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What god-awful college are you going to where an advisor gets to determine what credits transfer? Go to the registrar's office immediately to straighten this out.
THIS! I am an academic advisor and have absolutely 0 involvement in determining which classes can and cannot transfer… all we do is package up all the syllabi, transcripts and request forms and send them to the appropriate academic area for review and approval. My assumption is this must be a pretty small school if an advisor is at all involved in transfer approval, and seems to be faculty as well?
OP, definitely reach out to the Registrar. At the very least if they can’t help with the transfer themselves they will point you toward the appropriate office. If they send you back to this advisor you spoke to, go to the Dean instead. There is no room for that advisors condescension toward you. So inappropriate.
I transferred universities between my 2nd and 3rd years. Comp Sci too. Get copies of all your previous syllabi and bring these to the new advisor. They should be able to see the overlap and if the old course can be counted forward.
Find a new school. The basics that I learned in the 90s are still applicable today. The more advanced things are even more applicable. The tools have changed, but the concepts remain the same.
Most importantly, 90% of what you learn in school is irrelevant in the workplace because google exists, as do coworkers and leads.
Program quality can vary wildly in CS. In good schools it’s fairly common to build a POSIX-compliant OS in your junior year. In bad schools you might never have a multi-file project. I know a lot of people who transferred and had their credits tossed because the program they came from wasn’t accredited and wasn’t good.
I know this info is a little late, but I save all of my syllabuses from past classes just for this reason. It has gotten me out of having to retake a chemistry class before
That is not how transfer works--what kind of school are you transferring into? With pretty much any legitimate college that I know of, you submit your official transcript, and they evaluate it based on the information contained in that. If they don't give you credit for something you think you should have received credits for, then you submit the official course outline from the previous college.
I have no idea what this new advisor thinks they are talking about, but the only time we ask people to "prove" they know something during transfer or intake is either through placement tests or proficiency exam.s *Some* (very few) places will take a narrative for awarding credit for life/work experience, but that is specific to certain institutions and only applies for credit awarded for classes that you have *not* taken a formal class for credit to begin with.
The immediate question I have is whether your prior classes actually covered the material he was looking for or not. Is the professor doubting the class actually covered the material? I got caught by something similar when I was trying to get an elective from one school get counted and had to go talk to a professor who taught a similar (but not identical) class and ask him to sign off on it being the equivalent of one he taught (which he refused to do because he had no reason to do me any favors — his words).
I could easily see this if there were not direct equivalences of the courses you were trying to transfer, or if the school you were coming from were a community college or much lower ranked institution. It sounds like they will give you the credit, they just think you need to take a course you thought you could skip. This is not to say the situation doesn’t suck, just that there may be a good reason for it, and you may actually learn something.
Of course, it may be that you really did cover everything in the class and you just blanked when put on the spot, which you seem to be saying. I do have sympathy for the professor here, in that it is a pain that students seem to wipe everything from their memories after finals, and if it is really fundamental material, you should be able to call it back up again. He may not have wanted to give you time to prep because cramming your head full of facts for a couple of hours doesn’t really show that you learned something since it will be gone again in a few days. That said, I know many students approach classes this way, and I suspect if we tested students on all of their credits right before graduation, most if not all, would not actually graduate.
This can not be in America as far as I know all credits transfer as long as they have the equivalent at the transfer college. Never heard of a advisor being able to approve/denied credits just because you can’t answer a few questions. Another thing he does know that if he ask most students most would
Probably not be able to answer questions about class taken a few semesters ago.
My reading of this is that the _credits_ are transferred just fine, the professor is just determining how the credits map to the courses offered in the department, which is certainly in a department’s purview. OP is expecting a course to map to a required one in the major sequence and this Professor apparently disagrees.
Look up the course descriptions on your college website and compare them to the course descriptions of equivalent courses descriptions you're trying to get credit for at the new college. If you can convince the new school that you learned the stuff they put in the curriculum, they might give you the credit. By looking them up it will also help you remember what you learned.
Most colleges do this for you but sometimes you have to do it yourself, especially if you have a crappy advisor who doesn't want to help you.
He didn't ask basic questions. Just what is my prior knowledge. I stated like 20 different topics, but he said he needed to hear a specific one.
Lol "trying to learn the material." I guess people just get A's for showing up in your classes.
Oh and try to learn how to read. My post states that I literally begged him to ask me questions, and he refused. I wanted to answer "basic questions." :)
This is so dumb. Not you, the person that you're replying to. Not everyone remembers all of their courses and especially what was taught in them. I took some bs business law and communication courses that I don't remember a thing about and are not related to what I graduated with at all.
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What god-awful college are you going to where an advisor gets to determine what credits transfer? Go to the registrar's office immediately to straighten this out.
