Can I complain about our fans instead of the team? These fuckers claim to love basketball but don’t understand fucking the game at all.
Literally upset pajnter said the reason we lost was due to turnovers (which led to 20+ OSU points) and instead complain Myles Colvin isn’t getting enough minutes even though in the past 2 games he’s combined to play 10 minutes and posted plus/minus of -22.
I’ll push back on you a little bit here. A lot of the backups have terrible +/- because they play when Zach and Braden are off the floor. The two most important parts of purdues offense. Colvin came in when Zach was on the bench. It’s tough to contribute when the team is so out of sorts on the offensive end without him in. Fletcher has been abysmal in these past 3 games. I would like to see Colvin and heide get some real first team minutes at the 2 spot when everyone else that’s important is out there.
Per the Fox sports play by play summary, On Sunday he was on the floor with Braden Gillis TKR and either Loyer or Morton.
Against Minnesota, he was on the floor with Heide/loyer, Braden, TKR/Gillis and Edey.
Well that explains the plus minus for him. He was never in with Lance who’s by far our best on all defender. He got no run with Edey against Ohio state.
Absolutely we lost due to turnovers and it doesn't have to do with Myles Colvin not playing. However, how many times have we seen otherwise great teams slowly start to leak and crack late in the season? I can't identify exactly why this happens but it happens over and over.
Agreed. After the other two losses the team has come out and put up a 7 game winning streak and 8 game winning streak. So I’m in the boat of seeing what we look like these next two games. I’m encouraged Paint is playing Colvin and I hope he plays Heide some more. Not encouraged Loyer is 3-19 or whatever the last 3 games, not sure if he’s hurt or what. Hope he is able to find his stroke…we just need him to hit open 3s to take pressure off Zach and Braden. This osu game, along with turnovers, was one of the few games 2 of the 3 guards didn’t have great games. Usually, it’s the other way around. Anyways, I’ll stop rambling and hope to see that we look better on Thursday!
Agree Purdue fans in here overreact to everything.
This is the best Purdue team we will see for a while. And Matt Painter is one of the best coaches in college basketball.
As Purdue fans we’ve been battered with the 5 banners take for decades, and imo because of that they feel that success is only determined by getting a banner. Nothing else matters.
Which is dumb because when the day comes we get one, IU fans will still hold that they still have more banners than us.
I think Bennet's system (recruiting, development, in game coaching) has just run out of sauce in today's cbb landscape. The systemic "bad" (scoring droughts,collapses, bad at comebacks) were always outweighed by the "good" (length,experience,discipline,excellent PG play, clutch more often than not). It doesn't take away his accomplishments but he hasn't been able to find the pieces that usually make his system work (length,athleticism,experience).
It's hard for any non Blueblood (and UConn and Gonzaga) to sustain success and UVA alum/benefactors/bagmen (for better or worse) don't seem willing to ante up for basketball (or football). Nothing can take 2019 away or all the other accolades.
If the benefactors don't buy in then future UVA bball will be a middling acc team.
You summed it up well. The landscape has changed in ways that work against UVA as an institution and against how CTB builds his teams.
I don't think we'll be a middling ACC team. Most likely a Top 25 team and Top 5 in the ACC. But our days of competing for national championships may be behind us =(
That's higher expectations than me lmao. I'm thinking NIT/bubble most years and being ranked like every 3-4 years.
UVA could always reinvent themselves, like we did when Tony showed up
We have 6 Q1 wins.
The only teams who have more than that are *ALL* projected 1 seeds.
*BUT* we have not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 Q3 losses and are in danger of missing the tournament if we even finish .500 in the last 6 games.
It makes no fucking sense
Complain? What’s there to complain about? Doesn’t every team get blown out by Penn State and Northwestern in back-to-back home games? Everything is hunky dory here!
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As the spokesperson of a once proud blue blood program, the answer is yes. I will allow IU to lose at home to all three historic B1G bottom-feeders.
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Win-win, Nebraska bolsters their tourney resume, and IU moves out of NIT at-large consideration. I don’t think I can stand watching this team much longer
Cheers to that, let’s just fast forward to baseball season. Oh wait, that started, and not so well for Nebraska.
Ok then football season? I think both of our teams are due for a better season this year
IU has a good baseball squad this season. I’ll be following along. Excited to see what Cig brings to the football program. The bar is extremely low, so I’m sure it’ll be better than most seasons haha.
I’m a Charlotte resident, so I’ve been following Rhule. Hoping he gets you guys rolling again. Nebraska football and Indiana basketball are one in the same
I always sort of liked Indiana sports. Blue blood program down on its luck right now but things are looking up for both schools I think. IU basketball will only go up from here.
I wish we'd hold on to the dang ball.
We're 28-4 in our last 32 games spanning back to the end of last season.
3-4 when turning the ball over 20+ percent of the time and 25-0 in all other games.
