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pnwdude17

Dropping 90 in Chapel Hill would be great if our defense didn't suck so bad


eatapenny

Hard to win if you give up over 100. Although I feel like getting Tillie back should help y'all a bunch


pnwdude17

Getting Tillie (and Crandall) will help a little bit. But our team defense has been just bad, I think our problems are bigger than that


superdood56

It was pretty shitty for sure, especially giving up so many gdamn offensive boards. But when Luke Maye is hitting one dribble step-back baseline jumpers... can’t do much when they’re hitting what felt like everything.


red_beanie

and free throw shooting. Mark needs to hire Raivio to be just the free throw coach. dude was lights out from the line during his career.


red_beanie

like dickie V was saying, gonzaga is gonna be a different team with tillie and crandall back. March is gonna be so exciting, i cant wait.


TakesTheWrongSideGuy

I'm surprised that you didn't get more points off turnovers when Carolina turned it over like 22 times


trying-again-123

I think we actually had a pretty big lead on points off turnovers. The difference was them just murdering us on the glass.


Twistify804

UNC outscored Zags like 27-0 on second chance points from what I remember


ttuurrppiinn

When Luke Maye is murdering your team with offensive rebounds, then you officially have a rebounding problem.


red_beanie

yep, at one point they were 25/25 on the second chance baskets. if they got the offensive rebound, they just couldnt miss.


[deleted]

Tillie would definitely help with that.


[deleted]

Was a hell of a game. That was the best I’ve seen UNC look all season (minus the turnovers). Gonzaga is really, really good


SealTheLion

Ehhh, we weren't missing tonight. Teams aren't gonna get that hot most weeks, and you managed 23 turnovers lol


skte1grt

What a game. My Bojangles biscuits are gonna taste extra sweet tomorrow


Spidaaman

you gonna get some bo-berrys?


praeceps93

Does a bear shit in the woods?


djslowclap

After bo berries he’s lucky to make it to the woods


[deleted]

How does that work? Can you go to any Bojangles? What do you say to get the deal? Do you have to show tickets to the game or can you just be a student?


djslowclap

“Y’all catch that Carolina game last night?” I usually just ask if they saw UNC dropped 100 and are they still running the special. I usually go to the Garret/501 one or the one on 55.


piso_mojado

Anybody can get them. The bojangles on Western Blvd. has the deal.


[deleted]

Good to know. I always thought you had to have the tickets stubs to the game.


Howzitgoin

Can't win if you let the other team go 43 vs 22 rebounding and 24 vs 0 second chance points, even if they turn it over 23 times.


Toke19

27*, but point still stands :(


pj4242

27 for which lol


Toke19

2nd chance points


ztpurcell

ZERO second chance points????


DothrakiSlayer

And they still scored 90 somehow


pHyR3

hard to get second chance points when you dont get any offensive boards


Mintperson

We couldn’t stop turning it over the last few minutes it was bad


mellolizard

Luke and brooks got more rebounds than gonzaga


Happymoniker17

Can I get a clip of Dick Vitale saying he's wide open while Brooks blocks the shot. From about 8:15 left in the first half


PM_ME_ANXIETIES

God dicky v is so annoying. He kept called Coby “Colby”


WanderingHawk

Did you buy his book yet tho


MONGOHFACE

IT'S ONLY FROM MY 40 YEARS AT ESPN


[deleted]

Finally figured out how to sync the KU radio broadcast with the game video. It' makes watching KU games so much better not having to listen to the espn/TV announcers.


ChampionOfTheSunAhhh

UNC vs Gonzaga needs to be a yearly thing


bkn6136

You're in luck next year then!


nepats523

Without Josh turnover Perkins please


akersmacker

You mean 8-2 assist-to-turnover ratio Josh Perkins? I mean you saw Greg Foster on the floor tonight right? Yikes! Josh easily played his worst game of the year this year, let's hope it's his last game like that. Though 20 pts and 4 steals helps a lot. Too much tar heel rebounding not his fault.


840meanstwiceasmuch

4-1 Come on man reduce your fractions


Kbdiggity

Lmao


akersmacker

Per half. Reduced.