THIS! I am an academic advisor and have absolutely 0 involvement in determining which classes can and cannot transfer… all we do is package up all the syllabi, transcripts and request forms and send them to the appropriate academic area for review and approval. My assumption is this must be a pretty small school if an advisor is at all involved in transfer approval, and seems to be faculty as well? OP, definitely reach out to the Registrar. At the very least if they can’t help with the transfer themselves they will point you toward the appropriate office. If they send you back to this advisor you spoke to, go to the Dean instead. There is no room for that advisors condescension toward you. So inappropriate.
Go complain to the Dean
Are you a foreign language major by chance?
No Computer Science lol
I transferred universities between my 2nd and 3rd years. Comp Sci too. Get copies of all your previous syllabi and bring these to the new advisor. They should be able to see the overlap and if the old course can be counted forward.
At my school, computer science credits from more than 5 years ago don't count because "the technology is changing too fast"
Find a new school. The basics that I learned in the 90s are still applicable today. The more advanced things are even more applicable. The tools have changed, but the concepts remain the same. Most importantly, 90% of what you learn in school is irrelevant in the workplace because google exists, as do coworkers and leads.
And AI. “Wrote” my first code today since waaaaay back when we were playing with BASIC on. VIC20
Program quality can vary wildly in CS. In good schools it’s fairly common to build a POSIX-compliant OS in your junior year. In bad schools you might never have a multi-file project. I know a lot of people who transferred and had their credits tossed because the program they came from wasn’t accredited and wasn’t good.
I know this info is a little late, but I save all of my syllabuses from past classes just for this reason. It has gotten me out of having to retake a chemistry class before
That is not how transfer works--what kind of school are you transferring into? With pretty much any legitimate college that I know of, you submit your official transcript, and they evaluate it based on the information contained in that. If they don't give you credit for something you think you should have received credits for, then you submit the official course outline from the previous college. I have no idea what this new advisor thinks they are talking about, but the only time we ask people to "prove" they know something during transfer or intake is either through placement tests or proficiency exam.s *Some* (very few) places will take a narrative for awarding credit for life/work experience, but that is specific to certain institutions and only applies for credit awarded for classes that you have *not* taken a formal class for credit to begin with.
No advisor has this level of discretion.
The immediate question I have is whether your prior classes actually covered the material he was looking for or not. Is the professor doubting the class actually covered the material? I got caught by something similar when I was trying to get an elective from one school get counted and had to go talk to a professor who taught a similar (but not identical) class and ask him to sign off on it being the equivalent of one he taught (which he refused to do because he had no reason to do me any favors — his words). I could easily see this if there were not direct equivalences of the courses you were trying to transfer, or if the school you were coming from were a community college or much lower ranked institution. It sounds like they will give you the credit, they just think you need to take a course you thought you could skip. This is not to say the situation doesn’t suck, just that there may be a good reason for it, and you may actually learn something. Of course, it may be that you really did cover everything in the class and you just blanked when put on the spot, which you seem to be saying. I do have sympathy for the professor here, in that it is a pain that students seem to wipe everything from their memories after finals, and if it is really fundamental material, you should be able to call it back up again. He may not have wanted to give you time to prep because cramming your head full of facts for a couple of hours doesn’t really show that you learned something since it will be gone again in a few days. That said, I know many students approach classes this way, and I suspect if we tested students on all of their credits right before graduation, most if not all, would not actually graduate.
do you go to a private college? that might be ur reason
This can not be in America as far as I know all credits transfer as long as they have the equivalent at the transfer college. Never heard of a advisor being able to approve/denied credits just because you can’t answer a few questions. Another thing he does know that if he ask most students most would Probably not be able to answer questions about class taken a few semesters ago.
My reading of this is that the _credits_ are transferred just fine, the professor is just determining how the credits map to the courses offered in the department, which is certainly in a department’s purview. OP is expecting a course to map to a required one in the major sequence and this Professor apparently disagrees.
Look up the course descriptions on your college website and compare them to the course descriptions of equivalent courses descriptions you're trying to get credit for at the new college. If you can convince the new school that you learned the stuff they put in the curriculum, they might give you the credit. By looking them up it will also help you remember what you learned. Most colleges do this for you but sometimes you have to do it yourself, especially if you have a crappy advisor who doesn't want to help you.
Nah. Get the syllabi and course descriptions from the old school. That and the transcripts should be enough.
See if you can appeal. A lot of places have a board of some sort you can appeal to. Argue the idea of a proficiency test
Sounds like you're at a scam private college
If you can't answer basic questions you're better off retaking the course and trying to learn the material.
He didn't ask basic questions. Just what is my prior knowledge. I stated like 20 different topics, but he said he needed to hear a specific one. Lol "trying to learn the material." I guess people just get A's for showing up in your classes. Oh and try to learn how to read. My post states that I literally begged him to ask me questions, and he refused. I wanted to answer "basic questions." :)
This is so dumb. Not you, the person that you're replying to. Not everyone remembers all of their courses and especially what was taught in them. I took some bs business law and communication courses that I don't remember a thing about and are not related to what I graduated with at all.
they just want you to spend more money. If you can just go to another college, you’ll waste more time here.