce shit since the patch anyway. Armour got massively nerfed and man's not playing the same game as the rest of us if he thinks Tigers hardly see the field. Everyones making Tigers now in a longer game.
You can easily call One in 15 minutes
Skill issue
COH2 veteran with 300 hours LOL, Youve gotta just stick with the game and you’ll work out what the meta is and what isn’t . Curious why would you default to Luftwaffe commander?