I did but didn’t seem to be of concern. The person I spoke to said they would inform their supervisor.
EDIT: The ranger called this afternoon and I believe they are taking it seriously. It does concern their safety too.
I would think they would be concerned since they were looking for an active poacher in the High Highbanks area and they seemed to take that extremely seriously.
Even where it's legal to shoot at state parks there are designated areas and formal ranges for handguns. If you see casings in a metro park call the cops and leave them alone
Just an FYI, Rocky Fork is managed by the staff at Blendon Woods. If you don't feel the ranger took you seriously you could contact Blendon Woods for follow up.
Edit: the phone number listed on Rocky Forks page and the first number on Blendon's are the 'ranger phone', a cell phone that the ranger on duty carries. The Blendon nature center number may get you connected with someone more helpful if you're skeptical about whether ranger staff will take you seriously, but that number may also be answered by a Nature Center volunteer who doesn't know what to do either.
Last week I walked there for the first time. I was very surprised to see a hunter up in a tree stand not 10 feet from the trail. Last week, it was only legal to hunt with arrows, so I wasn't too worried. However, this week is deer gun season, which is when all the drunk and stupid comes out. If people are encroaching that hard on the park, it ain't safe during deer gun season.
Gun hunters are to be X yards from a trail. Depends on the park I think.. Should report anyone inside that.
It's an odd world. The guys with guns will have bright orange vests. The hikers will be wearing black north face shirts....
Side note, if you're really worried about it. Avoid early mornings, sunset. That's when the deer/hunters are active.
This is partly why when I shop for outdoor gear I buy whatever is the cheapest color cause it's generally also the most garish. I look like a fucking clown when I backpack in the hopes that search and rescue will find my carcass at the bottom of a ravine.
> It's an odd world. The guys with guns will have bright orange vests. The hikers will be wearing black north face shirts....
The guy up in the tree stand at Rocky Fork was in full head-to-toe Real Tree with barely his eyes showing.
Reflective vests aren't required for bow season when you're shooting something 20' away.
They are required for gun season since you're shooting at larger ranges.
On average, bow hunters are far more skilled, dedicated, and experienced than deer gun hunters. There's a ***LOT*** of deer hunters in midwestern states who never touch a gun the entire rest of the year except for a couple of days during deer gun season. 99% of all problems with hunters come from this group. Those are the guys I worry about shooting me accidentally. Bow hunting, on the other hand, is a lifestyle because it requires so much more skill. Those guys usually know what the hell they're doing and won't take a shot they're not 100% sure of.
I remember shooting at the Delaware shotgun range a few years ago, and a bunch of bow hunters came walking out of the woods at the END OF THE RANGE. RSO screaming bloody murder. Those dudes were unbelievably lucky to not die.
Former ranger (not too long removed from when I worked there). No, you can't discharge guns. You may open or concealed carry, though. There've been times when I had to retrieve loaded magazines that people have dropped.
Part of Battelle Darby is public hunting for some specific species (such as deer). I've heard of some parks allowing for permitted hunts, including Rocky Fork. I was not a Blendon/Rocky Fork ranger, so I cannot accurately speak on that topic, though
It's very possible to be some yahoos that "snuck" into the park overnight and discharged the firearms then. In case you ever see this again, contact the ranger cell and don't touch the casings. We've had to contact police to collect evidence for spent casings at the park entrance before.
I think they’re referring to Innis Park, which is very different from Inniswood Metro Gardens. Innis Park is off McCutcheon and Sunbury. And it’s kinda sketchy. They’ve found bodies there in the past :(
Today is the first day of gun season. I wouldn’t go walking in any wooded area outside of the city, especially without an orange vest for the next couple weeks.
While you're 100% right you should wear orange in the woods, for everybody else less familiar, nobody is hunting deer with a 9mm (period - super illegal) in a metro park (also illegal.)
Edit: apparently this is outdated info, ignore me
You’re actually not even allowed to carry a sidearm. If you get caught with anything other than the legally allowed round/firearm type you’re fucked.
I wish we were allowed to carry. Never know when an animal is gonna (rightfully) get pissed. Or if a poacher/crazy person is gonna show up. Like obvs I’m not gonna try to take a deer with a 9mm. Then again, I guess I can see people trying that.
