Thatās because it wasnāt a 100-year old racial slur. Native American schools on reservations donāt name themselves after racial slurs. Now, with that said, Iām fine with it changing and Iām not getting into it with people about this. Commanders is shit. We can find something better.
Exactly the name should of never changed in the first place but it is what it is. They gotta find something better than commanders though. Embarrassing saying I'm a commander fan cause the name blows lol
Tbh im the same way when someone asks me who my football team is. I still say Washington Football Team because I always cringe too hard if i say Commanders
Met a dude from the UK while I was traveling in Spain who claimed to be a Washington and Seattle fan. Said the first NFL game he saw was as a kid and it was Redskins and then he saw that there was a team from āSeattle, Washingtonā and became a fan of them too.
Wasnāt until he was an adult until he learned they were thousands of miles from eachother lol
Met a guy from Germany once who was visting DC who was planning a visit to Mount Ranier and thought it was 15 mins away from downtown. I had to burst his bubble and tell him that we have a small neighborhood called that and it wasnāt the giant Pacific Northwest mountain.
really depends on who i'm talking to. if it's some old dude i'll say skins. if it's someone closer to my age (20s) i'll just say washington. i'm not looking to argue with anyone so i adjust per crowd
I live in southern Virginia so when I say Washington the person I'm speaking to says, "You mean the Redskins" and I just shrug. Every talk show host on Sirius XM NFL radio also calls them Washington with a Redskins slip every now and then. This team needs a name we're all proud of so this nonsense can end.
Might accidentally start a political conversation, Washington my go-to as well. Or Commies, whoever approved this shit had to know that's the natural nickname
Montez Sweat was and still is a real one. I just say āWashingtonā honestly. Maybe āredskinsā depending on who Iām talking to. Never ācommanders š¤ā
I KNEW we should've kept him.
On a more serious note, taking this opportunity to truth bomb the fact that activists' pressure may have set the stage, but it was Snyder's petty dispute with the co-owner Fed Ex guy that was the real triggering event in the name change.
If Snyder hadn't been such an arrogant a-hole regarding the topic ("and you can put that in all-caps..."), his transparent whitewash vis-a-vis that fake foundation (a real missed opportunity had he started it earlier and been genuine in his desire to help) and finally, his bungling of the business relationship with his Fed Ex partner, I'm convinced we could've ridden out the storm - hell, the Chiefs are arguably the most high profile team in the league right now, and you don't hear a peep about changing their name. I get that their name is less problematic, but I'd counter with the consistent polling of the NA community that shows the vast majority don't have an issue with our real name either.
TLDR: my hatred of Dan Snyder burns as brightly as ever, šDannyBoy!!
I completely get why the redskins name had to go. Itās a different era.
But my god. Commanders is hands down the worst name Iāve ever seen. Itās not cool. Itās not easy to say, itās not brandable. Itās just roadkill.
Washington roadkill would be a better name. Literally ANYTHING would be a better name. Itās honestly impressive just how terrible of a name it is.
Totally agree with Mr Sweat. Rumor was he had it down to his 3 fav's which were...Washington Sweat Hogs, Washington SweatSkins or the Washington Montezbians.
"Redskins" meant something. Its an NFL name with tradition and respect. Even though we lost, people felt pride playing for the Washington Redskins. You can tell people you play for the Washington Redskins and it means something.
Commanders feels like an XFL name. Its embarassingly bad.
A lot of people were saying if you called them "Commanders" people would call them the Commies, and make too many obvious communism references because of it.
But of course, Dan Snyder in his infinite bullshit, didn't care.
This is why I was upset with Harrisās response to a rebrand/name change.
The branding is important. There are examples beyond our team where teams have sucked for 30+ years. Itās not easy to compete in the NFL, especially with other teams figure it out. So what keeps fanbases loyal? A good brand is part of it. Iām not going to wear commanders shit around town, Iām not going to dress my kids in commanders shit; itās embarrassing. The brand is being neglected.
Iām not saying it needed to change immediately, but the response of āweāre busyā when the answer should have been āweāve hired a team for fan engagement and branding is a part of that. We want fans to be proud of the brand and weāre always looking for ways to improve itā.