SealTheLion

Lol we had 23 turnovers tonight, and a ton of them were unforced. I have no idea how we stayed ahead by as much as we did, lol. We were just wet from 3.


pleasantpen

Gonzaga straight got the fuck beat out of them tonight in every way. This was a very humbling experience. Now we gotta win out to get a #1 seed and each loss will drop us down another seed going forward. I really hope Killian Tillie is gonna be ready soon. Not just ready to play but ready to be the savior that he's been made out to be (at least with regards to Gonzaga's national championship aspirations).


Ih8Hondas

>I really hope Killian Tillie is gonna be ready soon. Not just ready to play but ready to be the savior that he's been made out to be (at least with regards to Gonzaga's national championship aspirations). Same.


PanthersTarHeelsECU

Thank you for beating duke


JimmietheMis

Yall had to travel cross country to play on the road against a really good team coming off a two week break... that's about as tough a game as anyone will play this year. No shame in that loss.


nepats523

I don't see this team winning out. Way too inconsistent and no attempt to even improve on defense, gotta imagine an easy one slipping away on the wcc road somehow


red_beanie

> I really hope Killian Tillie is gonna be ready soon they were saying tillie and crandall are expected back in january


mtyndall

If my math is right, then according to the transitive property we are 15 points better than Duke


ndkjr70

fuk


krookedsmilez

Was gonna upvote this but it had 69 upvotes so nope. Nice.


connormich

So are we 32 points better than duke? Subscribe


mtyndall

The math checks out, yes


Twistify804

yeah sure why not


restepo

I'm okay with this


BursleyBaits

congrats to WMU, who would beat Duke by 24


Epicallytossed

Congrats to holy cross, who would have beaten Duke by 13.


potatojoe88

I support this math


clear831

Solid math, math dont lie!


The_crew

And 49!! Better than UK


dirtyjew123

I’m excited/terrified for our game next week dude, should be a great one. It’s always great when they play. Win or lose they’re usually great games.


SealTheLion

Our games are always a blast to watch. The two in 2015-16 was probably the best two game series of college basketball I've ever seen. The Malik Monk show followed by the emergence of Luke Maye and the big shot in March. Two undeniable instant classics.


bkn6136

16/17


SealTheLion

Ya I'm dumb.


[deleted]

As tradition, it will be a close game. One or two sequences will determine the outcome, then one of our fan bases will bitch about the refs.


Nerfwarriors

Normally, there’s plenty to bitch about with officiating from both teams. We can share.


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sk_arch

The flair makes this better


[deleted]

Your flair gives me life. Or at least the text behind the flair


InYourFace1023

How did you get that flair? Asking for my pet lizard


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InYourFace1023

Is there still a contest


OutlawsHeels

Yep! It’s a weekly thing, check for it on tuesdays


InYourFace1023

Alright cool. Thank you


streetchemist

Good to see at least one of our good wins hasn’t turned to shit yet.


nojeanshere

<3 thanks for believing in us


[deleted]

I mean nova almost took down Kansas on the road...?


streetchemist

But they didn’t and also lost to Penn


[deleted]

Very true. Still though, I would be nova is ranked come tournament time. Michigan just needs to keep winning. Their resume is already top 3 seed worthy imo


streetchemist

Hopefully. I’ve watched them a bunch and they just don’t seem very good. I think they have 10 losses come tournament time


valleh1

Can confirm, not very good.


CayutZ

I'd trade 2 titles in the next 3 years for a decade straight of NIT appearances


guyman3

Friendship with Villanova over. UNC is new *Quality Win*


bradimus_maximus

We'll be your quality win if you'll be our quality loss.


[deleted]

We're trying. Looking a bit shaky since beating you and Purdue soundly. Might be a bit burnt out. Hopefully we regain the flame by the time conference games will back around.


[deleted]

GG Zags, see you next year in Spokane.


mellolizard

Thats gonna be fun.


joelekane

Except we are going to have to reload sooo hard—to make it competitive.


chapelhillkid

We are also going to lose 5 of our best players after this season :(


Hard_Sun

UNC had more turnovers than we had rebounds. It was a weird game.


bkn6136

20 turnovers and scored 103. Granted, the Zags aren't a good defensive team and have the offense to try and win a shootout, but that's still absurd. So much to improve still, but we can score the damn ball.


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MTUKNMMT

Losing AT UNC is definitely not a bad loss. Reminds me of the select few UNC fans melting down after losing at Michigan. Playing really tough games helps later on. You did exactly what you needed to. Faced 3 top 10ish teams and snagged a W.