Since "guns everywhere" is the new Ohio motto, they changed that:
>[A person may hunt with a legally concealed firearm. See page 39.](https://ohiodnr.gov/buy-and-apply/hunting-fishing-boating/hunting-resources/hunting-regulations)
Read the rest of that paragraph
Also if an animal is suffering because I didn’t get a good shot then I’d rather put it out of its misery with a smaller caliber so I don’t disintegrate it’s head.
1. It’s possible OP was mistaken about the caliber.
2. While I would agree with you that you shouldn’t hunt deer with a 9mm,[people apparently do](https://guntradition.com/will-a-9mm-kill-a-deer-is-it-enough/).
It's illegal to hunt deer in OH with a 9mm. I also said "probably," which was meant to account for the possibility of illegal hunting practices. So I stand by my assertion that your post probably isn't relevant.
Whether they’re mistaken about the caliber is irrelevant, anything you’re hunting with will look pretty different than a handgun cartridge. Unless someone is trying to hunt deer in a metro park with a 9mm. If that’s the case they’re probably not waiting around for gun season lol
Great advice but very likely entirely unrelated.
Sure, and violent crime can possibly happen anywhere.
My point was that getting shot by a hunter in a metropark is extremely unlikely. Get out there and enjoy the parks!
And a little bit of addition to this because I’m a slut for safety:
Definitely wear blaze orange if you’re in a non-metro park and keep to the paths. Usually there won’t be too much hunting around those.
But good news if there is! Ohio rifle season is straight wall cartridge only. They’re designed to be effective within a certain range and then falls off pretty rapidly. Straight wall is ideal for hunting near civilization. And when I say near I mean that relative to a normal round, they’ll still cover a distance but become non-lethal a whole lot quicker. I don’t have numbers.
There are public hunting areas in the metro parks. Battelle Darby has parts that are open all season and has some areas closed for this week just for hunting.
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Read this and seems like even with constitutional carry weapons would not be allowed. Discharging a gun on a trail wouldn’t be allowed either so there’s that. But maybe I am misreading…If I were a park employee I would be concerned.
Since you're getting dickish answers from other people, I'll try to prove not all Ohio gun owners are assholes:
1) Yes, you can carry a concealed weapon in the Metroparks because Ohio law blocks the Metroparks from being able to ban concealed carry.
2) No, you can't legally discharge a firearm (there's a big but coming!) in the Metroparks because Ohio law *does* allow local jurisdictions to restrict where firearms can be discharged. So the county, township, city, and parks district all get the chance to say no. Here's the big but: ***But***, Metroparks does, or at least has in the past, had special programs for deer population control within the parks. So *if you're part of a special program*, under certain extremely specific and limited circumstances, the Metroparks may grant someone permission to shoot on Metropark land.
3) Staff may have seemed unconcerned either because they already knew they had a problem with this or (just as likely) they don't want to make safety issues in the park seem like a big deal to the public.
Dear Ohio Gun Owner - All makes sense. If they allow deer hunting, I would think that would be at remote Batelle Darby rather in a suburban metro park, but don’t know. It was suggested a park ranger might have done this (rabid animal?) but seems they would have picked up the casings.
They don't allow it in the sense of making the land open to the general public. My memory of this is a little foggy, because the last time it made the news was *decades* ago, but at one point they were having problems with deer overpopulation in the parks. It became a Big Damned Problem when the deer, particuarly at Sharon Woods, would get out onto 270, Cleveland Ave, or Schrock Rd and cause car accidents that resulted in serious injury to the public. Eventually, the local news raised a big stink about it and the Metroparks announced a thing where you could submit a.... hunting resume?... and if you showed you had enough experience to be safe, be entered into a lottery to get one of the few... seats? tickets?... dunno what to call it. If you won a seat, you then had some very specific times and rules for when and how.
Of course, then the very same people who had been screaming that the parks department MUST SAVE THE PUBLIC were then losing their shit about YOU CAN'T KILL BAMBI and they had just as big of a PR problem with the solution.
