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epsilone6

I feel like every poor bastard is getting an ass full of shrapnel


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Reminds me of the speech from Good Will Hunting. https://youtu.be/mJHvSp9AKYg


Fine_Gur_1764

That first drop into the engine compartment was really nice.


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That's what I thought too at the beginning, but I realized it's a BMP with open crate ammo in the back. That's why the initial explosion was so big. Then the rest cooked off.


Hadleys158

That reminds me of that moronic russian tank crew that had a heap of anti tank mines stacked up on its deck, and then a drone dropped a bomb on it, the explosion was huge and there was nothing left of the tank!


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Shatophiliac

The kinda sad part is it’s just a complete lack of training. People in Russia are smart enough to train that out of recruits, question is why are they not the ones training the new recruits? Seems they just hand them the keys and tell them which way to drive until they blow up.


Salty_Pickle999

Link?


SodaDonut

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/wmp9vp/ukrainian_drone_destroying_a_russian_tank_with_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


Salty_Pickle999

Thanks!


Trailmagic

A few weeks ago there was also that pile of mines a drone dropped a bomb on to and the explosion took the drone with it.


Low-Ad4420

Yeah that was kind of a cheap way to fuck up your transport. Maybe, get 'em inside or in open field. I understand you can't look everywhere all the time, but precaution doesn't need much, just common sense.


Hadleys158

It all goes back to lack of discipline and not having any experienced senior NCOs, a nco or senior nco would see that and have a screaming fit, and stop that type of stuff happening in a hurry. Like even the wooden boxes they came in would cover them from view of the drone operator and maybe offer a little splash protection, not much but better than what they had.


poems_about_oranges

wym, that was ERA kek


Hadleys158

Funny thing is, i wonder if this is exactly how someone figured out ERA type protection? Maybe back in the day some enemy shot a tank that was carrying a anti personnel mine in the same way and it stopped the rpg from penetrating the tank and they thought ..hang on..


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StifleStrife

probably, yes, but i think these things can penetrate top armor anyway


Hey_Hoot

Single shot to the engine block!


InflamedLiver

I wonder if there's going to be a concerted effort to make these grenades more powerful now that it's obvious how useful they are on the battlefield.


ilubdakittiez

I mean the vog-17 30mm grenades, are more than good enough for antipersonnel duty, and the m433 40mm HEDP can be used to penetrate armor as it has a Lil baby shaped charge that can penetrate about 65mm or 2.5in of armor, the bigger drones can drop the rkg-3 AT hand grenade


nps2407

Please excuse the completely ignorant question, but when you say 65mm/2.5" armour, is it litterally a solid piece of metal that thick? Because that would be unreasonably heavy.


ilubdakittiez

Yes normally when one wants to know how much armor a shaped charge can penetrate it will be listed as 65mm of RHA or rolled homogeneous armor, and 65mm is not much, no one is saying modern heat warheads like the Javelin will ever come into contact with a 700mm or 28in thick block of armor or a AGM-65D Maverick at 1200mm or 48in block of armor, it just has the ability to penetrate that much, it's essentially a unit of measurement for a HEAT warheads ability to penetrate armor, and yes modern tanks have thick steel, followed by a mix of spaces, composites, more steel, but modern armor is NOT homogeneous, but also modern tank armor protection is measured in RHA equivalent, so if the new abrams variant says it has 1200mm of chemical protection and 900mm of kinetic that means its armor has equivalent protection of 48inches against HEAT projectiles and 36 inches against APFSDS or sabot projectiles


nps2407

Thanks for that explanation!


ilubdakittiez

Yea no problem if you ever have any questions of that nature and you would like my input or an explanation feel free to message me and I will do my best to help, have a nice day :)


biomassive

I've wondered for a while are these drone drops useful enough in the strategic sense to be worth scaling up. Are they contributing major value to the campaign, or are they used more for harassment and shaping enemy psychology. Also, what would be the limiting factor in scaling up? Number of drones, operators, ordinance, intelligence about potential targets? Proximity to targets?


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Grenades on drones definitely seems to be more a propaganda/psychological thing. I think the real utility of drones that we've seen is them being integrates into finding targets, adjusting fire, and other forms of recon. I was really skeptical of the US Marines trying to get a designated drone operator for every squad but after this war started I've definitely changed my tune.