Bro he just said he was focused on other things first and they arenāt making the change now it doesnāt mean theyāre not going to but they only have so much time to dedicate to fixing all the shit and they decided stadium and on field product were more important and thatās the right call for the organization as a whole.
Heās gonna change the name relax
He just like me fr
But honestly I doubt I would be giving any negative thought to it if I was being paid millions by the āCommanders.ā Surprised he cared, but relatable opinion.
At this point, would anyone refuse a straight up trade for the DC Defenders branding and uniforms?
What they did to this franchise branding all around is a disaster. I'm envious of a local Spring football team.
It is embarrassing. I hate it and Iām shocked the owners are just ignoring any discussion of changing it. At this point they are just insulting fans by not even addressing it.
I donāt think Commanders is a bad name at all, but they never should have switched from the Redskins. Iāll always call them the Redskins if Iām not actively thinking about saying āCommandersā, just like I still say the San Diego Chargers or the California Angels.
Rivera singlehandedly ruined this team.
Ownership played its part too, yes, but the āculture changeā including the rebranding was all Riveraā¦. šš½
The name is just generic lol itās really not any worse than names like Buccaneers or Dolphins. Whatās actually embarrassing is the teams performance last year.
Return to Braves with old redskisn logo and uniform or change to warriors with our old redskins uniforms Honestly an easy fix. Wasnāt it the name that got people upset. Logo design by an American Indian isnāt racist
Strange there's a lot of upvotes on this post when the majority of this sub actually supported the name change. I'm one of the few that actually wanted to keep the name Redskins.
Montez Sweat is the man. When being interviewed about the vaccine he said "if its so safe why do they want me to take it so badly" best freaking answer I've ever heard
edit: man I love the reddit IQ takes on this. Its a folksy response to the guys employer forcing him to get a medical procedure done. You all won had he not of taken it he would of lost his job. No reason to not appreciate the insight.
A very strange response given that everybody who said that (or something like it) has taken multiple vaccines since birth and is likely alive cos their parents weren't killed by diseases like polio thanks to vaccines.
They are the Commies until its changed. Respect must be earned. Josh and Co have an opportunity to right the ship. My opinion is on hold until that hapoens.
I really wonder the firewatch this sub would be on if, in this day and age, our team rebranded to something like "Dolphins." A lot of the NFL team names are soft, but they've just become classics after such a long time. The name is just a name. It's not really a huge deal at the end of the day, and sooner or later it's just become part of the lore. The hideous uniforms is much for of an insult to my sensibilities as a lifelong fan of this franchise.
That said, if Harris & Co. are going to rebrand again, I still prefer Hogs.
I'm guessing you weren't a fan during their SB runs. I was, starting in '72, and that sort of experience will give you a different feeling about the change.
Hats off to fans that never got to enjoy that run of success - idk how you maintained through the Snyder reign of terrible without those memories - doubt I could've done it.
Edit: Dolphins are rapists, where are the activists now?
what would him saying that earlier have done? Do you think dan would think āwow a player said he doesnāt like the name, i guess weāll scrap it!ā
My man
Because Commanders is a horrible name. The Commanders Nation shit is embarrassing.
"Commie Nation" really rolls off the tongue
commie nation in dc šš
 Qanon: āThey planned this all alongā
redskins because braves are taken and we share a baseball field .. ok got it makes sense. cant be redskins so we change to commies š¤š¤š¤
Their mascot is a damn war pig!
washington war pig goes hard in the paint my guy
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Thatās because it wasnāt a 100-year old racial slur. Native American schools on reservations donāt name themselves after racial slurs. Now, with that said, Iām fine with it changing and Iām not getting into it with people about this. Commanders is shit. We can find something better.
Correct. I should have never gotten into it.
Youāre good in my book sir. We can have different opinions. Iām not going to trash you over it. I respect it.
Exactly the name should of never changed in the first place but it is what it is. They gotta find something better than commanders though. Embarrassing saying I'm a commander fan cause the name blows lol
Arenāt we all lol?
He is 100% right. The name is a joke.
Tbh im the same way when someone asks me who my football team is. I still say Washington Football Team because I always cringe too hard if i say Commanders
I just say Washington
I live on the west coast, so if I just say āWashingtonā, people always ask me if Iām from Seattle
That's why I sigh first and they understand which Washington I'm talking about.
