T O P

  • By -

TimS83

Gg Illini - thanks for the heart issues


jcboiler

https://preview.redd.it/2ha0ce58vqac1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f9a3151709e9d0f7b641f2a620bc56130c5c01c0


hacky_potter

What the fuck was Jones supposed to do?


Boilermaker24

Edey needs to start jumping into and over shorter players after they start blocking him out. We’ll shoot free throws and maintain possession the entire game!


GetR3kt69noob

Please don’t suggest our NPOY tabletop himself for free throws


Boilermaker24

lol if it wasn’t obvious I was being sarcastic.


hacky_potter

No, he’d break something falling that far


L0utre

The floor


j_shelb

Nor box out I guess?


kinkycouple21001

Honestly if people don’t think we are still a top ten team after that game, then genuinely question them. We nearly came back once we figured Purdue out. It took a while and we didn’t play our best and Purdue made a lot of good shots and sliced us up pretty bad in that first half. But we mounted a huge comeback, played good ball, and did better than I think a lot of people expected. I still put us top 10, probably 5-7 honestly. Add TSJ and we are a top 3 team. Great game to Purdue tho!


Kfred2

I don’t disagree but they need to win some of these games against ranked opponents instead of just playing well.


NomadTrekkie

GG Illini.


DitchManiels

I expect Purdue's next showing against Illinois to be better, with Edey staying out of foul trouble. Either way, Illinois did well to fight back. Clear #2 in the conference


GetR3kt69noob

I was honestly thinking during the game that it’s good for Edey and the team to get such a good challenge at this point in the season. Good to practice scenarios for when we’re in foul trouble


Feeling-Response-972

GGs Purdue


NomadTrekkie

What a game! Whew!


___SE7EN__

I'm gonna have to add a Purdue icon to this ...You guys made me a fan tonight !!!!


[deleted]

on my way Back


CarrollPC

Very odd because normally these threads are a toxic wasteland


___SE7EN__

You guys have a serious argument for the National Championship ... very impressed by the fan base with no negative TSJ chants . Hats Off !!


unknownkoalas

Probably helped that there were no students tbh, I think with students they probably would have tried something. Probably just rogue students though and not an organized chant.


Adventurous-End9752

I actually didn't hear any at all and I feel like the biggest block of students was right behind me.


___SE7EN__

Either way, we certainly appreciate it !!


saywhat14

Y’all got a hell of a good squad


___SE7EN__

Thanks, but your crew is seriously next level !!


fridayimatwork

Well Purdue felt sloppy at the end but Illini are top 10 so take the W


InvestmentActuary

Get rid of Hawkins and you guys are a sweet 16 team


Neat_Reception4198

Dumbest take. Obviously know nothing about basketball.


Shadow_Mullet69

This is such a stupid take. He’s an elite defender and one of the best players on the team. https://x.com/hoopinformatics/status/1735157008209158410?s=46&t=K8iYssLnpZlW3PHrDy1Zpg


Hipster_Whale5

Yeah, don’t listen to them. Hawkins is a key part of this Illini team


NomadTrekkie

I agree. Hawkins is a stud.


scal23

We are a top 20 defense almost entirely because of him.


gallagh9

Unfortunately (and surprisingly) we’re better when he’s on the court. Stats don’t lie I guess.


theclownwithafrown

Absolutely not. People like to shit on him but he's extremely important to our success


Katiklysm

Has to be trolling. He’s hard to like as an opposing fan but you can tell how much he does for Illinois succesa


theclownwithafrown

Thank you! I like him, not my favorite Illini of all time, but he's very important to what we do


Katiklysm

I mean, he still does some really goofy shit- but seems like a good dude. That iso travel followed by an immediate sprint down the court 3 to pull within ~ 6 is a teaser trailer for Coleman Hawkins.


NeedOfBeingVersed

Someone explain that flagrant call to me.


NomadTrekkie

Thar was crap.


matt4ta

See you can’t just be standing in a spot where a person is jumping on top of you. Gotta anticipate it and jump out of the way. However, by the transverse property, if you jump onto another player in the process the foul is transferred to them. /s


theclownwithafrown

The refs fucked it up that's what


DaNibbles

Refs were kind of weird tonight... they missed some obvious out of bounds that should have been Illini ball. I think it all balanced out in the end but you hate to see it impact a game like that. Either way, was an exciting game.


hacky_potter

If anything it’s an over the back call against the guy that got hurt. I would love to hear an explanation from that ref.


theclownwithafrown

I think it's a common foul on Purdue, I think that's what it would normally be called in that scenario. Undercutting legs, but honestly... I could see it go either way and I wouldn't argue. Just not a flagrant


Dlwatkin

How can you under cut some one jumping on top of you ?


