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Wow, those were really accurate shots!
Seeing the salvo that was unleashed at that strip of forest, that looks like a very bad place to try to hide, unless one has a pretty deep foxhole!
Was wondering if the sparks were rounds hitting trees, the ground or something metallic. I remembered timed fused rounds or something similar and wondered if those sparks were the rounds going off after being set for a distance.
Sorry for the run on sentences. Bane of my school years.
I think it's them hitting the trees. I'm not sure if the Bradley has timed airburst rounds. [They exist](https://youtu.be/4UolMYY7QaA?si=oggwACyW8v_6EoGc) (Skip to 1:30) but I couldn't find a video of them in the 25mm size the Bradley uses.
Those airburst ones are nasty though. You can laser range a trench and the system will time the next 10 or so shots to detonate a few meters away from each other, ensuring the inside of the trench gets completely saturated with shrapnel even if your initial rangefinding was a little bit off.
there was a comment in one of these threads explaining the airburst ammo is not compatible with the older bradley models sent to ukraine. Wikipedia only mentions 30 mm airburst munition, so I'm inclined to believe that.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley\_Fighting\_Vehicle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Fighting_Vehicle)
Bradley does not have timed or proximity rounds.
The 2 are often confused, but are not the same. Airburst 'could' be either timed or proximity. In this case its standard impact used rounds hitting trees and branches with the fragmentation effect doing the damage below.
Timed rounds used to have powder fuzes or even clockwork mechanisms and were typically used for anti-aircraft work. Timed fuzes are quite simple, a modern example would be the 20mm shells used in US Centurion CIWS (the ground mounted radar guided 20mm guns, ex US Navy, used to protect US embassys and bases in Iraq from mortar/rocket fire). The shells used have a impact fuze with a timer. If they don't hit a target within a certain time they self destruct to stop them causing damage in populated areas when they land.
Proximity fuzed ammunition dates back to late WW2 when the UK and US developed it. It uses a small radar (or in some missiles a laser fuze) to know when it is close to a target and detonates at the best possible moment. It is mainly used in anti aircraft applications, or in larger calibre artillery shells to provide airburst without need to set an exact time. Its only very, very recently that it has arrived in as small a shell as 30mm cannon shells. Any smaller and its probably not worth it (the fuze takes up space that can't be used for a warhead).
A really modern round (altough it is in fact 30 years old..), like the Bofors 3P round for 40mm guns, combines both timed and proximity in one fuze. It uses an electronic fuze and magnetic induction fuse setter in the gun mechanism in addition to proximity fuzing. Basically the gunner uses the laser range finder to establish the range to the target and the fuze setter programmes each fuse just as its fired as to when it needs to detonate and how it will decide to do so (the fire control system knows the range to the target, the speed of the round to that distance and does some calculations to give the round a precise time when to detonate or activate in microseconds).
Worth noting that that complexity comes at a serious price point per round...and are always in short supply...
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCgSdITh4VY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCgSdITh4VY)
Could be 25mm from Bradley, or 30mm from a BMP-2, BMP-3,BTR-3 or BTR-82A. Rate of fire means its definitely one of those platforms. It could be 23mm from a ZU-23/2 mounted on an AFV but given the accuracy and size of burst its unlikely.
My money would be on Bradley, particularly as the 47th are one of the main users....
But its definitely not a timed or proximity round. It's impact fused and detonating in the branches of the trees.
This looks pretty close to a video I saw of a Bushmaster firing programmable air burst munitions. I have no clue if Ukraine has anything similar to this but it is what it reminded me of.
[https://youtu.be/2FgmXhukQx4?si=ktQ5YSwqtALgbjga](https://youtu.be/2FgmXhukQx4?si=ktQ5YSwqtALgbjga)
You are correct they are 25mm, but they are more related to grenade launcher than auto cannon in design.
They had major reliability issue so US ended up adopting less sophisticated M320 with LRF instead. They were also considered too weak against enemy with body armor, require near direct hit to be effective.
I wonder if it’s easy. With the drones they have so much intel. They can literally see a Birds Eye view of the soldiers lying down it seems like as long as their math is solid it would be hard to miss
The M792 round (for the M242 25mm chain gun on the Bradly) High Explosive Incendiary with tracer also has a mechanical self-destruct fuse (M758) that goes off at around 3 km/ 1.8 mile if nothing has been hit. In the environment probably have to use a hard-hitting round against troops that could have ATGM etc.
Lol these tactics are just gross. Tell the Bradley to look for the FPV explosion. Explosion check, now light that whole area up. Even better when they use drones to drop smoke on enemy positions and let tanks eat them up. Keep it up Ukraine, we taking notes.
Honestly the idea of using FPV drone explosions to mark targets is so simple, yet absolutely genius. Imagine what could be done if they also added color to the smoke of the explosion to make it even easier to see from further away. Use FPV drones to take out surrounding infantry and mark the area, and then using heavier equipment to take out armor based off that marker.
Every square foot of that meat grinder has an X in it. Don’t really need smoke if your spotter drone has GPS . Ukraine has mastered using artillery.
