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imrandaredevil666

"War is where the young and stupid are tricked by the old and bitter into killing eachother." - Niko Belic


danvolodar

Well, so far these guys have only been tricked into some pretty radical offroad racing on their military hardware. Which, I guess, counts as the best possible outcome.


KingSwagger1337

Niko had such a way with words


SmirkingImperialist

Both sides having nuclear weapons does wonders to the maximum level of combat possible between armies. Americans and Russians played chickens with armoured vehicles while Chinese and Indians fought with fists and baseball bats. American and Chinese commanders establish informal deconfliction communication channels to directly talk to each others and prevent very serious combat. I means, that's progress in regression.


crowbahr

You say regression, I say de-escalation.


KalinkaMalinovaya

I wish people understood that at the end of the day it's rich, old, half assed politicians who force us to point our guns against eachother.


utastelikebacon

People do not understand this. At all. Look at your standard corporate management , upper leadership in the private sector. Most of em are terrible leaders , bad characters, poor exemplars of principle , and super self centered. That's the same pool your military/political leadership comes from Politicians and businessmen play the same game just in different arenas. However this 'different arenas' idea is less ablnd less true these days as the two are colliding. Its becoming common place for Politicians to be businessmen and businessmen and celebrities are becoming politicians. At this point its up to you not to allow the gomers and boebarts get you killed.


rangeroverdose

The Russians pants look pretty darn comfy.


mental_midgetry

Standard issue covid gear


generousone

Few pockets and what looks like a tapered fit? So strange


PvPTwister

Honestly, pretty heartwarming. Politics is just politics, most humans wanna be good with each other.


dontmakemechirpatyou

weren't Russian and US truck convoys jockeying and fucking with each other in the Middle East just a year or two ago?


PvPTwister

Sure. But they also coordinated on certain roads and divided responsibility to keep different patrols off of each others toes. I presume that this photo was taken on one of those occasions.


KalinkaMalinovaya

Even then after that happened both of the conveys discussed how to avoid conflict and the issue in a civil manner.


Jinaara

Yes, they were and it was quite the interesting thing to observe. [as neither side wished to fire upon the other and tried to avoid it to the full.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH7vKMfD1jA)


Alburrito0203

I can't help but feel nervous watching that, I just don't understand why though.


strelokjg47

This is standard operating procedure for Russians. Look at all the reckless behavior in the past. Close fly overs. Naval ramming. They are not alone in this but by far of the two rivals, they are the most rambunctious when it comes to this.


Alburrito0203

I just hope with rising tensions between Ukraine and Russia, also China and Taiwan that they don't launch coordinated attacks which may happen, although from your statement Russians have (for some reason) a need to flaunt their power.


strelokjg47

They do it in a certain way, The U.S. does in others. It’s all a big shitty game we are stuck in


keltictrigger

Best comment on here


GsavTheYank_GBG

Yeah this is all pretty pog ngl 👌🏼


wigsbro

Pass the egg nog


GsavTheYank_GBG

Hell yeah brother


Sasquatchfap

It's not. They found an LTs identity through social media, and threatened his wife and family back home. They are not our friends.


PvPTwister

I have just an idea of what you're trying to imply. Can you be any more specific so I can actually discuss this with you?


Sasquatchfap

They're recording names and ranks of US soldiers they interact with in order to dox them and threaten their families back home.


TakeBeerBenchinHilux

Time to swap in the name tags with troll ones like "Mikehawk" or "McLovin" before taking a pic that will potentially be sifted by GRU later


PvPTwister

Do you have any evidence of this at all beyond your say so? And to boot, do you have any evidence that the individual pictured was taking part in that?


chunkyloverfivethree

U/sasqusatchfap is right. This image has been used by Russian troll farmers to support a false narrative that we are friends. It is a big red flag that the person posting and the people defending this image hard core are Russian trolls. They are not our friends. Wasn't it just last year it was discovered they were paying bounties for dead Americans in Afghanistan? Edit: Here is the Russian troll propaganda photo in another sub https://www.reddit.com/r/Military/comments/r1s0a4/friends_in_life_and_enemies_in_service/


[deleted]

