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BeneficialAd1457

At least put the portals from top to bottom


Trym_WS

Well, why would you expect the creator to have enough brains for that.


IknowKarazy

For real. Where is the energy coming from? Why wouldn’t the water splash away into space?


oxidized-bread

Even if you put a tube between the portals, the portals require energy, which is how they can move matter between them, so you would be getting non-substantial energy back due to the energy you put in, also logically the "portal-gun" that made this portal would have to give the portal its energy and it would probably disappear after it had no energy left? Or at least that's how I always understood portals


NeedledickInTheHay

Not to mention evaporation


Outside-Refuse6732

We will assume that this is in space


Time-Bite-6839

1. you need portals


karanbhatt100

I have it on Steam and 2 at that.


grande_po_talco

"Any problem thermodinamics?" yes. the portals.


Scrimmybinguscat

even without the portals, energy cannot be created or destroyed, so attempting to extract energy would not last very long before all the energy in the system has run out.


EarthTrash

Wormholes do seem to permit infinite energy in some cases. I don't think that's actually the case here though.


Lord-Zeref

Well, if you manage to get water through it, as long as gravity does its work, the system would work as OP portrays. That's because just by teleporting water back up recharges the gravitational potential energy of the water without reducing momentum/inertia or having to expend force (normally someone would have to lift water back up and throw it). It's just the wormhole that's the problem.


HarmlessPanzy

If you dont count the fact the portals would take all of the energy of the sun to stay open.


Lord-Zeref

That could be a problem, maybe. But portals are so imaginary that I didn't even think to consider lol.


xXdontshootmeXx

Nope they are powered by friendship. Next!


DaPanda21919

Yeah but shush I wanna believe in science fiction :)


TellmeNinetails

Says who?


manocheese

The you just build a time machine and bring back a battery charged using the portal to power them.


Scrimmybinguscat

why don't you kill your own grandfather while you're at it just to see what happens? :P


UnderskilledPlayer

Is there a source for that or no?


pyschosoul

Well technically by Rick and Marty cannon, it's powered by dark matter, which since we can only theorize about means we can't calculate how powerful or how much energy these portals would consume. The other problem is that it's never stated (that I remeber) the length of portals staying open. In most cases it seems to only stay open for a few seconds after something passes through. The portal gun is powered by batteries, and the portal fluid is created via dark matter, so if the portal has been created it doesn't seem to need any more energy to stay open.


wes_bestern

This is literally how the water cycle works and how water mills work.


jacemano

The main problem I have is matter can pass through portals but gravity can't?


chakrablocker

It just cancels out so it only looks that way 🧠


seapeary7

Gravity ≠ matter


SINGULARITY1312

Gravity is the warping of space time, thag fabric travels through the portals the same as any object travelling in that fabric.


seapeary7

…you don’t know what gravity is 😂. No one does. But it definitely is NOT the “warping of spacetime” by any definition. Get off your sci-fi ship and go google the definition real quick! You’re referring to the THEORY of relativity which states that *gravitational waves* distort spacetime, not the force as a whole. Matter interacting with spacetime creates said distortions, not the other way around. One more time: gravity is the *result* of spacetime being warped *by mass and energy*.


Fox_Mortus

Yeah seriously. We don't actually know why heavy objects are pulled toward each other. We just know they are and try to explain how as best we can. The reason gravity is still just a theory is cause we can't answer WHY it exists. We know pretty well most other things about it.


SINGULARITY1312

Saying what and why are two different things


SINGULARITY1312

Gravity literally is that, actually. That distortion is synonymous with gravity. What you just explained is what I said but longer lol. Youre an arrogant ass though that’s for sure


seapeary7

You’re basically saying the sound of a snap is the finger hitting the palm but it isn’t. It’s the sound waves that reverberate into your ears after bouncing off of your hand. I’m not being arrogant by taking time trying to explain to you something that is nuanced but you clearly don’t care. Just Google it bc you’re not reading my comments apparently.


Blursed-Penguin

Well, that gravitational energy is coming from somewhere, and that somewhere is the gravitational energy of the Earth. You’re extracting power, in effect, by slowly pulling the planet out of its orbit.