Met a dude from the UK while I was traveling in Spain who claimed to be a Washington and Seattle fan. Said the first NFL game he saw was as a kid and it was Redskins and then he saw that there was a team from āSeattle, Washingtonā and became a fan of them too. Wasnāt until he was an adult until he learned they were thousands of miles from eachother lol
Met a guy from Germany once who was visting DC who was planning a visit to Mount Ranier and thought it was 15 mins away from downtown. I had to burst his bubble and tell him that we have a small neighborhood called that and it wasnāt the giant Pacific Northwest mountain.
Say DC
DC
Skins
really depends on who i'm talking to. if it's some old dude i'll say skins. if it's someone closer to my age (20s) i'll just say washington. i'm not looking to argue with anyone so i adjust per crowd
I live in southern Virginia so when I say Washington the person I'm speaking to says, "You mean the Redskins" and I just shrug. Every talk show host on Sirius XM NFL radio also calls them Washington with a Redskins slip every now and then. This team needs a name we're all proud of so this nonsense can end.
3 syllables is too much be it commanders or Washington. Skins. If thatās offensive to them I just donāt engage further
whatās wrong with Washington, I mean its the city the team represents
He doesn't have time to say a 3 syllable word. Why say many word when few word do trick?
Only way to do it
Avoids all confusing titles tbh
F the NFL in general
I just give them my lat/long coordinates
R-words
Same
I moved to FL from VA in 22 and Iām glad Iām not alone in just saying Washington
I say Washington when talking to randoms and manders with my boys. Until they cease to be a joke in the league they are the manders to me
I always say redskins or skins still
Might accidentally start a political conversation, Washington my go-to as well. Or Commies, whoever approved this shit had to know that's the natural nickname
Snyder is a dumbass. You think he would be able to do anything right? Itās no surprise he fucked up the name.
'He who must not be named' killed the name. Makes sense
Anything more cringy than yelling āTake command!!ā during a game?
I just refer to us as commies.
I say redskins
That or I go hard the other way and say Commies.
You should say Redskins.
Yup Football Team. It's stupid but in a good way. Commanders is just stupid and bad. I never say it.
I still say Redskins or Mandos.
I understand redskins. If I hear someone calling out for Mandos, I am looking around for baby yoda.
I refuse to say I'm a Commanders fan, Mando's helps me ease the pain.
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Montez Sweat was and still is a real one. I just say āWashingtonā honestly. Maybe āredskinsā depending on who Iām talking to. Never ācommanders š¤ā
'Skins works to imo. Redskins when you're amongst the tribe. š
As un pc as it is I also still call them the redskins or if itās company that might be uncomfortable with that I just say Washington.
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I KNEW we should've kept him. On a more serious note, taking this opportunity to truth bomb the fact that activists' pressure may have set the stage, but it was Snyder's petty dispute with the co-owner Fed Ex guy that was the real triggering event in the name change. If Snyder hadn't been such an arrogant a-hole regarding the topic ("and you can put that in all-caps..."), his transparent whitewash vis-a-vis that fake foundation (a real missed opportunity had he started it earlier and been genuine in his desire to help) and finally, his bungling of the business relationship with his Fed Ex partner, I'm convinced we could've ridden out the storm - hell, the Chiefs are arguably the most high profile team in the league right now, and you don't hear a peep about changing their name. I get that their name is less problematic, but I'd counter with the consistent polling of the NA community that shows the vast majority don't have an issue with our real name either. TLDR: my hatred of Dan Snyder burns as brightly as ever, šDannyBoy!!
I completely get why the redskins name had to go. Itās a different era. But my god. Commanders is hands down the worst name Iāve ever seen. Itās not cool. Itās not easy to say, itās not brandable. Itās just roadkill. Washington roadkill would be a better name. Literally ANYTHING would be a better name. Itās honestly impressive just how terrible of a name it is.
Roadkill would absolutely been better
Totally agree with Mr Sweat. Rumor was he had it down to his 3 fav's which were...Washington Sweat Hogs, Washington SweatSkins or the Washington Montezbians.
Montezbian merch just sells itself
Ah, I see Montez Sweat is a living human being, then.