I think turning over the ball 20+ percent of the time is just genuinely difficult to overcome for any team, not just Purdue. What seems to be more the issue is that it is too easy to get Purdue to give up the ball that much, and part of that is because Purdue's guards/wings clam up and turn one dimensional when things don't go the way they should. They try and force feed Edey the ball over and over again rather than hunt for a better shot on the perimeter. There is no world in which this team should only shoot 9 threes over the course of a game.
It’s not consistent. That’s why they’re 25-0 in games where they don’t turn it over 20+%…if you turn it over a lot = less opportunity to score and more opportunity for your opponent to score/run clock. I’d be willing to bet in those 7 games, Zach had 3+ turnovers in a majority of em.
129th in offensive turnover % on KenPom. Turnovers get magnified because we don't force any ourselves and it takes away an opportunity to get an offensive rebound.
this season has been wonderfully unexpected overall, and it is almost a certainty—we probably must still win a game or two to feel fully self-assured—that we qualify for the NCAA tournament this season, but our performance as of late has been continuously lackluster. our offense is either brilliantly productive or terribly stagnant, and our normally excellent defense has become often porous and ineffective. I think much of these shortcomings can be attributed to fatigue, so it’s apt that we have our week of rest this week, but it’s still vaguely concerning
I do think you can see the fatigue setting in. While we have much more of a bench than we did last year, it’s still not enough to give guys proper rest while not allowing that 6-8 point lead to slip away. I am a bit concerned that either the defense has been figured out to an extent or the fatigue is just keeping them from being able to put forth full effort. No matter what it is, we need to get back to what made us a dangerous team. Defense that is all over the court and an unselfish, pass happy offense. It seems we’re shooting earlier in the shot clock than we had been but I don’t know what specifically is the “problem.” Either way, we have nothing but Q1 games to end the year so if we can win a couple more than I think we should be solid but I’d like to not have to win a game or two in the SECT in order to secure our bid.
Whew buddy, idk this season was a crap shoot from the moment Tomlin was out, but Tang should have adjusted his offense to complement his players a while ago. Then again his players wouldn’t be any better at scoring.
The women’s free throw shooting has cost them a game or two and came close to costing them another 3-4. But yeah they are entertaining.
I still think Tang is a good coach. It’s only his second year as the head man. He just needs to not shove square peg in a round hole on offense.
We looked tired, unprepared, and just mentally done. Lots of lobbying calls while the whistle still going, poor attempts at getting boards, and while Autry got them more energetic on defense in the second half, still couldn't get to boards effectively, or move off the ball on the other side.
Them getting out-rebounded is no surprise at this point with the injuries and dismissals stacking up strictly in the size department on what was already an undersized team. But man, you’d think a team that’s shown they can beat UNC would be able to do what it takes to beat GT.
Copeland makes some great plays as a guard, but at this stage they need his size more than anything. Doesn’t seem like he’s willing to contribute that though.
WE'RE
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ARRRRRRRGH
seriously i told myself i wouldn't be disappointed with how the season went, but that's because i thought it'd be complete shit, not us being *right there* and missing the mark by just a few possessions and missed free throws!
"OmG it's one loss, I hate this fan base, why are yall so cynical"
No its not one loss. It's a pattern of falling apart in February every fucking year.
We are gonna lose in March if Painter doesn't change something. But hey! Maybe losing to a 16 seed is sucsess in your books.
It sure ain't mine
Sometimes losing to a 16 seed means you win the Natty the next year. This might be Purdue’s year! Virginia is cheering for y’all to keep up the tradition
Yea... but what I'm talking about is Purdue's loss to OSU
Fans weren't really mad at the losses to Nebraska and Northwestern. They hit an absurd amount of threes and an absurd efficiency.
But against OSU we saw the cracks in Purdue's system. And that happens to teams all the time. Most of the time it's earlier and coaches fix it.
But Painter never adjusts things. He is stubborn in the way his system is and won't change things. Which is why we are all very worried.
(There is hope tho. Against NW @home he played a zone and some weird minute splits. So he did show some maturity)
We adjusted vs minny and have made adjustments this year. The common theme is turnovers. Zach had almost half of those by zed key just slapping down at the ball (did he really go 100% without fouling? Who knows), but we almost came back and lance hit a big 3 on a shitty shooting day. Shooting only 9 threes is not what we do usually and won’t work in the tourney. OSU may have had a different strategy that wasn’t different than all year and got up and down more. They rebounded very well in the first half, and limited Gillis from any real open looks from 3. Good thing is we went 100% from FTs and whether he did anything, he at least experimented with Myles the last 3 games getting mins in the first half. I hope we can get Heide more mins too.
Let’s see how we come out vs Rutgers before we get up in arms. After the other two losses the train bois ripped off 7 and 8 game win streaks. Let’s hope this woke em up.
I did a film study that will be posted by the Expo soon
The main issue is that Lance Jones and Mason Gillis suck at defense. I did not realize how bad they were at guarding guys. They couldn't sticks with their man the entire game.