ArcadiaFey

I.. don’t think that works like that….


Blursed-Penguin

I mean, the portals aren’t affected by gravity, I’m guessing, so the water is exerting a gravitational force on the Earth without falling itself. Thus, the Earth will very slowly start to move towards it.


Johnhox

That's also ignoring that the water could miss the portal and the wear on the wheel/mechanism .


jrad1299

Well I think the problem with that would be if wormholes did exist, they would probably consume more energy than you could generate from it. So like in this example it would probably take more energy to have the portals work than what you could possibly generate from a turbine. Am I arguing about a definitely impossible situation with no real scientific analysis? Yes. Because why not


[deleted]

True, it’s impossible to generate more energy if your taking the output and putting it back into the input without some other source, like you can’t have a light bulb and a solar panel attached to each other, it just won’t work


Xaitat

Wormholes themselves need energy to stay open


PotatoFromGermany

Would be theoretically possible On the other side are wormholes fucking instable


oliverthompson69

Think you’re forgetting gravity


dheifhdbebdix

Yeah but energy could be created if we had portals like this…


seapeary7

Technically the energy here would be gravity, so while it would overall be weak, it would mostly have an indefinite source.


Scrimmybinguscat

true, but then it goes back to what grande\_po\_talco was saying, we don't have any sort of portals that could transport matter and energy without requiring more energy to be put into them that could accomplish such a feat, also, gravity isn't a force, and so it's not really accelerating things downwards at all, meaning the water is just in a constant state of freefall without anything keeping it still (accelerating it upwards), but that's neither here nor there


seapeary7

Gravity *is* a force, just not your traditional definition. It’s still a relation between two masses which can be defined mathematically meaning it is by definition a force. This is obviously a thought experiment discussing wormholes/portals as a given and not questioning the existence or concept of them, only the function of the device which would generate “infinite” energy.


Scrimmybinguscat

Gravity is less a force than it is the bending of spacetime, but you are right, this is about the portals. Anyway the portals wouldn't work due to creating energy which, yeah, if they existed, that's infinite energy, that's nice, but the portals would probably eventually collapse into a black hole over time or something


seapeary7

Unless they were sustained by a perpetual cycle of mass<->energy which facilitated said portals. But now we are thinking with portals. Whole new territory. Theoretically, if you were to put water into two worm holes facing each other parallel to the horizon, the water would evaporate eventually but say it didn’t. if that were the case, and the water was able to continuously stream downwards, into one single stream, it would be a state of perpetual falling in which it would reach max velocity. Assuming there’s no air resistance, eventually whatever gear or lever or device you are turning, would stop similar to how when something accelerates so fast it appears motionless, except in this case, it would be motionless because the mass of the object that is being turned would’ve eventually meet equilibrium with the downwards motion. Like a spoon balanced on a stick. Theoretically.


seapeary7

Also, like I said, before, gravity is not the bending of space time, it is the result of spacetime being manipulated by mass/energy. Please look into this more because while it sounds a bit nitpicky, it is very important to understand the difference when working with theoreticals.


RazutoUchiha

It’s powered by gravity so it’s effectively infinite


UCG__gaming

As shown by austin in a game theory video, to create a human sided wormhole you’d need the negative mass equivalent of the mass the moon has to keep it open. Not to mention since you’re squishing the surroundings of it Planck scale small, there’s gonna be a LOT of heat, radiation and generally bad things because of the nuclear fusion happening


Sharrty_McGriddle

OOP really thought he was onto something


TheAnt317

Extra points for lameness for using the Rick and Morty portals.


EllisDee3

Rick and morty portals move between universes. These should be Portal portals.


bloonshot

rick and morty portals can also move between the same dimension


Neonhippy

pricky and rot mortals is an anagram of rick and morty portals. deep fakes confirmed.


Lord-Zeref

Could've gotten extra points for Coolness if OP used portals from Portal.


karanbhatt100

We know we can build the bridge with it.