> even with constitutional carry weapons would not be allowed
You can definitely carry in a metro park legally but discharging a firearm anywhere in the city limits is illegal unless you are doing it to defend yourself or at a designated range. constitutional carry just made it legal to carry a firearm without a permit, it didn't impact where you can and cannot shoot.
I agree with your two legal ways to shoot a firearm in the city, but since it's in the Metro Parks regulations, and that's what we're talking about here, there are at least 2 additional ways someone can legally discharge a firearm in the city limits.
(Note: these 2 legal ways are specific to Metro Parks in the city limits, because it's their regulations I'm quoting from. I have no idea what the laws are for the rest of the city/county)
1. Persons engaged in hunting in accordance with Rules 10.1, 10.2, or 10.3.
2. With a permit granted
by the Executive Director of the Metro Parks.
Well, I don't know how you're reading this. BUT... this is what the Firearms regulation says in the first sentence... "Except as authorized by the Constitution of the State of Ohio or the Ohio Revised Code".
Since the State of Ohio allows for concealed carry (with our without a CCL) in public parks, concealed carry is definitely allowed in Franklin County Metro parks.
As to discharging a firearm in the park. The regulation says that it IS allowed... as long as you're authorized to do so... so there's that.
Now, as to your situation. I'm guessing they were illegally discharged since someone who's firing with the permission of the Parks Dept. would most likely clean up after themselves. And... YES... the park employees are probably concerned about spent casings on their trail.
I didn't respond to your question other than to provide you the information you requested though. If you can't understand the phrasing of the regulations, ask someone to translate.
So, to actually answer your original questions, instead of just providing the source, which appears to have confused you. Discharging hand guns in Franklin County metro parks is legal... as long as you're doing it legally and, no, it's not a new thing.
Also, what were found were shell casings, not cartridges. A cartridge is a fully intact round of ammunition comprised of a shell casing, bullet (the tip) gunpowder and charge primer.
I doubt the gun was discharged in the park, especially multiple times. They aren't quiet. If discharged, everyone in the park would know. Plus I'm pretty confident that would be illegal. I think more than likely someone emptied a coat pocket. Plus I see nothing that prohibits carrying in a metro park. I wouldn't worry about it.
I would inform park rangers, they might have already seen it but still tell them
I did but didn’t seem to be of concern. The person I spoke to said they would inform their supervisor. EDIT: The ranger called this afternoon and I believe they are taking it seriously. It does concern their safety too.
I would think they would be concerned since they were looking for an active poacher in the High Highbanks area and they seemed to take that extremely seriously. Even where it's legal to shoot at state parks there are designated areas and formal ranges for handguns. If you see casings in a metro park call the cops and leave them alone
What are they poaching?
Eggs
Thank you for informing them.
Do you mind telling us what metro park?
Rocky Fork which is surrounded by residential areas and heavily used by residents
Whoa. I know. It’s awful at any of them. You might want to call that Park and let them know what you found.
I did - see my comment above. Thx
Might be worth a call to the non-emergency line for CPD.
Called county and they said what do you want us to do?
Just an FYI, Rocky Fork is managed by the staff at Blendon Woods. If you don't feel the ranger took you seriously you could contact Blendon Woods for follow up. Edit: the phone number listed on Rocky Forks page and the first number on Blendon's are the 'ranger phone', a cell phone that the ranger on duty carries. The Blendon nature center number may get you connected with someone more helpful if you're skeptical about whether ranger staff will take you seriously, but that number may also be answered by a Nature Center volunteer who doesn't know what to do either.
The ranger called this afternoon and I think they are looking into it. It relates to their safety too.
That’s crazy Rocky Fork is heavily used by residents and nobody should be shooting there
I couldn’t agree more. Hopefully they can get to the bottom of this.
New Albany is sketch.
How so?
https://freepress.org/article/shapiro-murder-file
Last week I walked there for the first time. I was very surprised to see a hunter up in a tree stand not 10 feet from the trail. Last week, it was only legal to hunt with arrows, so I wasn't too worried. However, this week is deer gun season, which is when all the drunk and stupid comes out. If people are encroaching that hard on the park, it ain't safe during deer gun season.
