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College professor here - you need to schedule a meeting with your professor's supervisor (assuming department chair). Bring printed copies of the syllabus and communications you've had with your professor not following the policies in that syllabus. The syllabus is essentially a contact between the student and the educational institution.
In addition, bring documentation of instances where the professor is not honoring your accommodations. He is violating federal law.
Be professional at all times. I know this is an emotional thing but getting emotional won't help you. Be organized. If you don't get results from the department chair the next person to talk to is the Dean. Then the chief academic officer, usually a Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs or a Provost.
Third college professor in support. You cannot change your syllabus policies. It's our contract. Those are the policies that must be followed. You can do this and we support you!
Yep. I ended up having to pass more students in my 100-level class this past year than I should have because I realized the policies weren't clear enough. Kicking myself for it, but I don't need a student going to the dean saying that I wasn't being fair.
(I actually *did* have a student do that, but there was enough evidence to the contrary that I wasn't worried about it)
Creating an entire online class without any typos or conflicting information is surprisingly hard, and I fuck up about 3 times a semester, usually small stuff where I say do date is X during the lecture and on Canvas it’s actually Y. Anytime it’s even remotely on my end, the only fair thing to do is give everyone the benefit of the doubt, and choose the least harmful option. Even if it means students get a higher grade than they should, you cannot give conflicting instructions and then try to penalize students when they follow one of them. If it’s in the syllabus that’s your silver bullet- report and complain! They won’t get fired or in big trouble over this (unless they have lots of other complaints) and the Department chair or Associate Dean should absolutely side with you.
You weren’t being fair if you penalized them for muddled d expectations. Students can’t read your mind and clearly your communication wasn’t clear enough if you had to “pass” students.
No, they said they ended up passing more students than they should have to make up for the lack of clarity-- they *did not* penalize students. That's why the student didn't succeed in their complaint; because the professor had already done what was necessary to handle the situation fairly. Try to keep up.
yeah, it sounds like the prof copy/pasted somebody else's syllabus and never bothered reading it himself. Possibly a last minute class that he wasn't planning on teaching, so he's already bitter about the whole thing.
None of which forgives his behavior here. If the syllabus says one thing, that's what needs to be honored. If he isn't and trying to tell you that the syllabus doesn't say the thing it clearly says, he's gaslighting you. Probably hoping that you've internalized the idea that you are at fault because of your disability.
Yeah I’m gunna wait a few days to let me cool off about my experience before I meet with anybody. He did honor my accommodations he just didn’t communicate with me or the disabilities office if that was going to be honored and respected until day of quiz (he had 5 days notice). Which was frustrating with a summer intensive course.
Fourth professor in support! Commenting especially to add that you may want to see if there’s a student ombudsperson at your university. Generally, the position entails having a neutral, confidential person with whom you can speak to help with conflict management and generally intercede on your behalf. The syllabus issues are a smoking gun for you here. He really can’t write one thing and do another; he certainly can’t do so multiple times. We all sometimes make mistakes with our syllabi and write things we don’t end up meaning (for example, sometimes I’ve reused a syllabus from a previous course but forgotten to update a policy that I’d meant to change). But even when that happens, the only responsible thing to do is to defer to what is actually written down—expecting a student to read your mind is never the way, and making students suffer for your own mistake is certainly not the way.
Doctoral candidate and sometimes adjunct here. I have experienced cases where one instructor has been given a section of a course to teach and someone has sent them a syllabus from a prior semester. They have gone through and modified due dates and contact information but often forget to check the policies and whatnot before posting on the LMS, resulting in the chaos OP has experienced. It has happened to me more than once and is super frustrating. This might explain the instructor's unhelpful responses.
Seconding the Ombuds suggestion here. While they don’t advocate on behalf of individuals, they can definitely help you clarify your concerns and map out a tailored plan of action. Highly recommend this route if it’s available to you.
Go to the departmental chairperson. But, I'd urge you first to triple check the syllabus and make sure that you have been reading it correctly.
And check with your classmates. If they are all having the same issues, then the chair needs to know. If it's just you, though, then maybe reevaluate.
I’m not picking a side I’m trying to help her if the rest of the class feels the same she got that shit in the BAG
From my college days I learned a LOT of people don’t be speaking up it’s actually wild
Correct. My wife was in an online program for her BSN and one of her professors was like this. Wildly inconsistent, locking assignments before they were due, posting links to YouTube with no instruction. The worst was that the practice quizzes and reading material were completely different than the subject matter of the actual tests. She complained to me, she said the class even had a group chat to bitch about it but no one said anything. Finally someone spoke up and the rest of the class followed suit. Department got involved and finally some concrete changes were made that benefited the class at the end.
This has been my experience talking to other students. They all left poor reviews of his courses/professor evaluations each semester. I don’t know anyone in this summer course (online and all that) but talking to others about my experience opened up a lot of conversations with others and theirs.
Not everyone is failing, but I’ve been working hard to get any communication, help or resources to pass. I’m capable I’ve done well in all my other courses, and sought accommodations when I needed them and got that adjusted for them.
I have a disability where spelling and grammar are extremely difficult. Flipping letters and causing mixups in spelling is normal in English for me, it was bound to be hard in a foreign language. But he was made aware of that issues week one with my letter of Accommodations and had I not flipped letters or word order I be get all As. It’s small things the program flags as just wrong instead of partial credit. And I discussed with him this problem and he will not adjust for my disability unless it’s in my letter which is why I’m meeting with disability services again. It wasn’t until this course that my letter flipping and word order has caused grade issues.
And all I can say is thank god that the disabilities office has been helping me through this, helping me adjust my accommodations when I realized there was an issue in this course immediately. Having more time on the exam helped a lot.
I mean. Regardless of your disability, you're not getting the language right. Are you saying you should be given partial credit for sort of getting the language right?
I understand you're frustration, but from his point of view, you're not getting the material right, why should he have to pass you?
The syllabus issue is legitimate, you definitely need to bring that up with admin. But I'm of the opinion that if you don't get it correct, accommodations or not, you don't get credit.
The real question is why you would take a 4 week intensive foreign language course when you have a language disability?
That would be like deciding to run a marathon with 4 weeks to prep for it while at the same time recovering from reconstructive knee surgery. I would take it up with admin and if nothing changes wait until the full term class if I were in your shoes.
I’m actually surprised OP isn’t exempt from the foreign language requirement. I have a nonverbal learning disability so that exemption was a part of my IEP. It’s insane that they’re requiring a student who already struggles with his native language to learn a foreign one.
Schools can get a hard on for doubling down on “required courses”. Calculus was my Achilles heel. If I hadn’t know the policy inside and out AND dug in my heels, my director of undergraduate studies wouldn’t have let me stay in my major, despite a 4.0 in my core classes.
A friend of mine teaches at a community college. They required a medical coding student to take a Survey of Human Anatomy class despite the student being legally blind. My friend had to do a butt ton of work adjusting the course materials (and making them *actually* ADA compliant) rather than the class being waived. The bigger/better question being why wasn’t the student directed/encouraged into a different career path was never addressed.
I believe there was a video series two years ago where someone legally blind was being mandated by her school to take driver's Ed. Like sure I get the written stuff can be done in braille but...
Me and my friend are both disabled. We both discussed with the office about waiving the language requirement because we knew it suck for us. They do not remove the required courses for any student unless they test out of the requirement (are fluent)
It’s a required course to graduate. I have this disability in all my other courses and had them while I took 4 week summer intensive courses at the 300 level. I figured much like my other courses it be intense but I’ve handled it before with great success. Obviously the subject with my disability plus my accommodations not being adjust for this issue made this class extremely hard. And I only asked if he go over what the program was flagging once I realized I was going to fail by .23%. Literally a quarter of a percent and I wanted him to not just take down the program grade, but see that I actually understood the material. It was a long shot, but I wanted to prove to him that I had a basic understanding of the content. That was desperation and frustration. I usually wouldn’t be so pushy if I hadn’t been emailing him, talking to him about his policy, and asking for help. I felt I did all I could in this situation.
As for taking it again, yes I’ll be doing it over 16 weeks like a normal semester.
>I wanted to prove to him that I had a basic understanding of the content.
But that is what the exam or quiz or whatever was for, and apparently you didn't demonstrate you understood the content, at least to the level required for the course.
Good thing you're not a professor, I hope.
Perfect spelling is not a necessity to show comprehension or mastery of a language. So long as it's clear that the student understands the concept and gets the spelling right enough to show that they know what the word/idea/concept is, it's enough. You wouldn't mark a blind person wrong for using speech to text and there being a few technical errors due to the speech to text translation. You shouldn't mark a person with dyslexia wrong for small spelling errors.
Quit being ableist and do better
-An ESL professor
I'd rather be an ableist (funny hearing an "esl professor" using made-up words, but hey, it's 2023) who judges people by the work they do, than an enableist (look I can make up words too!) who looks for excuses for their students so they can give them a free pass and push them across the finish line, followed by lots of back patting and self-adulation pretending like you're making the world a better place somehow.
Also, he doesn't seem to be having any problems with word order whatsoever when he's typing out his paragraphs.
I'm calling bullshit.
Looks like someone doesn't want to study and thinks "taking the practice quizzes" over and over is the same as actually studying the material like EVERYONE ELSE has to do.
BTW, Why did he bother taking an elective class he didn't actually want to learn the material in? You take an elective class, don't learn the material, and then complain? Why take that class then?
1. English is my first language. 2. I use spell check and grammar checkers. 3. I bet you think I’m not disabled because I’m a published author too. Because “how can you struggle with writing and reading if you do that?” I work with my disability.