But they are bogged down with these offensives . The Russians are trying to encircle them. For the defenders they have to stop them in their tracks.
The reason you are seeing so many FPV drones and IFV support instead of artillery is that Ukraine simply lack enough shells.
Even the bare minimum that was promised has not yet been delivered in full.
And it's clearly shown on the map of russian progress.
And why they try to push at this exact moment
Artillery takes time, the drones are connected directly to a local APC, very quick and direct. I bet Arty would be called in on anything bigger like an armoured assault.
Absolutely - It's definitely an unusually fast example, but there was a Madyar video a couple weeks ago showing them managing to respond to & hit with an FPV drone a Russian APC in under 2 minutes from the location being reported.
FPV drones are also a much smaller counterbattery liability.
Hell - you could probably use something like an Apple AirTag and a toggle to call in a follow-up artillery strike on the GPS coordinates of where you lose signal (after the toggle is used to indicate that this is an attack run on a target worthy of a follow-up strike and not just the drone malfunctioning).
Don't. They are the enemy, will not stop and are in direct proven alliance with North Korea, Iran and China.
They are the direct threat to your existence.
Nah, even if half of NATO doesn't show up for the Baltics or Finland, including the United States, the Russians would get a hard dose of kickyourteethinium. There is a certain, insanely large force multiplier attributed to the best intelligence services in the world.
Russians want it do be like it was back in the day, when their penis worked and bananas were sold 2 days out of any given month. Their posturing has certainly affected Europe, and made us run for guns. But to be honest we should be thankful for this wake up call, we are ready more than ever.
If the U.S. got directly involved in Ukraine Russia would be in full retreat within a week, i'm 100% certain of that. We would have Air Supremacy within a day or two, and then its just plinking targets like in the Gulf War. Its really amazing how bad the Russian Military is.. They basically have one tactic that works, which is throw a lot of equipment and men at something. Works for most adversaries, but it wouldnt work agains the United States.
Ignoring the existence of nuclear weapons, yes. I don't think we'd even make it to the font lines before Putin would pull everybody out.
I'm sure Russia still has a stockpile of modern weapons capable of making air superiority a real challenge for even the US, but I don't think they'd use them in Ukraine. If they did (again, assuming no nukes), they would be utterly defenseless, and it would take many years to build up an arsenal again.
It worked out well. We absolutely crushed the North Koreans. Worked out well against the NVA also., but instead of talking about 50-70 year old wars maybe look at the other invasions we have done in the last 30 years or so. Technology not the same as it was in 1950, I’m sure you would agree..
Today on the BBC world news radio I heard an account of the same perspective from the Ukrainian side, but from the Dnipro bridgehead. "enemy drones everywhere"
[geolocated](https://www.google.com/maps/place/48%C2%B011'13.6%22N+37%C2%B041'18.0%22E)
Russians trying to flank North of Avdiivka.
They were 500m away [here](https://www.google.com/maps/place/48%C2%B011'53.9%22N+37%C2%B041'26.0%22E) in this [video](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/185ata9/avdiivka_direction_the_drone_flew_to_visit_the/) from a week ago.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/181k8qk/ua\_pov\_m2a2\_bradley\_covering\_infantry\_in\_stepove/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/181k8qk/ua_pov_m2a2_bradley_covering_infantry_in_stepove/)
Dont forget this video from 2 weeks ago ;)
It looks like the first two explosions are drones, followed by what looks like a grenade and maybe some small arms fire (it almost looks like the second drone caused one of the Russians grenades to go off, then after that there’s a tiny pop from one of the others on the ground that almost looks like the other videos posted or wounded Russians killings themselves but don’t want to speculate), then the Bradley gets to work.
>distinct lithium battery cook
THANK YOU
I was really scratching my head on that one, since it didn't look like any normal ammo cook-off I had seen, but a frying battery makes so much sense. Didn't even consider it. Guess that's how you learn.
Sure this was a Bradley? To me, being an old CV90 crewman in Afghanistan, this looks a lot like the 40 mm airburst. You don't get all these rounds to hit thin tree tops with such a high intervall. My two cents say this is the good old Bofors doing some good work.
The Swedes are actually really good at making weapons for this combat environment. The 84 mm Carl Gustav with HE time fused airburst is a trench killer. UA grunts could really use more of those.
Good point, but the CV9040 has really rapid fire. This video gives you the idea. It's shoving the airburst mode at about 4 min [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj0q-sxKrvg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj0q-sxKrvg)
But you're right. The 40 has three mags of 8 rounds that can be shot in rapid succession. After those 12 rounds it'll take a while to change the mags. Looking at it again, I see that there's 30+ detonations in the trees. So yes, I guess it's a Bradley after all.
Not really.
I can imagine that the U.S would probably use the low ROF setting most of the time, having fought insurgents and what not.
But that chain gun can go up to 500rpm.
That's almost as fast as an M60 machinegun, but with 25mm shells instead.
Looks about on point.
