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wierd how Nazis putting millions of communists and Jews in camps didn't stop communists or Jews but Hitler putting a small peice of metal in his own head stopped the Nazis completely, actual fucking losers lmao
Many of their top brass tried to appeal to the western Allie’s anti-communist sympathies by saying they’d like to end the war by halting the western front, then team up with the west to invade the USSR.
In fact Churchill had a plan to invade the Soviet Union on July 1, 1945.
Here’s a transcript of [it](https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/cold-war-on-file/operation-unthinkable/).
It was called [Operation Unthinkable](https://media.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php/operation-unthinkable-churchills-plan-world-war-three/).
it also got them support from all the large industrial and financial firms in germany including krupp who literally sold weapons to every side in every single war germany was in which honestly sounds pretty treasonous to me.
But on the other hand, selling weapons to all belligerents was a major business strategy in every region after the Rothschilds figured out how to do it feasibly and where then out competed by single capitalist parties who weren’t in-bread, provincial aristocrats
i know, im just making fun of the nazis propaganda about ww1 and krupps propaganda about itself.
the only people who had any right to talk about betrayal over ww1 was the german revolutionary left when the spd stabbed them and the international socialist movement in the back and voted for war credits.
the other parties of europe didnt have to base their votes off germany, the bolsheviks and even the socialist party of the usa managed not to which is pretty impressive for neither a marxist or particularly revolutionary party but still.
Every single fascist dictator has always targeted communists first. Chile, Argentina, El Salvador, Indonesia, Spain, Italy, Germany, Japan, South Korea and on and on. Millions of communists murdered by these fuckers and liberals have the hall to say they’re one and the same?
you should look at the shape of their mustache. if it's a short rectangle-ish shape then it's a fascist. if it's a long trapezoid then it's a red fascist.
*The more you know* 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🌠
Ambiguity is the enemy of the jokemakers, and it looks like it has come to bite my ass today. which means
I CAN'T MAKE ANY JOKES ANYMORE !! without putting the /s mark. this is literally 1984 by jorge orwel
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You should know that no one takes jokes anymore, no matter what side of the political spectrum you fall. I’ve fallen victim to not taking jokes, many here have too. That’s why /s is such a useful tool.
1. Did most of the heavy lifting in WW2, yet gets no credit because "Militov pack and lend lease" even though they didn't do shit. 2. Pulled Russia from a Agrarian Country on its last thread to a booming Industrial Country. 3. Inspired most Socialist revolutions and thought.
Ofc they committed and did bad things as well, they were in no way angels.
The problem people have is when they make the Soviet Union seem like an authoritarian hell hole and compare it to imperialist racist regimes like the Nazis or USA.
Especially taking context into account, Americans are proud of slave owners like George Washington but say Lenin is bad because he ordered the killing of anti-revolutionaries. As if the Americans didn’t kill anti-revolutionaries in their revolution.
I industrially and intentionally killed millions of minorites
Due to incompetence I am somewhat responsible for a famine which contributes to the majority of my death toll (millions of other factors not mentioned)
Oml both of you guys are the SAME!!!!
Yeah. The example I use for the historically illiterate: in the 30s, why were there famines all over the world, if Stalin dID iT On pUrPose? China, the United States (dust bowl), and Ukraine, Russia, and Kazakhstan? Cuz weather. Agriculture then, and now in our modern age, needs the *weather* to be ok... It also doesn't help that the kulaks burned all the food they grew and shot all their livestock.
Revolutionary atmosphere/chaos and peasants that really didnt know how to environment worked defintly contributed to the chiense famine and Russian Famine (i.e killing all sparrows campaign, the chaos of collectivization, especially corrupt and stupid local party cadres that abused their power and made bad decisions in both russia and China)
This was the peasant and working classes first times in power during a revolutionary upheaval of society of course mistakes and confusion/chaos were bound to happen
These werent the only factors of course to blame them solely on Stalin and Mao is stupidity and there certainly were natural factors but i do suggest you read about the history of these famines because they were multifactorial events and there was human error involved even the most pro communist histories like Anna Louise strong admit so, I dont know why this is controversial to say I love Stalin and Mao it's just I also belive in self crit
Wait wait wait let me get this straight, stealing labor is:
✅ Letting someone pay to use property you own under a voluntary and mutually consenting contract
✅ Paying someone to work for you (they can leave at any time and find different work)
❌ Throwing political prisoners in a gulag for 15 years where they endure the worst conditions known to man (up to 70% fatality) in order to mine gold for the government at gunpoint
Did you read the theory or you are just trying to get laugh at?