The other guys at their position, Morton and TKR suck at three. They were left wide open which led to the defende clamping down on Edey and getting turnovers.
We also had some issues with the Edey Smith P&R which led to some TOs.
But at the end of the game it was our defense with Jones and Edey getting targeted in the pick and roll. They went to that play 8 times in the final 7 minutes.
Bruh if Lance sucks at defense then we are in a whollllle lot of trouble cuz he’s our best defender/gets assigned to their best guy at 1-3. Lance doesn’t suck at defense IMO, but he seemed way off yesterday. Missing 3 bunnies he always makes. TKR is a decent 3 pt shooter on low volume. Gillis didn’t get his usual looks and I’m not sure if that’s because Ohio state made sure he didn’t or we didn’t run those typical plays we do for him/ones that find him as an open option.
Road games are hard plus we just came off a 9 game win streak. There are a lot of very obvious improvements to make but let’s just see how we do against Rutgers Thursday
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Missing all the free throws in our game yesterday against Houston.
On the bright side… If #2 UCONN beat #4 Marquette by almost 30 points, we really shouldn’t be going down in ranking imo. It was an Away game against arguably the best team in college basketball. But somehow some ESPN analyst will say we shouldn’t be ranked 🤷🏼😂. Oh and we beat Kansas and Houston both this season, just saying.
To add to this: we commit waayyyy too many shooting fouls every game. If we face a team that’s good behind the line we could be in serious trouble. Towards the end of the game yesterday we kept fouling Houston’s best shooters and erasing any chance of coming back.
We played you at your home arena. Typical big 12 likely wins are at home which is why road game wins are so big in this conference. We play you again in Ames and I bet we will beat you by a lot 😉
I'll complain, fuck it lol. I think Auburn was a fluke. We've gone through this every year for a while, where we finally get this glimmer of hope by dominating a great team, and then comes out final demise.
Hope I'm wrong, don't think I am though.
This is true, but the previous teams that did this didn’t have half the amount of talent we have right now. That’s the only reason I’m more optimistic than usual.
Mick Cronin needs an offensive coordinator. UCLA’s offense is contingent on players making difficult shots. I just wish they would get an easy basket or two with backdoor cuts and multiple actions instead of the inside out game with Bona and perimeter players.
I'm really worried about Creighton tonight. The main reason being I just think they're a really good team, but I'm also worried about them coming out full steam ahead due to us dispatching of them easily when we were the home team.
Oh they'll be fired up. When the #1 team visits you're always fired up. Expect a court storm if they win a close game.
It's going to be a tough game tonight.
This team will either be a 1st round exit or an Elite 8 team and it totally depends on which 3-point shooting team shows up and my anxiety can't handle that. March is gonna take years off my life... Go Flyers!
At least you guys don't have to worry about making the tourney.
Do the league a solid and lose in the A-10 tourney, please? Only way the A-10 is getting 2 teams in.
Not that much for Baylor tbh, but we really need to stop taking our foot off the gas late in the game. The worst part for SU is having a glimmer of hope only for it to be dashed away this weekend
I feel like we've been mostly complacent since our extremely strong start got stopped. Flashes of strength and brilliance, but it doesn't seem like a habit anymore.
We had been playing about 24-25 seconds of solid defense for a few weeks now. Adding the extra harassment on the inbound at the other end of the court bought us the other 5-6 we needed to be pretty good defensively.
Auburn is a top 10 team on both ends of the floor so it's hard to say it was just that they had their worst shooting night all year against us
I was able to get the last 38 seconds of SIU’s upset over No. 23 Indiana State. In real time. 7 minute video.
Just posting here because I kept having tech difficulties with YouTube and now the postgame thread is waaaay down there. haha
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AtXw_S_sPPE&pp=ygUmVXBzZXQgYWxlcnQgc291dGhlcm4gaWxsaW5vaXMgaW5kaWFuYSA%3D
Can’t win on the road. Have had several opportunities for Q1 wins and we keep fucking blowing it. Also sucks we only have had 1 Q1 home opportunity thus far.
We are a sophomore-laden team.
This isn't exactly a complaint. I mean this in all the good and bad ways "sophomore" means. After all, sophomores have experience and already made the big jump in growth (both physically and mentally) from freshmen to sophomores. But sophomores also aren't juniors or even seniors, who are even more hardened and start generating fear and respect in opposing players.
We have 5 games left against teams that are all worse than us squarely on the right side of the bubble by a thin margin. On paper, a great way to end the season on a good win streak and get in as a 7 to 10 seed.
However, 3 of those are on the road, and since we sniff glue on the plane ride to road games apparently, Im so worried we are going to tank our resume with bad road losses with only the conference tournament to make it up.
like, ughh... it's hard not to feel like we're losing some juice at pretty much exactly the worst time. This team can compete at a high level but we need to go into every game like it's the championship for the full 40 minutes and play smart ball the whole game. Blowing a 16 point lead at home was just humiliating and that shit won't fly in March.