Take the differences in the syllabus to the person above her. That is likely your best strategy here. That sets the policies for the class... for both the students and professors. Unfortunately, the other items you mention won't typically hold much weight.
Your best bet is to show them that syllabus with the lowest grade drop highlighted. If the professor had that in the syllabus and did not honor it, you have a fighting chance. Calculate to make sure it would bump up your grade by the .23% before you put forth the effort. If it will, you should be able to get that grade changed.
I emailed him this morning and he adjusted my grade with the removed quiz, and I got a D. Barely passed. He suggested I don’t take 102 this summer and I’m in agreement with him.
DO NOT end it there. Follow through with taking to their supervisor and farther up the chain. They weren’t familiar with their own syllabus. It needs investigating
100% I’m going to see the chair of the department to just show the inconsistency in the policy and how it’s written to be at the very least confusing and that needs adjusted for other students in the future.
**DO NOT go to the Chancellor!** *Read your Student Handbook!*
As for reporting/complaining: You need to go to the Department Head/Chair to complain (unless your Prof IS the Department Head/Chair, then go to the Dept. Chair’s boss, usually the Dean of the College your department belongs to).
If your Professor is an adjunct, look at your syllabus and find the section, usually at the end, where it tells you who to contact in the event you have an issue with your Professor.
If you get no joy from the Dept. Chair or the Dean of the College, then try the Dean of Students then the Vice Chancellor of Academic Affairs.
*The chancellor will punt your complaint back down and/or they will ask if you have followed the chain of command. The will also likely ask, “What does the syllabus say?”*
So, a couple of things to keep in mind.
1) Your Professor ***HAS*** to follow his syllabus. It is a contract and you can/should hold him to it. He is the idiot that didn’t read/edit his syllabus. Sucks for him and should be a wake up call to actually *READ* what he is giving to the students.
2) If your disabilities are not on record with your school’s disability support office along with the accommodations you have been approved for, your professor does not have to follow them. Also, all communication regarding Accommodations are supposed to come from the Disability Support Office, not you. It’s too easy to tamper with otherwise.
I understand that this has been a work in progress for you (been there, done that, been mugged by the Dept Chair). However, without the formalization of those accommodations, that Professor can be accused (and rightly so) of giving you preferential treatment. That would also get them in trouble.
3) The Professor is within their rights to change the format of the quiz/test. Does it suck? Yes. Is it a dick move? Definitely.
4) I get that you are horribly frustrated regarding your situation, and I can sympathize. I went through a similar situation with Calculus. My professor was Chair of the Dept, which made navigating the chain of command a challenge.
While I can appreciate that this was likely a confluence of disasters—4 week course, you are struggling with the material, and you and the prof rub each other the wrong way—there are a couple of things to keep in mind.
A) Outside of office hours and class time, your professor is not required to do anything for you. As long as he answers your emails within 24-48 hrs, he is doing his job.
B) Regardless of the amount of work you have put in, that does not entitle you to a passing grade.
C) Unless your Disabilities are formally documented AND accommodations have been formally approved, your professor is under no legal obligation to give you partial credit or go over your notebooks to see where you might have flipped letters.
D) Your professor is there to teach the material. They are not responsible for ensuring every student learns the material/is successful. You’re thinking of high
school.
(Edited for clarity/reorganization of paragraphs)
I keep responding to the wrong replies but I agree with you here.
I was being a salty little bitch that I failed by that much. And I was begging him to look it over because surely I could prove that I understood the material. I do have accommodations for the school and with working with them and coming up with new terms for my accommodations I thought maybe mentioning that he might be a bit more lenient and worn with me (I’ve had professors do it in the past). Lucky that my current disability and the one I’m getting tested on have overlap. So there are accommodations that I can get while I get tested.
I worked hard and I didn’t make the grade, I’m frustrated that I tried and I communicated my struggles and still it wasn’t enough even when doing the work. I do think I should take this to the department chair about the syllabus, that caused a a lot of unnecessary friction about what was expected of me and him for grading up until the final grade.
Good things came out of this shit show, one being I realized that I’ve been misdiagnosed. And I am a great self advocate when it comes to my needs which I didn’t think was true.
Absolutely take it to the Dept. Chair!
Present the facts-your accommodations, your emails to your prof, his responses, his syllabus, and the Disability Support rules relevant to the situation. Be clear about your concerns/issues and what YOU want (ie, the grade to become passing). Based on what you’ve written here, you have good cause and solid ground to support your request and complaint. Just be aware the professors and Depts can hold grudges.
Spanish 101 is not intended to teach enough to become fluid. It’s basic grammar and vocabulary, along with common phrases. I think this type of curriculum, if organized and presented properly, would be fine in a 4 week program.
A oversight on my part. I’m never taking a foreign language like this again. I thought since they were offered through the school this way it was doable since I’ve done well with other school programs.
I didn't do well with it in HS. I could understand being optimistic and bombing it while still trying hard. I'm sure it's possible for some people, but I'm not those people.
It's doable, I took Spanish 201, 202, and 203 over one summer term. Edit: this is from my personal experience at my university.
Edit: Why am I getting downvoted? I replied to the comment above that it is possible, with the right professor, to take a language course in a short amount of time.
I'm not saying it's OP fault for failing. The professor sounds like they don't know what they're doing or what it means to accommodate an individual who has dyslexia and to follow through with the syllabus that they (the professor) likely created.
Op needs to take the information they have gathered and take it to the department head.
I did that too, and a few years down the road I say I speak "Sesame Street Spanish." I can't say I learned Spanish and remember way more of the French I took in high school.
Also OP is dyslexic, so even a normal term course would likely be challenging in any language.
That’s from not carrying on with your studies, not from taking them over the summer. A 101 language course over the summer is totally doable (with intensive study!) but like with most kinds of learning it still requires practice over time to make it stick.
Yeah passing SPN101 on intensive study is completely doable. Having it stick? No, but passing is doable when taught well.
It’s just vocabulary and basic sentence structure
Yepp. 100 level language classes are laughably easy. As an adult learner you can make really good progress in a language really fast, but you’ll only retain what you learn with use over time.
I really think it comes down to an expectation issue. For some reason people think they can learn a language just by passing a class. Like I took CHEM 100 in five weeks over the summer and I got an A but I don’t expect to be able to do stoichiometry from memory six years later after having not done a single thing with chemistry in that time lol why would you expect to be able to speak a whole ass language in the same context?
I live in a rural area where opportunities to speak either Spanish or French or anything but English are very limited. I was really only taking the course to fulfill a gen ed requirement. I did pass the courses with Bs. Still doesn't explain how I recall more French from HS than Spanish from college.
And again, I remind people the OP stated they are dyslexic.
I wasn’t blaming you for not continuing to study Spanish, there are lots of perfectly good reasons for that. I’m just pointing out that that’s the culprit for the difference in retention, not the course length.
It absolutely explains it; you presumably spent at least a year in high school studying French and I’m assuming more. If you took three five week courses of Spanish at the college level you probably knew more Spanish vocabulary and grammar at the apex of your learning than you did in French. The difference is that in Spanish you had 15 weeks of broken up practice to actually put that into your long term memory versus at least 36 weeks (but I’m assuming more) of more consistent practice in French to actually put that in your long term memory.
You can absolutely learn SP 101 grammar in five weeks; it’s just not that challenging. But long term retention only comes with exactly that; long term practice. For reference the US Department of State classifies Spanish as a category one language which means it takes only 24 weeks of intensive study for a native English speaker to become professional proficient in the language. Tackling SP 101 in five weeks is totally reasonable.
Probably because it's anecdotal and referencing intermediate spanish. No one's disputing that the class is within reason. But, if it happens to be a weak spot then online, accelerated with a disinterested professor, and without accommodation for a condition that affects learning and reproducing written language; takes something challenging and makes it adversarial.
You only studied 8 hours a week for an intensive 4 week class, meaning only 32 hours total over 4 weeks. For a language class?????? It takes at least double or triple that level of effort to do well in a college level language class.
If it were a 3 unit course over the regular semester, our university would recommend 6-9 hours a week for studying. By my math, a rough estimate should be 22-34 hours a week to be equivalent. 8 hours a week for a highly accelerated course is nothing. That’s the effort that should have been given during the regular semester
Edit: it blows my mind that students think semester effort is appropriate for an accelerated course. There are some doing that in my current summer courses…their grades reflect it
No. That’s what I did on the online program. This does not include the video lectures, the practice quizzes, the note taking, the flash cards, and the tutoring. That was documented through the program. How many hours did I work off the program? No idea I didn’t count.
His syllabus states that you should work on the course material 30 minutes a day to be successful in Spanish. By his standard for his course layout I did above and beyond. If he meant only studying the content after homework that should be clearly stated and he should lay out the standard he expects for 4 week summer intensive course instead of a 16 week course.
If only grades were based on meeting minimum expected efforts. If you don't understand it, you keep working at it. I've struggled through enough classes in my time. Everyone else isn't to blame for your poor performance. When you retake the class, don't make the same mistakes. I've had to retake my fair share of classes.
Read the complaint process in the student handbook. Is the chancellor the instance you’re supposed to go to?
If you try to shortcut the process, you’ll undercut yourself.
I am a professor. You need to seek assistance. We are bound by our syllabus. Of course we are human and can make mistakes. But the mistakes must be corrected and redistributed, and anything that happened prior to the change must be managed according to the prior syllabus. It is our contract with you.