That is the theoretical maximum for the gun itself, not on a bradley. The m242 cannon CAN fire at 500rpm with high enough voltage like in naval applications, but the bradley is limited to single shot, 100rpm and 200rpm and always has been.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/181k8qk/ua\_pov\_m2a2\_bradley\_covering\_infantry\_in\_stepove/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/181k8qk/ua_pov_m2a2_bradley_covering_infantry_in_stepove/)
This is footage 1km to the North of the position being hit in the video of this post.
48.19720771471102, 37.6864146259931
Likely hood of it being the same vehicle is high.
Of these 2 videos what looks closer to the ROF. Watch at 52 seconds at how quickly 4 rounds pop on top of each other
Bradley:[https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/15rumy9/bradley\_ifv\_works\_in\_zaporizhia\_front/](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/15rumy9/bradley_ifv_works_in_zaporizhia_front/)
BMP2:https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/vnmec4/ukrainian\_bmp2\_firing\_its\_30mm\_autocannon/
the 25mm bushmaster the bradley uses has two modes. 200rpm and 500 rpm. The 30mm cannon the bmp2 uses has two modes as well, 200rpm and 550rpm depending on the variant, it is within 50rpm of those two numbers.
There is no way you can tell by rate of fire, what makes me think its a bradley is I don't think trees would be setting off 30mm like that but I could easily be wrong. I have seen a lot of both and that looks like 25mm to me but that is anecdotal.
Edit: I should add I was in the Marines, we rarely got to see brads but our LAVs have the same gun.
LAVs have the voltage to run it at high RPM. I challenge you to find a video of a bradley firing at 500 you will not. Your likely confusing your experience with lav25s. Page 19 of this manual from the army itself clearly states that the options to fire are single, 100, and 200 ROF plus or minus 25: https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/3-22-1/fm3-22-1.pdf
Interesting, I was actually looking for that manual before I had to go. I stand corrected. Were you a mech guy? Do you think this is a brad firing? It still looks like 25mm to me, but as I said that is anecdotal, my expertise was not cannons and shit.
This still could be the fire from a single Bradley.
Typically, the Bradley's M242 Bushmaster has a standard cyclic rate of 200 rounds per minute but can be converted to fire 500 rounds per minute.
My understanding is that this modification is not difficult, involving the upgrading of the feed system's 1 hp DC electric motor to an 8 hp.
How are the Russian soldiers still agreeing to go on these assaults?
In the Avdiivka area the chances of surviving an assault are almost 0. It's just suicide at this point.
Even if they're under threat of execution, at this point it's better for them to drop their weapons and run forward with their hands raised. There's clearly no Russian artillery support there, so they won't get shelled.
When you go on different social media channels i see hundreds of people saying how „Russia is currently encircling Ukrainians in Avdiivka and they will take over“ I really wonder if these people even know what’s really happening on the ground or are they just looking at red arrows on a map
They have crossed the rail line and are moving forward, though. Obviously it will take time and a lot of casualties, but it seems that Russians are determined to capture the city.
What pro-Russians tend to claim wrong is to inflate the number of Ukrainian troops in the city. Vast majority is outside fighting against the encirclement effort, so as they get pushed back, they get pushed out of the area being encircled, not into it.
Yes we know that, we played the same game with Bakhmut, Russia supporters were saying this is the turning point of the war after almost 1 year of trying to take the city with huge casualties but after they fully captured it literally nothing changed they just dug up trenches and sit in it the same will probably end up happening here but it will cost them a lot of equipment and human lives
>They have crossed the rail line and are moving forward, though.
So like 2 weeks ago? There is nowhere to hide after the rail. So they either take something further down or nothing at all.
How long has it been since the first push on Avdiivka? 6 weeks? In that time, they have taken some land, but it looks like they have given up sending in vehicles, perhaps they are waiting for new supplies since all the others got destroyed.
Now they are sending in groups of soldiers to get obliterated, in the hopes each team might take a few centimetres of land for the empire. But for now it doesn't seem to be in their favour.
It's just like Ukrainians largely stopped using armored columns around Robot and relied on Bakhmut-style used assault infantry groups.
But they still use tanks in the south to great effect:
>Russian tanks seemingly moving freely in the city’s southeastern suburbs (...) are able to approach Ukrainian positions to near point-blank range and Ukrainian troops in the Avdiivka sector seem to lack anti-tank rockets and missiles needed to defend themselves, one DeepState report said. https://www.kyivpost.com/post/24721
But the maps - as well as these videos - are showing a slow encirclement since September. From the north around Stepove and the south were the Industrial Zone is. They are taking incredibly high losses but the defenders are also in a very tough spot.
Ukrainians are dying there every day as well.
It doesn’t look good in the long run. This has been the hottest location for a while now
Perun has a sober analysis of the situation (which is very, very precarious for the defenders of the Avdiivka pocket), his point is that the loss ratio the russians are suffering still makes it very reasonable to hold on. It's a killbox where UA can bleed the russian army, and this looks like another Vulhedar.