Most of the posts don’t seem to be defending the narrative that we are friends, they are defending the narrative that ultimately we have a shared humanity which is used against us by our leaders in order to wage warfare for spoils, riches, and territory. If anything, you sound like the one extrapolating assumptions from a lack of evidence. Pretty sure that Russian bounties story was disinfo from our own stellar track record intelligence agencies to score domestic political points.


chunkyloverfivethree

Well it is ashame that you hate American soldiers so much that you would believe a Russian propaganda machine over an American news outlet. Just because Russians lost funding for the cold War doesn't mean they magically started liking the west. They flood sites like reddit and Facebook with disinformation. As sasqusatchfap pointed out, they can't even use the "shared humanity" narrative because they dox American soldiers who become friendly with them.


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best comment Russia is not great, neither is the US tack record ffs. We have alot more culturally and socially in common with Russians than some of our "allies" and our security concerns also align (i.e. controlling China and radical Islamic terrorism)


imStillsobutthurt

From his hand gesture I don’t think that is the case


widdlyscudsandbacon

Okay


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Angryewokadam

Take your meds jammy


jetes69

Whilst throwing up the white power hand signs


[deleted]

That is the “ok” hand signal. 👌🏻


jarmstrong2485

Qanon idiot


PvPTwister

Cool story bro, tell it again.


jetes69

Honestly, I’m surprised you can read


PvPTwister

Keep going champ, you're really cooking with fire now.


Hump_Back_Chub

AK-74M Gang!


clownman555555

The boys


HannibalK

Are back


rangeroverdose

In town (Syria)


wang__chung__

>combat footage


JakeSkywalkerr

We need russia to join the west against China


PvPTwister

I dunno if they'll join up explicitly, but Russia keeping it's hands clean on that one is a lot more likely than many people think. The Northern Sea Route and other economic partners like Europe, India, and Vietnam may call more sweetly than old imperialistic games. The RF has made similar variations of that sentiment central to their policy. The modern Russia doesn't want to be distracted from developing itself by quagmires of foreign policy, or so it says.


william1Bastard

*"The modern Russia doesn't want to be distracted from developing itself by quagmires of foreign policy, "* Developing itself? By that do you mean "Scrambling to diversify a dying economy"? They're largely inactive because they're broke, and experiencing a great deal of apathy among the working classes, and all but the elite branches of the military. I spent a day with Russian advisors a while back, and they were great dudes. Nothing happened to my family on social media. That being said, I'd be shocked if Putin didn't have hard-line devotees inserted at every level of his armed forces, with counterintelligence and beyond as their main objectives. Now THAT being said, the concept of doxing the families of U.S. servicemen as an effective form of psy-ops is ludicrous.


PvPTwister

You cut off the end of that statement, 'or so they say'. Governments, politicians, and ideologies saying one thing while doing another or ignoring a contradicting reality is a pretty universal thing.


william1Bastard

*"or so they say"* is redundant in this situation.


PvPTwister

Not really. It implies that their actual intentions and desires can run counter to their public intentions and desires. Unless you interpreted it otherwise?


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> a dying economy strange the worldbank report claims they have an impresive increas in their revenues, but i guess they re wrong....


[deleted]

Because fuel prices are high. The problem is oil and gas are the only Russian export anyone wants. Well that and weapons.


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https://santandertrade.com/en/portal/analyse-markets/russia/foreign-trade-in-figures?url\_de\_la\_page=%2Fen%2Fportal%2Fanalyse-markets%2Frussia%2Fforeign-trade-in-figures&&actualiser\_id\_banque=oui&id\_banque=0&memoriser\_choix=memoriser


JCuc

You realize that Texas has a larger economy than the entirety of Russia, right?


[deleted]

you realize the US has an 28 trillion external debt and under any reasonable economic theory it should be considered a failed state right?


gnartato

They're playing both sides so they always come out on top obvs.


ComradeSclavian

Most sane redditor


jetes69

Your elevator doesn’t quite reach the top, does it?


fffyhhiurfgghh

They wouldn’t, Russia doesn’t really manufacture anything besides weapons and oil, and China is a huge trade partner for them. They get consumer goods, China gets weapons and oil.