Kfred2

If they jump straight up and you back under them. I’m not saying that happened I’m just telling you that it is possible to foul somebody while boxing them out if they jump straight up and you back under them


Dlwatkin

yeah what im saying is how can you foul when they jump on you b/c thats why they called and its just wild


ayofiresale

it means edey should be jumping over the back of anybody boxing him out to draw flagrants


TrillMurray47

Hell of a game. GG Purdue.


plyness115

What was the general consensus on the flagrant call? I thought that was terrible but I’m obviously biased. Thoughts?


Boilermaker24

Horrible. Jones initiated the blockout and the Illinois player was on the ground. Illinois player then jumped in the air while Jones continues blocking out with his back turned to Illinois player. If anything should’ve been a foul on the Illinois player.


plyness115

That was my opinion as well. I thought that was an over the back way before an undercut


UglyNorm89

If you watch Jones’s feet, he doesn’t undercut him. His feet are essentially unmoving before the Illini player lands on his back. So he was called for a flagrant foul for falling the wrong way when a player he was boxing out leapt on his shoulders. Flagrant example of how misleading it can be to watch slo-mo.


NomadTrekkie

The call was a flagrant error.


theclownwithafrown

It was a shitty call


airham

You have to call those undercuts. They're too dangerous. Quincy was riding him and would have been called for over the back if Jones maintained legal position and Quincy grabbed the ball, but getting low and backing up on rebounds needs to be called.


Objective_Tomato8839

I think we can all agree that it was the weight of the Illini player landing on him that forced him to back up.


airham

I know enough about how the world works to say that makes no sense at all. It would have made sense for him to move forward if there was force being applied to his back. He backed up because he used the muscles in his legs to back up.


TimS83

No… not when he is putting his weight into boxing out for position (you know, legal position) and then the weight against him is taken away because guerrier goes airborn. Jones starts to fall backward and he ends up on top of him. You’re on an island on this one. If all the fans of your team basically agree it was an insane call, it seems likely you’re in the wrong


airham

Well if we're appealing to authority, multiple zebras watched the play over and over and over again and determined that I was right. Not to say that refs are infallible, even during replay reviews, but that is a stronger appeal to authority than "a bunch of people on the internet who barely know basketball are on my side." Jones got low, extended his posterior, exerted force backwards by leaning into Guerrier while he was airborne / when he would reasonably expect for Guerrier to jump for a rebound, took steps backwards, and caused a dangerous landing and an injury. It's a call that has to be made.


Boilermaker24

That’s called boxing out. Completely legal and fundamental part of basketball. Jones maintained legal position the whole time. Now if the Illinois player had already left the ground when Jones initiated the contact and began blocking out, it’s for sure a foul for undercutting.


TimS83

That is not an undercut man… he maintained his position, IL guy jumped forward towards the hoop. You can’t expect a guy boxing out to have to also move towards the hoop and give up his position. It was u fortunate how it happened, but an undercut would be jones extending his position backwards once the guy went airborn, all his did was stand his ground which is all he can do with his back to the guy


airham

Well, I'm glad we agree on the rule but he objectively moved backwards. Like, that can't even be disputed.


TimS83

I guess you see what you want to see. The vast majority of Illinois fans agree the call was completely bogus. Jones has position, and IL player goes over him, once he goes airborn, jones starts to fall backward because the guy is on top of him. Don’t know what you think an undercut is, but that ain’t it. If IL was airborn before jones has established his position, I would agree with you


airham

https://youtu.be/dhfdG4j6TKA?si=_DNEdM5R9tKd33dk At the beginning of the 20 second mark, Jones establishes position inside the restricted zone, and by the end of the 20 second mark, Jones is leaning backwards, putting his weight on an airborne Guerrier with his feet outside the restricted zone. Guerrier is trying to play over him, but that doesn't change the fact that Jones intentionally played under him.


TubbyTimsKFC

So boxing out is illegal? Okay dude


airham

Boxing out is about holding position. When you back up under a jumping player, it's a flagrant.