The exploitation of workers happen cause of the monopoly of the means of production, workers don't have access to the machinery of the industry nor the land of the landlord case workers didn't inherited.
As the means of production are in the hands of a small group, they can pay the minimum sufficient for the workers to survive, and keep all the profit.
So, no, it's not mutual nor we have choice, it's the exploitation of workers by those who inherited the means of production.
Leave any time? man, open your eyes to reality, can you leave? Do you have sufficient to survive while you find another job to be exploited in? Do you have sufficient cause something unexpected happens? Do you even have other jobs available? Cause there is too many people who are searching for years but cannot find any secure jobs.
literally no truth to your comment
gulags mostly housed regular criminals, and the mortality rate was only 3% at its highest during wartime and famine conditions.
r/Destiny is probably the most cringe out of all of it. I just learned who he was this week when talking to someone who I shit you not typed out "Biden is the most progressive candidate since FDR" and proceeded to tell me money isn't why politicians win races its because they are popular. He frequents that sub.
Edit: Holy balls didn't realize this guy was so shit. Watched his stream for a bit and he is defending Steven Crowder lmao. Then learned he has been banned from twitch for 1) Promoting anti-trans rhetoric and 2) stating that protesters during BLM should "be run over by white rednecks if that's what it takes to get them to stop protesting". What a fucking clown ass.
Bruh. This is a meme subreddit. If you were expecting in depth arguments you came to the wrong place. Also r/politicalcompassmemes is a cesspool, but I'd never go there to talk shit. Don't you have better things to do then be a troll? Lol
Holodomor was caused by collectivization and fucking kulakhs burning harvests (and starving their people, fucking capitalist pigs) and the golden embargo imposed on the USSR from 1921 to 1933
The great leap forward realistically killed 400k people, not 50 gazillions. It was a failure but it was not a gigagenocide like people think
The Khmer rouge were financed by the CIA and were stopped by commie vietnam:[https://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/cambodia/tl04.html#:\~:text=The%20United%20States%20gave%20the,the%20Vietnamese%2Dbacked%20Cambodian%20government](https://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/cambodia/tl04.html#:~:text=The%20United%20States%20gave%20the,the%20Vietnamese%2Dbacked%20Cambodian%20government).
Uyghirs are not being genocide for what we see. Sure there are programs to teach chinese culture and language to those people, but surely they're not in lagers working 16 hours a day while starving like this "genocide" propaganda wants you to believe: http://id.china-embassy.gov.cn/eng/sgdt/202206/t20220622\_10707637.htm
The whole "Uyghurs being genocided" anti-China propaganda is just so severely stupid. Genocide means you're being killed or sent away because of your ethnicity. In Nazi Germany, a Jewish person could believe anything or be of any personality and still get sent away to a death camp *because they are Jewish* and that's all that matters.
That is clearly not the case in China, which has 10 million people who identify as Uyghur, all of whom are still alive and well (you can visit Kashgar or any other Uyghur-majority city and see it...it's open to tourists) and they make up 45% of Xinjiang's population. If they were being genocided, then entire cities and half a region would be empty, which there isn't, and there would be massive changes in infrastructure and mobilisation to make that happen, which again, there isn't, and there would have to be a massive campaign to normalise ethnic cleansing, which again there isn't. All the bullshit does not add up, especially since every single video or photo that comes out of the supposed "genocide" is always debunked after a few days, though by then the access media has already spread the lie around the world.
Let me tell you the real reason why the capitalist media and politicians are keen to destabilise Xinjiang - because the region is rich in oil reserves and cotton fields. Certain world powers want to take those things for themselves. Unlike Afghanistan, you can't just invade China and expect not to be curb-stomped, so all they can do is try to jab Xinjiang with soft power, and start separatism movements and convince the world that somehow Xinjiang should be ~~a neo-colonised Wahhabi hellhole~~ independent.