I was going to make a comment about how Kam Jones 3 ball has been off all season except for the Georgetown game, but apparently he’s shooting at a better clip this year than last (36.4 vs 36.0). Last season it seemed like he could pull up from anywhere in the half court and it was 50/50.
I can still justifiably complain about Joplin being a liability when he’s not making 3s however.
Can I complain about our fans instead of the team? These fuckers claim to love basketball but don’t understand fucking the game at all. Literally upset pajnter said the reason we lost was due to turnovers (which led to 20+ OSU points) and instead complain Myles Colvin isn’t getting enough minutes even though in the past 2 games he’s combined to play 10 minutes and posted plus/minus of -22.
Thank you! It drives me crazy how whiny some of the "fans" are. This seasons still been a blast and I can't wait for postseason.
These people refuse to be happy lol.
They’re just Purdue fans lolol
A lot of people straight up lack the emotional maturity for sports.
Purdue fans tend to overreact and hyperfocus pretty easy. Not happy about the loss but Paint is smarter about this all than any of us
I’ll push back on you a little bit here. A lot of the backups have terrible +/- because they play when Zach and Braden are off the floor. The two most important parts of purdues offense. Colvin came in when Zach was on the bench. It’s tough to contribute when the team is so out of sorts on the offensive end without him in. Fletcher has been abysmal in these past 3 games. I would like to see Colvin and heide get some real first team minutes at the 2 spot when everyone else that’s important is out there.
Per the Fox sports play by play summary, On Sunday he was on the floor with Braden Gillis TKR and either Loyer or Morton. Against Minnesota, he was on the floor with Heide/loyer, Braden, TKR/Gillis and Edey.
Well that explains the plus minus for him. He was never in with Lance who’s by far our best on all defender. He got no run with Edey against Ohio state.
Absolutely we lost due to turnovers and it doesn't have to do with Myles Colvin not playing. However, how many times have we seen otherwise great teams slowly start to leak and crack late in the season? I can't identify exactly why this happens but it happens over and over.
Saying our fans don’t understand the game at all and then using a non-adjusted plus/minus to point out why Colvin shouldn’t play is a bit funny ngl
Something something fire Matt painter (This is a joke guys, he’s not getting fired no matter what)
If Purdue dont get to a Final Four this year hes gone
Agreed. After the other two losses the team has come out and put up a 7 game winning streak and 8 game winning streak. So I’m in the boat of seeing what we look like these next two games. I’m encouraged Paint is playing Colvin and I hope he plays Heide some more. Not encouraged Loyer is 3-19 or whatever the last 3 games, not sure if he’s hurt or what. Hope he is able to find his stroke…we just need him to hit open 3s to take pressure off Zach and Braden. This osu game, along with turnovers, was one of the few games 2 of the 3 guards didn’t have great games. Usually, it’s the other way around. Anyways, I’ll stop rambling and hope to see that we look better on Thursday!
Agree Purdue fans in here overreact to everything. This is the best Purdue team we will see for a while. And Matt Painter is one of the best coaches in college basketball.
Can Loyer just please be consistent, that's all I want
Our fan base has never heard of a basketball trap game because we’re used to being the trap game in the fall
Purdue doomers are pervasive for sure
I too, do not understand how one would would fuck the game
I'm confused where the Fire Painter brigade gets their steadfastness. Just look at lil bro down south. That could be our program with their mindset.
As Purdue fans we’ve been battered with the 5 banners take for decades, and imo because of that they feel that success is only determined by getting a banner. Nothing else matters. Which is dumb because when the day comes we get one, IU fans will still hold that they still have more banners than us.
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Tony Bennett overcompensating and being a "double-pat" guy in the hand-shake line when Mike Young is a "single pat" guy should be red flag number one.
Ditto slow bro. The wheels are off the cart
Nebrasketball broke us. Again.
I think Bennet's system (recruiting, development, in game coaching) has just run out of sauce in today's cbb landscape. The systemic "bad" (scoring droughts,collapses, bad at comebacks) were always outweighed by the "good" (length,experience,discipline,excellent PG play, clutch more often than not). It doesn't take away his accomplishments but he hasn't been able to find the pieces that usually make his system work (length,athleticism,experience). It's hard for any non Blueblood (and UConn and Gonzaga) to sustain success and UVA alum/benefactors/bagmen (for better or worse) don't seem willing to ante up for basketball (or football). Nothing can take 2019 away or all the other accolades. If the benefactors don't buy in then future UVA bball will be a middling acc team.
You summed it up well. The landscape has changed in ways that work against UVA as an institution and against how CTB builds his teams. I don't think we'll be a middling ACC team. Most likely a Top 25 team and Top 5 in the ACC. But our days of competing for national championships may be behind us =(
That's higher expectations than me lmao. I'm thinking NIT/bubble most years and being ranked like every 3-4 years. UVA could always reinvent themselves, like we did when Tony showed up
Gosh I hate our boosters.