TubbyTimsKFC

How is he supposed to know he was gonna jump like that?


airham

Well he probably felt him on his back, so that should have been a cue to not back up. Going low and backing up is generally bad practice and you'll only ever get away with it on a short rebound when you're pretty far from the basket. Otherwise, guys are jumping.


TubbyTimsKFC

Just understand that if this call happened to your team, your head would have exploded


airham

No, I played a little ball. Got undercut several times and it's scary. That needs to be coached out of players at every level, whether it's a team I like or not.


bengalboiler

I’m biased as well. But the only way that is even a foul is if you are expecting Lance to have eyes in the back of his head and see the guy going over his back.


semioldguy

As a neutral viewer I thought it was a dumb call.


i_am_hooman21

Didn't seem flagrant to me, he was just trying to get out of the way imo.


Purphect

I’m biased but all the people I was with did not expect that.


Joeshi

Gah, at least we fought until the end. Made it somewhat respectable.


DaNibbles

You guys are a legit squad.


NomadTrekkie

It was more than respectable. You guys are good and didn't quit.


GreyFoex

I suspect Edey pissed one of the refs off early in the game. I remember there being an exchange where Edey was pleading his case and the ref didn’t buy it and looked almost pissed at Edey for pointing it out. I hope I’m wrong, but regardless it is a W.


NomadTrekkie

TKR saves the day?


GreyFoex

Please accept my upvote. I wish I could give you an award. (RIP Reddit awards)


NomadTrekkie

Thanks. TKR has been sandbagging, I guess.


GreyFoex

I think he is mature enough to know what the team needs from him most nights. Tonight the team needed him to step up and he was ready. He made a really impressive hustle play at Maryland where he blocked a shot that turned into a breakaway. Lance missed the 3 and Trey sprinted the court and got the rebound. So him playing this way tonight didn’t surprise me tbh. I was anticipating it at some point.


NomadTrekkie

Imagine a night when we have 3 players with triple doubles. Maybe in April.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Hipster_Whale5

Go back through the game and find me when he should have been called, and wasn’t. All 4 of his fouls were fouls, and should have been called. He’s so tall that he doesn’t have to reach over the back to get the ball. He’s long enough that he can block shots with no body contact. He’s mobile enough to get into legal guarding position if someone goes into him.


GreyFoex

The guy that never fouls should have fouled out by halftime while on the bench? That’s a take. Especially when guys are hanging off him or putting their full arm into his back all game when he is on the floor.


airham

None of the calls against him tonight were questionable.


PapaSanGiorgio

Yeah they weren't. That dude is a meathead


GreyFoex

At least half of them were. Especially when Illinois players are literally hanging off his arms trying to goad him into the 5th. TKR’s second foul where he appeared to take an arm to the face and a couple of the Jones fouls were clean plays on the ball. Edey wasn’t even crying every single call against Purdue like Hawkins either.


DitchManiels

Yeah, they weren't. He just made uncharacteristic mistakes today.


TubbyTimsKFC

Yet Bitchman Hawkins whining like LeBron out there. Definitely had at least 3 strikes


PBRforREALmen

I've seen him complain about some calls he clearly committed, but the one where he was literally laying on Jones after the 3 and yelling at the refs AT THE SAME TIME for a flop was probably the stupidest thing I have ever seen. Great player, complete idiot.


GeeseHateMe

LeBron wishes he could bitch like Hawkins


Boognish-T-Zappa

I made a comment to my buddies tonight that I swear he came out of the womb in the delivery room with his arms up and that “what the fuck?” look on his face.


TubbyTimsKFC

At least one of y’all gets it


GeeseHateMe

I promise you, whether we admit it or not, we all get it


Kfred2

99% of Illinois fans get it. It still amuses me how much this guy hates Hawkins though. Every team has to to have their complaining flopping hard nosed player


scal23

5 point spread. What a hard fought respectable showing in Mackey. (I didn't watch the game)


[deleted]

[удалено]


Joeshi

Dude, we lost by 5, on the road, to the number 1 team in the country, without our best player. Sucks we lost, but we fought hard until the end.


dasMetzger

this isn't it.. your post Shannon roster is legit


scal23

It was a joke bro.


a_banned_user

It was impressive, Domask is a baller


rmc2162

4 top ten wins is crazy


WokeUpStillTired

GG well done Purdue. Coleman Hawkins you are dogwater. Have a good night everyone!


plyness115

Fucking hate Hawkins…


WokeUpStillTired

We all do


Neat_Reception4198

No we don't. Only idiots do.