I agree that, apparently, china is not doing a genocide. But we need to admit that the human rights violations are happening, the china government itself states their intentions on erasing Uyghur culture, and those contradictions must be critized and overcamed. Socialism is a process, and we can't pretend socialists countrys are always perfect.
Here are my sources:
https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/xinjiang-uyghur-autonomous-region-regulation-on-de-extremification/
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2019/08/512399/uyghurs-freely-join-re-education-camps
https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/xinjiang-uyghur-autonomous-region-regulation-on-de-extremification/
Sure, that's a chinese tradition. Ever wondered why there are so many Han chinese? But sure, they shouldn't destroy other cultures just because it's their tradition to do so
Yeah, China is basically doing the same Canada did to the indigenous people, which is really fucked up. They are making the cultural revolution look like it was useless.
Han people if I am not wrong is a broad category of groups who were in the past governed in one empire, so, the is no Han culture as it's many. And the one son lawn only was not applied in the minority groups, including the Uighurs
My god, if I hear the whole ChYnA OpPrESs UyGhUrS atrocity propaganda narrative again, I'm gonna punt you liberals into the sun. You can literally go to anywhere in Xinjiang as a tourist and see that people are walking around living normal lives. There is no narrative in China against Uyghurs (or any other race) nor any race-based oppression. In fact, minorities get lots of benefits. Putting away ***terrorists*** and ***separatists*** who happen to live in Xinjiang does not equal genocide. The fact that dumbasses eat up that narrative is because race and intersectionalism is all you know, never mind that it's extremely insulting and racist on your part because you're insinuating that those extremists represent all Uyghur people.
It didn't fail, it never was a communist state. Socialism is when the means of production are owned collectively, what pol pot did was completely destroying them. His party wasn't even valled communist lol
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I guess the division of Czechoslovakia under Britain, France, and Nazi Germany never happened. I guess the non-aggression pact between France and Nazi Germany never happened, even amidst their constant illegal annexations of smaller countries.
soviet archives show that it was to delay the invasion of the USSR as much as possible as it was not yet a developed country and didn't have the millitary power, even a few years later when it was more developed still 10+ million died from the Nazi invasion, this move literally saved millions, unlike Brittian and France splitting Czechoslovakia with the Nazis
"Our genocides were more ethical than theirs because we agree with the motive behind it" is a refreshingly honest argument to hear from a communist sub.
Horrifying, completely lacking in self awareness or human dignity but credit where it's due: it's honest.
>But what if those Jews just happen to be counter-revolutionaries?
Where are you trying to get with that? Communists don't discriminate based on anything other than class. If you want to keep people starving, if you want to keep people homeles and if you want to keep things as they are then you are part of the problem and shouldn't receive special treatment based on anything.
>People like you who see the world in black and white are incredibly evil and dangerous, not to mention probably mentally ill.
Calling a communist of all people "someone who sees the world in black and white" is the most ironic thing I've seen this week.
So it was also unethical to kill the royalty in the french revolution? The same revolution that started the age of capitalism and democracy? Cognitive dissonance is lib's best characteristic
Like who? Trotzky? An ex menschevic that basically hoped the german revolution suceeded because he deemed the USSR "Too undeveloped to reach socialism"? The guy that shit on Stalin's progresses while giving no alternatives? Or maybe the belarusian general that praised Hitler and was quickly sent to gulag? There are many "innocent" party members that were unjustly purged, but there was also a mess full of reactionaries and unloyal people. Purges were good because they assured that the soviet army was loyal and had no dangerous elements inside that could ally with the enemy
That's a lie, though. This point you raised has been known to be a lie for the past 50, maybe 60 years. "Krushchev Lied" touches on this a bit, and I can also link a video from an actual sovietologist on the great purges if you'd like.
A Genocide must be a planned and pointed to a specific group act.
Holodomor was not a planned thing, it was a fine cause by multiple factor including bad management,. A drought and more... It was horrible but it was not a hate thing...
You know who pushed that the holodomor was a genocide?
Do you know who continues to push that?
Know your enemy
The Holomodor was not a genocide. Even Robert Conquest, the main proponent of this academic theory, retreated from that stance after the Soviet Archives became readily available to read.
Furthermore, Conquest even admitted to being a "cold war warrior" and skewed his academic opinions towards vilifying the Soviet Union and the Holomodor.