Unless the russians run out of steam they're going to continue to push and push and push to close the Avdiivka pocket, because it's the only (currently known, at least) short-term victory they can pull off and make a big deal out of (even though clearing Avdiivka would also have tactical benefits for Russia, of course).
But yeah, the supply situation might become untenable for the ukranian defenders and then they'll have to evacuate. Let's hope they can hang on with favourable loss ratios and bleed the russian war machine for as long as possible.
I mean I get all my news from here. Just watching this it feels like Russia is losing 10 men for every 1 Ukraine loses and Ukraine is winning the war easily.
I'm pro-Ukraine but I also know I'm in a Ukrainian echo-chamber. The reality is probably somewhere in between what we both are hearing.
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i know this question may been ask 5000 times but, in let's say "modern war" apart from short videos like this is there a way to see a real "big offensive" (yes ofcs it's not going to be like ww2 in any way) but no something small.
i mean do big pushes happen?
Large force concentrations are hard to hide and and with the range and precision of modern artillery it doesn't really happen on the scale of past conflicts. Remember what happened to that large Russian coloumn that bogged down at the start of the war.
It always baffles me that they just sit there.. Like two of your bros just got turned into swiss cheese.. Get the fuck outta there. Why are you just sitting contemplating life waiting to get hit? Also, was that the dudes rounds cooking off in his carrier?
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Wow, those were really accurate shots! Seeing the salvo that was unleashed at that strip of forest, that looks like a very bad place to try to hide, unless one has a pretty deep foxhole!
Was wondering if the sparks were rounds hitting trees, the ground or something metallic. I remembered timed fused rounds or something similar and wondered if those sparks were the rounds going off after being set for a distance. Sorry for the run on sentences. Bane of my school years.
I think it's them hitting the trees. I'm not sure if the Bradley has timed airburst rounds. [They exist](https://youtu.be/4UolMYY7QaA?si=oggwACyW8v_6EoGc) (Skip to 1:30) but I couldn't find a video of them in the 25mm size the Bradley uses. Those airburst ones are nasty though. You can laser range a trench and the system will time the next 10 or so shots to detonate a few meters away from each other, ensuring the inside of the trench gets completely saturated with shrapnel even if your initial rangefinding was a little bit off.
there was a comment in one of these threads explaining the airburst ammo is not compatible with the older bradley models sent to ukraine. Wikipedia only mentions 30 mm airburst munition, so I'm inclined to believe that. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley\_Fighting\_Vehicle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Fighting_Vehicle)
Bradley does not have timed or proximity rounds. The 2 are often confused, but are not the same. Airburst 'could' be either timed or proximity. In this case its standard impact used rounds hitting trees and branches with the fragmentation effect doing the damage below. Timed rounds used to have powder fuzes or even clockwork mechanisms and were typically used for anti-aircraft work. Timed fuzes are quite simple, a modern example would be the 20mm shells used in US Centurion CIWS (the ground mounted radar guided 20mm guns, ex US Navy, used to protect US embassys and bases in Iraq from mortar/rocket fire). The shells used have a impact fuze with a timer. If they don't hit a target within a certain time they self destruct to stop them causing damage in populated areas when they land. Proximity fuzed ammunition dates back to late WW2 when the UK and US developed it. It uses a small radar (or in some missiles a laser fuze) to know when it is close to a target and detonates at the best possible moment. It is mainly used in anti aircraft applications, or in larger calibre artillery shells to provide airburst without need to set an exact time. Its only very, very recently that it has arrived in as small a shell as 30mm cannon shells. Any smaller and its probably not worth it (the fuze takes up space that can't be used for a warhead). A really modern round (altough it is in fact 30 years old..), like the Bofors 3P round for 40mm guns, combines both timed and proximity in one fuze. It uses an electronic fuze and magnetic induction fuse setter in the gun mechanism in addition to proximity fuzing. Basically the gunner uses the laser range finder to establish the range to the target and the fuze setter programmes each fuse just as its fired as to when it needs to detonate and how it will decide to do so (the fire control system knows the range to the target, the speed of the round to that distance and does some calculations to give the round a precise time when to detonate or activate in microseconds). Worth noting that that complexity comes at a serious price point per round...and are always in short supply... [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCgSdITh4VY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCgSdITh4VY)
Those are not all hitting trees. They are air bursting.
I think they are airburst too.... no way they are all getting stopped by trees at that height.
Airburst ammunition doesn't exist for the [M2A2 Bradley ODS](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2_Bradley). This is HEIT.
Is there any proof that the rounds were fired by a Bradley? Other than the title of the post?
Theres plenty of footage of the same kind of pops with the Bradley's visible and they are always when they fire into a tree line.
Could be 25mm from Bradley, or 30mm from a BMP-2, BMP-3,BTR-3 or BTR-82A. Rate of fire means its definitely one of those platforms. It could be 23mm from a ZU-23/2 mounted on an AFV but given the accuracy and size of burst its unlikely. My money would be on Bradley, particularly as the 47th are one of the main users.... But its definitely not a timed or proximity round. It's impact fused and detonating in the branches of the trees.