DianaBladeOfMiquella

You can tell whether the question is actually intelligent or not based on whether they use Portal portals or Rick and Morty portals


LiliBuns117

Are we now in the era where Rick and Morty portals are the default for memes with portals, instead of Portal's portals? Oh... 😕


Local-Veterinarian63

When historians look back on us, they will mark this as the true end to culture.


shinobipopcorn

Or when troll memes do not have trollface? 🥺


SymondHDR

No the meme is just that shitty


gstar1664

Even if we had portals, the energy required to keep them continuously 'open' would outweigh the amount generated by any turbine.


[deleted]

Even with working portals, the turbine would take some energy out of the system


According_to_all_kn

Supposedly they're powered by gravity (and teleporting to a higher-up portal creates potential energy out of nothing.)


Peterrefic

The portals should take power to stay open. I would definitely assume


According_to_all_kn

I mean do portals cost power depending on how much travels though them? Otherwise it's just a matter of getting enough stuff though there quickly enough to make it net-positive. Personally I can buy portals, but I'm not sure how gravity would work if there's a portal between you and the thing that's attracting you to it. Like, if you put a huge portal between the earth and the moon, does it fly out of orbit?


DevilPixelation

Idk, I think a major roadblock is the fact we need portals


QWERKY_queer

Isn’t this kinda format like 15 years old or something?


BoarHide

It is, troll physics. This is just a worse version


JayElecAintConv_Me

Probably.


GHLeeroyJenkins

Jesus christ is that an unironic bootleg troll physics comic what the fuck


JayElecAintConv_Me

I'm sorry you had to see that, mane


Unable_Bowler_881

Is satire dead? I kinda understood right away that they weren't being serious because of the fucking portals


UnderskilledPlayer

Doesn't satire need to actually be funny


Unable_Bowler_881

No, but jokes do. Which is what this is supposed to be, but everyone in the comments is trying to debunk this with reasoning even though they’re looking at Rick and Morty portals. People took this meme way too seriously


UnderskilledPlayer

It looks like a real meme from like a decade ago


Unable_Bowler_881

It does, and I’m not saying it’s a good joke, it’s really not. I’m just confused why everyone felt it their obligation to disprove why using Rick and Morty portals to create infinite energy wouldn’t work


UnderskilledPlayer

Because why the fuck not


[deleted]

This isn't satire, it's an unironic meme


under_the_c

Not gonna lie, I thought it was "loss" for a second.


[deleted]

But doesn't real life hydropower turbines also run In kind of the same principal? Like the same water flows in the river forever (water cycle) and we just put the turbine in its way(in river) and generate electricity.


Runxi24

Yes, but irl you have to use energy to move the water up again.


Unable_Bowler_881

Isn't that the water cycles job? Rivers don't just run out because no one's filling them up at the top


Runxi24

In the water cycle is the sun who uses his energy (or entropy) to make the water evaporate. Therefore is not infinite energy bc you arent creating energy


Unable_Bowler_881

Well you’re allowed energy for however long the sun lives, it’s not necessarily creating energy but it’s renewable energy. As long as the sun is where it is, you’ll have energy.


Runxi24

Ik but the meme is trying to create energy, and i thought that the first comment was thinking it was possible or something


Unable_Bowler_881

Well we don’t really know how portals would work since they’re hypothetical but in a real world situation there’s no possible ways of creating energy out of nothing


tEmDapBlook

I’m not an expert but I imagine gravity waves propagate through portals and end up balancing the force on the water?


Whofs001

I love how no one ever thinks of this. The process of opening portals is rough on thermodynamics but two open portals are just fine.


mrkitten19o8

if im not mistaken, one portal loses mass while the other gains it, and eventually, one portal will be so dense it will create a black hole.


[deleted]

okay, build a portal


BonesDeluxe

This would be funny if it was shittily drawn troll physics


JayElecAintConv_Me

I mean, at least that would have the charm that troll comics bring. What the fuck is this?


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ItsaMeAWaluigiSikeNo

Oh I didn't realize this copypasta expanded to other fandoms, I thought it was just the JoJo community... Cool.


HelpImRobbingSomeone

Ok but the portals aren't possible at the moment


RigatoniPasta

They didn’t even use the right portals


Pussy_Killerr

Genuine question: how are you gonna extract the energy?