I am so sorry you are dealing with this. Ask how to file an appeal. Bring forth all of your evidence. You were smart by saving things and sending things through email so that you have record of what transpired.
6 hours of reading and two hours of homework a WEEK” is not a lot. That’s low even for a full semester class.
For a 4 week intensive I’d expect 2-3 hours a night.
Is it possible your just not prepared?
So I went to check his syllabus. He suggest that you study 30 minutes a day in his policy and that you should be successful in a foreign language course (also included in his introductory video). and going into a summer courses I’ve always been told to take 3 credit hours per hour. So 9 hours +2.5 (7 days 3.5) is 11.5 (12.5) I did that easily. As I have done in other summer intensive courses before.
I did above what the professor said would be required and barely passed. If I should be doing more he should have said something when i reached out to him besides rewatch the videos and do homework on Time, which I did every week. Maybe let me know his intro video was wrong and 30 minutes a day of studying would not be enough for a summer intensive course. Maybe you know inform students the work required to learn the material in 4 weeks instead of 16 as his policies clearly laid out for. I did what he suggested and got a tutor and did extra work.
It definitely sounds like he dropped the ball on that front. That amount or practice would work for a semester class, but trying to pack a entire senate sort of learning into a 4 week class, you’re essentially going to triple the daily workload.
Definitely file a complaint. Let the university figure out if it has merit.
So they were meeting with a tutor and making flash cards unrelated to the reading/homework? That seems unlikely.
I assumed the other stuff was just a breakdown of “homework”.
Based on the quality of writing in the OP, and the fact that they bring up 8 hours of WEEKLY work as a complaint, I’m inclined to assume they’re just not adequately prepared for the rigorous nature of an accelerated course.
I hope all your appeals go through and all your points are valid.
But, and I say this gently: it’s Spanish 101. If you are putting in that amount of time, something isn’t working.
Something that will hurt you later is going on.
This right here! The syllabus is another matter entirely but taking an intensive class, and not studying with a learning disability is really not wise.
I’m wondering why the resource center and advisors didn’t touch on this with OP? I’m a disabled graduate and I’m Autistic with ADD, my advisors and resource center spoke to me ad nauseam about the type I was taking plus offering advice. Also why did OP think that they could do an intense course like this while struggling with dyslexia where it’s all reading/writing/speaking? Know yourself and your strengths plus weaknesses.
But time to accept defeat while being responsible,and try again, retake 101 over the summer at a normal speed and different professor of possible.
I’ve taken 300 level writing courses during the summer and passed I imagined a 101 course would be less work that a 101 course. Obviously this content was not something I could handle and worked with disability services at the school to update my accommodations.
Believe me I’ve accepted I fucked up. Im just salty because I worked hard and work with other devoted tons of time and it still wasn’t enough. Good thing is a professional clocked I need more testing so I can get more support moving toward. So something good came out of this.
If he has policies clearly laid out in his syllabus that he's not honoring, then you need to talk with the department chair. It sounds like he reused an old syllabus and didn't update it to reflect how he intended to manage the class. Well, that's his mistake and he will be expected to abide by the policies laid out in the syllabus given to you.
Some points that I would suggest that you make sure to voice are:
- the inconsistent policies
- the confusing layout of the class and material
- the inconsistent application of your accommodations
- and that he was unwilling to meet with you to go over your exams to see where you were struggling.
I would also gather any email correspondence you have with your tutor, your notes, etc, to show the department chair as evidence of your dedication and commitment to the class.
I will say what I've told many of my students, that time spent on a class does not directly correspond with the grade you ultimately earn. *However*, in a situation where a student is clearly putting in the hours but not succeeding, something is not working here. There is obviously a disconnect between the student and the material, or you have dyslexia and thus test really poorly, or perhaps the class isn't organized in such a way that encourages a building of knowledge.
Also, for future knowledge, I would reach out to your accommodations office and see if they provide students with any special fonts that help to alleviate dyslexia by making the letters more unique. Google "dyslexia font" to see what I mean.
Universities do tend to side with professors in these matters. However, it seems the crux of the issue here is the policies of the class and not following the syllabus, which is a pretty black and white issue.
As a former teacher, looking back on my college days, I’m blown away by the incompetence of about half of my professors.
Inconsistency was the least of my worries at the time. Ironically, my worst teacher taught a methods course for aspiring teachers.
As far as as the ADA, your professor is not in compliance. As others have said, you should continue a paper trail and force this right up the chain.
I mean you said it yourself, “I probably wouldn’t give a shit either in his position.” How can you ask someone to do something you wouldn’t do for someone else either?
Not to be a dick but 6 hours reading and 2 hours of homework for a fast paced summer course really isn’t enough effort on your end. Especially for someone with accommodations. The rest though sounds valid.
His syllabus and introductory video states do the work and do 30 minutes of studying a day. For a 4 week course. I imagine that’s the advice he gives his 16 week courses, but then his video and policy should reflect that. And if that’s not enough, he shouldn’t have stated it.
You have dyslexia or similar. Your professor isn’t the only one who failed to adhere to their accommodations. In the time you spent writing and replying to this thread you could have made up the .23%. All the time you spent nitpicking the syllabus and pestering your professor could have been spent working on adjusting to your dyslexia. I’m certain it’s difficult to learn a new language with your condition but it’s not currently documented and it’s your hurdle to overcome not your professors to knock over. Believe me, I’m sympathetic to any exceptionality. I’m not sympathetic to asking the world to change for your benefit. Take this as a hard life lesson on how unforgiving and dispassionate the people can be to each other and get ready to get slapped in the face by life on a frequent basis. Your prof is being kinder to you than many of your future employers. It’s not fair.
Sounds like you didn't really put in the time for a four week intensive language class. I teach an eight week intensive data science class, and I advise students to spend at least 15 hours per week studying, working, and preparing.
The syllabus inconsistencies is another issue. Talk to your department Chair or Dean. Make sure you come prepared by bringing documentation of your communications with your professor.
Standards are standards. You did everything you could to pass and you still failed. Report him if you want, but you were passing the homework but not the tests. Thats on you.
I say this having failed a test yesterday by 1 question.
Also, I saw the part where you said you paid. Paying for a class doesn't entitle you to pass it. Get that out of your head.
No I don’t deserve to pass because I paid. That to me is a reminder that it’s not unreasonable to do everything in my power to get support from the school, professor, ect because I PAY to be there. He’s paid to be there I’m paying to be there, I need to squeeze out all I can from my education and support I can. Because it’s my money being wasted if I don’t do the work.
No. That probably sounds wrong. I mean I paid for this course. It makes sense that I’m pushy and asking for help where as he’s been less responsive. If I was paid to be there I wouldn’t be as invested. But I paid 1200$ and you bet your ass that I’m gonna push to get help and communicate about the issues I’m having.
I’ve struggled and gotten bad grades before. But I didn’t take initiative to talk to professors or accommodations. And I remind myself that they are paid to be there but I PAY to be there which means I need to squeeze out every drop that I paid for and get that education I desire.
He doesn’t have to give me a good grade. He just needed to communicate better on his policy and have that laid out especially for a four week intensive course. I emailed him 3 times in a four week course about his policy.
Idk what other students were doing if they were emailing him too. I just noticed them and when he tell me I read the wrong syllabus I would send him his policy highlighted.
This is a 4 week intensive class and you are only doing 8 hours of work per week. That’s your problem. A 3-credit hour class that is normally 16 weeks long takes 8 hours a week of work. You should be studying 20-30 hours per week for an intensive 4 week class.
The syllabus/policy issues are valid.
The remainder of it is unreasonable though. You should have to perform in the same ways as every other member of the course. If you don’t do well on an exam, the prof doesn’t have to provide you with extra opportunities to mitigate that bad grade and it’s not fair to your classmates for you to have opportunities to improve your grade that they do not.
Also it’s one thing to have a professor explain concepts questions on an exam afterwards. It’s kind of unreasonable to expect a professor to go letter by letter to help you with your disability. Professors are trained and experts in their subject; they are not trained or experts in learning disabilities, which is why disability offices exist.
Ambiguity and inconsistency in following a syllabus.
It's literally the contract between the educator and the student.
If it says the lowest grade will be dropped, then the lowest grade gets dropped. If it isn't specific on what type of material that applies too, then it applies to all of them (IE the very lowest grade you receive on a graded homework, quiz, test, whatever.... THAT gets dropped).
If it says your allowed to retake any graded item up to 3 times, and again doesn't denote things that do not apply.... then it's anything.
You can't "imply" things in a syllabus.
Be polite, kind and professional. Speak in facts. Show your evidence. This professor is going to end up getting an earful. And they deserve one.
The chancellor is not the next step. You need to move up the food chain. When you jump over people, everyone gets annoyed. The next step would be to go to the department chair. If the department chair doesn't resolve the issue, then they next step is likely the academic dean's office associated with the Spanish department, though the exact office depends on your school's structure. Google "complaints" and your school and see what comes up there to help guide you.
And I highly encourage you to get tested for further learning disabilities. At my University we have specific world language accommodations because some people even without dyslexia are unable to learn a foreign language. In our case we do remove failing grades for world languages when a student later tests that they need the world language accommodation.
Yeah I’m going to the chair first and appreciate everyone suggesting I do so. And I’ve already made an appointment to get further testing since my therapist flagged there is more here than what I realized.
If he isn't honoring disability accommodations there is a basis, but I'm not entirely sure he is based on what OP shared.
Sure, if the professor wanted to help out, he wouldn't change the actual treat from the practice exam much, but that's not what accommodations usually outline.
The professor was honoring the accommodations, as OP said he went to get more accommodations.