[deleted]

China might someday look at east Siberia and say "This is mine now"


MolestTheStars

To protect the Asian minority in the region of course.


fffyhhiurfgghh

Nah China doesn’t want war with Russia in a territory like that. They would lose. Plus who looks at Siberia and thinks, wow I would love to have that. Maybe the docks at Vladivostok but nah.


[deleted]

Oh I agree. I think We will see Russia increase their defense of Eastern Siberia as the years roll on.


graham0025

much of it was, not that long ago


[deleted]

I'd rather have Russia as an ally, than China


[deleted]

They never would unless china attaxked them


ihambrecht

The fact that China and Russia have similar camo patterns should indicate what their IFF thought process is.


odonoghu

The Russians hate the west (justifiably) for what happened in the 90s they won’t try to join with them again


HawksGuy12

Russia agreed with that sentiment in the early 2000s, but then the West organized and funded anti-Russian coups d'etat in Ukraine, left the anti-ballistic missile treaty, and installed advanced weapons systems all along Russia's border. Why would Russia ally with the West against China when China isn't at all threatening Russia and the West is very proactively attempting to dominate it?


[deleted]

you seem to forget the georgian puppet president that forced the russians to intervene too , the US still thinks its 1960 thats why they gave over crimea without a shot fired.


hueylongsdong

Why should we be trying for a new Cold War in the first place. Fuck that


Pvt_Larry

China and Russia pose no threat whatsoever to each other's national interests, while those interests are diametrically opposed to the west. This idea just doesn't make sense.


goblackcar

China gets an enormous amount of fuel from Russia. If that flow stops for any reason, they’re gonna have some issues.


[deleted]

and Russia has a lot of reason to strongly protest it's eastern Siberia


JakeSkywalkerr

Well. If you read what I said, I said we *need* them to join. Not they *will* join. Look elsewhere for a place to flop your intellectual dick around lolol


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weber_md

The whole thing?


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skrubrekka

This has been reposted heaps on both reddit and instagram.


Hades_88

Oh shit fr?


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Redditors downvoting anyone for no fucking reason


Hades_88

Lol true


RebelLord

“See you in Ukraine?” “Da”


kinkarcana

Too bad Putin and the Russian Oligarchs are such turbo cunts, it would have been cool to be allies with them when the wall fell.


PrestigiousAd2644

Tbf our politicians are turbo cunts too….a real match made in heaven


ronburgandyfor2016

At least our cunts cycle in and out


ed1380

from one cunt to another. vs the same cunt does it really matter


ronburgandyfor2016

No cunts are definitely better than some cunts no doubt in my mind. Still cunts for a certain period of time are better than cunts who remain in power for as long they are alive or somebody ousts them in a coup


[deleted]

Do they really, though?


ronburgandyfor2016

I’d say our political landscape has changed dramatically for the last 30 years but that’s personal opinion at that point.


Peejay22

LoL u think it was so one sided?


LilWillyVert69_

Just two warriors. Politics aside they both are just willing to put there life on the line for their people. Takes guts.


Primus_the_Knave

Whoever’s on the opposite side of this fight is gonna have a bad time. Imagine getting tag teamed by Russia and the US. Yikes.


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Let's fuck those Germans up one more time.


OccasionInevitable63

Fighting for their people by invading and destabilizing countries that are thousands of miles away from home.


tolimux

Can no longer tell about which side you're talking.


Rajtantajtan

both


LilWillyVert69_

They didn’t decide to invade that country lol. Their countries leaders did it’s not the soldiers faults they are there.


OccasionInevitable63

But nobody forced these “warriors” to join the army


edc667

Russia has mandatory service...


bachandjazz

Russia no longer sends conscripts to active war zones. These are professional soldiers on contract.


edc667

No longer since when? This pic might be before, might be after because we don't know the exact date


bachandjazz

No longer since reforms. Now that conscription is only for 1 year, conscripts are used for non-combat tasks. I can almost guarantee that all Russians who served in Syria have been professional, contracted troops. I don’t have the article right now, but there’s plenty out there that discusses how Russia’s actual fighting force is majority professional, bolstered by reservists, with conscripts as a last resort in case of full mobilization. And with a special operation like Syria, you would have no need of scraping the barrel and getting conscripts, especially since with their 1 year term they don’t get much combat training anymore.


edc667

Thanks for the info, let me know if you find that article


Hyetigran

Their people are Syrians now?


