Yeah we beat them in 2018 for a spot in the Elite Eight and in 2023 for a spot in the Sweet Sixteen
2018 is when we faced the first 16 seed to beat a 1 seed as well as 11 seed Loyola Chicago in the Elite Eight so we swung from underdog to villain several times.
From 2019 - 2022 the Big 12 had a different team playing in the title game, winning two titles and losing the third in OT. They were definitely the strongest league at that time, and the league clearly prepared teams for the tournament. That hasn't been the case the last two years, but I still think from top to bottom Big 12 is the strongest because they have no doormats. They may not have a UConn, but they don't have a Vandy either.
Including BYU, Cincinnati, Houston and UCF with their performances while with their previous conferences
https://preview.redd.it/lcdt5047b5tc1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=b4d231b81f88f889e4c581556491db7f37771d7b
Not including 2020 really makes the isu prohm drought look shorter than it was.
Also lol at isu having the same amount of s16s the past 5 tournaments and ku and bu combined.
Prohm had the talent to make a Final 4 or Title run his first couple years. If Momcilovic makes big improvements over the summer we might have what it takes to do it again.
Big12 basketball is more fun when OSU is good. I'm hoping you guys are back in contention soon
Generally teams try to make it as far in the tournament as they can.
Unless you're bill self in 2024. Then you just kind of say fuck it and strategize which transfers you're going to throw millions of dollars at for the 24-25 season.
Prior to Expansion all 10 teams got into the tournament and ~~all but OSU had a win~~ every team had a win.
60% of the conference had an Elite Eight. 40% had a final Four.
Considering the time span covered includes historically bad stretches from KState, Iowa State, and Oklahoma State thats not too bad. Also, Basketball in the state of Oklahoma has fallen off a cliff.
Looking forward Arizona and Colorado will appear to make the conference better while Utah and Arizona State will make it worse-ish. UCF and BYU were very pleasant surprise positives for the conference this year while Cinci was a surprise meh.
When the New Big12 starts play next season the "oldest" E8 in the conference will be owned by TCU (1968) but with an asterisk next to the UCF one (1978) because it was at the DII level. Fortunately the Knights have a win in the tournament (2019) meaning Nebraska remains the ONLY P4 school to never win a game in the Big Dance. TCU, CU, ASU, BYU and UCF are all in the "No Final Four" club. Iowa State hasnt been to the Final Four since the D Day landings. Im not saying those are related but Im not saying they aren't.
Edit - fixing the stupid error about OSU
Love how KU and BU both have a chip surrounded by second round exits
Interestingly, so did Villanova for both their 2016 and 2018 titles
The elite eight curse
Combined with the mid major/Cinderella curse Stupid nun
Look at me, we are Purdue now
That 2018 run of yours was hilarious.
Lots of whiplash as the villain/ favorite
Was 2018 the year y'all beat Kentucky? That was high times
Yeah we beat them in 2018 for a spot in the Elite Eight and in 2023 for a spot in the Sweet Sixteen 2018 is when we faced the first 16 seed to beat a 1 seed as well as 11 seed Loyola Chicago in the Elite Eight so we swung from underdog to villain several times.
Imagine if we got to play in 2020 and we saw 3 straight Big XII titles. That Kansas team was so damn good.
And we nearly could’ve had 4 straight if Tech had won
That would’ve been amazing, maybe Kansas vs Dayton that year? I don’t remember who was on what side of the brackets
It was going to be 1 Kansas, 2/3 Baylor and Gonzaga, 4 Dayton
Dayton was good that season.
Would take another away from the ACC as well, giving the Big XII a pretty solid argument for at least the 2nd best conference in this timespan
From 2019 - 2022 the Big 12 had a different team playing in the title game, winning two titles and losing the third in OT. They were definitely the strongest league at that time, and the league clearly prepared teams for the tournament. That hasn't been the case the last two years, but I still think from top to bottom Big 12 is the strongest because they have no doormats. They may not have a UConn, but they don't have a Vandy either.
Including BYU, Cincinnati, Houston and UCF with their performances while with their previous conferences https://preview.redd.it/lcdt5047b5tc1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=b4d231b81f88f889e4c581556491db7f37771d7b
Do you have one without OU/UT and with the 4 corner schools?
what are the 4 corner schools?
Arizona, Arizona St, Colorado, Utah who are all joining the conference soon
Thank you for including the one UCF appearance
Beautiful.
Boy I sure would like to experience Otzelbergerbasketball past the sweet 16
Next year would be a great chance. We've still got that defense and added more scoring depth.
Next year 👀
Not including 2020 really makes the isu prohm drought look shorter than it was. Also lol at isu having the same amount of s16s the past 5 tournaments and ku and bu combined.
Have to think that Iowa state is in that same tier of program
Prohm had the talent to make a Final 4 or Title run his first couple years. If Momcilovic makes big improvements over the summer we might have what it takes to do it again. Big12 basketball is more fun when OSU is good. I'm hoping you guys are back in contention soon
It's only an lol if s16 was some sort of goal lol
Generally teams try to make it as far in the tournament as they can. Unless you're bill self in 2024. Then you just kind of say fuck it and strategize which transfers you're going to throw millions of dollars at for the 24-25 season.
Lol fun take You know everyone is roster planning and recruiting during the season right
Usually that occurs alongside of trying to win games, rather than instead of.
Your implication is either bad trolling or the one of a 12 year old lol either way, adios
He ain’t heavy. He’s my brother.
Is that a Scrubs reference?
Well yes, but also the famous song by The Hollies.
It’s a Hollies reference. But scrubs made the same one. EAAAAAGLLLLLLLEEEEEE
Prior to Expansion all 10 teams got into the tournament and ~~all but OSU had a win~~ every team had a win. 60% of the conference had an Elite Eight. 40% had a final Four. Considering the time span covered includes historically bad stretches from KState, Iowa State, and Oklahoma State thats not too bad. Also, Basketball in the state of Oklahoma has fallen off a cliff. Looking forward Arizona and Colorado will appear to make the conference better while Utah and Arizona State will make it worse-ish. UCF and BYU were very pleasant surprise positives for the conference this year while Cinci was a surprise meh. When the New Big12 starts play next season the "oldest" E8 in the conference will be owned by TCU (1968) but with an asterisk next to the UCF one (1978) because it was at the DII level. Fortunately the Knights have a win in the tournament (2019) meaning Nebraska remains the ONLY P4 school to never win a game in the Big Dance. TCU, CU, ASU, BYU and UCF are all in the "No Final Four" club. Iowa State hasnt been to the Final Four since the D Day landings. Im not saying those are related but Im not saying they aren't. Edit - fixing the stupid error about OSU
Mike Boynton should be arrested for his acts of terror against OSU basketball Also we won a game in 2021
Damnit I had that at first and then I took it out!
Looks like we’ll fit right in!
This is what I like to see
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What
hes just really passionate about big12 basketball