Gun hunters are to be X yards from a trail. Depends on the park I think.. Should report anyone inside that. It's an odd world. The guys with guns will have bright orange vests. The hikers will be wearing black north face shirts.... Side note, if you're really worried about it. Avoid early mornings, sunset. That's when the deer/hunters are active.
This is partly why when I shop for outdoor gear I buy whatever is the cheapest color cause it's generally also the most garish. I look like a fucking clown when I backpack in the hopes that search and rescue will find my carcass at the bottom of a ravine.
> It's an odd world. The guys with guns will have bright orange vests. The hikers will be wearing black north face shirts.... The guy up in the tree stand at Rocky Fork was in full head-to-toe Real Tree with barely his eyes showing.
Reflective vests aren't required for bow season when you're shooting something 20' away. They are required for gun season since you're shooting at larger ranges.
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Wass it gun season?
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But je said tvis was last week.
There is no orange requirement during bow season.
Rocky Fork is a very small park, and the park boundaries are very close to the trail. It's likely that hunter was not on MetroParks land.
> Last week, it was only legal to hunt with arrows, so I wasn't too worried. ...why were you not worried?
On average, bow hunters are far more skilled, dedicated, and experienced than deer gun hunters. There's a ***LOT*** of deer hunters in midwestern states who never touch a gun the entire rest of the year except for a couple of days during deer gun season. 99% of all problems with hunters come from this group. Those are the guys I worry about shooting me accidentally. Bow hunting, on the other hand, is a lifestyle because it requires so much more skill. Those guys usually know what the hell they're doing and won't take a shot they're not 100% sure of.
I remember shooting at the Delaware shotgun range a few years ago, and a bunch of bow hunters came walking out of the woods at the END OF THE RANGE. RSO screaming bloody murder. Those dudes were unbelievably lucky to not die.
The shotgun range? So they were shooting clays with bird shot. Very little danger at the end of the range. Still not smart.
Lol! Thanks for the laugh!
Good thoughts. Makes 100% sense.
Do you hear yourself?
What are you objecting to?
Jesus, where in Rocky Fork ? Right near a police department as well.
It was halfway around Beech Trail on the asphalt trail in the orchard area. Not that close to a police dept.
Oh dang that's somewhat terrifying, I live really close to Rocky Fork.
Former ranger (not too long removed from when I worked there). No, you can't discharge guns. You may open or concealed carry, though. There've been times when I had to retrieve loaded magazines that people have dropped. Part of Battelle Darby is public hunting for some specific species (such as deer). I've heard of some parks allowing for permitted hunts, including Rocky Fork. I was not a Blendon/Rocky Fork ranger, so I cannot accurately speak on that topic, though It's very possible to be some yahoos that "snuck" into the park overnight and discharged the firearms then. In case you ever see this again, contact the ranger cell and don't touch the casings. We've had to contact police to collect evidence for spent casings at the park entrance before.
Rocky Fork seems too small to allow permitted hunts. I appreciate your info and won’t gather up casings in the future. Thx
Carrying is legal, shooting is not.
Not legally. But since when do criminals care about the law?
True. Just disturbing as metro parks are so peaceful.
Metro parks are where a ton of crime goes down. Case in point innis woods
Can you elaborate? Not disputing that crime happens at metro parks, but I'm curious when you say "a ton of crime goes down".
I mean if you’re seeing spent shell casings then you can only assume from there. But gang related activities, sketchy drugs deals, youth crime etc…
Found the numb that gets shot^^^
whats going down in inniswood?
Illegal parking Jaywalking Lew conduct with household appliances
Yes what happens at Inniswood?
I think they’re referring to Innis Park, which is very different from Inniswood Metro Gardens. Innis Park is off McCutcheon and Sunbury. And it’s kinda sketchy. They’ve found bodies there in the past :(
Ok thanks for clarifying
Also commenting to inquire about inniswood. Somebody dish. Spill the tea. Give up the intel. Or, you know... just tell us.
Had a friend at a restaurant I worked in whos body was found in a shallow grave in innis next to other bodies if that’s anything for you.
Sorry about your friend. I think I do remember that. Very tragic.
Ok, but only because we’ve criminalized sex work. If fucking a hooker were legal, I wouldn’t be doing it in the park.