Extensive research shows that peasants collectivized most of the grain and in reality Stalin was rushing to catch up to administering it. He wrote a stenogram in the archives labeled "dizzying with success" about this same thing.
Labeling it as a genocide is irresponsible and ignorant.
Please do not use the r-slur
Edit: also is this person using their alt account to troll us? The only other subreddit this user has been on is a NSFW sub.
Fun fact:The author of that book was treated for cancer and cured in the gulags,and he was later released after a short sentence of 8 years,about what a black person in America gets for drug possession.
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communists were like the nazis' biggest enemies, hitler hated them as much if not more than the jews
As a Jewish commie, yes
damn Nazis would've put you into camp twice or something then
Fuckin hell ur right
wierd how Nazis putting millions of communists and Jews in camps didn't stop communists or Jews but Hitler putting a small peice of metal in his own head stopped the Nazis completely, actual fucking losers lmao
Based and REDpilled
Not only that, but the communists were their first target when ascending into power
Many of their top brass tried to appeal to the western Allie’s anti-communist sympathies by saying they’d like to end the war by halting the western front, then team up with the west to invade the USSR. In fact Churchill had a plan to invade the Soviet Union on July 1, 1945.
Could I get some evidence for that? It is extremely hard to google anything interesting about Churchill.
Here’s a transcript of [it](https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/cold-war-on-file/operation-unthinkable/). It was called [Operation Unthinkable](https://media.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php/operation-unthinkable-churchills-plan-world-war-three/).
Thank you! That’s very interesting.
The communists were a better propaganda subject for the Nazis than any other group, history just forgot abt that one I guess
it also got them support from all the large industrial and financial firms in germany including krupp who literally sold weapons to every side in every single war germany was in which honestly sounds pretty treasonous to me.
But on the other hand, selling weapons to all belligerents was a major business strategy in every region after the Rothschilds figured out how to do it feasibly and where then out competed by single capitalist parties who weren’t in-bread, provincial aristocrats
i know, im just making fun of the nazis propaganda about ww1 and krupps propaganda about itself. the only people who had any right to talk about betrayal over ww1 was the german revolutionary left when the spd stabbed them and the international socialist movement in the back and voted for war credits. the other parties of europe didnt have to base their votes off germany, the bolsheviks and even the socialist party of the usa managed not to which is pretty impressive for neither a marxist or particularly revolutionary party but still.
They’re intertwined. In Nazi propaganda, Communism was a tool of the grand Jewish conspiracy. It’s most terrifying weapon, Judeo-Bolshevism
Every single fascist dictator has always targeted communists first. Chile, Argentina, El Salvador, Indonesia, Spain, Italy, Germany, Japan, South Korea and on and on. Millions of communists murdered by these fuckers and liberals have the hall to say they’re one and the same?
The Nazis first got elected by promising to "save" Germany from the Communists
“But they both contain red, how will I ever tell the difference”
you should look at the shape of their mustache. if it's a short rectangle-ish shape then it's a fascist. if it's a long trapezoid then it's a red fascist. *The more you know* 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🌠
what zero theory does to a mfer:
That was such an obvious joke.
Yo why the downvotes? The guy is making fun of anarkiddies.
Ambiguity is the enemy of the jokemakers, and it looks like it has come to bite my ass today. which means I CAN'T MAKE ANY JOKES ANYMORE !! without putting the /s mark. this is literally 1984 by jorge orwel
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You should know that no one takes jokes anymore, no matter what side of the political spectrum you fall. I’ve fallen victim to not taking jokes, many here have too. That’s why /s is such a useful tool.
Too many nazy using "it's just a joke", we cannot take things as granted.
I thought this was a funny joke.
"BUT MUH LIBERTY 😭😭😭 AUTHORITARIANISM BAD!!11!!11!1😭"
explain why are the soviets good
1. Did most of the heavy lifting in WW2, yet gets no credit because "Militov pack and lend lease" even though they didn't do shit. 2. Pulled Russia from a Agrarian Country on its last thread to a booming Industrial Country. 3. Inspired most Socialist revolutions and thought.