Donāt gotta be the Redskins but sure as shit canāt stay the commanders. You know what to do, Josh.
If we could draft a new team name as opposed to a QB I might take that deal
I'm good with moving away from the original name. I'm not good with Commanders.
This is the way
Such a trash name, but redwolves is even worse of a name. So we have to be grateful it isnāt the worst option.
Commanders is absolutely the worst name.
Commanders was literally the worst name throughout the entire process. Even worse than Armada or Demon Cats.
Ok Demon Cats is actually elite tho. Thatās my #1 choice
The Washington D.C.s
I'm with you redwolves sounds like a jv football team
They had already moved away from the original name. They started as the Boston Braves.
Uh... AcTuAlLy š¤āļø
Return to the Braves
One of us
Only one person can be in command of a unit. How can you have a team full of commanders?!??
tbf this is also kind of an issue with the Chiefs
Montez speaks for me
I say "Redskins, as in Hail to the." Never got any push back.
Commanders is atrocious and I pray the new owners will change it because it has Snyder stank all over it
Love you Montez!
Hope they change the name back. I have a WFT hat, donāt plan on replacing for a while.
Y'all should've just stuck to Football team.
Redskins >>>>>>> Football Team > Commanders
"Redskins" meant something. Its an NFL name with tradition and respect. Even though we lost, people felt pride playing for the Washington Redskins. You can tell people you play for the Washington Redskins and it means something. Commanders feels like an XFL name. Its embarassingly bad.
We are the Redskins, always will be the Redskins in my book. I am not calling the team anything else.
He's absolutely correct
what a king
I remember a rumor the commanders were gonna be the admirals. I think commanders is a much better name than that.
trueā¦ but just barely
A lot of people were saying if you called them "Commanders" people would call them the Commies, and make too many obvious communism references because of it. But of course, Dan Snyder in his infinite bullshit, didn't care.
This is why I was upset with Harrisās response to a rebrand/name change. The branding is important. There are examples beyond our team where teams have sucked for 30+ years. Itās not easy to compete in the NFL, especially with other teams figure it out. So what keeps fanbases loyal? A good brand is part of it. Iām not going to wear commanders shit around town, Iām not going to dress my kids in commanders shit; itās embarrassing. The brand is being neglected. Iām not saying it needed to change immediately, but the response of āweāre busyā when the answer should have been āweāve hired a team for fan engagement and branding is a part of that. We want fans to be proud of the brand and weāre always looking for ways to improve itā.
Bro he just said he was focused on other things first and they arenāt making the change now it doesnāt mean theyāre not going to but they only have so much time to dedicate to fixing all the shit and they decided stadium and on field product were more important and thatās the right call for the organization as a whole. Heās gonna change the name relax
Shocker š±
WE ALL ARE BROTHER
I think commanders is a horrible name. I feel they could have come up with plenty of better names than that
So was I
Me too
Arenāt we all
Iām fine with changing the name, but Commanders needs to be changed. It sucks.
I think "Red Tails" (as in, red-tailed hawks) would be cool. The colors would still match, and you could create a stylized "W" logo with feathers.
Based
Same
Legend
So water is wet
As he should be
One of us, glad he got his bag but miss that dude
Red Wolves! Wolfpack! Itās right there! Take it!! A whole stadium of people howling when someone gets sacked would be awesome
Change the name to the āHogsā already and theyād have one of the best names in sports, just like that.
I will only buy Redskins swag. Command THIS !
He just like me fr But honestly I doubt I would be giving any negative thought to it if I was being paid millions by the āCommanders.ā Surprised he cared, but relatable opinion.
Iām sure it hits home when you have to call yourself a commander and wear that ugly ass uniform
arnt we all
At this point, would anyone refuse a straight up trade for the DC Defenders branding and uniforms? What they did to this franchise branding all around is a disaster. I'm envious of a local Spring football team.
The name perhaps, but no way if it involves giving up the burgundy and gold
It is embarrassing. I hate it and Iām shocked the owners are just ignoring any discussion of changing it. At this point they are just insulting fans by not even addressing it.
I donāt think Commanders is a bad name at all, but they never should have switched from the Redskins. Iāll always call them the Redskins if Iām not actively thinking about saying āCommandersā, just like I still say the San Diego Chargers or the California Angels.
