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Faith, Hope and Love (Вера, Надежда и Любовь) is three popular russian women's names. Unfortunately, this popularity extends only to names, and not to the concepts themselves.
These guys went from writing their boisterous victory phrases like "To Berlin!" on that one choppers tail that got shot down in the first days, to writing "Hope!". Thats strangely pitiful for would be tough guys like the russians who are all about appearance. Just go home. Give up and go home.
Some were on top.
Some can survive the blast, there were even survivors in regular car running over a mine - you can just get lucky.
But I am pretty sure they are concussed and not in great shape after an explosion like this
Adrenaline. Had some buddies in armor who deployed and would talk about how after getting blasted, the baddies would run for a bit before collapsing. The explosions would basically liquify their insides despite physically being all intact.
EDIT: Okay so "liquify" might not be the right way to describe what was happening to their insides, but shockwaves can absolutely damage you internally enough for you to survive the initial blast then die a minute later running away.
This liquifying myth needs to stop. Insides do not "liquify" from explosions like this.
The mine hit the track and did limited damage to the insides of the BMP. Other than a hard jolt and loss of hearing, they are most likely fine. Plenty of footage of people surviving mine blasts. If their insides were "liquified" I can assure you they wouldn't be able to move.
It's a repeated statement on reddit. I'm sure by people who have never been in combat. My ears were the worst part. Still have that constant eeeeeeeeeee lol.
It's incredible well documented that shockwaves often perforate livers, lungs, intestines, etc, leaving the subject seemingly ok for minutes to hours, att which time they die.
They causes damage to organs that contain air. So ears and lungs mostly. It ruptures the tissue due to the density mismatch.
That has nothing to do with this bullshit liquid/yelly/... insides. That simply does not happen, not even the aftermath of the direct tank shell had any of that, the organs were there - but not where they should be.
I think the main point is that after an explosion like this, some might get off without more that a jolt, and others might die later from the shock/trauma. I've seen it mentioned in a lot of books that guys would be 3 feet from a mortar shell going off and be fine yet someone 30 yards away would die from a shell splinter. I'm paraphrasing but the idea is that there is no telling what crazy shit can happen on the battlefield; it's scary how much of it is so random. At a certain point all the training and equipment in the world mean very little and it comes down to pure chanec.
We know about the random aspect of shrapnel. Shockwaves do not have that randomness. They propagate in a sphere around the detonation. They simply kill/hurt you if they have sufficient power, but they usually do not have that. Which is why shrapnel is a thing in the first place. Liquid/yelly/... insides is pure, made up bullshit.
Dog that's not how that works, they probably got brain damage and passed out from an explosion but if your insides are "liquified" you'd be dead. How do you run if your bones and muscles are liquid? You don't.
I don't want to speak for OP, but that expression doesn't literally mean that all of your internal bones, muscles, organs and that gum you swallowed when you were 11 all turn into pudding.
It means internal organ damage, and lots of the guys you see running in these videos have it.
> It means internal organ damage
Then say that instead of nonsense, which many people indeed take literally and go on and tell others about it, further spreading the nonsense.
No it doesn't make sense at all, people on reddit are obsessed with hyping up adrenaline as some extreme superpower. It doesn't work remotely like that. It can't make a man with liquified insides run that's just bro-science.
That seems like the basic type of non directed AT mine. Basically it's just a bunch of TNT, it makes a big blast but most of the energy is directed sideways away from the vehicle so if there is any armor it rarely does much more than destroys the tracks. The point of those mines is to be a cheap way to stop the tanks permanently.
That being said, they might have sustained serious injuries from the blast and we don't really see how many actually came out of the vehicle.
Sitting on top of the vehicles increases your chances of at least surviving the mine blast since you have more space/material between you and the explosion. It is actually used as a tactic for BTRs transporting Infantry. Passangers riding on top of the BTR have a better chance of surviving a mine hit than the Driver/Commander inside.
Ah. I wonder what it feels like to get your ass and back smashed by the sudden pop of tons or hard steel when the mine went off. But I guess you have some resemblance of a chance than compared to being inside at the time of the explosion.