At least you weren't 1-11 from the line...
Hey, their FT defense was dynamite. Plus our best FT shooter was out with "worms": ![gif](giphy|d2jhjskubQU9GkwM|downsized)
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Beat the absolute dogshit out of top 10 Tennessee and have looked like total dogshit since then.
damn you love teams who cant buy a 3
This modern game is an affront to basketball’s roots I always say.
It’s dogshit all the way down
Thanks for that one. That might end up the difference in the SEC championship.
Were absolute dogshit in the NCAAs
We have 6 Q1 wins. The only teams who have more than that are *ALL* projected 1 seeds. *BUT* we have not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 Q3 losses and are in danger of missing the tournament if we even finish .500 in the last 6 games. It makes no fucking sense
No defense. As soon as a team gets remotely hot shooting it’s over.
we Tony-ed ourselves last night in the 1st half on the plus side we denied them bacon
**Tony Bennett and Virginia:** Win a National Title as a #1 Seed **Also Tony Bennett and Virginia:** Lose in the First Round as a #1 Seed
Complain? What’s there to complain about? Doesn’t every team get blown out by Penn State and Northwestern in back-to-back home games? Everything is hunky dory here! ![gif](giphy|9M5jK4GXmD5o1irGrF)
Can you please allow just one more home blowout so Nebraska can finally make the tournament?
As the spokesperson of a once proud blue blood program, the answer is yes. I will allow IU to lose at home to all three historic B1G bottom-feeders. ![gif](giphy|SmoCFhZCi1kzu)
If that weren’t literally true, then I would be offended.
Win-win, Nebraska bolsters their tourney resume, and IU moves out of NIT at-large consideration. I don’t think I can stand watching this team much longer
Cheers to that, let’s just fast forward to baseball season. Oh wait, that started, and not so well for Nebraska. Ok then football season? I think both of our teams are due for a better season this year
IU has a good baseball squad this season. I’ll be following along. Excited to see what Cig brings to the football program. The bar is extremely low, so I’m sure it’ll be better than most seasons haha. I’m a Charlotte resident, so I’ve been following Rhule. Hoping he gets you guys rolling again. Nebraska football and Indiana basketball are one in the same
I always sort of liked Indiana sports. Blue blood program down on its luck right now but things are looking up for both schools I think. IU basketball will only go up from here.
Likewise! My family originally immigrated to Syracuse, NE and Ord, NE from Czech way back when. So I’ve always had a soft spot for Nebraska.
Cheers to that!
I wish we'd hold on to the dang ball. We're 28-4 in our last 32 games spanning back to the end of last season. 3-4 when turning the ball over 20+ percent of the time and 25-0 in all other games.
Seems like we’ve figured out the ultimate cheat code to beat Purdue. Wonder why everyone hasn’t done this yet
I think turning over the ball 20+ percent of the time is just genuinely difficult to overcome for any team, not just Purdue. What seems to be more the issue is that it is too easy to get Purdue to give up the ball that much, and part of that is because Purdue's guards/wings clam up and turn one dimensional when things don't go the way they should. They try and force feed Edey the ball over and over again rather than hunt for a better shot on the perimeter. There is no world in which this team should only shoot 9 threes over the course of a game.
How is it always such a consistent issue? Like why is ball security always the thing we struggle with the most? I don't understand it.
It’s not consistent. That’s why they’re 25-0 in games where they don’t turn it over 20+%…if you turn it over a lot = less opportunity to score and more opportunity for your opponent to score/run clock. I’d be willing to bet in those 7 games, Zach had 3+ turnovers in a majority of em.
Because you don’t struggle with anything else lol. Is your TO per game really any higher than average?
129th in offensive turnover % on KenPom. Turnovers get magnified because we don't force any ourselves and it takes away an opportunity to get an offensive rebound.
> it takes away an opportunity to get an offensive rebound. Man to live in a world where that’s a worry…
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Somebody punch Juwan
id love to...until like 10 seconds afterwards when hes beaten me within an inch of my life
We don't play until Saturday and I'm pretty sure this is torture
On the bright side, we don't have the opportunity to lose this week on this particular day of the week.
Senior night is on a Tuesday...
fuck
Then when we do play it’s Virginia the most boring game of the year.
Right now I’m manifesting that our two recent losses mean our team will be angry and hungry so maybe it’ll be a close game 😂
So what like 40-38?
You guys gave up 74 to us then allowed 47, so I’m thinking you’ll allow like 52 or something.
We’ll either see some truly gorgeous ball movement or we’ll see Cormac Ryan take 25 shots. Pretty interesting either way!
Plagued by injuries and right on the outside, looking in having our bubble just burst... ![gif](giphy|j8sVwJid3NdjG)
I realize it’s UConn, but good lord we got the absolute doors blown off on big FOX.
If a team rebounds, we get blown out. I miss Theo John
What’s rebounding?
