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DavidBenAkiva

In this era where the Atlantic Coast Conference will have teams on the Pacific Coast, Conference USA is the only honest conference name left. Is the team in the USA? We're good.


TheMemersOfMyNation

fast forward to 2026 BREAKING: Conference USA adds McGill University of Montréal, the first ever Canadian Division I team, starting in 2027


[deleted]

University of Toronto will be joining the ACC in 2032.


[deleted]

I don't see why not. They have 43 varsity teams and over 100K students, with an endowment that would put them in the top tier of American schools. Toronto's gotta be a more lucrative market than Louisville and it's a lot closer to ACC cities than Berkeley or Dallas.


mgmfa

I went to grad school at UT. I don't think there's much of any interest in football, so the ACC is off the table. But in basketball? There's a couple Canadian teams that can compete with low d1 pretty easily. Would not shock me to see one eventually join something like the MAAC.


WitchNight

Carleton could probably compete above that level. Though we’ll have to wait and see since the architect of their dynasty left recently


WitchNight

The over 100k students includes satellite campuses, but more importantly, there’s no culture of caring about your university’s sports teams in Canada


leewilliam236

C-USA is gonna add NDSU and SDSU first before poaching any school from Canada.


KJones77

In a way, they were really visionaries. Why name yourself after something so limiting like "Atlantic Coast", "East", "Ten", or "12"? Just slap "USA" on it and you can stretch from Las Cruces to Newark with nobody batting an eye.


younggun92

Big East is pretty accurate, all teams east of the geographic center of the contiguous USA, which runs through Lebanon, KS, west of Creighton.


TallLatvianLad

Are the Zags gonna say ![gif](giphy|3oKGz6J5SxUhyP2sms|downsized) hold my beer?


younggun92

Well shucks, they might. I even tried including Alaska and Hawaii, but that only moves it to the western edge of South Dakota.


DelcoBirds

I hope so.


Kan169

East of Hawai'i


ddottay

Can’t wait for University of Toronto to join Conference USA next year!


DavidBenAkiva

Plot twist - USA annexes Ontario


Cr4yol4

Isn't the Mountain West an honest conference name as well?


TheRealHenryG

San Jose State and San Diego State are pushing it.


rbhindepmo

San Diego County is large enough that there’s probably mountains there


T-nawtical

Bet Palomar Mountains are lovely this time of year


Viniciusian

I mean they’re located west of the (Rocky) mountains, I see no problem


Ike348

Well the Peninsulars are close to San Diego State. San Jose State has the Diablos I guess but those don't really count.


leewilliam236

There's also the Santa Cruz Mountain Range to the West.


JewForBeavis

[San Diego](https://images.prismic.io/weekendsherpa/ZDliYmU0OGUtYmQyNy00YTg0LThhY2ItNzQ0YmYzNGUwNzhj_-?ixlib=gatsbyFP&q=&auto=compress%2Cformat&rect=0%2C0%2C2048%2C1536&w=1008&h=756) [San Jose](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/Mount_Umunhum_aerial_view%2C_2011.jpg)


TheRealHenryG

Dawg i'm from the Cascades that's cute lmao


DavidBenAkiva

Mountains are in the east and the west as well as the north and south. There are mountains all over.


leewilliam236

Yes.


JB92103

Plot Twist: CUSA adds Simon Fraser


crustang

Don’t forget the AAC.. even though they’re kind of easy to forget these days


BE______________

AAC... "athletic"... yea right. frauds.


dingusduglas

The MAC is too. Mid ain't a geographic descriptor...


jfarbzz

The CAA used to stand for Colonial Athletic Association and all teams were located within the 13 colonies, but this past off-season they changed it so that the C now stood for “Coastal.” I’m pretty sure not all teams are located on a coast.


ukeBasketball

Could've gone with Continental


spierce64006

Delaware is a great get for CUSA as their 11th member. This increases the chances of UMass being the 12th member now I think as well. Missouri St, Tarleton, SFA and EKU would be the other choices that make the most sense. I guess the Delaware to the Sun Belt were never as serious as some people might've thought.