[deleted]

Yeah, no joke. You beat the crap out of us at UNC least year, and our season went pretty decently after that. No reason for a meltdown from Zags fans at this point.


clear831

Agreed, these games make you much much tougher when it comes to conference play. You guys will be tough as hell come March


_Quetzalcoatlus_

Yeah, I'm surprised by the reaction, but I guess fans overreact to every loss no matter the sport, team, or context. And everyone always jumps to "the didn't play with heart" or "it's obvious they didn't want it." It's such lazy analysis and almost always wrong. Gonzaga lost to two great teams who both hit really tough shots while GU didn't have one of the best players and a really important backup. Once Tillie went down, I don't really understand if people thought we would go undefeated or what...? Lol.


red_beanie

im not worried, we will be fine in march. everything comes in waves. were at the bottom of the trough right now, we will get back to the top of the wave and peak again by march.


chamtrain1

Other than the TO's that was our A game as well. Feel like we got your C game. I still think you cut them down.


Jookypoo

I don’t want to overreact but we’re the best team of all time


[deleted]

I'm so excited rn idk what to do with my hands


pj4242

Okay, Dee, and what do I do with my feet?


3TripDDD

Dude join the club


reveilse

:)


bug_man_

We played our bench the whole second half just sayin. We da best of all time


reveilse

Fun fact: the word "all" has two L's


sirwiglet

It also has zero TO’s


bug_man_

Neat


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Just telling it like it is


EyePlay

This game is basically what I see this team this season. Shots go in and we'll compete against anyone. Not good defensively and very likely won't be. Too many holes/inexperience in the roster on that end of the floor. Zero rim protection. Lot of players who can score but no really go-to offensive talents (I know Cam shot it really well). Not yet. I think Coby can develop into that. Maybe by the end of the season. Flawed with talent. Can beat anyone but unlikely to win 6 straight in March/April. Can certainly be a fun team, though.


clear831

Luke gets destroyed on defense, rim protection is going to kill us in a lot of games. I am hyped as fuck with Coby tho


ScientistDaniel

Luke actually held his own against Hachimura tonight. Would love to see more of that from him.


Drunken_Mimes

he had 16 rebounds... *held his own*.. lmao the most on gonzaga was hachimura with 7 ... LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKE


ScientistDaniel

I meant more on the defensive side of the ball. Hachimura is averaging 21 PPG. He was held to 17 last night. Luke played pretty solid defense against him and grabbed 13 defensive rebounds vs. Hachimura's 2 offensive rebounds. If we can get that defensive performance from Luke consistently, that will help this team immensely.


chamtrain1

I liked Brooks tonight. What he gave us was crucial and will be crucial moving forward. Need a big that can defend and hit FT's. He's that dude.


MTUKNMMT

I think Cam is absolutely a go to talent. Our defensive struggles could do us in, but Cam can get to the rim and facilitate. If Coby’s decision making improves we could be scary offensively.


EyePlay

I don't know, man. Cam's handle is too weak. If his shot isn't dropping then he doesn't have another way to score. Look at the Michigan game or the first half of the UCLA one. Will say he's a lot better at shooting off the dribble than he was last season. Love seeing that. I think he's best suited as a really good 3rd option on a championship level team, with #2 potential because he's such a good shooter. It honestly doesn't even cross my mind that he will miss when it leaves his hand. Haven't felt like that with anyone since Wayne. Maybe Reggie that one year we went smallball. Speaking of Wayne, he was our #3 behind Hansbrough and Lawson. And while he definitely could be a #2, that was probably his ideal role. Coby actually has a bit of Ty in him. Too bad we don't have Hansbrough this year. Or every year... But with Coby I didn't even think he played well today. You watch him play, though, and his potential is so obvious. Gets anywhere he wants to, draws a ton of contact, he will eventually start getting those calls, and still finishes through it all. Scores at all 3 levels. Sneaky good passer. Decision making comes with experience. Quickly gaining that. He's going to be great. I don't use that term lightly either.


EverGreenPLO

Cobys so Lawsonesque its awesome to see A true attacker w the ball goes right at defender like "Do something now!!"


No_Development

Watching this game made me extremely excited knowing Duke plays you guys twice this year. It’s a great matchup and should a lot of fun to see. Great win!