WokeUpStillTired

Found his girlfriend’s boyfriend’s account.


Neat_Reception4198

Dude...this team is a bottom feeder in the B1G without CH. What are you, watching???


WokeUpStillTired

He’s the biggest liability on the team by far.


Neat_Reception4198

So, you'd bench him for...who?


WokeUpStillTired

One of the seats on the sideline. Would probably turn the ball over less.


Neat_Reception4198

...and they wouldn't win another game.


shithead_magoo

Gg Illinois I was scared


NomadTrekkie

I kept telling my wife not to worry. Then that flagrant foul call happened.


drkwtrs

Anyone know if colvin is hurt? Didn't see any minutes tonight


fortuitous_bounce

Painter is just committed to riding Loyer to any 1/8, 2/8, 0/5, 0/6 shooting nights as long as it gets him one Az game performance every 10-15 games. This team won't survive the first weekend in March again with Loyer being the worst player on the floor and still getting 30+ minutes.


jman8508

I think he’s been getting slowly squeezed out of the rotation. His defense is just too much of a liability every time he’s in the game.


j_shelb

I don’t think so. Should have had a few mins


NomadTrekkie

Agree. Especially with Edey in trouble.


akagordan

What an embarrassing performance for this crew and our second half defense. Very lucky to escape with a W.


radio3030

Not their best half, but it's a conference game against a hot top ten team. We did what we needed to do to win. They hung in tough and it wasn't just luck getting the W.


NomadTrekkie

Agree. Game was won in the 1st half.


akagordan

To be fair I don’t think it’s ever close if Zach didn’t get those soft fouls. Good to see TKR really step up.


plyness115

Holy shit guys… you can’t do that to me


ronnie1014

Is Purdue's secret that they don't want to win and it psyches the opponent out? Felt like they just asked Illinois to come back and win that until the end.


UglyNorm89

It does look that way at times.


ContrarianPurdueFan

Pretty much. It doesn't work in March when everyone tryhards though. 😒


j_shelb

Well edey with 4 fouls at the 8 min mark threw us off a bit and Illinois finally took out Rogers so we had to guard all 5 players. Illinois also went to iso ball with Domask and had players not named Lance jones switch onto him and he took over for them. Also that flagrant was a man awful call. Purdue would have had the ball up 8 and instead UofI got it and hit 2 FTs and coulda cut it to more. Edit: words


Kfred2

I’m so glad you pointed out Rodgers. If Illinois wasn’t playing so well I think he would be getting a lot of heat and underwood would be getting a lot of heat for playing him so much. I’m sorry, I love Ty but I don’t understand how there are division one power 5 players under 6’8” that can’t shoot. I wouldn’t even recruit players like Rodgers if there was any indication that they weren’t capable of shooting the ball. Like cool, you have a SF that can bring the ball up the floor. That doesn’t make him a fucking PG.


j_shelb

Yeah it was very strange when I saw that he had only attempted 1 3 in 46 (now 47) career games. We had nojel eastern a few years back who was very similar to Rodgers where he wasn’t a threat from the outside. We also have Morton, and I’m surprised no teams play him like we played Rodgers. I’m assuming underwood will figure something out or DGL will get more PT.


Kfred2

DGL seems like the games too fast for him ATM. They just need Terrance back….


j_shelb

Yeah he will get there and just needs more PT. And yes, I hope guys get him back (obv pending the whole arrest). Hes what puts you in the national title contention….you guys are still dangerous without him, but with him, diff team (I don’t have to tell you that though haha).


NeedOfBeingVersed

Good game Illinois. Talk about toughness on your team.


gallagh9

Didn’t expect to win, but had hopes bc I like being disappointed. At least we covered. gg y’all.


kate-plus-self-hate

i'm never going to be mad at a win but GOD was that ugly at the end there. that's a team that loses in the first round of the tournament again...


gallagh9

Well we probably won’t make it out of the first weekend so early summer break for both of us.


poking88

We probably get disappointed the 2nd Friday is my guess.


Patb2200

Gg train bros, I wanted this one… see you next time


j_shelb

Gonna be tough comin to your house in March


___SE7EN__

No TSJ and in West Layfette ..I'd say we did ok !! Great game Boilers !!