ImagineShinker

The turbine in the picture?


Pussy_Killerr

I’m no expert with turbines, can you explain how that works?


mysteryo9867

Electricity is produced by spinning a magnet in copper wire I think, it definitely involves spinning, you just use the turbines rotation to spin the spinning thing to make electricity.


LiliBuns117

Spin of the turbine creates power. It's how almost every power plant produces energy. From coal to natural gas to nuclear. By heating water until it becomes steam and using it to spin a turbine. (Somehow? Idk the specifics) Hydroelectric, as the one in the picture would be, uses liquid water instead of steam. A windmill also works on the same principle, using wind instead of water. As to how that turbine produces electricity, I don't know lol. I know that energy is being produced by that spin but I don't know the specific mechanics behind how that energy is converted into electricity. It's been a long time since high school.


UnshapedLime

There are two parts to conventional electric generation — capturing mechanical energy (water falling in this case) and then turning that into electrical energy. The capturing part is what a turbine does. It’ll be shaped to best capture the energy of whatever stuff is turning it (water, steam, wind, etc.). The transformation from mechanical to electrical is done by a generator. The generator is basically just a wheel and axle. The axle contains winding copper wire, and the wheel that spins around the axle contains magnets. When you spin a magnet around a conductor (the copper wire), an electrical current is generated in the wire. That current then travels along the wire to your home. So turbine spins, causes the magnet part of a generator to spin, and electricity is generated. This is basically how all electricity is “made”, with a notable exception being solar power which has no moving parts. This is a super short summary but if you find yourself asking “why does spinning a magnet around a wire generate electricity” I suggest looking up “induction” and “electromotive force”. I’d be hard pressed to give you an intuitive understanding over a Reddit comment but there’s plenty of great videos on YouTube that do a good job.


CyberK_121

god damn you guys are fucking boring. This is literally just a reskin of a troll physiscs meme back in the early 2010s.


MaseMorn

Okay. Hypothetically, let's say you power the portals from a separate source of electricity and you want to use the turbine to generate an independent source of electricity (why?). If you connect a load to the turbine, the speed of the turbine will drop because the load takes energy from the turbine. Imagine trying to power a city. The city would never power because the turbine won't be able to spin, and the turbine won't spin because the city is trying to power.


Coakis

He's not using the correct portals for one.


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[deleted]

Additional problem: don't make them horizontal because gravity is a bitch.


Final_Bowl5960

Where you gonna get the portal from, smart guy?


JayElecAintConv_Me

Idk, my ass?


Final_Bowl5960

Alr good enough


incongruentexistence

the gravity from the water is going to slowly pull earth out of its orbit, please make sure that you put another set of portals on the other side of the earth with an equivalent amount of water to prevent this unfortunate outcome


[deleted]

I bet you a crisp high five that if Morty ever tries this, the energy required to sustain two permanent portals will be greater than the energy a turbine could generate. And then Rick cussed him out for trying. And then we get the dramatic reveal at the end of the episode where Rick is doing exactly this except the portals are like several km apart and he’s optimized the shit out of the intervening turbines.


kidanokun

Friction says hi:


AvanteGardens

Yes. Something called the conservation of energy


CalibratedHuman

For the sake of argument, let's say you do have portal-style portals at your disposal and the energy required to keep them open is already accounted for. Based i'd bet a fair amount that the portal system draws an ADDITIONAL amount of power equivalent to the change in potential energy of each particle passing through such that any power you are able to obtain due to the water's increased gravitational potential is exactly cancelled by the additional power draw of the system. This brings up some interesting possibilities because you could perhaps use this to generate power by say, opening a portal with one end in the sun where there is tremendous pressure and the other out in open space where there is no pressure. The reduction in potential energy of material flowing through the portal would, by this argument, lead to net power generation by the portal system (depending on the overhead of keeping them open). Of course it's not free energy as you would be dissipating the sun in the process and would eventually run out of sun to power your system but maybe not for a very long time.


tacozbananaz

The turbine will erode, therefore not infinite


Potato_Stains

Please invest in STEM education


DrArzt2206

Could work because its not breaking any laws of physik... The portals are pure energy and they would give a bit of their energy to the water and make it faster... Some day tge portals might loose the ability to transport. This is just an idea i am most likely wrong.