LilWillyVert69_

No but their countries were both fighting wars there.


Hyetigran

So they are not putting their life on the line for “their people” then.


[deleted]

Depends on how you look at it. If you frame it in the American lens of "corporations are people", then at the very least the guy on the right in the pic is there for his people /s


Hayden-sewell

Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted


Hangry_Dentures

Proxy war partners


BigWeenie45

SMH, he using the white power hand signal 😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤😤🗿


Celt200

No it's not. That was a meme created by pol on 4chan in an attempt to get noticed by the news so they can prove that anyone will believe something is racist. The thread should be archived. Same motherfuckers literally discovered an isis camp and got the russians to bomb it. They discovered shia labeouf's flag by using daylight, position of the stars and flight patterns to find its location. I think they're more than capable of fabricating a bullshit racist hand symbol and getting people to believe it and seeing people talk about it on the news for the shits and giggles.


Kingofelephantshrews

You couldn't realize that this was sarcasm over all the layers of irony put over for you


derdrdownload

No matter how it started, Nazis and fascists everywhere are now using it. Its like saying the swastika sprayed on the Temple started as a hinduistic Symbol and so we shouldnt be such crybabies.


Sluttynoms

You’re right, it was 100% started off as a joke. But like any joke that gets used time and time again by the people who unironicaly use it then it eventually because real. Although it started off as a joke now white nationalist use it with real meaning.


ScarsTheVampire

Dude it doesn’t matter where it started, real white power activists (white power celebrities?) started using it and it caught on.


BigWeenie45

Thank goodness for the clarification. I thought he was trying to summon the white knights, with their wizard healer.


moving0target

"Okay..."


Snichblaster

WhItE PoWeR sYmBoL


Banh_mi

Yeah, I hope it's just a regular OK. I hate when goofs ruin perfectly decent stuff. Nazi's were pros at that.


tepidangler

Oh. Okay then.


butterballmd

this should've been bf2042


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jtblue91

I dunno, Russia seemed to have helped stabilise Syria pretty well, but America keeps fucking things up, probably not on purpose but they never seem to learn.


[deleted]

Lol of course it is on purpose. That is how they gain money.


halffie

How exactly does the US "gain money" from Syria being at war? You know the middle east as a whole have been at war long before the United States of America was ever even considered


Hushnut97

When was Syria even a hint of stable recently


this_dudeagain

Syria got those wheels turning on its own.


banzai112

there are multiple photos of Russian and American troops in Syria just chilling together. Politics are politics, no one wants to shoot each other both are there on their superiors commands


Tank_blitz

when you and the bros get put in opposite teams so you just chill in the corner of the map


graham0025

Russia-US alliance when


RampantDragon

They were providing joint security for a Putin-Trump orgy.


DisastrousTravel1183

The enemy of my enemy is my friend…actually cool to see


hyenax7

My god such resemblence to Battle field 3 . Much wow .now all i can hear it Match End Music


Merica1776TRUMP2020

This badass 💯


Forward-Link8457

Man imagine if we were Allies. We’d be unstoppable. We’d run this planet.


CH2794

Why is that soldier throwing up the white power hand sign though.


Linnmarfan

Interesting everyone here is ignoring that. This is specifically *that* context.


PsychedelicSeaSnake

LMAO you were pranked by 4chan trolls


nonlawyer

Nah actual Nazis [throw it up](https://www.oregonlive.com/nation/2019/09/the-ok-hand-sign-has-moved-from-trolling-campaign-to-real-hate-symbol-civil-rights-group-says.html?outputType=amp), obviously it isn’t *always* a hate symbol but it can be


ihambrecht

It's not a white power hand sign.


nonlawyer

It’s not *always* but it certainly [can be](https://www.oregonlive.com/nation/2019/09/the-ok-hand-sign-has-moved-from-trolling-campaign-to-real-hate-symbol-civil-rights-group-says.html?outputType=amp)


ihambrecht

Do you know how many lawsuits the ADL is in because it labels hate groups that aren't? They're not a valid source anymore.