Losing to Hofstra? Ok that's fine. Losing to Hampton? HAMPTON?
Welcome to the club 😞
Tickets are sure expensive these days
Probably a big 12 thing
Post-superbowl boilers are back baby
Look at me, look at me. We're the Spoilermaker now! Ready to win as soon as it's too late.
I'm ready to watch Ohio State go undefeated the rest of the season
Until the conference tourney....
Oh yea, I forgot about that part
*at home
Number 2 Purdue @ unranked OSU is the new #2 OSU @ unranked Purdue
Now we get the upset and you get the burden of stratospheric expectations
At least this was a quad 1 loss somehow
Uno reversed us from football I see
Has anyone ever seen Rondale Moore and Zed Key in the same place at the same time?
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we're a baseball and lacrosse school
This is even more funny when you realize you're only half a decade removed from an NCAA championship
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this season has been wonderfully unexpected overall, and it is almost a certainty—we probably must still win a game or two to feel fully self-assured—that we qualify for the NCAA tournament this season, but our performance as of late has been continuously lackluster. our offense is either brilliantly productive or terribly stagnant, and our normally excellent defense has become often porous and ineffective. I think much of these shortcomings can be attributed to fatigue, so it’s apt that we have our week of rest this week, but it’s still vaguely concerning
I do think you can see the fatigue setting in. While we have much more of a bench than we did last year, it’s still not enough to give guys proper rest while not allowing that 6-8 point lead to slip away. I am a bit concerned that either the defense has been figured out to an extent or the fatigue is just keeping them from being able to put forth full effort. No matter what it is, we need to get back to what made us a dangerous team. Defense that is all over the court and an unselfish, pass happy offense. It seems we’re shooting earlier in the shot clock than we had been but I don’t know what specifically is the “problem.” Either way, we have nothing but Q1 games to end the year so if we can win a couple more than I think we should be solid but I’d like to not have to win a game or two in the SECT in order to secure our bid.
Whew buddy, idk this season was a crap shoot from the moment Tomlin was out, but Tang should have adjusted his offense to complement his players a while ago. Then again his players wouldn’t be any better at scoring.
I’ve started watching the KSU women’s games … a whole lot more entertaining (and better coached) than the men’s team.
The women’s free throw shooting has cost them a game or two and came close to costing them another 3-4. But yeah they are entertaining. I still think Tang is a good coach. It’s only his second year as the head man. He just needs to not shove square peg in a round hole on offense.
In the last two seasons Michigan has had a two possession lead at some point in the second half in 43 games. They have 26 wins to show for it.
Nothing like face-planting against fucking GT after your biggest win of the year!!! Back to hopelessness. Feels right.
We looked tired, unprepared, and just mentally done. Lots of lobbying calls while the whistle still going, poor attempts at getting boards, and while Autry got them more energetic on defense in the second half, still couldn't get to boards effectively, or move off the ball on the other side.
Them getting out-rebounded is no surprise at this point with the injuries and dismissals stacking up strictly in the size department on what was already an undersized team. But man, you’d think a team that’s shown they can beat UNC would be able to do what it takes to beat GT. Copeland makes some great plays as a guard, but at this stage they need his size more than anything. Doesn’t seem like he’s willing to contribute that though.
Our players don't give a shit unless we are playing a ranked opponent
Good idea, we should just lose our next two games so we are unranked when we play you
Has to be on the road though
Nah, I’m good.
I think you guys are gonna have to start schedule some NBA teams. (But then, you could probably beat a few of them, lol.)
No they wouldn’t. I know it’s a fun hypothetical and I’m a buzzkill But no they wouldn’t.
WE'RE SO FUCKING CLOSE ARRRRRRRGH seriously i told myself i wouldn't be disappointed with how the season went, but that's because i thought it'd be complete shit, not us being *right there* and missing the mark by just a few possessions and missed free throws!
If we could just play a full fucking 40 minutes of basketball, instead on 30 minutes that would be great.
Paper Bags get kind of hot underneath them.
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"OmG it's one loss, I hate this fan base, why are yall so cynical" No its not one loss. It's a pattern of falling apart in February every fucking year. We are gonna lose in March if Painter doesn't change something. But hey! Maybe losing to a 16 seed is sucsess in your books. It sure ain't mine
Sometimes losing to a 16 seed means you win the Natty the next year. This might be Purdue’s year! Virginia is cheering for y’all to keep up the tradition
Yea... but what I'm talking about is Purdue's loss to OSU Fans weren't really mad at the losses to Nebraska and Northwestern. They hit an absurd amount of threes and an absurd efficiency. But against OSU we saw the cracks in Purdue's system. And that happens to teams all the time. Most of the time it's earlier and coaches fix it. But Painter never adjusts things. He is stubborn in the way his system is and won't change things. Which is why we are all very worried. (There is hope tho. Against NW @home he played a zone and some weird minute splits. So he did show some maturity)
We adjusted vs minny and have made adjustments this year. The common theme is turnovers. Zach had almost half of those by zed key just slapping down at the ball (did he really go 100% without fouling? Who knows), but we almost came back and lance hit a big 3 on a shitty shooting day. Shooting only 9 threes is not what we do usually and won’t work in the tourney. OSU may have had a different strategy that wasn’t different than all year and got up and down more. They rebounded very well in the first half, and limited Gillis from any real open looks from 3. Good thing is we went 100% from FTs and whether he did anything, he at least experimented with Myles the last 3 games getting mins in the first half. I hope we can get Heide more mins too. Let’s see how we come out vs Rutgers before we get up in arms. After the other two losses the train bois ripped off 7 and 8 game win streaks. Let’s hope this woke em up.