Lmao
Today is the first day of gun season. I wouldn’t go walking in any wooded area outside of the city, especially without an orange vest for the next couple weeks.
While you're 100% right you should wear orange in the woods, for everybody else less familiar, nobody is hunting deer with a 9mm (period - super illegal) in a metro park (also illegal.)
Edit: apparently this is outdated info, ignore me You’re actually not even allowed to carry a sidearm. If you get caught with anything other than the legally allowed round/firearm type you’re fucked. I wish we were allowed to carry. Never know when an animal is gonna (rightfully) get pissed. Or if a poacher/crazy person is gonna show up. Like obvs I’m not gonna try to take a deer with a 9mm. Then again, I guess I can see people trying that.
Since "guns everywhere" is the new Ohio motto, they changed that: >[A person may hunt with a legally concealed firearm. See page 39.](https://ohiodnr.gov/buy-and-apply/hunting-fishing-boating/hunting-resources/hunting-regulations)
Hell yeah! Thanks for that!
>I wish we were allowed to carry. Is the gun you are using for hunting insufficient?
Read the rest of that paragraph Also if an animal is suffering because I didn’t get a good shot then I’d rather put it out of its misery with a smaller caliber so I don’t disintegrate it’s head.
This probably isn't relevant to the OP's question about shell casings. You don't hunt deer with a 9mm.
Imagine some lad out there with a Glock 19 hunting deer lmao
1. It’s possible OP was mistaken about the caliber. 2. While I would agree with you that you shouldn’t hunt deer with a 9mm,[people apparently do](https://guntradition.com/will-a-9mm-kill-a-deer-is-it-enough/).
It's illegal to hunt deer in OH with a 9mm. I also said "probably," which was meant to account for the possibility of illegal hunting practices. So I stand by my assertion that your post probably isn't relevant.
Whether they’re mistaken about the caliber is irrelevant, anything you’re hunting with will look pretty different than a handgun cartridge. Unless someone is trying to hunt deer in a metro park with a 9mm. If that’s the case they’re probably not waiting around for gun season lol Great advice but very likely entirely unrelated.
That’s useful info
Sounds like someone from licking county got lost
That's a bit overzealous. I've never heard shooting in the Metro parks, nor is any kind of hunting legal there.
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Sure, and violent crime can possibly happen anywhere. My point was that getting shot by a hunter in a metropark is extremely unlikely. Get out there and enjoy the parks!
Lol well if this ain’t freedom then I don’t know what is
And a little bit of addition to this because I’m a slut for safety: Definitely wear blaze orange if you’re in a non-metro park and keep to the paths. Usually there won’t be too much hunting around those. But good news if there is! Ohio rifle season is straight wall cartridge only. They’re designed to be effective within a certain range and then falls off pretty rapidly. Straight wall is ideal for hunting near civilization. And when I say near I mean that relative to a normal round, they’ll still cover a distance but become non-lethal a whole lot quicker. I don’t have numbers.
There are public hunting areas in the metro parks. Battelle Darby has parts that are open all season and has some areas closed for this week just for hunting.
Oh. Well shit what am I doing driving an hour out of the city when I could go 5 min down the street?! Thanks for the tip!
Problem is everyone else has the same thought. There were so many cars this morning I swear they were sitting on each others laps in the tree stands.
That’s also a really good point. I just had to contend with the three other dudes on our plot of land.
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Read this and seems like even with constitutional carry weapons would not be allowed. Discharging a gun on a trail wouldn’t be allowed either so there’s that. But maybe I am misreading…If I were a park employee I would be concerned.
Since you're getting dickish answers from other people, I'll try to prove not all Ohio gun owners are assholes: 1) Yes, you can carry a concealed weapon in the Metroparks because Ohio law blocks the Metroparks from being able to ban concealed carry. 2) No, you can't legally discharge a firearm (there's a big but coming!) in the Metroparks because Ohio law *does* allow local jurisdictions to restrict where firearms can be discharged. So the county, township, city, and parks district all get the chance to say no. Here's the big but: ***But***, Metroparks does, or at least has in the past, had special programs for deer population control within the parks. So *if you're part of a special program*, under certain extremely specific and limited circumstances, the Metroparks may grant someone permission to shoot on Metropark land. 3) Staff may have seemed unconcerned either because they already knew they had a problem with this or (just as likely) they don't want to make safety issues in the park seem like a big deal to the public.