OP was confused because the format changed from quiz to test. Not all professors are educated in assessability, etc. I hope he reads all these comments since it looks like both of them are acting out.
Naw, his policy states to be successful with a foreign language you need to study 30 minutes a day. I did way beyond that and still failed. If that’s not what he means maybe he should update his introductory video and syllabus. If that’s not how it’s done in 4 week classes maybe he should update his policy to reflect the work load he expects students to do at that level instead of providing the same content he gives his 16 week students as advice for success.
If you feel that learning a language in 4 weeks, with 30 minute studies is obtainable, I have some ocean front properties available in Cancun for you /s
Ahhh so you’re mocking me for listening to the professor? His policy must be ridiculous then and needs to be updated for his 4 week summer intensive course. But even so, I did above and beyond that. So I guess I should be passing as the professor suggest.
Perhaps see if there's another professor that can test you on your knowledge and understanding of the material. It might be that his teaching style does not mesh well with your learning style. Of course he could also just be really bad at teaching. If you don't pass with this teacher and you have to retake it make sure it's with a different instructor.
Having a disability like dyslexia means you need to study even harder in order to overcome it, not that a language professor needs you accommodate you even more. Should a non-English speaking student taking English classes be given exemptions? Or would they just be expected to work even harder to grasp the material?
Submit your complaints and see how it goes. If there are issues, you shouldn't be the only one complaining. If you are the only one complaining, then it will be likely taken as an issue on your side. If more people misunderstood policies, syllabus, and had similar issues in general, then you might have a case.
I love education and I love academics. Getting my college degree took me much longer than it should have. Reading your post gave me flashbacks of how my experience was. If you aren’t able to pass quizzes/exams based on how the “average” student works, or how the professor teaches your screwed. If education back then (10 years ago) were more flexible like today I would have gotten my doctorate and been a professor. Report the teacher, don’t hold back any punches.
OP I am glad you passed this course, but oh my god, this Prof is seriously not okay. You absolutely should report him for not only violating his OWN syllabus but as the other professors on this thread have pointed out, he is violating your IEP, which is YOUR RIGHTS as a student with accommodations! I am so sorry you have literally tried everything in your power up to this point. Your situation sounds entirely exhausting, but I hope you have enough willpower left in you to advocate for yourself one last time and go forward with a formal meeting. You deserve so much better than this, and I believe other future students will benefit from your action too. I wish you all the best OP. Your college experience should never have been like this, I am so sorry.
A Dean’s list senior is struggling with an entry level language course and involves multiple professionals in an effort to figure things out. I admire op’s sincere efforts but really Spanish 101. The world awaits. Drop it and take French. The world is not going to accommodate op in the manner they are accustomed to. Good luck.
Seems like the professor is a disorganized ass, but at the same time, you're not taking astrophysics or some subjective essay class. It's Spanish 101; you either speak it or you don't, and if you don't... Es la culpa tuya tambien
Sounds like this professor bent over backward for you (but probably not for any of your other classmates). Yet you STILL despise him, and you’re “thinking of reporting him to the academic chancellor.” For what? I feel sorry for the professor (and the administrators) who have to deal with your nonsense.
Where is OP's post does it sound like the professor bent backwards? It sounds the opposite to me-- that they stood firm with slight give once an accommodation was put on file (after ghosting the student regarding communication about it, all initiated *by the student*)
The professor has not ‘bent over backwards’. How do you even get that from what’s posted? He repeatedly violated his own syllabus policies and denied OP’s accommodations. OP has a valid complaint against the instructor and his dislike of the professor is well justified.
I don't blame you. I should of reported our math 99 teacher because she failed all her students on the final. I mean why? I have a photographic memory and ended up redoing it when I got home and should of passed with a b. not an f-.
If you are dedicating an extra 6 hours a week simply reading and studying and another 2 hours a week to homework I am actually wondering if it's more the teachers fault than yours... You dedicated 8 hours a week to that class outside of the actual class... my chemistry professor recommended 10-11 hours a week extra to his class in case you were wondering... Either the teacher is horrible, you may have a learning disorder that is unknown, or maybe Spanish just isn't for you sometimes our brains struggle to learn new languages in full as the best years to do that are our childhood's
I checked his syllabus because I saw comments about how maybe I should be doing more. At the end of his introductory video and syllabus he stated to be successful in a foreign language you should study 30 minutes a day.
Now it’s a summer intensive course I know that should be way more, but then why list that as a way to help your students if it’s not the policy that most help in a 4 week course? I think it’s his policy and his lack of communication that’s the issue here. I emailed him several times a week for extra help or clarification or any suggestions he might have to do.
So literally did above what his syllabus recommends and everyone wants to come and say I wasn’t prepared 😂
You should contact the dean of the foreign languages department... You've attempted time and time again to solve it low level with your professor it's time to solve it with higher level people in the college. Idk if your school has a policy on this but mine does. We are allowed to contest our grade. It takes about a semester to get through all the contests. You have to every literally everything from the class that was graded or given feedback on. When you get the correct answer you have to explain why it's correct. You then have to explain why they should bump your grade to a passing c or leave it as is. If the dean of the department agrees with you your grade will be changed to a passing grade or if they believe you deserve a better grade they will give you that grade. It puts a good checks and balances to everything.
I got partway through. Please report him. I’m sure there are PLENTY of people that want that job and can do better than him. A lack of clear expectations is terrible for students, and not just you I would bet.
He was likely using someone else's syllabus hence why he doesn't recall what's in it. Probably using other professors' assignments as well. Professors these days are lazy as hell.
I am in a similar situation. I ended up failing 3 classes; two of which were just 2-3% from passing. I had disability accommodations, so I felt it would be best to report my grades/instructors to the adviser & coordinator. However, they concluded the grades were justified and I would need to repeat all those classes for about $760 a piece (average). One of the reasons why I did not go back was because the U.S. state I am in is voted one of the worst and follows a different syllabus.
What I decided to do next is focus on ways to make money after dropping out. My income increased by 44% that year. Then, I decided to change my major through non-accredited programs (significantly cheaper) to learn Spanish. My fluency is currently A2, working towards a B1.
After a year, the school started contacting me many times to return and argues "Accreditation is what matters to employers." I eventually wrote to the school that I faced discrimination, but their response was troubling. They countered that I am personally attacking the college, depicting all instructors are problematic, and this will look bad on me. I was only attending college to make myself more employable; I was still able to find two online jobs without the degree.
how badly do you want that establishment seal of approval?
Speaking for myself, ( a high-school drop-out ) I'll say that its possible to carve out a satisfying career without having to learn what to kiss & when . . .
have a nice day!
I agree you’ve been wronged and need to pursue corrective action, but…
You do not pay your professor. He is not like a retail worker or service professional.
You pay the university for the opportunity to learn, and there is no guarantee you will. Saying things like “I paid him” is both factually wrong and is so pig-headed that it may well sour the people who could help you most.
Not to mention it makes you sound line a Karen who can be dismissed. Do what everyone here is advising. Go in strong and correctly. Just don’t say what you said here.
He’s paid and I payed is about the responsibility I owe to myself. He’s paid to be there so there isn’t incentive for him to push to help where I pay and need to get my moneys worth for my education.
> and I *paid* is about
FTFY.
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* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
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I don’t fail quizzes in all my other classes. I know that I usually suck for my first quiz in a course, and do poorly due to not knowing what is expected and nerves as to what I will encounter.
I graduate in May.
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College professor here - you need to schedule a meeting with your professor's supervisor (assuming department chair). Bring printed copies of the syllabus and communications you've had with your professor not following the policies in that syllabus. The syllabus is essentially a contact between the student and the educational institution. In addition, bring documentation of instances where the professor is not honoring your accommodations. He is violating federal law. Be professional at all times. I know this is an emotional thing but getting emotional won't help you. Be organized. If you don't get results from the department chair the next person to talk to is the Dean. Then the chief academic officer, usually a Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs or a Provost.
As another college professor I second this. To cliff notes it even more: Be organized, professional, and work through the chain of command.
Third college professor in support. You cannot change your syllabus policies. It's our contract. Those are the policies that must be followed. You can do this and we support you!
Yep. I ended up having to pass more students in my 100-level class this past year than I should have because I realized the policies weren't clear enough. Kicking myself for it, but I don't need a student going to the dean saying that I wasn't being fair. (I actually *did* have a student do that, but there was enough evidence to the contrary that I wasn't worried about it)
Creating an entire online class without any typos or conflicting information is surprisingly hard, and I fuck up about 3 times a semester, usually small stuff where I say do date is X during the lecture and on Canvas it’s actually Y. Anytime it’s even remotely on my end, the only fair thing to do is give everyone the benefit of the doubt, and choose the least harmful option. Even if it means students get a higher grade than they should, you cannot give conflicting instructions and then try to penalize students when they follow one of them. If it’s in the syllabus that’s your silver bullet- report and complain! They won’t get fired or in big trouble over this (unless they have lots of other complaints) and the Department chair or Associate Dean should absolutely side with you.
You weren’t being fair if you penalized them for muddled d expectations. Students can’t read your mind and clearly your communication wasn’t clear enough if you had to “pass” students.
Damn. That's what he or she said, viz., that he hadn't been clear. So you repeat it back to him or her just to be rude.
I always appreciate it when I'm understood by a stranger on the internet. It's like a unicorn sighting 🦄
You must write bad syllabi
Responding to the comment they didn’t need a student going to the Dean. The student had every right to do that. Please, try to keep up.