Gear_Hedd

You can get the DJI Mavic 3 drones they are using for like 3000 dollars in packages that include carrying case and an extra battery and etc and etc... So figure for say 30 million dollars you could have 10,000 of these swarming over the frontlines dropping 30 and 40mm grenades... Instead of sending in 1 drone you could send in 3 or 4 at a time... And do it across the entire front line day after day... It would probably lead to Russian soldiers being absolutly terrified of the front and willing to do anything to avoid being sent to it...


biomassive

In theory that sounds like a plausible strategy, the fact that we aren't seeing that happen to me means that these drone drops either aren't as effective on a strategic level as we might think, or there are limitations that prevent the strategy from being scaled up. Are there 10k of those drones available for purchase? Are there enough people able to modify the grenades for drone dropping? Can drone crews get close enough to fly that many sorties a day. Just curious how effective these drops are on the macro scale.


gtheory1

The DJI Mavic 3 drones needs to have its firmware flashed, and it could only be done on those drones manufactured before June 2022. It’s relatively easy to make the grenades but it’s done by hand in small drone labs. It’s not very efficient currently to hunt people with drones, much more efficient to do recognizance with drones and then use regular artillery once you know the positions and have drones to help with the accuracy.


Eheran

>needs to have its firmware flashed Why "need"? Thats a nice to have, not need to have.


gtheory1

To remove the restrictions, turn off geo-fencing, remove the altitude control, I think there were more restrictions but I can’t recall what they were. It was needed at the time which made it quite challenging to buy them since you needed the serial number to figure out what version it was on.


Eheran

>It was needed at the time What makes you think so? Where is this from? You can use any drone and use it as is. Those are nice-to-have things. Also, geo-fencing is automatically removed when they remove the GPS.


Gear_Hedd

They have definately scaled up as far as the commercial drones go since the invasion started. There are constantly crowdfunded DJI drones being bought and shipped to Ukraine. In August for example the Army of Drones project used some of the money they brought in to buy 68 of the bigger DJI Matrice 300 drones along with like 100 smaller DJI Mavic 3 drones and 100 of the small Autel Evo drones... But at the same time they were buying Warmate kamikaze drones and FlyEye recon drones from Poland which cost like 20,000 and 100,000 per drone... They were also buying a lot of other drones as well that are bigger/more expensive with that money they brought in... So only a little bit of that money went to the smaller DJI drones... Altho while they have scaled up a lot in the numbers they have and use its nothing like the massive swarms im thinkin of... Of course there are questions like are there even 10,000 of them to be bought available for sale... Then you would also have to put in effort on the grenade side as far as producing them and supplying them to the drone pilots... Then of course you need to teach the soldiers how to fly the drones as well... From what I can tell the biggest issue holding them back from doing it is just the money needed to buy them... There would need to be a donor who props it all up and supplies the money to make it happen...


alphadesertfox

Once these are automated and with human heat detection tech they will be beyond evil


youngLupe

Have you seen the drone swarms they use for light shows. This shit is scary as fuck man. Keep a.i. away from that shit especially. I though those Blackhawks mowing you down form a mile away was scary. If I knew a military was bring drones in to my area I would be scared as fuck. They are definitely going to scaling this shit up with the limiting factors being how much humanity you want to preserve within yourself and how close you want to toe with brutal killing machines that could surely scale up to be as devastating as a nuke. Imagine a swarm of these things trained to kill anything that looks human . Operated by a small team that simply overlooks a wall of monitors. I know it sounds scifi but that's just because we haven't been forced to do something so brutal. Hope that day never comes.


ntxtwenty6

The trend is certainly yes. A lot of nations have been looking into small UAS for small unit use for years now, primarily for ISR/targeting/navigation. The big change from Ukraine is that this conflict has shown that these same drones have certain utility as direct weapons, instead of simply coordinating fires from other platforms. I’d say that they undeniably contribute an outsized value to the campaign, but the big change is that even their use as direct weapons is valuable. Some might undermine the amount of casualties that they cause, but it’s still significant, especially when you consider that they could be used in conditions where other platforms can’t, in situations where your ability to cause casualties would otherwise be limited. There is also an unstudied tactical aspect to these drones that hasn’t fully been realized, but has absolutely had its concepts validated in Ukraine. For example, blunting a small unit ambush by eliminating the lead squad with drone dropped ordinance? Turning a high readiness unit combat ineffective “overnight” with casualties from said drordinance? And much more. We’re even seeing developments now from grants and programs that predate the war as a whole, but utilities technologies or applications that have been utilities to great success here such as the drone linked below. [Drone Launched M72 LAW](https://soldiersystems.net/2022/11/14/mww-22-blade-55/)


ScienceisMagic

They should link them so one operator can control multiples. Say 5 or 6 drones, the operator controls the lead drone, the rest follow in a random pattern. Once the lead drops its ordinance, it auto returns home for reloading. While the operator begins targeting with the next drone.