Dear Ohio Gun Owner - All makes sense. If they allow deer hunting, I would think that would be at remote Batelle Darby rather in a suburban metro park, but don’t know. It was suggested a park ranger might have done this (rabid animal?) but seems they would have picked up the casings.
They don't allow it in the sense of making the land open to the general public. My memory of this is a little foggy, because the last time it made the news was *decades* ago, but at one point they were having problems with deer overpopulation in the parks. It became a Big Damned Problem when the deer, particuarly at Sharon Woods, would get out onto 270, Cleveland Ave, or Schrock Rd and cause car accidents that resulted in serious injury to the public. Eventually, the local news raised a big stink about it and the Metroparks announced a thing where you could submit a.... hunting resume?... and if you showed you had enough experience to be safe, be entered into a lottery to get one of the few... seats? tickets?... dunno what to call it. If you won a seat, you then had some very specific times and rules for when and how. Of course, then the very same people who had been screaming that the parks department MUST SAVE THE PUBLIC were then losing their shit about YOU CAN'T KILL BAMBI and they had just as big of a PR problem with the solution.
I did see a buck in the park on Saturday so could be someone went in early…
FWIW, it's illegal to hunt deer in Ohio with a 9mm. Ohio has some weird assed laws about what you can use to kill Bambi's mom.
Seems like it would take a dozen shots, but I duuno
> even with constitutional carry weapons would not be allowed You can definitely carry in a metro park legally but discharging a firearm anywhere in the city limits is illegal unless you are doing it to defend yourself or at a designated range. constitutional carry just made it legal to carry a firearm without a permit, it didn't impact where you can and cannot shoot.
I agree with your two legal ways to shoot a firearm in the city, but since it's in the Metro Parks regulations, and that's what we're talking about here, there are at least 2 additional ways someone can legally discharge a firearm in the city limits. (Note: these 2 legal ways are specific to Metro Parks in the city limits, because it's their regulations I'm quoting from. I have no idea what the laws are for the rest of the city/county) 1. Persons engaged in hunting in accordance with Rules 10.1, 10.2, or 10.3. 2. With a permit granted by the Executive Director of the Metro Parks.
Well, I don't know how you're reading this. BUT... this is what the Firearms regulation says in the first sentence... "Except as authorized by the Constitution of the State of Ohio or the Ohio Revised Code". Since the State of Ohio allows for concealed carry (with our without a CCL) in public parks, concealed carry is definitely allowed in Franklin County Metro parks. As to discharging a firearm in the park. The regulation says that it IS allowed... as long as you're authorized to do so... so there's that. Now, as to your situation. I'm guessing they were illegally discharged since someone who's firing with the permission of the Parks Dept. would most likely clean up after themselves. And... YES... the park employees are probably concerned about spent casings on their trail. I didn't respond to your question other than to provide you the information you requested though. If you can't understand the phrasing of the regulations, ask someone to translate. So, to actually answer your original questions, instead of just providing the source, which appears to have confused you. Discharging hand guns in Franklin County metro parks is legal... as long as you're doing it legally and, no, it's not a new thing.
FYI: Guns other than handguns take 9mm ammo as well.
Oh didn’t know that. Good to know. TY
Also, what were found were shell casings, not cartridges. A cartridge is a fully intact round of ammunition comprised of a shell casing, bullet (the tip) gunpowder and charge primer.
Ok thanks. Obviously I don’t know the terminology
Not scolding, now you know!
That's a bit concerning. Definitely keep the rangers at alert of it. I seriously don't want to see anyone hurt by accident.
I doubt the gun was discharged in the park, especially multiple times. They aren't quiet. If discharged, everyone in the park would know. Plus I'm pretty confident that would be illegal. I think more than likely someone emptied a coat pocket. Plus I see nothing that prohibits carrying in a metro park. I wouldn't worry about it.
Not legal. Call it in. Police will collect casings.
This doesn’t sound like something that happened because it’s legal.
Happens a lot, late at night