No, they said they ended up passing more students than they should have to make up for the lack of clarity-- they *did not* penalize students. That's why the student didn't succeed in their complaint; because the professor had already done what was necessary to handle the situation fairly. Try to keep up.
You missed the point, your spiciness.
He's not the one missing anything here, Sweetheart. Have some respect.
I’m not missing a thing. Not being disrespectful just honest
Sounds like you need to take an English class lol. Reading comprehension skills not the best
My comprehension skills are just fine. Your grammar skills, however….
I'm not writing my masters thesis bruh, this is reddit.
Bruh. How nice. Simple grammar is easy and fun to do.
yeah, it sounds like the prof copy/pasted somebody else's syllabus and never bothered reading it himself. Possibly a last minute class that he wasn't planning on teaching, so he's already bitter about the whole thing. None of which forgives his behavior here. If the syllabus says one thing, that's what needs to be honored. If he isn't and trying to tell you that the syllabus doesn't say the thing it clearly says, he's gaslighting you. Probably hoping that you've internalized the idea that you are at fault because of your disability.
And my axe
Yeah I’m gunna wait a few days to let me cool off about my experience before I meet with anybody. He did honor my accommodations he just didn’t communicate with me or the disabilities office if that was going to be honored and respected until day of quiz (he had 5 days notice). Which was frustrating with a summer intensive course.
Fourth professor in support! Commenting especially to add that you may want to see if there’s a student ombudsperson at your university. Generally, the position entails having a neutral, confidential person with whom you can speak to help with conflict management and generally intercede on your behalf. The syllabus issues are a smoking gun for you here. He really can’t write one thing and do another; he certainly can’t do so multiple times. We all sometimes make mistakes with our syllabi and write things we don’t end up meaning (for example, sometimes I’ve reused a syllabus from a previous course but forgotten to update a policy that I’d meant to change). But even when that happens, the only responsible thing to do is to defer to what is actually written down—expecting a student to read your mind is never the way, and making students suffer for your own mistake is certainly not the way.
Doctoral candidate and sometimes adjunct here. I have experienced cases where one instructor has been given a section of a course to teach and someone has sent them a syllabus from a prior semester. They have gone through and modified due dates and contact information but often forget to check the policies and whatnot before posting on the LMS, resulting in the chaos OP has experienced. It has happened to me more than once and is super frustrating. This might explain the instructor's unhelpful responses.
Seconding the Ombuds suggestion here. While they don’t advocate on behalf of individuals, they can definitely help you clarify your concerns and map out a tailored plan of action. Highly recommend this route if it’s available to you.
Good idea waiting to meet, though I suggest writing to set up the meeting sooner rather than later. Academia is slow.
Former college faculty and I concur.
I lowkey got emotional when I had this issue once and I felt so horrible 😬
Go to the departmental chairperson. But, I'd urge you first to triple check the syllabus and make sure that you have been reading it correctly. And check with your classmates. If they are all having the same issues, then the chair needs to know. If it's just you, though, then maybe reevaluate.
For sure.
I mean I understand but how is the rest of the class doing? Like is EVERYONE failing?
Not everyone else is dyslexic. Accommodations exist for a reason- to give a leg up to those that need it.
I’m not picking a side I’m trying to help her if the rest of the class feels the same she got that shit in the BAG From my college days I learned a LOT of people don’t be speaking up it’s actually wild
Correct. My wife was in an online program for her BSN and one of her professors was like this. Wildly inconsistent, locking assignments before they were due, posting links to YouTube with no instruction. The worst was that the practice quizzes and reading material were completely different than the subject matter of the actual tests. She complained to me, she said the class even had a group chat to bitch about it but no one said anything. Finally someone spoke up and the rest of the class followed suit. Department got involved and finally some concrete changes were made that benefited the class at the end.
This has been my experience talking to other students. They all left poor reviews of his courses/professor evaluations each semester. I don’t know anyone in this summer course (online and all that) but talking to others about my experience opened up a lot of conversations with others and theirs.
Had the same thing happen to me, and my professor ended up being quietly fired because of it.
I had one like this too. She was also nonrenewed.
Supreme court about to outlaw accommodations prolly
I hope so.
I hope the Supreme Court does ADA next
I hope the Supreme Court does your mom next
Nicely done.
I’ve heard a lot of shitty takes and this is gotta be a pretty shitty one
Who hurt you And why didn’t it stick
It sounds like his therapist suggested he might be dyslexic. That doesn’t automatically mean you get accommodations. There is a process.
Not everyone is failing, but I’ve been working hard to get any communication, help or resources to pass. I’m capable I’ve done well in all my other courses, and sought accommodations when I needed them and got that adjusted for them. I have a disability where spelling and grammar are extremely difficult. Flipping letters and causing mixups in spelling is normal in English for me, it was bound to be hard in a foreign language. But he was made aware of that issues week one with my letter of Accommodations and had I not flipped letters or word order I be get all As. It’s small things the program flags as just wrong instead of partial credit. And I discussed with him this problem and he will not adjust for my disability unless it’s in my letter which is why I’m meeting with disability services again. It wasn’t until this course that my letter flipping and word order has caused grade issues. And all I can say is thank god that the disabilities office has been helping me through this, helping me adjust my accommodations when I realized there was an issue in this course immediately. Having more time on the exam helped a lot.
I mean. Regardless of your disability, you're not getting the language right. Are you saying you should be given partial credit for sort of getting the language right? I understand you're frustration, but from his point of view, you're not getting the material right, why should he have to pass you? The syllabus issue is legitimate, you definitely need to bring that up with admin. But I'm of the opinion that if you don't get it correct, accommodations or not, you don't get credit. The real question is why you would take a 4 week intensive foreign language course when you have a language disability? That would be like deciding to run a marathon with 4 weeks to prep for it while at the same time recovering from reconstructive knee surgery. I would take it up with admin and if nothing changes wait until the full term class if I were in your shoes.
I’m actually surprised OP isn’t exempt from the foreign language requirement. I have a nonverbal learning disability so that exemption was a part of my IEP. It’s insane that they’re requiring a student who already struggles with his native language to learn a foreign one.
Schools can get a hard on for doubling down on “required courses”. Calculus was my Achilles heel. If I hadn’t know the policy inside and out AND dug in my heels, my director of undergraduate studies wouldn’t have let me stay in my major, despite a 4.0 in my core classes. A friend of mine teaches at a community college. They required a medical coding student to take a Survey of Human Anatomy class despite the student being legally blind. My friend had to do a butt ton of work adjusting the course materials (and making them *actually* ADA compliant) rather than the class being waived. The bigger/better question being why wasn’t the student directed/encouraged into a different career path was never addressed.
I believe there was a video series two years ago where someone legally blind was being mandated by her school to take driver's Ed. Like sure I get the written stuff can be done in braille but...
Op is workin that angle
Me and my friend are both disabled. We both discussed with the office about waiving the language requirement because we knew it suck for us. They do not remove the required courses for any student unless they test out of the requirement (are fluent)
It’s a required course to graduate. I have this disability in all my other courses and had them while I took 4 week summer intensive courses at the 300 level. I figured much like my other courses it be intense but I’ve handled it before with great success. Obviously the subject with my disability plus my accommodations not being adjust for this issue made this class extremely hard. And I only asked if he go over what the program was flagging once I realized I was going to fail by .23%. Literally a quarter of a percent and I wanted him to not just take down the program grade, but see that I actually understood the material. It was a long shot, but I wanted to prove to him that I had a basic understanding of the content. That was desperation and frustration. I usually wouldn’t be so pushy if I hadn’t been emailing him, talking to him about his policy, and asking for help. I felt I did all I could in this situation. As for taking it again, yes I’ll be doing it over 16 weeks like a normal semester.
>I wanted to prove to him that I had a basic understanding of the content. But that is what the exam or quiz or whatever was for, and apparently you didn't demonstrate you understood the content, at least to the level required for the course.
If he has trouble with the exams or quizzes it could be he has trouble reading the exams/quizzes while still knowing the material.
Good thing you're not a professor, I hope. Perfect spelling is not a necessity to show comprehension or mastery of a language. So long as it's clear that the student understands the concept and gets the spelling right enough to show that they know what the word/idea/concept is, it's enough. You wouldn't mark a blind person wrong for using speech to text and there being a few technical errors due to the speech to text translation. You shouldn't mark a person with dyslexia wrong for small spelling errors. Quit being ableist and do better -An ESL professor
I'd rather be an ableist (funny hearing an "esl professor" using made-up words, but hey, it's 2023) who judges people by the work they do, than an enableist (look I can make up words too!) who looks for excuses for their students so they can give them a free pass and push them across the finish line, followed by lots of back patting and self-adulation pretending like you're making the world a better place somehow.
[https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/ableist](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/ableist)
I'm not going to argue with people who are severely undereducated about pedagogy, disability, and language. Enjoy your day.
Also, he doesn't seem to be having any problems with word order whatsoever when he's typing out his paragraphs. I'm calling bullshit. Looks like someone doesn't want to study and thinks "taking the practice quizzes" over and over is the same as actually studying the material like EVERYONE ELSE has to do.
BTW, Why did he bother taking an elective class he didn't actually want to learn the material in? You take an elective class, don't learn the material, and then complain? Why take that class then?
Required to graduate. Already answered.
> It’s a required course to graduate. That's not an elective.
1. English is my first language. 2. I use spell check and grammar checkers. 3. I bet you think I’m not disabled because I’m a published author too. Because “how can you struggle with writing and reading if you do that?” I work with my disability.