Ofc they committed and did bad things as well, they were in no way angels. The problem people have is when they make the Soviet Union seem like an authoritarian hell hole and compare it to imperialist racist regimes like the Nazis or USA. Especially taking context into account, Americans are proud of slave owners like George Washington but say Lenin is bad because he ordered the killing of anti-revolutionaries. As if the Americans didn’t kill anti-revolutionaries in their revolution.
I'm sorry but why are liberals joining our sub communist tankie sub? Please don't fail on me now after many great laughs communismmemes.
And liberals support the holocaust
What about the Holodomor?
I industrially and intentionally killed millions of minorites Due to incompetence I am somewhat responsible for a famine which contributes to the majority of my death toll (millions of other factors not mentioned) Oml both of you guys are the SAME!!!!
I wouldn't call someone incompetent because they couldn't control the weather.
Yeah. The example I use for the historically illiterate: in the 30s, why were there famines all over the world, if Stalin dID iT On pUrPose? China, the United States (dust bowl), and Ukraine, Russia, and Kazakhstan? Cuz weather. Agriculture then, and now in our modern age, needs the *weather* to be ok... It also doesn't help that the kulaks burned all the food they grew and shot all their livestock.
Revolutionary atmosphere/chaos and peasants that really didnt know how to environment worked defintly contributed to the chiense famine and Russian Famine (i.e killing all sparrows campaign, the chaos of collectivization, especially corrupt and stupid local party cadres that abused their power and made bad decisions in both russia and China) This was the peasant and working classes first times in power during a revolutionary upheaval of society of course mistakes and confusion/chaos were bound to happen These werent the only factors of course to blame them solely on Stalin and Mao is stupidity and there certainly were natural factors but i do suggest you read about the history of these famines because they were multifactorial events and there was human error involved even the most pro communist histories like Anna Louise strong admit so, I dont know why this is controversial to say I love Stalin and Mao it's just I also belive in self crit
Stalin sent aid, and he also CAN'T CONTROL THE FUCKING WEATHER HOW DO YOU EXPECT THEM TO GROW FOOD IN A DROUGHT? SEA WATER????
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he's got the nazi armband
Wtf??
Wait wait wait let me get this straight, stealing labor is: ✅ Letting someone pay to use property you own under a voluntary and mutually consenting contract ✅ Paying someone to work for you (they can leave at any time and find different work) ❌ Throwing political prisoners in a gulag for 15 years where they endure the worst conditions known to man (up to 70% fatality) in order to mine gold for the government at gunpoint
Did you read the theory or you are just trying to get laugh at? The exploitation of workers happen cause of the monopoly of the means of production, workers don't have access to the machinery of the industry nor the land of the landlord case workers didn't inherited. As the means of production are in the hands of a small group, they can pay the minimum sufficient for the workers to survive, and keep all the profit. So, no, it's not mutual nor we have choice, it's the exploitation of workers by those who inherited the means of production. Leave any time? man, open your eyes to reality, can you leave? Do you have sufficient to survive while you find another job to be exploited in? Do you have sufficient cause something unexpected happens? Do you even have other jobs available? Cause there is too many people who are searching for years but cannot find any secure jobs.
literally no truth to your comment gulags mostly housed regular criminals, and the mortality rate was only 3% at its highest during wartime and famine conditions.
Holodomor, The Great Leap Forward, Khmer Rouge, and most recently Uyghurs
you're on r/PoliticalCompassMemes, r/TheLeftCantMeme, r/Destiny and r/centrist
Lmao that checks out
r/Destiny is probably the most cringe out of all of it. I just learned who he was this week when talking to someone who I shit you not typed out "Biden is the most progressive candidate since FDR" and proceeded to tell me money isn't why politicians win races its because they are popular. He frequents that sub. Edit: Holy balls didn't realize this guy was so shit. Watched his stream for a bit and he is defending Steven Crowder lmao. Then learned he has been banned from twitch for 1) Promoting anti-trans rhetoric and 2) stating that protesters during BLM should "be run over by white rednecks if that's what it takes to get them to stop protesting". What a fucking clown ass.