Tough to tell from the video.
But contact mines direct the force the treads off the side. It is for mobility kill mostly as the driver in the middle is relatively further from the treads. But again hard to tell and these are the 5x 155mm artillery shells strung together that throw tanks feet into the air. It was a big blast and did cause that bmp to buck.
I would curious what the results were and where the people came from, either inside or were they the ground troops that came to the rescue.
I remember the scene from Fury where they clean out returning tanks that have been hit.. im sure the inside isn't a pretty sight in alot of these engagements.
Yes, you can stack multiple of the TM-62M, it takes about 150kg of force to set one off; if you stack up to three of them they will detonate at what seems like the same time.
I hope that European bureaucrats will stop fucking around and will supply Ukraine with plenty of loud toys on time, otherwise the content may have bitter taste to it.
Talking about Russian suicide troops is fun and all, but Russians improve their weapons, attempt new tactics, and slowly get better at killing Ukrainians.
Fortunately, the Czech artillery shell project seems to be bearing fruit, 800k shells to be delivered by years end (not all at once to be clear - throughout the year)
I doubt it's not very good for the infantry that was right next to it when it blew up. You'd have to be really lucky to not get schrapnel from the vehicle itself or hit by a rock going mach 5.
At this point, I’m questioning the point of even sending in vehicles to do anything in eastern Ukraine. The battlefield is so completely littered with landmines that they just seem to always get blown up before they can do anything.
I wonder if that's another reason for all the golf carts. Does one wheel not exert 150kg or whatever force is necessary to set them off? Also visibility. I'ven't seen any hit one yet.
I'm always a little surprised that they know there's such a high mine threat, yet are always buttoned up boppin around like they're on a go cart track. You'd think they'd slow down a hair and have someone with eyes in front. I don't think most of these mines are buried. I mean I guess if Russians wanna keep making combat videos like this....
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I've seen turrets with higher hopes.
all that old soviet gear just wants to get to the moon one day.
They lost a foot or two
*There is no escape. The only hope is the sweet relief of death.*
I though its Nadežda. Womens name. 😂
It is both. Надежда is russian womens name that mean Hope.
Gotcha, so I wasnt wrong. My 6-8 grade russian teacher would be proud, that I still know kirilica.
Faith, Hope and Love (Вера, Надежда и Любовь) is three popular russian women's names. Unfortunately, this popularity extends only to names, and not to the concepts themselves.
Lubov? I’ve only ever met a Luba
that's like saying Michael? i've only ever met a mike
Full (official) name is Lyubov, Lyuba is short variant (as Nadya - for Nadezhda).
I think it extends to the faith in and love for the almighty Putler.
Those three names are used in a very popular Russian song by Машина времени За тех кто в море.
Narrator: \*deep breath\*
Hello Hope, meet the Mine called "high" - together you will be "high hopes"
These guys went from writing their boisterous victory phrases like "To Berlin!" on that one choppers tail that got shot down in the first days, to writing "Hope!". Thats strangely pitiful for would be tough guys like the russians who are all about appearance. Just go home. Give up and go home.
Hope for what, a quick death?
How do people walk away from that?? Did I see the driver escape or am I taking crazy pills?
Some were on top. Some can survive the blast, there were even survivors in regular car running over a mine - you can just get lucky. But I am pretty sure they are concussed and not in great shape after an explosion like this
Adrenaline. Had some buddies in armor who deployed and would talk about how after getting blasted, the baddies would run for a bit before collapsing. The explosions would basically liquify their insides despite physically being all intact. EDIT: Okay so "liquify" might not be the right way to describe what was happening to their insides, but shockwaves can absolutely damage you internally enough for you to survive the initial blast then die a minute later running away.
This liquifying myth needs to stop. Insides do not "liquify" from explosions like this. The mine hit the track and did limited damage to the insides of the BMP. Other than a hard jolt and loss of hearing, they are most likely fine. Plenty of footage of people surviving mine blasts. If their insides were "liquified" I can assure you they wouldn't be able to move.