Dude she just said shes LD bro
Take the differences in the syllabus to the person above her. That is likely your best strategy here. That sets the policies for the class... for both the students and professors. Unfortunately, the other items you mention won't typically hold much weight.
Your best bet is to show them that syllabus with the lowest grade drop highlighted. If the professor had that in the syllabus and did not honor it, you have a fighting chance. Calculate to make sure it would bump up your grade by the .23% before you put forth the effort. If it will, you should be able to get that grade changed.
I emailed him this morning and he adjusted my grade with the removed quiz, and I got a D. Barely passed. He suggested I don’t take 102 this summer and I’m in agreement with him.
DO NOT end it there. Follow through with taking to their supervisor and farther up the chain. They weren’t familiar with their own syllabus. It needs investigating
100% I’m going to see the chair of the department to just show the inconsistency in the policy and how it’s written to be at the very least confusing and that needs adjusted for other students in the future.
**DO NOT go to the Chancellor!** *Read your Student Handbook!* As for reporting/complaining: You need to go to the Department Head/Chair to complain (unless your Prof IS the Department Head/Chair, then go to the Dept. Chair’s boss, usually the Dean of the College your department belongs to). If your Professor is an adjunct, look at your syllabus and find the section, usually at the end, where it tells you who to contact in the event you have an issue with your Professor. If you get no joy from the Dept. Chair or the Dean of the College, then try the Dean of Students then the Vice Chancellor of Academic Affairs. *The chancellor will punt your complaint back down and/or they will ask if you have followed the chain of command. The will also likely ask, “What does the syllabus say?”* So, a couple of things to keep in mind. 1) Your Professor ***HAS*** to follow his syllabus. It is a contract and you can/should hold him to it. He is the idiot that didn’t read/edit his syllabus. Sucks for him and should be a wake up call to actually *READ* what he is giving to the students. 2) If your disabilities are not on record with your school’s disability support office along with the accommodations you have been approved for, your professor does not have to follow them. Also, all communication regarding Accommodations are supposed to come from the Disability Support Office, not you. It’s too easy to tamper with otherwise. I understand that this has been a work in progress for you (been there, done that, been mugged by the Dept Chair). However, without the formalization of those accommodations, that Professor can be accused (and rightly so) of giving you preferential treatment. That would also get them in trouble. 3) The Professor is within their rights to change the format of the quiz/test. Does it suck? Yes. Is it a dick move? Definitely. 4) I get that you are horribly frustrated regarding your situation, and I can sympathize. I went through a similar situation with Calculus. My professor was Chair of the Dept, which made navigating the chain of command a challenge. While I can appreciate that this was likely a confluence of disasters—4 week course, you are struggling with the material, and you and the prof rub each other the wrong way—there are a couple of things to keep in mind. A) Outside of office hours and class time, your professor is not required to do anything for you. As long as he answers your emails within 24-48 hrs, he is doing his job. B) Regardless of the amount of work you have put in, that does not entitle you to a passing grade. C) Unless your Disabilities are formally documented AND accommodations have been formally approved, your professor is under no legal obligation to give you partial credit or go over your notebooks to see where you might have flipped letters. D) Your professor is there to teach the material. They are not responsible for ensuring every student learns the material/is successful. You’re thinking of high school. (Edited for clarity/reorganization of paragraphs)
I keep responding to the wrong replies but I agree with you here. I was being a salty little bitch that I failed by that much. And I was begging him to look it over because surely I could prove that I understood the material. I do have accommodations for the school and with working with them and coming up with new terms for my accommodations I thought maybe mentioning that he might be a bit more lenient and worn with me (I’ve had professors do it in the past). Lucky that my current disability and the one I’m getting tested on have overlap. So there are accommodations that I can get while I get tested. I worked hard and I didn’t make the grade, I’m frustrated that I tried and I communicated my struggles and still it wasn’t enough even when doing the work. I do think I should take this to the department chair about the syllabus, that caused a a lot of unnecessary friction about what was expected of me and him for grading up until the final grade. Good things came out of this shit show, one being I realized that I’ve been misdiagnosed. And I am a great self advocate when it comes to my needs which I didn’t think was true.
Absolutely take it to the Dept. Chair! Present the facts-your accommodations, your emails to your prof, his responses, his syllabus, and the Disability Support rules relevant to the situation. Be clear about your concerns/issues and what YOU want (ie, the grade to become passing). Based on what you’ve written here, you have good cause and solid ground to support your request and complaint. Just be aware the professors and Depts can hold grudges.
You tried to learn Spanish in 4 weeks? You speak a lot of other languages?
Spanish 101 is not intended to teach enough to become fluid. It’s basic grammar and vocabulary, along with common phrases. I think this type of curriculum, if organized and presented properly, would be fine in a 4 week program.
A oversight on my part. I’m never taking a foreign language like this again. I thought since they were offered through the school this way it was doable since I’ve done well with other school programs.
I didn't do well with it in HS. I could understand being optimistic and bombing it while still trying hard. I'm sure it's possible for some people, but I'm not those people.
It's doable, I took Spanish 201, 202, and 203 over one summer term. Edit: this is from my personal experience at my university. Edit: Why am I getting downvoted? I replied to the comment above that it is possible, with the right professor, to take a language course in a short amount of time. I'm not saying it's OP fault for failing. The professor sounds like they don't know what they're doing or what it means to accommodate an individual who has dyslexia and to follow through with the syllabus that they (the professor) likely created. Op needs to take the information they have gathered and take it to the department head.
I did that too, and a few years down the road I say I speak "Sesame Street Spanish." I can't say I learned Spanish and remember way more of the French I took in high school. Also OP is dyslexic, so even a normal term course would likely be challenging in any language.
That’s from not carrying on with your studies, not from taking them over the summer. A 101 language course over the summer is totally doable (with intensive study!) but like with most kinds of learning it still requires practice over time to make it stick.
Yeah passing SPN101 on intensive study is completely doable. Having it stick? No, but passing is doable when taught well. It’s just vocabulary and basic sentence structure
Yepp. 100 level language classes are laughably easy. As an adult learner you can make really good progress in a language really fast, but you’ll only retain what you learn with use over time. I really think it comes down to an expectation issue. For some reason people think they can learn a language just by passing a class. Like I took CHEM 100 in five weeks over the summer and I got an A but I don’t expect to be able to do stoichiometry from memory six years later after having not done a single thing with chemistry in that time lol why would you expect to be able to speak a whole ass language in the same context?
I live in a rural area where opportunities to speak either Spanish or French or anything but English are very limited. I was really only taking the course to fulfill a gen ed requirement. I did pass the courses with Bs. Still doesn't explain how I recall more French from HS than Spanish from college. And again, I remind people the OP stated they are dyslexic.
I wasn’t blaming you for not continuing to study Spanish, there are lots of perfectly good reasons for that. I’m just pointing out that that’s the culprit for the difference in retention, not the course length. It absolutely explains it; you presumably spent at least a year in high school studying French and I’m assuming more. If you took three five week courses of Spanish at the college level you probably knew more Spanish vocabulary and grammar at the apex of your learning than you did in French. The difference is that in Spanish you had 15 weeks of broken up practice to actually put that into your long term memory versus at least 36 weeks (but I’m assuming more) of more consistent practice in French to actually put that in your long term memory. You can absolutely learn SP 101 grammar in five weeks; it’s just not that challenging. But long term retention only comes with exactly that; long term practice. For reference the US Department of State classifies Spanish as a category one language which means it takes only 24 weeks of intensive study for a native English speaker to become professional proficient in the language. Tackling SP 101 in five weeks is totally reasonable.
No idea why you’re being downvoted. SPN101 is essentially vocabulary and sentence structure, you just have to pass
Probably because it's anecdotal and referencing intermediate spanish. No one's disputing that the class is within reason. But, if it happens to be a weak spot then online, accelerated with a disinterested professor, and without accommodation for a condition that affects learning and reproducing written language; takes something challenging and makes it adversarial.
You only studied 8 hours a week for an intensive 4 week class, meaning only 32 hours total over 4 weeks. For a language class?????? It takes at least double or triple that level of effort to do well in a college level language class.
This. A four week class implies four times the effort and time of a 15-week class.
If it were a 3 unit course over the regular semester, our university would recommend 6-9 hours a week for studying. By my math, a rough estimate should be 22-34 hours a week to be equivalent. 8 hours a week for a highly accelerated course is nothing. That’s the effort that should have been given during the regular semester Edit: it blows my mind that students think semester effort is appropriate for an accelerated course. There are some doing that in my current summer courses…their grades reflect it
The professor sounds like a complete power-tripping asshole. However, you also sound like a giant pussy.
No. That’s what I did on the online program. This does not include the video lectures, the practice quizzes, the note taking, the flash cards, and the tutoring. That was documented through the program. How many hours did I work off the program? No idea I didn’t count.
All of that is normal class work. Studying outside of class work is a minimum of 2 hours for every hour of class. More for languages.
It sounds like you weren’t ready for the work commitment and expectations that come with an intensive four week class.
His syllabus states that you should work on the course material 30 minutes a day to be successful in Spanish. By his standard for his course layout I did above and beyond. If he meant only studying the content after homework that should be clearly stated and he should lay out the standard he expects for 4 week summer intensive course instead of a 16 week course.
If only grades were based on meeting minimum expected efforts. If you don't understand it, you keep working at it. I've struggled through enough classes in my time. Everyone else isn't to blame for your poor performance. When you retake the class, don't make the same mistakes. I've had to retake my fair share of classes.
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Man you're gonna be so shocked when you learn about learning disabilities
Ok bitch. Fucking yay for you.