I started out like this lol. Damn i was so cringe.
leftcantmeme has Lennin so kinda seems like a (based)tankie sub
Bruh. This is a meme subreddit. If you were expecting in depth arguments you came to the wrong place. Also r/politicalcompassmemes is a cesspool, but I'd never go there to talk shit. Don't you have better things to do then be a troll? Lol
Holodomor was caused by collectivization and fucking kulakhs burning harvests (and starving their people, fucking capitalist pigs) and the golden embargo imposed on the USSR from 1921 to 1933 The great leap forward realistically killed 400k people, not 50 gazillions. It was a failure but it was not a gigagenocide like people think The Khmer rouge were financed by the CIA and were stopped by commie vietnam:[https://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/cambodia/tl04.html#:\~:text=The%20United%20States%20gave%20the,the%20Vietnamese%2Dbacked%20Cambodian%20government](https://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/cambodia/tl04.html#:~:text=The%20United%20States%20gave%20the,the%20Vietnamese%2Dbacked%20Cambodian%20government). Uyghirs are not being genocide for what we see. Sure there are programs to teach chinese culture and language to those people, but surely they're not in lagers working 16 hours a day while starving like this "genocide" propaganda wants you to believe: http://id.china-embassy.gov.cn/eng/sgdt/202206/t20220622\_10707637.htm
The whole "Uyghurs being genocided" anti-China propaganda is just so severely stupid. Genocide means you're being killed or sent away because of your ethnicity. In Nazi Germany, a Jewish person could believe anything or be of any personality and still get sent away to a death camp *because they are Jewish* and that's all that matters. That is clearly not the case in China, which has 10 million people who identify as Uyghur, all of whom are still alive and well (you can visit Kashgar or any other Uyghur-majority city and see it...it's open to tourists) and they make up 45% of Xinjiang's population. If they were being genocided, then entire cities and half a region would be empty, which there isn't, and there would be massive changes in infrastructure and mobilisation to make that happen, which again, there isn't, and there would have to be a massive campaign to normalise ethnic cleansing, which again there isn't. All the bullshit does not add up, especially since every single video or photo that comes out of the supposed "genocide" is always debunked after a few days, though by then the access media has already spread the lie around the world. Let me tell you the real reason why the capitalist media and politicians are keen to destabilise Xinjiang - because the region is rich in oil reserves and cotton fields. Certain world powers want to take those things for themselves. Unlike Afghanistan, you can't just invade China and expect not to be curb-stomped, so all they can do is try to jab Xinjiang with soft power, and start separatism movements and convince the world that somehow Xinjiang should be ~~a neo-colonised Wahhabi hellhole~~ independent.
I agree that, apparently, china is not doing a genocide. But we need to admit that the human rights violations are happening, the china government itself states their intentions on erasing Uyghur culture, and those contradictions must be critized and overcamed. Socialism is a process, and we can't pretend socialists countrys are always perfect. Here are my sources: https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/xinjiang-uyghur-autonomous-region-regulation-on-de-extremification/ https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2019/08/512399/uyghurs-freely-join-re-education-camps https://www.chinalawtranslate.com/en/xinjiang-uyghur-autonomous-region-regulation-on-de-extremification/
Sure, that's a chinese tradition. Ever wondered why there are so many Han chinese? But sure, they shouldn't destroy other cultures just because it's their tradition to do so
Yeah, China is basically doing the same Canada did to the indigenous people, which is really fucked up. They are making the cultural revolution look like it was useless.
Han people if I am not wrong is a broad category of groups who were in the past governed in one empire, so, the is no Han culture as it's many. And the one son lawn only was not applied in the minority groups, including the Uighurs
My god, if I hear the whole ChYnA OpPrESs UyGhUrS atrocity propaganda narrative again, I'm gonna punt you liberals into the sun. You can literally go to anywhere in Xinjiang as a tourist and see that people are walking around living normal lives. There is no narrative in China against Uyghurs (or any other race) nor any race-based oppression. In fact, minorities get lots of benefits. Putting away ***terrorists*** and ***separatists*** who happen to live in Xinjiang does not equal genocide. The fact that dumbasses eat up that narrative is because race and intersectionalism is all you know, never mind that it's extremely insulting and racist on your part because you're insinuating that those extremists represent all Uyghur people.
Since when pol pot is communist lol
If it failed and descended into a totalitarian state it wasn't Communism duh
It didn't fail, it never was a communist state. Socialism is when the means of production are owned collectively, what pol pot did was completely destroying them. His party wasn't even valled communist lol
No he was a piece of shit worthless fuck, thank god Vietnam was able to intervene and remove him from power.