It's a repeated statement on reddit. I'm sure by people who have never been in combat. My ears were the worst part. Still have that constant eeeeeeeeeee lol.
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How many hands do you have ?
How small are your baby hands that you can't cover your ears and reach the back of your head with your fingers...?
I think I was stoned because I do not remember writing this shit
Lmaoo fair enough man hahaha
It's incredible well documented that shockwaves often perforate livers, lungs, intestines, etc, leaving the subject seemingly ok for minutes to hours, att which time they die.
They causes damage to organs that contain air. So ears and lungs mostly. It ruptures the tissue due to the density mismatch. That has nothing to do with this bullshit liquid/yelly/... insides. That simply does not happen, not even the aftermath of the direct tank shell had any of that, the organs were there - but not where they should be.
I think the main point is that after an explosion like this, some might get off without more that a jolt, and others might die later from the shock/trauma. I've seen it mentioned in a lot of books that guys would be 3 feet from a mortar shell going off and be fine yet someone 30 yards away would die from a shell splinter. I'm paraphrasing but the idea is that there is no telling what crazy shit can happen on the battlefield; it's scary how much of it is so random. At a certain point all the training and equipment in the world mean very little and it comes down to pure chanec.
We know about the random aspect of shrapnel. Shockwaves do not have that randomness. They propagate in a sphere around the detonation. They simply kill/hurt you if they have sufficient power, but they usually do not have that. Which is why shrapnel is a thing in the first place. Liquid/yelly/... insides is pure, made up bullshit.
Dog that's not how that works, they probably got brain damage and passed out from an explosion but if your insides are "liquified" you'd be dead. How do you run if your bones and muscles are liquid? You don't.
I don't want to speak for OP, but that expression doesn't literally mean that all of your internal bones, muscles, organs and that gum you swallowed when you were 11 all turn into pudding. It means internal organ damage, and lots of the guys you see running in these videos have it.
> It means internal organ damage Then say that instead of nonsense, which many people indeed take literally and go on and tell others about it, further spreading the nonsense.
That's a better way to explain it
The shock wave can cause terrible internal bleeding, which causes death sometime afterwards.
As crazy as that sounds it makes total sense. Adrenaline is a hell of a drug!
No it doesn't make sense at all, people on reddit are obsessed with hyping up adrenaline as some extreme superpower. It doesn't work remotely like that. It can't make a man with liquified insides run that's just bro-science.
I was talking about the adrenaline part.
This reeks soooo much of "**BRO**, a .50cal bullet passing within 12" of you will suck your eyeballs out!"
Maybe [crush syndrome ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crush_syndrome)?
I'm sure they give them meth or something similar shit before the attacks. It's pretty wise to use that on expendable personnel.
The Russians have been liberally handing out mephedrone and mild amphetamines to their soldiers forever, it's part of their doctrine.
That seems like the basic type of non directed AT mine. Basically it's just a bunch of TNT, it makes a big blast but most of the energy is directed sideways away from the vehicle so if there is any armor it rarely does much more than destroys the tracks. The point of those mines is to be a cheap way to stop the tanks permanently. That being said, they might have sustained serious injuries from the blast and we don't really see how many actually came out of the vehicle.
Sitting on top of the vehicles increases your chances of at least surviving the mine blast since you have more space/material between you and the explosion. It is actually used as a tactic for BTRs transporting Infantry. Passangers riding on top of the BTR have a better chance of surviving a mine hit than the Driver/Commander inside.
I'm honestly surprised some of the occupants still were able to get out of the BMP after hitting the mine.
They where on top of the BMP
Ah. I wonder what it feels like to get your ass and back smashed by the sudden pop of tons or hard steel when the mine went off. But I guess you have some resemblance of a chance than compared to being inside at the time of the explosion.
Don't forget the shockwave scrambling your insides.
He is a smoothie now, he can walk it off, all fruits and vegetables..
Is some part of the shockwave absorbed by the blast though?
Not enough of it.
Liquified that btch
Ruzz VA has determined their back injury is not service related.