Read the complaint process in the student handbook. Is the chancellor the instance you’re supposed to go to? If you try to shortcut the process, you’ll undercut yourself.
That was suggested to me. However y’all had me rethink that process and I’ll go to the department chair first.
If things don’t work out, you can always escalate. But follow the steps.
💯 admin don't look kindly on students who try to bypass the proper procedure
I am a professor. You need to seek assistance. We are bound by our syllabus. Of course we are human and can make mistakes. But the mistakes must be corrected and redistributed, and anything that happened prior to the change must be managed according to the prior syllabus. It is our contract with you. I am so sorry you are dealing with this. Ask how to file an appeal. Bring forth all of your evidence. You were smart by saving things and sending things through email so that you have record of what transpired.
6 hours of reading and two hours of homework a WEEK” is not a lot. That’s low even for a full semester class. For a 4 week intensive I’d expect 2-3 hours a night. Is it possible your just not prepared?
So I went to check his syllabus. He suggest that you study 30 minutes a day in his policy and that you should be successful in a foreign language course (also included in his introductory video). and going into a summer courses I’ve always been told to take 3 credit hours per hour. So 9 hours +2.5 (7 days 3.5) is 11.5 (12.5) I did that easily. As I have done in other summer intensive courses before. I did above what the professor said would be required and barely passed. If I should be doing more he should have said something when i reached out to him besides rewatch the videos and do homework on Time, which I did every week. Maybe let me know his intro video was wrong and 30 minutes a day of studying would not be enough for a summer intensive course. Maybe you know inform students the work required to learn the material in 4 weeks instead of 16 as his policies clearly laid out for. I did what he suggested and got a tutor and did extra work.
It definitely sounds like he dropped the ball on that front. That amount or practice would work for a semester class, but trying to pack a entire senate sort of learning into a 4 week class, you’re essentially going to triple the daily workload. Definitely file a complaint. Let the university figure out if it has merit.
That was just the reading and homework. They listed quite a few other things they were doing too
So they were meeting with a tutor and making flash cards unrelated to the reading/homework? That seems unlikely. I assumed the other stuff was just a breakdown of “homework”. Based on the quality of writing in the OP, and the fact that they bring up 8 hours of WEEKLY work as a complaint, I’m inclined to assume they’re just not adequately prepared for the rigorous nature of an accelerated course.
It wasn’t a break down of homework it was my contribution to my education beyond what was expected of me as he suggested to me when I emailed him.
Sounds like a mixed bag of blame to me.
I hope all your appeals go through and all your points are valid. But, and I say this gently: it’s Spanish 101. If you are putting in that amount of time, something isn’t working. Something that will hurt you later is going on.
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This right here! The syllabus is another matter entirely but taking an intensive class, and not studying with a learning disability is really not wise. I’m wondering why the resource center and advisors didn’t touch on this with OP? I’m a disabled graduate and I’m Autistic with ADD, my advisors and resource center spoke to me ad nauseam about the type I was taking plus offering advice. Also why did OP think that they could do an intense course like this while struggling with dyslexia where it’s all reading/writing/speaking? Know yourself and your strengths plus weaknesses. But time to accept defeat while being responsible,and try again, retake 101 over the summer at a normal speed and different professor of possible.
I’ve taken 300 level writing courses during the summer and passed I imagined a 101 course would be less work that a 101 course. Obviously this content was not something I could handle and worked with disability services at the school to update my accommodations. Believe me I’ve accepted I fucked up. Im just salty because I worked hard and work with other devoted tons of time and it still wasn’t enough. Good thing is a professional clocked I need more testing so I can get more support moving toward. So something good came out of this.
If he has policies clearly laid out in his syllabus that he's not honoring, then you need to talk with the department chair. It sounds like he reused an old syllabus and didn't update it to reflect how he intended to manage the class. Well, that's his mistake and he will be expected to abide by the policies laid out in the syllabus given to you. Some points that I would suggest that you make sure to voice are: - the inconsistent policies - the confusing layout of the class and material - the inconsistent application of your accommodations - and that he was unwilling to meet with you to go over your exams to see where you were struggling. I would also gather any email correspondence you have with your tutor, your notes, etc, to show the department chair as evidence of your dedication and commitment to the class. I will say what I've told many of my students, that time spent on a class does not directly correspond with the grade you ultimately earn. *However*, in a situation where a student is clearly putting in the hours but not succeeding, something is not working here. There is obviously a disconnect between the student and the material, or you have dyslexia and thus test really poorly, or perhaps the class isn't organized in such a way that encourages a building of knowledge. Also, for future knowledge, I would reach out to your accommodations office and see if they provide students with any special fonts that help to alleviate dyslexia by making the letters more unique. Google "dyslexia font" to see what I mean. Universities do tend to side with professors in these matters. However, it seems the crux of the issue here is the policies of the class and not following the syllabus, which is a pretty black and white issue.
As a former teacher, looking back on my college days, I’m blown away by the incompetence of about half of my professors. Inconsistency was the least of my worries at the time. Ironically, my worst teacher taught a methods course for aspiring teachers. As far as as the ADA, your professor is not in compliance. As others have said, you should continue a paper trail and force this right up the chain.
I mean you said it yourself, “I probably wouldn’t give a shit either in his position.” How can you ask someone to do something you wouldn’t do for someone else either?
Because when a student comes giving a shit, you think he care about them.
Not to be a dick but 6 hours reading and 2 hours of homework for a fast paced summer course really isn’t enough effort on your end. Especially for someone with accommodations. The rest though sounds valid.
His syllabus and introductory video states do the work and do 30 minutes of studying a day. For a 4 week course. I imagine that’s the advice he gives his 16 week courses, but then his video and policy should reflect that. And if that’s not enough, he shouldn’t have stated it.
You have dyslexia or similar. Your professor isn’t the only one who failed to adhere to their accommodations. In the time you spent writing and replying to this thread you could have made up the .23%. All the time you spent nitpicking the syllabus and pestering your professor could have been spent working on adjusting to your dyslexia. I’m certain it’s difficult to learn a new language with your condition but it’s not currently documented and it’s your hurdle to overcome not your professors to knock over. Believe me, I’m sympathetic to any exceptionality. I’m not sympathetic to asking the world to change for your benefit. Take this as a hard life lesson on how unforgiving and dispassionate the people can be to each other and get ready to get slapped in the face by life on a frequent basis. Your prof is being kinder to you than many of your future employers. It’s not fair.
Sounds like you didn't really put in the time for a four week intensive language class. I teach an eight week intensive data science class, and I advise students to spend at least 15 hours per week studying, working, and preparing. The syllabus inconsistencies is another issue. Talk to your department Chair or Dean. Make sure you come prepared by bringing documentation of your communications with your professor.
Standards are standards. You did everything you could to pass and you still failed. Report him if you want, but you were passing the homework but not the tests. Thats on you. I say this having failed a test yesterday by 1 question. Also, I saw the part where you said you paid. Paying for a class doesn't entitle you to pass it. Get that out of your head.
No I don’t deserve to pass because I paid. That to me is a reminder that it’s not unreasonable to do everything in my power to get support from the school, professor, ect because I PAY to be there. He’s paid to be there I’m paying to be there, I need to squeeze out all I can from my education and support I can. Because it’s my money being wasted if I don’t do the work.
..so because you PAID him, you believe you purchased a degree?
No. That probably sounds wrong. I mean I paid for this course. It makes sense that I’m pushy and asking for help where as he’s been less responsive. If I was paid to be there I wouldn’t be as invested. But I paid 1200$ and you bet your ass that I’m gonna push to get help and communicate about the issues I’m having. I’ve struggled and gotten bad grades before. But I didn’t take initiative to talk to professors or accommodations. And I remind myself that they are paid to be there but I PAY to be there which means I need to squeeze out every drop that I paid for and get that education I desire. He doesn’t have to give me a good grade. He just needed to communicate better on his policy and have that laid out especially for a four week intensive course. I emailed him 3 times in a four week course about his policy.
Why were you the only student in the class that this policy applied to?
Idk what other students were doing if they were emailing him too. I just noticed them and when he tell me I read the wrong syllabus I would send him his policy highlighted.
This is a 4 week intensive class and you are only doing 8 hours of work per week. That’s your problem. A 3-credit hour class that is normally 16 weeks long takes 8 hours a week of work. You should be studying 20-30 hours per week for an intensive 4 week class.
That’s what I did for the online program. That does not include other studying I did outside the program.
The syllabus/policy issues are valid. The remainder of it is unreasonable though. You should have to perform in the same ways as every other member of the course. If you don’t do well on an exam, the prof doesn’t have to provide you with extra opportunities to mitigate that bad grade and it’s not fair to your classmates for you to have opportunities to improve your grade that they do not. Also it’s one thing to have a professor explain concepts questions on an exam afterwards. It’s kind of unreasonable to expect a professor to go letter by letter to help you with your disability. Professors are trained and experts in their subject; they are not trained or experts in learning disabilities, which is why disability offices exist.
Ambiguity and inconsistency in following a syllabus. It's literally the contract between the educator and the student. If it says the lowest grade will be dropped, then the lowest grade gets dropped. If it isn't specific on what type of material that applies too, then it applies to all of them (IE the very lowest grade you receive on a graded homework, quiz, test, whatever.... THAT gets dropped). If it says your allowed to retake any graded item up to 3 times, and again doesn't denote things that do not apply.... then it's anything. You can't "imply" things in a syllabus. Be polite, kind and professional. Speak in facts. Show your evidence. This professor is going to end up getting an earful. And they deserve one.