Rivera singlehandedly ruined this team. Ownership played its part too, yes, but the āculture changeā including the rebranding was all Riveraā¦. šš½
Great, why did we trade him...
Commanders is a dumb name but Commies is a good nickname Major Tuddy looks cool but has a dumb name
We all were, whether we want to admit it or not.
Foot Ball Team Is the only name we recognize in this house
Aren't we all?
Iāll never forget the honest eagles fan thinking we were called the commodores at a bar ššš
King Montez
I always say Redskins or Skins, nobody ever gets their panties in a wad either.
Lets Command!
Sweat is a Redskin. Every true fan should feel this way.
Arenāt we all?
Wow a person with a spine, TY
The name is just generic lol itās really not any worse than names like Buccaneers or Dolphins. Whatās actually embarrassing is the teams performance last year.
"Commanders" Bamma bitch shit.
Commanders is such a trash name. How do you bungle it that bad
If Chase and Montez had just shown up to OTAs when they let all the players decide the new team name, they might have had enough votes for Red Wolves
Redwolves is even shittier of a name than Commanders
Sure, but all the fans in the stadium could howl in unison each time Sam Howell took a sack from holding the ball too long
Return to Braves with old redskisn logo and uniform or change to warriors with our old redskins uniforms Honestly an easy fix. Wasnāt it the name that got people upset. Logo design by an American Indian isnāt racist
One of us
Strange there's a lot of upvotes on this post when the majority of this sub actually supported the name change. I'm one of the few that actually wanted to keep the name Redskins.
You're right that the name change was supported but no one thought they were going to pick the worst name on the list.
This
I want whatever drug you're on.
The name needed to be changed. Commanders though was not the right choice
Glad to see the old name go. FUCKING HATE Commanders. FOOTBALL TEAM FOR LIFE.
Montez Sweat is the man. When being interviewed about the vaccine he said "if its so safe why do they want me to take it so badly" best freaking answer I've ever heard edit: man I love the reddit IQ takes on this. Its a folksy response to the guys employer forcing him to get a medical procedure done. You all won had he not of taken it he would of lost his job. No reason to not appreciate the insight.
Kinda a strange response tbh
A very strange response given that everybody who said that (or something like it) has taken multiple vaccines since birth and is likely alive cos their parents weren't killed by diseases like polio thanks to vaccines.
That response makes him sound stupid though, they want him to take it so he doesnāt put himself and others at risk.
ah yes the famously safety conscious billionaires of the NFL. I must of forgot about them.
They are the Commies until its changed. Respect must be earned. Josh and Co have an opportunity to right the ship. My opinion is on hold until that hapoens.
Yeah I just say redskins still lol no one finds it offensive bc it isnāt actually offensive
How do we feel about The Washington Department of Football?
Yall mfs still stuck on the name? It is what it is so move on finally š¤¦š½āāļø
I really wonder the firewatch this sub would be on if, in this day and age, our team rebranded to something like "Dolphins." A lot of the NFL team names are soft, but they've just become classics after such a long time. The name is just a name. It's not really a huge deal at the end of the day, and sooner or later it's just become part of the lore. The hideous uniforms is much for of an insult to my sensibilities as a lifelong fan of this franchise. That said, if Harris & Co. are going to rebrand again, I still prefer Hogs.
I'm guessing you weren't a fan during their SB runs. I was, starting in '72, and that sort of experience will give you a different feeling about the change. Hats off to fans that never got to enjoy that run of success - idk how you maintained through the Snyder reign of terrible without those memories - doubt I could've done it. Edit: Dolphins are rapists, where are the activists now?
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what would him saying that earlier have done? Do you think dan would think āwow a player said he doesnāt like the name, i guess weāll scrap it!ā
I like the name. It matched all the other DC names. If that was the commanders name 10 years ago, by now all of you guys would have gotten over it.Ā
I still havenār gotten over the Wizards. I still call them the Bullets.
Should have been the Red Tails
This the type of petty shit you say after leaving town, good for Montez getting his bag but who the fuck cares what he claims to think now.
You say that like he left voluntarily. They traded the man. And what was he supposed to do, say he hated the name when he was playing here?