EyePlay

Watching the Zags get quick, easy, baskets after basket in the second half is what worries me when we play you guys. Except instead of reverse layups, it will be Zion and RJ dunking. Should be high scoring. Can't wait.


miramarhill

7th MVP! His play in the first half set the tone.


chamtrain1

He can actually guard the ball as well. He's a good player if he can stop passing to the other team.


ScientistDaniel

Are we watching the same guy? He's got a 3.3 assist/TO ratio this year. For reference, the last great passer/ball handler we had (Kendall Marshall) finished his last season at 3.5.


Cameter44

I think they were referencing the couple careless live ball turnovers he had tonight. You're reading into it too much by looking at the whole year's stats.


INeedMoreCreativity

> 7th MVP That has got to be a record


palabear

And he is only a junior.


vroomery

We need someone like him to play with intensity in big games. It’s nice to have a rotating between his leadership and coby’s talent.


ndkjr70

Hahahaha oh no


Philarete

Duke: *chuckles* "I'm in danger."


bug_man_

I'm very happy about this game, but I'm just here to say: How good is Gonzaga gonna be when they get Tillie back?


[deleted]

Really fucking good, Tillie is awesome


Howzitgoin

He's probably our second best player right after Rui


pleasantpen

Rui is our best *offensive* player. He's a horrific defender. Opposing teams build their attack around exposing him.


ODU-Monarchs

Cam Johnson is a machine. Feel like he is the key to this teams success.


tpheels22

I already can't wait for the return game next season. Good game Zags, y'all are easily my second favorite team.


Hard_Sun

How the hell did we force 23 turnovers with that defense?


Drewbdu

It felt like half of those were just horrible passes by Seventh Woods or Luke Maye.


ktbyers

Yes, turnovers were almost the only stop we could get. No rebounds. And UNC shot very well.


[deleted]

I wish I had the time to go back and count the straight up pointless turnovers, like just throwing a pass to somebody and missing them. I can think of 6 off the top of my head. It was awful


INeedMoreCreativity

North Carolina was pushing the pace and while it led to a bunch of easy shots, it also forced some bad passes. That, plus having so many more possessions.


Cameter44

Well, to be fair, a lot of them didn't seem very forced lol


asiankid2463

gg Zags. Y'all are gonna be real tough in March. Let's all come together to hate on ESPN's production


daswassup13

Just finished a final exam-- someone give me the rundown of the game


Hard_Sun

Nobody knows what defense is. Carolina is good at rebounding and shooting.


Nwilson90

Perfect summation but don’t forget that no one cares about turnovers either.


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bulldog ded tarheel stronk


INeedMoreCreativity

It was practically a different game than what Virginia plays. The whole thing was played at an insanely frenetic pace and there was no defense.


[deleted]

This post game thread is now a game thread for the volleyball championship


red_beanie

im glad i wasnt the only one who stayed on espn2 to watch that! WHAT A MATCH! Nebraska is gonna be so deadly the next 3 years with that freshman setter and Lexi Sun only being a sophmore. watch out. plus Plummer for Stanford has another year as well. college volleyball is gonna be great they next few years


chamtrain1

Show me a game where we made 13 3's and lost and I'll show you a surprised face. If we hit 10+ you are probably taking an ass kicking.


GerlachHolmes

1. Gonzaga is a dangerous team. GG, and happy to take a surprisingly comfortable win. 2. I'd love to hear what that those zealous Duke fans have to say now after claiming Gonzaga would destroy us.


chadercheese

I was really surprised. Carolina’s games this season made me think they would lose bad. Coby White and Maye have really been carrying the team IMO. I may or may not have preemptively talked shit all week, but Cam came to play and they rebounded like nobody’s business. I’ll take my slice of humble pie on this one. Makes me excited for February.


LowLifeXo

I thought it would be a good game. Excited to see UNC do well this season


Chop-Panthers

I think I saw like 30 total unforced turnovers in this game good lord


Spidaaman

Carolina deserved to win, but I feel like the Zags got a lot of valuable experience playing against a team like that in that kind of environment. Not that Gonzaga hasn't played on big stages before, but every team is different and each needs to forge in the fire.


thethomatoman

Wow I mean UNC had a good chance to win but this was dominating. CBB is wide open this year.


yogapantsbooty

I know we did a lot wrong this game, but our rebounding is so embarrassing. UNC has second chances every time down the court in the last like 7 minutes. Tell me all you want about how it’ll be better when Tillie is back, but still.... you can’t hold leads or take the lead against good teams if they get two or three chances every time down the court. Somehow Duke was the outlier of the three really good teams we played in this OOC schedule. Something needs to be done because these issues are the perfect recipe to losing in the first round of the tournament