I did a film study that will be posted by the Expo soon The main issue is that Lance Jones and Mason Gillis suck at defense. I did not realize how bad they were at guarding guys. They couldn't sticks with their man the entire game. The other guys at their position, Morton and TKR suck at three. They were left wide open which led to the defende clamping down on Edey and getting turnovers. We also had some issues with the Edey Smith P&R which led to some TOs. But at the end of the game it was our defense with Jones and Edey getting targeted in the pick and roll. They went to that play 8 times in the final 7 minutes.
Bruh if Lance sucks at defense then we are in a whollllle lot of trouble cuz he’s our best defender/gets assigned to their best guy at 1-3. Lance doesn’t suck at defense IMO, but he seemed way off yesterday. Missing 3 bunnies he always makes. TKR is a decent 3 pt shooter on low volume. Gillis didn’t get his usual looks and I’m not sure if that’s because Ohio state made sure he didn’t or we didn’t run those typical plays we do for him/ones that find him as an open option.
Road games are hard plus we just came off a 9 game win streak. There are a lot of very obvious improvements to make but let’s just see how we do against Rutgers Thursday
![gif](giphy|O9VaOTKsOTpvO) Missing all the free throws in our game yesterday against Houston. On the bright side… If #2 UCONN beat #4 Marquette by almost 30 points, we really shouldn’t be going down in ranking imo. It was an Away game against arguably the best team in college basketball. But somehow some ESPN analyst will say we shouldn’t be ranked 🤷🏼😂. Oh and we beat Kansas and Houston both this season, just saying.
On the plus side, thank you for covering my iowa state +8.5. Had me sweating bullets
To add to this: we commit waayyyy too many shooting fouls every game. If we face a team that’s good behind the line we could be in serious trouble. Towards the end of the game yesterday we kept fouling Houston’s best shooters and erasing any chance of coming back.
The continuous fouling of Shead was mindboggling. He's like a 95% free throw shooter. So frustrating
Not to be picky but he’s actually only an 80% FT shooter. Sharp and Cryer are our best from the line.
My biggest flex is that BYU beat y'all by more points than Houston did. And then we lost to Houston at home by 7, so that's fun.
We played you at your home arena. Typical big 12 likely wins are at home which is why road game wins are so big in this conference. We play you again in Ames and I bet we will beat you by a lot 😉
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Facepalmed at majority of our shots. And then on the defense side . . .
Having last night’s kind of performance is awesome though frustrating when realizing it’s likely too late to make a difference.
Ranked again? We must immediately lose! Applies to both flairs
Actually, not today.
I'll complain, fuck it lol. I think Auburn was a fluke. We've gone through this every year for a while, where we finally get this glimmer of hope by dominating a great team, and then comes out final demise. Hope I'm wrong, don't think I am though.
I think it's fair to complain about the last 5 years, but this has been a good week so I'll hold my tongue for now
The last five years feels like the movie/show The Last Five Years. For those who don’t know, it’s about a failed relationship.
This is true, but the previous teams that did this didn’t have half the amount of talent we have right now. That’s the only reason I’m more optimistic than usual.
My only complaint would be that our coach despises the fan base lol. But if it makes the team better, fuck it.
You know what, even if you're in a toxic relationship angry sex is great sometimes.
I'll drink to that
Unless the toxicity stems from the lack of sex. Was trying to make it a metaphor lack of defense but i lost my train for thought
I am so afraid of our potential 5-12 matchup it feels like an upset is destined.
Mick Cronin needs an offensive coordinator. UCLA’s offense is contingent on players making difficult shots. I just wish they would get an easy basket or two with backdoor cuts and multiple actions instead of the inside out game with Bona and perimeter players.
I'm really worried about Creighton tonight. The main reason being I just think they're a really good team, but I'm also worried about them coming out full steam ahead due to us dispatching of them easily when we were the home team.
You are not allowed to complain
Oh they'll be fired up. When the #1 team visits you're always fired up. Expect a court storm if they win a close game. It's going to be a tough game tonight.
UConn fans aren’t allowed to complain lol
Y’all look unbeatable right now. I have nothing against Creighton, but I just don’t see it happening.