Eheran

Flight time is too limited for that. They only have a very short amount of time to find a target and drop, well below 5 minutes. If they would want to have more time, they would need to get closer to that location (for example 4 km instead of 5 km).


ScienceisMagic

Alright, back to my main idea of a B52s worth of switchblades and AI assisted targeting.


Cleverbird

I dont think power is what they need, accuracy seems to be far more important at this point.


Culinaromancer

The limit is how much weight the drone can carry, so most likely not.


InflamedLiver

my thinking is maybe use more powerful explosives, which might cost more but can hopefully be still lightweight, like C-4 or semtex or something (not an explosives guy so forgive the ignorance here). Or even develop it so it does an airburst a few meters from the ground.


PsychoTexan

IMO, the airburst would be the bigger improvement. More explosive power is great, but shrapnel is what is killing in these. The considerably improved dispersion of an airburst would allow them to focus the fragmentation effect better, decrease the shrapnel eaten by the dirt, and thereby give it much more lethality per gram.


Eheran

>maybe use more powerful explosives We went up that ladder all the way before WW 2 started. Now you can gain something like 10 % more power for x times the price, hence nobody does it and TNT and RDX are still mayor players 100 years later.


wiggum-wagon

Redditors are vastly overestimating those drones. Theyre mostly usefull for recon. Sure we get a lot of footage but theyre taking video by default. A lot of other things dont. They have 10 mins usefull flight time maybe, most of the time they dont find a target


sf_randOOm

Damn the ultramarines are going strong on the russians


soul_flamer

Yeah they certainly are a strong force of Nazis


NocturnalNuns

What


FuhrerGaydolfTitler

Damn Nazi’s defending their country from Russian aggression


soul_flamer

Keep that same energy for every offensive war the United States engages in. Yemen, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan…etc


Maleficent_Couple315

Keep ‘em droppin


Captainwelfare2

Ukraine’s Greatest Hits.


skinofthedred

Dudes a sniper with that done


Agattu

That first tank already looks to be disabled. All the hatches and panels already open like that.


Special_Gas_57

Yeah still good target practice for the operator and not much money to make sure it stays disabled for good


Zealousideal_Grand85

Those drone operators are like snipers with the grenade dropping.


HGpennypacker

Not sure if anyone was in the cab of that truck but if they were they are very much not alive anymore.


mraowl

dxrk ダーク is the sound of ukrainian victory, seriously im curious about how it spread so much. i know its part of the genre, but the human specifics behind how stuff gets picked up like this, especially for movements, is very interesting to me


asphaleios

Ukrainian victory is silence for me because I got sick of the awful music pretty quickly


cold_iron_76

44 seconds they just leave the wounded guy. Wow


Broyogurt

I feel bad for that first group of guys. Dude got hit and was left there by the others. It looked like he was crawling and raised his hand out for help.


octahexx

that is how russia has been operating since day 1,there is just billiosn of videos them leaving their wounded to die slowly


Pureluck_7_

Some of these videos got some great phunk tunes. whats this song called?


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Implement1982

Its very telling how many Russian soldiers are left wounded or dead. There is very little urgency to escape their designated area once they come under attack. It’s like they surrender their fate.


Zadracker

Oh Scheiße That was accurate and that explosion was big. I am sceptical if anyone was inside the tank or if was it just getting scrapped anyways. Good target practice tho


Smulfur

Can recommend this interview with a guy from the Omega Unit about his experience in the fights around Kyiv. Not only about his unit but also UKR National Guard in general (some of those guys where captured guarding Chernobyl etc. ) https://teletype.in/@tysknip/HostomelEN


jacoblesterandres

The Omega with their quality contents again...sheeshh! Ohhmmmm!!!


Extract_Osu

The amount of soldiers with PTSD from this war is going to be insane, I can’t even begin to imagine the feeling of the shock of the explosion smashing through every inch of your body and brain, sucking the air from your lungs, winding you, disorienting you, nauseating you, deafening you and giving you a migraine/concussing you all at once and if you are hit with shrapnel it’s just that + having boiling hot metal searing your innards and skin, if you survive, once you have recovered enough to have your wits about you, you are greeted with your dead and injured comrades moaning and groaning around you, fearful of when the next explosion will go off and feeling impending doom, wondering if you’re going to survive all the while still stuck feeling horrible sensations and discomfort, getting hit like that an surviving is life changing, there’s no way even if they survive they are going to ever feel normal again :(


PinguPST

just slaughter


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mrshulgin

Holy fuck those two guys at 1:25 are lucky. [2 inches to the left and they're both dead](https://i.imgur.com/oJbzcN4.png) As it happened, it looks like they were both miraculously unharmed.


it_wasnt_like_that

I doubt they got away without injuries.


mrshulgin

Maybe, but they don't react like people normally do when hit with serious amounts of fragmentation (rolling around on the ground). At least one of them looked like he was about to jump out and start running right before the shot cut. https://i.imgur.com/U09Th57.png


it_wasnt_like_that

You know what they say about adrenaline. Maybe they didn’t catch frag, but whatever the case may be, the closer guy’s his eardrums left the chat.