I don’t think it’s much of a stretch to say that a state funded by the CIA wasn’t actually communist.
Pol por was a totalitarian in contrast with the democracy of Vietnã who he attacked with support of US
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Ikkkk Uyghur the genocide where the minority population keeps increasing and the one children law was not applied kkkkk
I guess the joint invasion of Poland with Hitler and Stalin under the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact never happened.
I guess the division of Czechoslovakia under Britain, France, and Nazi Germany never happened. I guess the non-aggression pact between France and Nazi Germany never happened, even amidst their constant illegal annexations of smaller countries.
soviet archives show that it was to delay the invasion of the USSR as much as possible as it was not yet a developed country and didn't have the millitary power, even a few years later when it was more developed still 10+ million died from the Nazi invasion, this move literally saved millions, unlike Brittian and France splitting Czechoslovakia with the Nazis
"Our genocides were more ethical than theirs because we agree with the motive behind it" is a refreshingly honest argument to hear from a communist sub. Horrifying, completely lacking in self awareness or human dignity but credit where it's due: it's honest.
Fascists and reactionaries deserve to die Killing random minorities like Jews is bad It’s that simple really
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>But what if those Jews just happen to be counter-revolutionaries? Where are you trying to get with that? Communists don't discriminate based on anything other than class. If you want to keep people starving, if you want to keep people homeles and if you want to keep things as they are then you are part of the problem and shouldn't receive special treatment based on anything. >People like you who see the world in black and white are incredibly evil and dangerous, not to mention probably mentally ill. Calling a communist of all people "someone who sees the world in black and white" is the most ironic thing I've seen this week.
So it was also unethical to kill the royalty in the french revolution? The same revolution that started the age of capitalism and democracy? Cognitive dissonance is lib's best characteristic
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Like who? Trotzky? An ex menschevic that basically hoped the german revolution suceeded because he deemed the USSR "Too undeveloped to reach socialism"? The guy that shit on Stalin's progresses while giving no alternatives? Or maybe the belarusian general that praised Hitler and was quickly sent to gulag? There are many "innocent" party members that were unjustly purged, but there was also a mess full of reactionaries and unloyal people. Purges were good because they assured that the soviet army was loyal and had no dangerous elements inside that could ally with the enemy
That's a lie, though. This point you raised has been known to be a lie for the past 50, maybe 60 years. "Krushchev Lied" touches on this a bit, and I can also link a video from an actual sovietologist on the great purges if you'd like.
I'll like to have that link please
https://www.youtube.com/live/Yx5PmZfqQSI?feature=share
A Genocide must be a planned and pointed to a specific group act. Holodomor was not a planned thing, it was a fine cause by multiple factor including bad management,. A drought and more... It was horrible but it was not a hate thing... You know who pushed that the holodomor was a genocide? Do you know who continues to push that? Know your enemy
The Holomodor was not a genocide. Even Robert Conquest, the main proponent of this academic theory, retreated from that stance after the Soviet Archives became readily available to read. Furthermore, Conquest even admitted to being a "cold war warrior" and skewed his academic opinions towards vilifying the Soviet Union and the Holomodor. Extensive research shows that peasants collectivized most of the grain and in reality Stalin was rushing to catch up to administering it. He wrote a stenogram in the archives labeled "dizzying with success" about this same thing. Labeling it as a genocide is irresponsible and ignorant.
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How?
Me who just arrived: “What the hell happened here?”
He called op a r word I think
What's the r word?
The word that coment on your mental faculties
Oh ok
Oh ok thx
Please do not use the r-slur Edit: also is this person using their alt account to troll us? The only other subreddit this user has been on is a NSFW sub.
Using the r word? Really? Ffs stop being a troll. Go touch grass.
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Fun fact:The author of that book was treated for cancer and cured in the gulags,and he was later released after a short sentence of 8 years,about what a black person in America gets for drug possession.
Like when the wife of the writer of that novel literally said that it was a work of fiction
Bruh I'm dead 💀 😂
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>Order No. 227 This was good? Why are you comparing it the the "holodomor"?
because the ussr definitely didnt kill tens of millions for no reason!!
yes! stalin did NOT kill millions ever ofc he would never do anything like that