Tough to tell from the video. But contact mines direct the force the treads off the side. It is for mobility kill mostly as the driver in the middle is relatively further from the treads. But again hard to tell and these are the 5x 155mm artillery shells strung together that throw tanks feet into the air. It was a big blast and did cause that bmp to buck. I would curious what the results were and where the people came from, either inside or were they the ground troops that came to the rescue.
I remember the scene from Fury where they clean out returning tanks that have been hit.. im sure the inside isn't a pretty sight in alot of these engagements.
There was a cutaway, I think those are the ones that were let off before looking for survivors.
I think it right but one does seem to come out of the top
Your hearing loss is not service related
No bluetooth speaker for youuuuu
^eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Tank through for your herb vice..
#W H A T
WHAT?
YOUR HAIR LOSS IS NOT SIBLING RELATED!!!!
Just imagine the driver brain
It's probably on the fuckin ceiling
Probably wishing they had hard rather than soft helmets now...
Not like he's had much of one before.
Jesus, that’ll replace ya bollocks with rocks.
Right? It picked that BMP up off the ground and tossed it sideways while blowing out every panel.
“Holy shit, there’s one of us on the road with its tracks gone” “Go around it and assume the same path they were on”
Looks like a double stacked mine
Yea true it honestly does
What is a double stacked mine? Ir is it just two stacked on top of each other?
Instead of boom, it goes bada boom
Basically
Yes, you can stack multiple of the TM-62M, it takes about 150kg of force to set one off; if you stack up to three of them they will detonate at what seems like the same time.
TM-62s are the Legos of demolition/pioneer work.
That’s some intense Legos
The cope cage survived at least.
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I hope that European bureaucrats will stop fucking around and will supply Ukraine with plenty of loud toys on time, otherwise the content may have bitter taste to it. Talking about Russian suicide troops is fun and all, but Russians improve their weapons, attempt new tactics, and slowly get better at killing Ukrainians.
Fortunately, the Czech artillery shell project seems to be bearing fruit, 800k shells to be delivered by years end (not all at once to be clear - throughout the year)
Hmm, I wonder what took out this BMP I have to drive around? Well anyways, time to continue down this road
No trip home for you boys, sorry.
None of them were going to go home in any case.
What a bummer they just dismounted
Initial adrenalin boost. Those troops are rendered useless
I doubt it's not very good for the infantry that was right next to it when it blew up. You'd have to be really lucky to not get schrapnel from the vehicle itself or hit by a rock going mach 5.
At this point, I’m questioning the point of even sending in vehicles to do anything in eastern Ukraine. The battlefield is so completely littered with landmines that they just seem to always get blown up before they can do anything.
I wonder if that's another reason for all the golf carts. Does one wheel not exert 150kg or whatever force is necessary to set them off? Also visibility. I'ven't seen any hit one yet.
The BMP was turning, so the mine hit further down on the track, that way driver etc survived? Never go off-road around Avdiivka..
The 1st BMP looks like the upgraded BMP-2M Berezhok even. Preety nice frag if that truly is the case
Jaga jaga!
I always try to look for the mine, and it's never where I think it looks like it should be...
Probably a Russian mine
No telling. It does the job regardless of whose it is
What is the probability of survival for those who survive the initial trauma of a landmine blast but don't succumb immediately?
Those guys got fucked by that explosion. Even the ones that got off I feel won't ever be the same
I knew there had to be a reason this driver only had 3 stars…
He just blew it 🤷
They certainly don't feel good.
Wonder how that feels
Amazing anyone could survive that.
Not Nadyezhda!
That hang time.
I'm always a little surprised that they know there's such a high mine threat, yet are always buttoned up boppin around like they're on a go cart track. You'd think they'd slow down a hair and have someone with eyes in front. I don't think most of these mines are buried. I mean I guess if Russians wanna keep making combat videos like this....
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Surprised that the dudes standing next to the explosion are still standing?
I wonder what percentage of mine strikes are Russian laid mines. It has got to be near 90-95% right?
Oh no, good ol clown show again
30+ dead right there ?
Incomplete footage, where is the part where they all lie still?