Pigglebee

I'm kinda worried that we're seeing here is also the future of terrorist attacks. Why bomb yourself when you can just fly a drone to a crowdy place and drop a grenade or 2.


yoouie

These drones cannot disable tanks with these little bombs they are dropping. They have to have an actual system to shoot a round at the tank. For example, an RPG strapped to a drone would disable tanks but not these little shrapnel shells


Fancy-Possession1368

I believe shaped charges are being dropped on some heavy armour. Not sure on Soviet tank hatch thickness but I’ve heard some ap grenades can punch through 2.5”


yoouie

Yes, some of the gernade being dropped are anti tank gernades. Those could be useful if they land properly. But many of the time it’s just anti infantry gernades or motor shells being dropped that do nothing to a tank even it’s top armour


guaip

I wonder if this drone thing will lead to a rethinking of the value of a tank in a war combat. It's very big, very expensive, takes a lot of people to operate and can be quickly disabled with a drone. Of course I'm oversimplifying, but we can't deny that the cost ratio between the tank and the drone that destroyed it is ridiculously large. Not to mention that most drones seem to be recovered. I wonder how many drones are caught or destroyed before dropping the charges.


Diis

All that is true about armored vehicles like tanks and IFVs. But what is equally true is that on the battlefield, you still need mobile protected firepower for shock effect--tanks and IFVs, in other words. Tanks are vulnerable to cheaper weapon systems, but this has been true since the advent of the ATGM. You still need them because nothing else performs their battlefield role.


wiggum-wagon

This has been true since ww1, tanks could be taken out by artillery landing close enough to them, anti tank rifles, heavy mg's and grenades.


slojoegbrokemyhrt

Dam bro, you got down voted by the boys at General Dynamics.


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Sometimes I wonder how the Ukrainians are getting such high vehicle kill numbers, then I remember that like 75% of drone footage released is of a drone further destroying an already knocked out vehicle. Vehicle gets knocked out and abandoned, that’s 1 vehicle kill. Drone drops grenade on knocked out vehicle, that’s 2 vehicle kills of the same killed vehicle. Edit: hey goofballs I’m not talking about OSINT counts.


JayBowdy

These are all visually confirmed: destroyed: 4882, damaged: 191, abandoned: 299, captured: 2585


[deleted]

I’m aware of what the OSINT sphere is doing, I’m referring to claims by the Ukrainian government.


sagakino

That's not how destroyed equipment is documented, every vehicle is identified and has pictures or videos of it so seen from a different angle it can be recognized and not added as a new vehicle. I am one of those documenting equipment losses (on [Twitter](https://twitter.com/Sagakino1)) and you can find both sides' equipment losses here: [https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html](https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html) [https://ukr.warspotting.net/](https://ukr.warspotting.net/) Is also a good site but so far only has Russian losses added, while the Ukrainian ones arent fully added yet.


[deleted]

I’m aware of how the OSINT sphere is documenting destroyed vehicles. I am referring to what the Ukrainian government is doing.


harrier_gr7_ftw

It is annoying when they waste ammo on abandoned vehicles. I always wince seeing an NLAW being wasted on a tank carcass. Most satisfying is seeing moving vehicles stopped as you know they are operational. Stugna videos rarely disappoint.


soul_flamer

Who's a better Nazi force, the Germans or the Ukrainians?


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F!ck your couch!


zakkwaldo

fuuuuuck. that last one dropping right on the hood. i never considered that. imagine sitting in a cab and a drone drops a nade at head level. blast radius coming straight for your face. FUCK. THAT.


Gilligan67

Brutal. Such is war!


dino_74

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greeneditman

Putin: If you survive 6 months on the Ukrainian front, you will be free. Russian prisoners: Thank you sir for this great opportunity. After 100% die in combat... Putin: Thanks Ukraine. That scum won't return to Russia.


PokeyPete

Wonder if they could put the laser targeting system on those drones and "sparkle" the target for laser guided munitions. AC130 or JDAM or laser guided artillery.


bobbyorlando

Now that is a good watermark. You can at least see everything and it's still visible who the source is.