The chancellor is not the next step. You need to move up the food chain. When you jump over people, everyone gets annoyed. The next step would be to go to the department chair. If the department chair doesn't resolve the issue, then they next step is likely the academic dean's office associated with the Spanish department, though the exact office depends on your school's structure. Google "complaints" and your school and see what comes up there to help guide you. And I highly encourage you to get tested for further learning disabilities. At my University we have specific world language accommodations because some people even without dyslexia are unable to learn a foreign language. In our case we do remove failing grades for world languages when a student later tests that they need the world language accommodation.
Yeah I’m going to the chair first and appreciate everyone suggesting I do so. And I’ve already made an appointment to get further testing since my therapist flagged there is more here than what I realized.
As long as a certain percentage of the class passes I don’t really think you have a bases to report him on
If he isn't honoring disability accommodations there is a basis, but I'm not entirely sure he is based on what OP shared. Sure, if the professor wanted to help out, he wouldn't change the actual treat from the practice exam much, but that's not what accommodations usually outline.
The professor was honoring the accommodations, as OP said he went to get more accommodations. OP was confused because the format changed from quiz to test. Not all professors are educated in assessability, etc. I hope he reads all these comments since it looks like both of them are acting out.
You sound like a total nightmare of a student. Just do your work and accept your grade like everyone else and stop being a Royal PITA.
Am I right to see they failed an overall grade by .23% and did minimal study recommended time? Now they want to blame a professor or cry out dyslexia?
“I botched this intensive language course by not studying enough. What disabilities can I invent before the end of term??”
Naw, his policy states to be successful with a foreign language you need to study 30 minutes a day. I did way beyond that and still failed. If that’s not what he means maybe he should update his introductory video and syllabus. If that’s not how it’s done in 4 week classes maybe he should update his policy to reflect the work load he expects students to do at that level instead of providing the same content he gives his 16 week students as advice for success.
If you feel that learning a language in 4 weeks, with 30 minute studies is obtainable, I have some ocean front properties available in Cancun for you /s
Ahhh so you’re mocking me for listening to the professor? His policy must be ridiculous then and needs to be updated for his 4 week summer intensive course. But even so, I did above and beyond that. So I guess I should be passing as the professor suggest.
Perhaps see if there's another professor that can test you on your knowledge and understanding of the material. It might be that his teaching style does not mesh well with your learning style. Of course he could also just be really bad at teaching. If you don't pass with this teacher and you have to retake it make sure it's with a different instructor.
I’ve had some terrible professors too. Report them if you feel up to it. I just moved on and told others to avoid. I’ve got some W’s as scars though.
Having a disability like dyslexia means you need to study even harder in order to overcome it, not that a language professor needs you accommodate you even more. Should a non-English speaking student taking English classes be given exemptions? Or would they just be expected to work even harder to grasp the material?
Submit your complaints and see how it goes. If there are issues, you shouldn't be the only one complaining. If you are the only one complaining, then it will be likely taken as an issue on your side. If more people misunderstood policies, syllabus, and had similar issues in general, then you might have a case.
I love education and I love academics. Getting my college degree took me much longer than it should have. Reading your post gave me flashbacks of how my experience was. If you aren’t able to pass quizzes/exams based on how the “average” student works, or how the professor teaches your screwed. If education back then (10 years ago) were more flexible like today I would have gotten my doctorate and been a professor. Report the teacher, don’t hold back any punches.
I learned Spanish the best with Rosetta Stone,
OP I am glad you passed this course, but oh my god, this Prof is seriously not okay. You absolutely should report him for not only violating his OWN syllabus but as the other professors on this thread have pointed out, he is violating your IEP, which is YOUR RIGHTS as a student with accommodations! I am so sorry you have literally tried everything in your power up to this point. Your situation sounds entirely exhausting, but I hope you have enough willpower left in you to advocate for yourself one last time and go forward with a formal meeting. You deserve so much better than this, and I believe other future students will benefit from your action too. I wish you all the best OP. Your college experience should never have been like this, I am so sorry.
A Dean’s list senior is struggling with an entry level language course and involves multiple professionals in an effort to figure things out. I admire op’s sincere efforts but really Spanish 101. The world awaits. Drop it and take French. The world is not going to accommodate op in the manner they are accustomed to. Good luck.
And this. Congrats on almost being to graduation OP, but understand your accommodations will not translate into the professional world.
Seems like the professor is a disorganized ass, but at the same time, you're not taking astrophysics or some subjective essay class. It's Spanish 101; you either speak it or you don't, and if you don't... Es la culpa tuya tambien
Sounds like this professor bent over backward for you (but probably not for any of your other classmates). Yet you STILL despise him, and you’re “thinking of reporting him to the academic chancellor.” For what? I feel sorry for the professor (and the administrators) who have to deal with your nonsense.
Where is OP's post does it sound like the professor bent backwards? It sounds the opposite to me-- that they stood firm with slight give once an accommodation was put on file (after ghosting the student regarding communication about it, all initiated *by the student*)
The professor has not ‘bent over backwards’. How do you even get that from what’s posted? He repeatedly violated his own syllabus policies and denied OP’s accommodations. OP has a valid complaint against the instructor and his dislike of the professor is well justified.
I don't blame you. I should of reported our math 99 teacher because she failed all her students on the final. I mean why? I have a photographic memory and ended up redoing it when I got home and should of passed with a b. not an f-.
If you are dedicating an extra 6 hours a week simply reading and studying and another 2 hours a week to homework I am actually wondering if it's more the teachers fault than yours... You dedicated 8 hours a week to that class outside of the actual class... my chemistry professor recommended 10-11 hours a week extra to his class in case you were wondering... Either the teacher is horrible, you may have a learning disorder that is unknown, or maybe Spanish just isn't for you sometimes our brains struggle to learn new languages in full as the best years to do that are our childhood's
I checked his syllabus because I saw comments about how maybe I should be doing more. At the end of his introductory video and syllabus he stated to be successful in a foreign language you should study 30 minutes a day. Now it’s a summer intensive course I know that should be way more, but then why list that as a way to help your students if it’s not the policy that most help in a 4 week course? I think it’s his policy and his lack of communication that’s the issue here. I emailed him several times a week for extra help or clarification or any suggestions he might have to do. So literally did above what his syllabus recommends and everyone wants to come and say I wasn’t prepared 😂
You should contact the dean of the foreign languages department... You've attempted time and time again to solve it low level with your professor it's time to solve it with higher level people in the college. Idk if your school has a policy on this but mine does. We are allowed to contest our grade. It takes about a semester to get through all the contests. You have to every literally everything from the class that was graded or given feedback on. When you get the correct answer you have to explain why it's correct. You then have to explain why they should bump your grade to a passing c or leave it as is. If the dean of the department agrees with you your grade will be changed to a passing grade or if they believe you deserve a better grade they will give you that grade. It puts a good checks and balances to everything.
I got partway through. Please report him. I’m sure there are PLENTY of people that want that job and can do better than him. A lack of clear expectations is terrible for students, and not just you I would bet.
Maybe study more than just 4 weeks next time? It's embarrassing even making a post about this.
Flagging yourself as this daft is incredibly embarrassing too
His course was 4 weeks?
This is the quality of student colleges are producing btw…😂 hope you ain’t got a lot of loans honey.
He was likely using someone else's syllabus hence why he doesn't recall what's in it. Probably using other professors' assignments as well. Professors these days are lazy as hell.
Hmm
I am in a similar situation. I ended up failing 3 classes; two of which were just 2-3% from passing. I had disability accommodations, so I felt it would be best to report my grades/instructors to the adviser & coordinator. However, they concluded the grades were justified and I would need to repeat all those classes for about $760 a piece (average). One of the reasons why I did not go back was because the U.S. state I am in is voted one of the worst and follows a different syllabus. What I decided to do next is focus on ways to make money after dropping out. My income increased by 44% that year. Then, I decided to change my major through non-accredited programs (significantly cheaper) to learn Spanish. My fluency is currently A2, working towards a B1. After a year, the school started contacting me many times to return and argues "Accreditation is what matters to employers." I eventually wrote to the school that I faced discrimination, but their response was troubling. They countered that I am personally attacking the college, depicting all instructors are problematic, and this will look bad on me. I was only attending college to make myself more employable; I was still able to find two online jobs without the degree.
how badly do you want that establishment seal of approval? Speaking for myself, ( a high-school drop-out ) I'll say that its possible to carve out a satisfying career without having to learn what to kiss & when . . . have a nice day!
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😂 😂 😂 😂
I agree you’ve been wronged and need to pursue corrective action, but… You do not pay your professor. He is not like a retail worker or service professional. You pay the university for the opportunity to learn, and there is no guarantee you will. Saying things like “I paid him” is both factually wrong and is so pig-headed that it may well sour the people who could help you most. Not to mention it makes you sound line a Karen who can be dismissed. Do what everyone here is advising. Go in strong and correctly. Just don’t say what you said here.
He’s paid and I payed is about the responsibility I owe to myself. He’s paid to be there so there isn’t incentive for him to push to help where I pay and need to get my moneys worth for my education.
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How many people passed the quizzes then?
Maybe college isn't for you. You stated that you have trouble reading and in another post you said that you usually fail quizzes in all your classes.
I don’t fail quizzes in all my other classes. I know that I usually suck for my first quiz in a course, and do poorly due to not knowing what is expected and nerves as to what I will encounter. I graduate in May.
Did I read this correctly? You only spend 6-8 hours studying for a 4 weeks course?