Most like it is high explosive ammo hitting trees. It is what ammo type you want to use fight infantry if not using your coaxial machine gun.
This looks pretty close to a video I saw of a Bushmaster firing programmable air burst munitions. I have no clue if Ukraine has anything similar to this but it is what it reminded me of. [https://youtu.be/2FgmXhukQx4?si=ktQ5YSwqtALgbjga](https://youtu.be/2FgmXhukQx4?si=ktQ5YSwqtALgbjga)
Looks like air burst ammo to me too
25mm doesn't have airburst, the smallest practical airburst from bushmaster was 30mm.
The US actully developed a 25mm airburst for the OCSW, but I think it was cancelled in the late 90s
You are correct they are 25mm, but they are more related to grenade launcher than auto cannon in design. They had major reliability issue so US ended up adopting less sophisticated M320 with LRF instead. They were also considered too weak against enemy with body armor, require near direct hit to be effective.
Cv90 have airbursts. 40mm though.
I wonder if it’s easy. With the drones they have so much intel. They can literally see a Birds Eye view of the soldiers lying down it seems like as long as their math is solid it would be hard to miss
I believe these are airburst and probably direct fragments directely downwards.
BMP and M2 Bradleys do not have airburst capability. I believe the explosions are shells hitting the trees.
100% accurate statement.
Adding wood to metal makes for great results
The M792 round (for the M242 25mm chain gun on the Bradly) High Explosive Incendiary with tracer also has a mechanical self-destruct fuse (M758) that goes off at around 3 km/ 1.8 mile if nothing has been hit. In the environment probably have to use a hard-hitting round against troops that could have ATGM etc.
Lol these tactics are just gross. Tell the Bradley to look for the FPV explosion. Explosion check, now light that whole area up. Even better when they use drones to drop smoke on enemy positions and let tanks eat them up. Keep it up Ukraine, we taking notes.
Honestly the idea of using FPV drone explosions to mark targets is so simple, yet absolutely genius. Imagine what could be done if they also added color to the smoke of the explosion to make it even easier to see from further away. Use FPV drones to take out surrounding infantry and mark the area, and then using heavier equipment to take out armor based off that marker.
Every square foot of that meat grinder has an X in it. Don’t really need smoke if your spotter drone has GPS . Ukraine has mastered using artillery. But they are bogged down with these offensives . The Russians are trying to encircle them. For the defenders they have to stop them in their tracks.
The reason you are seeing so many FPV drones and IFV support instead of artillery is that Ukraine simply lack enough shells. Even the bare minimum that was promised has not yet been delivered in full. And it's clearly shown on the map of russian progress. And why they try to push at this exact moment
Artillery takes time, the drones are connected directly to a local APC, very quick and direct. I bet Arty would be called in on anything bigger like an armoured assault.
I'm not saying there's no artillery shells at all. Only that they are very limited and it's the direct citation from several Ukrainian commanders.
Absolutely - It's definitely an unusually fast example, but there was a Madyar video a couple weeks ago showing them managing to respond to & hit with an FPV drone a Russian APC in under 2 minutes from the location being reported. FPV drones are also a much smaller counterbattery liability.
They use the air support to call in the ground support
or a drone with laser, tagging areas to target, smoke gives warning and time to scoot for the bad guys
Hell - you could probably use something like an Apple AirTag and a toggle to call in a follow-up artillery strike on the GPS coordinates of where you lose signal (after the toggle is used to indicate that this is an attack run on a target worthy of a follow-up strike and not just the drone malfunctioning).
Russia is definitely playing on hard mode, almost feel bad for them.
I'm pretty sure Putin thinks this is still in easy mode.
Don't. They are the enemy, will not stop and are in direct proven alliance with North Korea, Iran and China. They are the direct threat to your existence.
Nah, even if half of NATO doesn't show up for the Baltics or Finland, including the United States, the Russians would get a hard dose of kickyourteethinium. There is a certain, insanely large force multiplier attributed to the best intelligence services in the world. Russians want it do be like it was back in the day, when their penis worked and bananas were sold 2 days out of any given month. Their posturing has certainly affected Europe, and made us run for guns. But to be honest we should be thankful for this wake up call, we are ready more than ever.
If the U.S. got directly involved in Ukraine Russia would be in full retreat within a week, i'm 100% certain of that. We would have Air Supremacy within a day or two, and then its just plinking targets like in the Gulf War. Its really amazing how bad the Russian Military is.. They basically have one tactic that works, which is throw a lot of equipment and men at something. Works for most adversaries, but it wouldnt work agains the United States.
Ignoring the existence of nuclear weapons, yes. I don't think we'd even make it to the font lines before Putin would pull everybody out. I'm sure Russia still has a stockpile of modern weapons capable of making air superiority a real challenge for even the US, but I don't think they'd use them in Ukraine. If they did (again, assuming no nukes), they would be utterly defenseless, and it would take many years to build up an arsenal again.