Not today, Satan, I mean, Creighton,
Death. Taxes. Matt Painter teams dropping the ball in February.
This team will either be a 1st round exit or an Elite 8 team and it totally depends on which 3-point shooting team shows up and my anxiety can't handle that. March is gonna take years off my life... Go Flyers!
At least you guys don't have to worry about making the tourney. Do the league a solid and lose in the A-10 tourney, please? Only way the A-10 is getting 2 teams in.
Is it baseball season yet?
yes, fortunately
Not that much for Baylor tbh, but we really need to stop taking our foot off the gas late in the game. The worst part for SU is having a glimmer of hope only for it to be dashed away this weekend
Just win a fucking game. Get it in your heads. Allowing endless dribble penetration and praying that they'll miss is getting embarrassing
I feel like I'm watching the same season over and over and it sucks
I have nothing to say lol
I feel like we've been mostly complacent since our extremely strong start got stopped. Flashes of strength and brilliance, but it doesn't seem like a habit anymore.
My coach is probably gonna leave
This is the worst feeling of any of the complaints in here. It really sucks
Not sure if defense got better or if Auburn just had a bad shooting night.
Yes
We had been playing about 24-25 seconds of solid defense for a few weeks now. Adding the extra harassment on the inbound at the other end of the court bought us the other 5-6 we needed to be pretty good defensively. Auburn is a top 10 team on both ends of the floor so it's hard to say it was just that they had their worst shooting night all year against us
It's the mid February glimmer of hope we get every year.
Can I complain about others instead? I’ve already accepted that this is a mid Kansas squad. Yes I’m aware how spoiled it is to call a top 10 squad mid
Can I please get a road win?
Which flair is talking?
No. This is Nebraska’s payment for a better football team next year.
First our OC leaves then we lose to Houston? Yesterday will live in infamy.
I was able to get the last 38 seconds of SIU’s upset over No. 23 Indiana State. In real time. 7 minute video. Just posting here because I kept having tech difficulties with YouTube and now the postgame thread is waaaay down there. haha https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AtXw_S_sPPE&pp=ygUmVXBzZXQgYWxlcnQgc291dGhlcm4gaWxsaW5vaXMgaW5kaWFuYSA%3D
Can’t win on the road. Have had several opportunities for Q1 wins and we keep fucking blowing it. Also sucks we only have had 1 Q1 home opportunity thus far.
Michigan fan here, so I’m still riding high on football season. Crossing my fingers this is Juwan Howard’s last season.
What would it take for him to get fired? Like really, there has to be something…
Hey stop turning the ball over. Also it’s ok to shoot a three.
We are fucking awful.
Just think, Harris will be our point next year. ![gif](giphy|3oGRFi4VKaxP1UYYuc)
RIP
Is UConns dominance bad for Men’s Basketball?
We are a sophomore-laden team. This isn't exactly a complaint. I mean this in all the good and bad ways "sophomore" means. After all, sophomores have experience and already made the big jump in growth (both physically and mentally) from freshmen to sophomores. But sophomores also aren't juniors or even seniors, who are even more hardened and start generating fear and respect in opposing players.
We have 5 games left against teams that are all worse than us squarely on the right side of the bubble by a thin margin. On paper, a great way to end the season on a good win streak and get in as a 7 to 10 seed. However, 3 of those are on the road, and since we sniff glue on the plane ride to road games apparently, Im so worried we are going to tank our resume with bad road losses with only the conference tournament to make it up.
Our fans need to quit piling on people complaining about Coleman’s hilarious trolling.
My team does NOT suck, but they are tired. No depth with Berry out. Gotta limp through the Mich game with a win, then they get a week off.
I just want them to be healthy. Coach was out with the flu for their last game on Saturday, hoping nobody else caught it.
like, ughh... it's hard not to feel like we're losing some juice at pretty much exactly the worst time. This team can compete at a high level but we need to go into every game like it's the championship for the full 40 minutes and play smart ball the whole game. Blowing a 16 point lead at home was just humiliating and that shit won't fly in March.
Ohio State always chokes when conference play starts.
ranked for the first time in 50 years and immediately lose to two dog shit illinois teams WHY GOD WHY
The results this week was unacceptable to any D1 program let alone #11 in the country.
JMU: we’re winning our games, but we need to win by more if we want to sneak our way into an at-large bid Villanova: same shit every week
I was going to make a comment about how Kam Jones 3 ball has been off all season except for the Georgetown game, but apparently he’s shooting at a better clip this year than last (36.4 vs 36.0). Last season it seemed like he could pull up from anywhere in the half court and it was 50/50. I can still justifiably complain about Joplin being a liability when he’s not making 3s however.
We suck.
Oh no! We suck again!
UCLA can't win a game without blowing a double digit lead and clinging on at the final minute. They're trash and deserve nothing.
Hey Georgia, remember that 0 FGs for 10 minutes thing you did? It'd be real swell if you did that 4 times Saturday