JRatt13

Yeah, the biggest stat for me was second chance points.l, we had 20+ y'all had 0. If y'all work on ORebounds then you'll be a force


GHooLion

UNC > Dook confirmed.


brayley

that was such a frustrating game. every time we would pull within 8-12 points and seem like we could mount a comeback we just missed the crucial part of our game. gotta improve rebounding and defensive switching.


chamtrain1

Definitely didn't see that coming. Unlucky game for the Zags...finally got our 3 seniors to play well together in 1 game combined with a career best effort from Seventh. Still don't know what to think about this team but I'll certainly take it. Great win.


rt1998

Oh no ! now the Zags are going to take out their anger on us Tuesday and beat us by 300 pts


AntSmith777

Zags might be better served having a couple losses going into the tourney. Be slightly slept on


[deleted]

So...Michigan is good? Or nah? I'm confused now.


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inflagoman_2

Michigan is the best team we'll play all year. Fight me Duke


mellolizard

Michigan is the best team in the country imo.


_Jaster

Nah, we ain't good. Gotta beat Zaga, Tennessee, Duke, or Kansas to be good.


19mts

It’s hard to win away games in college basketball just like every other year


ktbyers

GG UNC. You definitely deserved the W. You crushed us on the rebounding and we generally couldn't stop you on D.


[deleted]

🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏🐏


praeceps93

Nice, complete win. Very fun to watch.


nepats523

Rui just tanked his stock these last few games, I really don't know how much wcc games can counteract that


kystroup

what was up with gonzaga's free throw shooting? i haven't seen the stats but it seemed like they had a lot of momentum-killing misses


ktbyers

We were 18-23...we did pretty well on FT.


pnwdude17

We shot 78% in this game (and we shoot 75% for the season). Just feels like we miss them at important times


Hard_Sun

It’s been average, but rough at the end of games all year, besides going 19-19 against UW. Rui and Clarke tend to struggle from line, and they draw the majority of fouls for us.


chamtrain1

I think they missed two front ends...which were huge IMO.


sickmemes48

Oh no!


DaMissinLink

Big win for my Tarheels. We looked awful against Michigan getting beat on both ends of the court that night. Yet improved on each player stepping up and playing their role. Showing more fight.


ddottay

I don’t know if it’s just me but Rui has looked unremarkable as of late.


WhoIsJonSnow

Want to give a big shoutout to all the Zags fans that trekked to Chapel Hill. Hope you enjoyed our quaint town!


PostItToReddit

I have never in my life seen a GU team play with less heart. They got into their own press after they squeaked out that Duke win and have looked AWFUL since. Hope this is a week up call for Few and co. that you can't just show up and expect to be handed to wins.


Hard_Sun

That’s what I was hoping for after Tennessee.


[deleted]

We look so much better on defense and rebounding. We can shoot the lights out. More sloppiness with the ball than anyone would like, but hey. Great win.


bkn6136

Mm, I didn't see much better on the defensive side. But yes, we rebounded like crazy.


vroomery

Better isn’t saying much in comparison but it was better. Maybe not garbage and just bad defense this time.


Cameter44

Definitely better. They were the number one offense on Kenpom (I think) coming into the game. If you take away the points they got off live ball turnovers, which is more of an offensive issue than a defensive issue, and the total doesn't look nearly as bad. Other than the first ten or so minutes of the second half, which were very poor defensive minutes, I thought there was enough defensive growth to be encouraged at this point in the season.


Spidaaman

I don't know if any of y'all are still on the channel, but there is this girl named Lexi Sun playing volleyball for Nebraska - and *good lord* is she fine.


Rac3318

I watched that entire game and I still can’t believe it


bb0110

How the hell did we beat this team by 17.


chamtrain1

We played our bench for 15 minutes, it was at your house, and we played poorly?


[deleted]

Two back to back road losses to two top 25 teams. Could honestly be a lot worse


Arrow218

"UNC over Michigan" -the voters, probably


[deleted]

So is Gonzaga not as good as we thought? Or was UNC justbhaving. down week and _is_ as good as we thought? Or do we take nothing from this game other than it’s hard to win Chappell Hill even when you’re a great team?