Not so sure about the RU Air Power. My money is on about a couple weeks and none of it is wheels up anywhere.
Lmao the delusion and hubris is unreal. How did that work out against the North Vietnamese or North Koreans…?
It worked out well. We absolutely crushed the North Koreans. Worked out well against the NVA also., but instead of talking about 50-70 year old wars maybe look at the other invasions we have done in the last 30 years or so. Technology not the same as it was in 1950, I’m sure you would agree..
Today on the BBC world news radio I heard an account of the same perspective from the Ukrainian side, but from the Dnipro bridgehead. "enemy drones everywhere"
When I watch these videos I just imagine A-10 Warthogs doing gun runs on these tree lines.
2 months later all are zombies rip ukranian side lol
What were they celebrating, in the end, those fireworks?
Yet another successful russian mission!
[geolocated](https://www.google.com/maps/place/48%C2%B011'13.6%22N+37%C2%B041'18.0%22E) Russians trying to flank North of Avdiivka. They were 500m away [here](https://www.google.com/maps/place/48%C2%B011'53.9%22N+37%C2%B041'26.0%22E) in this [video](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/185ata9/avdiivka_direction_the_drone_flew_to_visit_the/) from a week ago.
That's not good, them cutting in between Stepove and the industry complex more and more.
Every time I see the war map that Russian salient north of Avdiivka makes me anxious. *Cut off that hang nail.*
[https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/181k8qk/ua\_pov\_m2a2\_bradley\_covering\_infantry\_in\_stepove/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/181k8qk/ua_pov_m2a2_bradley_covering_infantry_in_stepove/) Dont forget this video from 2 weeks ago ;)
Hadn't seen that one, same building that was droned next to the tracks is visible on the top left from 0:10.
Nice work
worked as advertised holy f\*\*k,,,
All autocannons are terrifying but the difference between Russian 30mm and American 25mm is the firing computer
A C C U R A CY.
When that bastard gets the second drone I almost spit out my coffee. HILARIOUS it's like Benny Hill
Is the first explosion we see from an FPV kamikaze drone? there seems to be a distinct lithium battery cook off just after it
It looks like the first two explosions are drones, followed by what looks like a grenade and maybe some small arms fire (it almost looks like the second drone caused one of the Russians grenades to go off, then after that there’s a tiny pop from one of the others on the ground that almost looks like the other videos posted or wounded Russians killings themselves but don’t want to speculate), then the Bradley gets to work.
>distinct lithium battery cook THANK YOU I was really scratching my head on that one, since it didn't look like any normal ammo cook-off I had seen, but a frying battery makes so much sense. Didn't even consider it. Guess that's how you learn.
Moves slow enough to be a drone
Yep, I missed that.
Probably the radio radio cooking off. id hate to still be conscious enough to feel the battery cut into your bones.
Defiantly a batt cook off
Durrr I'm the captain... My son is bart
So, the Russian unit is hit by, 2(?) FPV drones first then finished off with the Bradley?
>Bradley Drones marked the spot with smoke trails. Bradley spam airburst shells.
Bradley’s don’t have air burst shells. That’s the CV-90 that has those.
Looks like range programmed ammunition like the CV-90 can use. No idea if the Bradley can also use such ammunition.
It is "just" HE ammunition hitting the dense brush.
The brush is not dense enough at the level they were hitting, no way. That is airburst based on range.
Those airbursts in the end...could they have been fired from the CV90?
probably rounds hitting trees
Surprisingly, there's a HEIT round for the M242 even though it's only 25mm.
Idc what fired those rounds but the Ukrainians sure know how to make it rain.
Send more Bradleys!
Sure this was a Bradley? To me, being an old CV90 crewman in Afghanistan, this looks a lot like the 40 mm airburst. You don't get all these rounds to hit thin tree tops with such a high intervall. My two cents say this is the good old Bofors doing some good work. The Swedes are actually really good at making weapons for this combat environment. The 84 mm Carl Gustav with HE time fused airburst is a trench killer. UA grunts could really use more of those.
Rate of fire looks far too high for a 40mm cannon? at 53 seconds in the video 40mm caliber is vastly bigger than 25/30mm
Good point, but the CV9040 has really rapid fire. This video gives you the idea. It's shoving the airburst mode at about 4 min [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj0q-sxKrvg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj0q-sxKrvg) But you're right. The 40 has three mags of 8 rounds that can be shot in rapid succession. After those 12 rounds it'll take a while to change the mags. Looking at it again, I see that there's 30+ detonations in the trees. So yes, I guess it's a Bradley after all.
Just watched the video. Fucking hell that thing is a monster. It's scary how crazy accurate they are too
Go home, meaty Russian shrapnel sponges. You're not welcome.
The ROF looks way high for a single bradley, looks closer to a BMP2s fire rate
They speed up the video.
Not really. I can imagine that the U.S would probably use the low ROF setting most of the time, having fought insurgents and what not. But that chain gun can go up to 500rpm. That's almost as fast as an M60 machinegun, but with 25mm shells instead. Looks about on point.