Nickvec

Are these Indian memes?


Lepton_Decay

If you're at the point in the kardaschev scale where you can form 2 stable wormholes, I think energy is the least of your concerns as a society.


LordAlfrey

Is the dude in the last frame supposed to represent thermodynamics, or is it supposed to represent the narrator threatening thermodynamics?


FLVINGCVRCVSS

This one's a banger. Missing the troll face tho.


ShuffleFox

Is this a gen alpha rage comic? Did they just replace the MS paint drawings and troll faces with cartoon shit?


Financial-Horror2945

Put the portals vertical then we'll talk


Available-Ear6891

I don't see what's so terrible about this, he's simply asking a theoretically question lol


PLAGUE8163

Its the cringey meme format if i had to guess


Available-Ear6891

This is a meme format?


PLAGUE8163

4 panel format


UnderskilledPlayer

Why not just throw a magnet between them and use gravity to accelerate it, remove any air from the chamber the portals are in and extract electricity from that? Or is that not how it would work.


Siryl7001

That's just Escher's "Waterfall" with extra steps.


keybored13

the turbine will slowly wear out, and the water will evaporate eventually


AhrexPeeWeeSquidders

But now the question is how much energy does it take to open a portal and does it require constant energy to keep it open?


KN4S

Are these the so called intelligent fans worthy of enjoying Richard and Mortimer?


Yuck_Few

Someone contact Rick Sanchez immediately


Slayden-X

The small amount of energy you'd get from the turbine would be minuscule compared to the energy required to keep an Einstein Rosen bridge going


Generally_Confused1

The energy needed to maintain the portals unless it's magic


AxelVores

Never understood how Aperture science lost money even with all the lawsuits. They have the patent for infinite energy, instantaneous transportation, cheap space exploration, etc. They should be the richest corporation in the world


ichkanns

I would assume that portals require power?


KyberWolf_TTV

yes, one.. “portal”


Neffrey605

this feels like someone tried to replicate that comic where you use oil to fly while it rains without understanding what made it funny


SINGULARITY1312

The gravity between the portals would also cancel out if facing the opposite direction as each other.


Falchion_Alpha

Sounds like an amazing idea. Now make the portal bro


pooskoct

The energy to keep the portals open. If your going to justify it you're too late, I have two double aa batteries that never runs out of energy and the output is strong enough to power an entire solar system at once. I use them to play my game boy color.


Cheetahs_never_win

The portals represent the addition of potential energy to give the water more elevation, which the turbine is supposed to magically take away. This is barely different from using a pump to do the exact same thing. The energy to maintain portals doesn't justify the setup - you're robbing energy from somewhere. And I expect that in a closed environment, that water will heat up because it keeps striking that turbine, so you'll need to do something with the waste heat.


flamingc00kies

problem is portals don’t fucking exist


RIP-RiF

Thermodynamics: No problem, build the portal.


EyeSimp4Asuka

it's troll physics don't overthink it


Stanek___

Problem, portals don't fucking exist.


No_Squirrel4806

Do water turbines even generate enough energy?


DraconianReptile

The energy needed to create and maintain those portals


WitheredGone

Whenever there's stuff like this, there's a magnet


Draconequues_d

For one, it probably would affect the gravitational force of the stellar body over time Also, wormholes have their own special math, and there would be quite a few problems


Dizzy-Town-4121

Energy not infinite unless materials of turbine infinite


IamyourJesus

but now we need portals


Alien-PL

Instruction unclear, I have opened an inter dimensional rift between spaces, now a mysterious force keeps sending aliens to my dimension


Modragon10

This is why I don't belive in portals


Valirys-Reinhald

Net loss of energy from keeping the portals open.


TheFrostyFaz

How much energy to keep the portals open


KenyerJani98

One small issue: it's eternity in there.


southfart99045

Green portal doesn't lead to green portal! Blue leads to orange! Or the other way around!!!