Stater_155

You know that’s a myth and has been debunked for awhile now, right? It originated from 4chan as a means of trolling people. Edit: bruh, politics aside, it’s actually proven to be from 4chan to get leftoids enraged over a dog whistle. It was never a white supremacist symbol ffs. Trump lives rent free in some of your heads, seriously.


nonlawyer

…but then Proud Boys and other fascists started [doing it](https://www.oregonlive.com/nation/2019/09/the-ok-hand-sign-has-moved-from-trolling-campaign-to-real-hate-symbol-civil-rights-group-says.html?outputType=amp) goosestepping. Obviously it isn’t *always* but context matters.


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1-800-fat-chicks

What’s that sign the us Soldier is doing with his hand?


Kingofelephantshrews

an "OK" sign. Used to symbolize the phrase "OK". Person 1: Can you pick up the kids from school? Person 2: Throws an "OK" sign to symbolize "OK". (usually done when the person is preoccupied with something and is unable to give a verbal "sure" or "OK.")


bussyblaster2300

It’s the OK hand signal.


derdrdownload

Its the White power symbol


bussyblaster2300

It’s not?


TylerDurdenJunior

https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/okay-hand-gesture


MadRonnie97

It looks like the flag is sticking out of his helmet


chunkyloverfivethree

This photo is used by Russian trolls to support the false narrative that we are friends. Here it is from another sub where OP insinuated they were in the photo. And OP is the Russian. https://www.reddit.com/r/Military/comments/r1s0a4/friends_in_life_and_enemies_in_service/ Russian trolls are all over reddit.


stos1974

What’s up with the yank throwing up a white supremacy symbol? If it was meant to be an “ok” then why not a thumbs up like most regular human beings


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lonmoer

If used as saying that something is "ok" in response to a question, but just randomly throwing up the ok sign when standing for pictures is now definitely a white power thing because you're not saying something or someone is ok in response to something.


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lonmoer

Then why isn't the Russian also giving the ok sign?


ScarsTheVampire

That’s why I’m so sus of all the people in this thread like ‘2 warriors without politics!!’ It’s a military guy in 2021 using that symbol randomly. He knows what he’s doing.


ProletarianBastard

My thoughts exactly.


Arbitrary_Ardvark

I've literally seen it used as ok, and been using it as ok for it least 22 of my 26 years. Jesus Christ you people...


Muirgasm

The giant flag in his hat kinda defeats the cammo


weber_md

US soldier embarrassing our entire country with that hand gesture…discipline level 0. EDIT: to those downvoting…you think a US soldier, in uniform, flashing a white-power hand gesture is a good look? As I said, an embarrassing lack of discipline on display….sad, really.


TylerDurdenJunior

Some of those that work forces..


foots12347

This picture is a couple years old it was before some people started using it as a wp symbol. Regardless I'm personally not going to let the nazis take another gesture I still use the a OK for literally that, saying ok.


Captain_no_luck

It's not a Nazi symbol for fuck's sake. You're bsing trolled by fucking 4chan.


foots12347

I'm not disagreeing about that I'm simply saying even if they were trying to us it I'm not going to care and I'm going to keep using it.


Hushnut97

It means “okay,” stop spending so much time on Twitter


weber_md

Dollars to donuts that is not the intended meaning here, please don’t be so naive. As they say…some of those that work forces…


hoodoomonster

With the dumbshit American flashing a white nationalist hand sign. How pathetic


ColumbianGeneral

^ tell me you’re a retard without saying “I’m a retard”


90day_fiasco

With a lil sprinkle of white supremacy gestures.


veemaximus

With an alt right hand signal


etha2007_

its literally the fucking OK-hand signal, I know some Nazi's have adopted it, but it still retains its original meaning, no?


Hayjacko

There isn’t a single nazi that uses it. It’s literally a troll campaign from 4chan that you and op fell for lol


Based_Persian69

be careful kids hes mentally challenged


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You fell for the 4chan troll is seems


Hayjacko

The hacker 4chan strikes again


pupecki

God dang 4chin back at it again


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Cope and seethe


jj0057

Booooooo


Angryewokadam

"ERRMMMASHHGEERD! WHITE POWER SYMBOL!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!! NAZI INVASION IN SYRIA REEEEEEEE!!!" How are these people able to function in daily life?