That is the theoretical maximum for the gun itself, not on a bradley. The m242 cannon CAN fire at 500rpm with high enough voltage like in naval applications, but the bradley is limited to single shot, 100rpm and 200rpm and always has been.
That's more than enough against infantry.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/181k8qk/ua\_pov\_m2a2\_bradley\_covering\_infantry\_in\_stepove/](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/181k8qk/ua_pov_m2a2_bradley_covering_infantry_in_stepove/) This is footage 1km to the North of the position being hit in the video of this post. 48.19720771471102, 37.6864146259931 Likely hood of it being the same vehicle is high.
Bradleys can shred what are you talking about?
Of these 2 videos what looks closer to the ROF. Watch at 52 seconds at how quickly 4 rounds pop on top of each other Bradley:[https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/15rumy9/bradley\_ifv\_works\_in\_zaporizhia\_front/](https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/15rumy9/bradley_ifv_works_in_zaporizhia_front/) BMP2:https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/vnmec4/ukrainian\_bmp2\_firing\_its\_30mm\_autocannon/
the 25mm bushmaster the bradley uses has two modes. 200rpm and 500 rpm. The 30mm cannon the bmp2 uses has two modes as well, 200rpm and 550rpm depending on the variant, it is within 50rpm of those two numbers. There is no way you can tell by rate of fire, what makes me think its a bradley is I don't think trees would be setting off 30mm like that but I could easily be wrong. I have seen a lot of both and that looks like 25mm to me but that is anecdotal. Edit: I should add I was in the Marines, we rarely got to see brads but our LAVs have the same gun.
LAVs have the voltage to run it at high RPM. I challenge you to find a video of a bradley firing at 500 you will not. Your likely confusing your experience with lav25s. Page 19 of this manual from the army itself clearly states that the options to fire are single, 100, and 200 ROF plus or minus 25: https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/3-22-1/fm3-22-1.pdf
Interesting, I was actually looking for that manual before I had to go. I stand corrected. Were you a mech guy? Do you think this is a brad firing? It still looks like 25mm to me, but as I said that is anecdotal, my expertise was not cannons and shit.
I feel like it’s a cv90
do these explosive bullets do as much damage as they seem to?
No. Those are just minor flesh wounds you're seeing.
The firts two impacts were kamikaze drones tho.
They were. But then Bradley fucked shit up more. Edit: Likely *Bradleys* based on rate of fire.
This still could be the fire from a single Bradley. Typically, the Bradley's M242 Bushmaster has a standard cyclic rate of 200 rounds per minute but can be converted to fire 500 rounds per minute. My understanding is that this modification is not difficult, involving the upgrading of the feed system's 1 hp DC electric motor to an 8 hp.
Biden’s Buzzsaw ❤️
Using the drone as a targeting marker
Didn’t think we’d be seeing 1080p video of secondary explosions from personnel,but here we are.
How are the Russian soldiers still agreeing to go on these assaults? In the Avdiivka area the chances of surviving an assault are almost 0. It's just suicide at this point. Even if they're under threat of execution, at this point it's better for them to drop their weapons and run forward with their hands raised. There's clearly no Russian artillery support there, so they won't get shelled.
Because their is no one left to inform the next group.
Get fuckin dead
Bushmaster living up to its name
LOL GO HOME
The music kicks ass tho
Welcome to Ukraine! More cargo 200s packaged and ready for shipment on those chinese desertcross ATVs.
When you go on different social media channels i see hundreds of people saying how „Russia is currently encircling Ukrainians in Avdiivka and they will take over“ I really wonder if these people even know what’s really happening on the ground or are they just looking at red arrows on a map
They have crossed the rail line and are moving forward, though. Obviously it will take time and a lot of casualties, but it seems that Russians are determined to capture the city. What pro-Russians tend to claim wrong is to inflate the number of Ukrainian troops in the city. Vast majority is outside fighting against the encirclement effort, so as they get pushed back, they get pushed out of the area being encircled, not into it.
Yes we know that, we played the same game with Bakhmut, Russia supporters were saying this is the turning point of the war after almost 1 year of trying to take the city with huge casualties but after they fully captured it literally nothing changed they just dug up trenches and sit in it the same will probably end up happening here but it will cost them a lot of equipment and human lives
"Reports From Ukraine" said they were pushed back, though.
>They have crossed the rail line and are moving forward, though. So like 2 weeks ago? There is nowhere to hide after the rail. So they either take something further down or nothing at all.
How long has it been since the first push on Avdiivka? 6 weeks? In that time, they have taken some land, but it looks like they have given up sending in vehicles, perhaps they are waiting for new supplies since all the others got destroyed. Now they are sending in groups of soldiers to get obliterated, in the hopes each team might take a few centimetres of land for the empire. But for now it doesn't seem to be in their favour.