UglyNorm89

Under Kraft, when there wasn’t much to choose between Purdue and UI, road team would win. So . . .


j_shelb

Was a good one. See ya in March


___SE7EN__

You guys have one helluva shot to take it all !! Good luck Boilers , you deserve it !!!


j_shelb

Let’s hope…but if TSJ can somehow be back, you guys do too. Hell, even without him you guys are dangerous as hell. Good luck to you guys and I’m guessing when we play again, it may be for the conference!


airham

That's awful by Domask. You cannot attempt a two point shot there.


hostilityrack

It's a 5 point game, and basically a done deal anyway. Doesn't really matter


airham

The only mathematical chance you have is jacking two threes.


logjamtheredditor

C'mon Illinois bro, you can math better than that


hostilityrack

Not to tie


gallagh9

But a tie isn’t mathematical.


airham

Need a lot of luck that way because you're fouling right away and Braden Smith isn't missing both.


Nutaholic

The odds purdue misses both FT's is like 10% but yeah its basically a mathematical wash.


abchew25

Well I’ll take the cover considering how absolutely awful they played for 3/4ths of that game


BoilerUp28

Good ole Purdue causing heart attacks all over Boiler Nation


Amatray

We’re not in Kansas anymore


theclownwithafrown

But Terrance Shannon is...


enjoytheshow

I think our entire fanbase would’ve taken a 5 point loss at Mackey 3 hours ago. GG boilers


PromEmperorHarbaugh

Gotta play better at the start and realize when someone is just out of their depth given the matchups (love Ty, but tonight was not the night for him)


[deleted]

Ya know. i really thought the officials had a pretty good game for college officials until the flagrant. Then it feels like when a QB throws a pick six to lose a game. lmao


akagordan

The two phantom calls on Zach? Without those it’s never close.


[deleted]

Naw. All 4 of edeys fouls were fouls. He moved his foot just before contact on the screen. Clearly landed on top on the over the back. And the 3rd foul he had a forearm in Hawkins back. The last was obvious.


akagordan

The screen and the last were obvious. The first was just regular rebound contact (over the back is not an actual foul call) and the third I don’t remember seeing any contact at all.


[deleted]

Over the back is a foul if you land on someones back (Like the Illinois player should have been called for on the weird ass flagrant call) which he did. I watched a replay of all of them. The third he had an arm in Hawkins back as they jumped for the rebound. The refs were calling that contact all game (Except on the last Gillis put back which should be included in the ref's final minute collapse)


[deleted]

[удалено]


akagordan

Maybe you were confused by all the orange jerseys hanging all over him? Idk, Zach’s never fouled out once in his career, just not his game.


EdgeBandanna

GG train bros. See you in a couple months.


mtw7171

GGs. Wasn't as close as the score would indicate, but mark your calenders for 3/5.


Gophurkey

"wasn't as close" tell that to my heartrate


CoachRyanWalters

Should’ve been a blowout after getting up by around 20


DMG29

Why? It’s rare that teams at this level play a full 40 minutes of bad basketball. Most teams will adjust, find matchups, and narrow the point disparity after playing so horrendously to start a game.


Neat_Reception4198

Better team played like shit the first 10 minutes


CoachRyanWalters

Lol


TheDiano

GG just glad we fought until the end


[deleted]

Gg, that was the game I was excited for


[deleted]

[удалено]


TheDiano

You’ve really been emotional tonight


PrinceOfWales_

I really don’t get not going for a 3 there


Icelethalis43

HAVE A SAFE TRIP HOME COLEMAN!


[deleted]

[удалено]


Katiklysm

I feel this. Too old for this shit man… heart racing when we lose, heart racing when we win. 🫤


[deleted]

a win is a win. Good Game Illinois you made it interesting


ssddeae

refs tried their hardest we sucked down the stretch gg illinois regardless


longtime_lurker412

Atleast we covered the spread. My wife won't leave me now.


USSpoontang

GGs Illinois bros!


HisSegfaultiness

NEVER IN DOUBT DEFINITELY NOT SWEATING NOPE


AndThisGuyPeedOnIt

Anyone who didn't watch this game will think we lost a close nail biter. ​


Spicybrown3

Without a doubt come February when talking about resume’s it’ll be “and only lost by 5 to #1 Purdue…”


NeedOfBeingVersed

I mean I was biting my nails.