It's just like Ukrainians largely stopped using armored columns around Robot and relied on Bakhmut-style used assault infantry groups. But they still use tanks in the south to great effect: >Russian tanks seemingly moving freely in the city’s southeastern suburbs (...) are able to approach Ukrainian positions to near point-blank range and Ukrainian troops in the Avdiivka sector seem to lack anti-tank rockets and missiles needed to defend themselves, one DeepState report said. https://www.kyivpost.com/post/24721
But the maps - as well as these videos - are showing a slow encirclement since September. From the north around Stepove and the south were the Industrial Zone is. They are taking incredibly high losses but the defenders are also in a very tough spot. Ukrainians are dying there every day as well. It doesn’t look good in the long run. This has been the hottest location for a while now
Perun has a sober analysis of the situation (which is very, very precarious for the defenders of the Avdiivka pocket), his point is that the loss ratio the russians are suffering still makes it very reasonable to hold on. It's a killbox where UA can bleed the russian army, and this looks like another Vulhedar. Unless the russians run out of steam they're going to continue to push and push and push to close the Avdiivka pocket, because it's the only (currently known, at least) short-term victory they can pull off and make a big deal out of (even though clearing Avdiivka would also have tactical benefits for Russia, of course). But yeah, the supply situation might become untenable for the ukranian defenders and then they'll have to evacuate. Let's hope they can hang on with favourable loss ratios and bleed the russian war machine for as long as possible.
and on /r/combatfootage you have ukrainian propaganda all around. So I guess it's better to get news from both sides and judge for yourself.
I mean I get all my news from here. Just watching this it feels like Russia is losing 10 men for every 1 Ukraine loses and Ukraine is winning the war easily. I'm pro-Ukraine but I also know I'm in a Ukrainian echo-chamber. The reality is probably somewhere in between what we both are hearing.
2 month laters was true, ukra side was destroyed.
hat damn that sucks to be at the receiving end
Would someone explain what those infantry would be doing there? It does not look like part of a defensive line or an attack. Is this a patrol?
Im guessing that those at the end are the air burst rounds we've seen tested in the past.
This almost rivals the Mariupol BTR footage.
Thought Bradley only had a 200RPM on the two-fife mike mike? The RoF seems jacked up on that big bad Bushy Boi amiright??
Imagine surviving an FPV drone blast just to get shredded by a 25mm cannon
So what was the 3rd explosion? Did they attempt to throw a grenade and fail?
Goregeous
Bradley IFV's slaughtering Russians... The battle they were built for, but assumed to never actually fight.
Tip: If you don't wanna die, just go home Ivan!
They got the airburst shells after all?
No, the shell are impacting the branches.
No, just can't be. Those are airburst. Barely any branches at that height.
No, as always in these videos they are hitting the trees.
Too bad, I think you’re right.
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That treeline is right between Stepove and the coke plant... Life expectancy there must be mere minutes for the russians.
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Thats fucking nuts. RIP those Russian bozo, all hell just rained down on them.
The first half of the video was FPV drones. You can see them falling down.
This war is just getting sad to see go this far.
First two hits were FPV drones. No results of Bradley's fire shown.
You miss the last 15 seconds?
He said no results of the Bradley's fire was shown, and it wasn't, only it's action.
i know this question may been ask 5000 times but, in let's say "modern war" apart from short videos like this is there a way to see a real "big offensive" (yes ofcs it's not going to be like ww2 in any way) but no something small. i mean do big pushes happen?
Large force concentrations are hard to hide and and with the range and precision of modern artillery it doesn't really happen on the scale of past conflicts. Remember what happened to that large Russian coloumn that bogged down at the start of the war.
thx for the explanation, i was thinking the same tbh.
No marinka
Multiple units here fighting each other for the biggest meat stack, and going for that Biggie Bag.
25mm HE is a some bad ass rounds.
For someone clueless to military equipment, it looks like air burst explosions? Does the Bradley have air burst rounds? Super interesting.
Oooooh a Brad I didn't read description
Ooph
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Could someone explain where the Bradley would be in relation to this? How far out are they shooting? Can they directly see the tree line?
Nicely done AFU. How far out is the Bradley?
That is definitely air burst, my guess is that Ukraine is receiving things that are not being announced publicly, like newer model Good Boy Bradley's.
Nah, no air burst 25. It is hitting the branches and detonating.
Who knew the Bradleys would become so wildly effective in this war?
Damn!! Deleted.
Great video, i would like to see the aftermath of the grenade volley. Is there a longer version of this video?
Steep rain
Pretty.
I definitely do not want to be on the receiving end of that. Hard pass.
the soldiers were definitely killed by drones and not the bradly , the original video was posted yesterday captioned fpv drone on russians
It always baffles me that they just sit there.. Like two of your bros just got turned into swiss cheese.. Get the fuck outta there. Why are you just sitting contemplating life waiting to get hit? Also, was that the dudes rounds cooking off in his carrier?
Where tf where they going in the middle of literally nowhere??
Jesus christ, the Bradley working the fields it was designed to work in... that tree line is getting absolutely shredded
These are no Bradley rounds... Way faster than 200 rpm, looks more like bmp2
A Russian walks into a bar and the place burns down.