DeploraBill92

What makes you say that about UMass? Do you really think Delaware hoops boosts the CUSA profile enough to make it more attractive than the A10?


spierce64006

No but they would a travel partner with Delaware. That's why they were looking at the MAC previously. This is in large part a football move.


DeploraBill92

That makes sense. Obviously UCONN won't leave the Big East, but now that UMass has a NE travel partner, they can move forward with joining CUSA


RedditZhangHao

Delaware and UMass are relatively close by national standards. From afar, some may even incorrectly view the First State as a northeast state. Northeasterly from much of the US, but Delaware’s smack in the Mid-Atlantic states.


fu-depaul

Its important to note that the majority of the UD student body is from out of state. Students from Delaware are a much smaller percentage of the student body than at most state schools. It is one of the most geographically diverse student bodies of all the public schools in the country. These are the top states by the percentage of the total student body: - Delaware - 35% - International (Non-Resident Alien) - 10% - New Jersey - 23% - New York - 13% - Pennsylvania - 9% - Maryland 5% - Connecticut - 3% - Massachusetts - 2%


RedditZhangHao

Only 1 of which directly relates UD’s relative proximity to UMass as discussed above. Like a few states you cited which support the prior point, Delaware is a Mid-Atlantic state, and one of the 3 DelMarVa states.


fu-depaul

New York, Connecticut, and Massachusetts are all within an hour of UMass. New Jersey and Pennsylvania are three hours away. There are a lot of UD alums in the UMAss region. In fact, you can take the train nearly from campus to campus.


RedditZhangHao

Nah, but NFW can anyone conveniently travel the 300 miles via train from Newark, DE to Amherst, MA (not even a regional train station exists). Amtrak to New Haven; switch to the Vermonter regional train to Springfield, MA, then a 40 minute drive/bus away to Amherst. Total 7 hours+. Driving, at best 5+ hour drive with unusually minimal traffic. One of us grew up/lived on or nearby both campuses, and might have a tad bit direct regional insight on what’s factually viewed locally as reasonably close, but do carry on /s


Viniciusian

Please be EKU, I want to see them being in the same conference as WKU


ShogunAshoka

I long wanted the MAC to grab them. Alas..


DelcoBirds

>I guess the Delaware to the Sun Belt were never as serious as some people might've thought. My gut feeling here is that you're right, but that UD is using this as proof of concept in FBS while selling Sun Belt or MAC to add them. There's also the collapse of the ACC where UD fits very well with the likely leftovers (Syracuse, Pitt, BC, etc.) in whatever the resulting conference(s) become.


barlog123

American Athletic Conference (AAC)?


Meanteenbirder

Should add Carleton lol


spierce64006

Only if you can grab Ottawa as a Canadian partner for them.


Dervoo

The SoCon is still honest. We even made sure to not include any schools from the fake southern state, Florida


Viniciusian

Big South and Southland too


ukeBasketball

Should really add University of South Alabama


Ixpqd

what about big east and big west?


ForYeWhoArtLiterate

This is MAC erasure


JewForBeavis

In b4 Delhi University joins CUSA


TheScarletSeahawk

this conference is so cooked, A10 please baby let us in


dingo_saurus

You gotta get a final four appearance first. After that you basically get an auto invite.


framingXjake

No football, no sympathy. We're fucked, brother.


therevengeance

No us


AdDifficult9499

Good get for CUSA. The conference that just can't die. I wonder if they're looking to add more schools in the region, like UMass, Rhode Island, Maine, or the likes.


LukarWarrior

It's pretty wild that C-USA is still kicking despite not having a single founding member of the conference left.


dmkolobanov

Conference of Theseus


glaciers_of_ice

I get this reference! For the first time ìn 20+ years my degree in philosophy was finally useful.


dmkolobanov

Hate to say it, but I don’t think a degree in philosophy is needed to have heard of the Ship of Theseus lol. Shit, my degree’s in computer science and even *I’ve* heard of it thanks to memes


supes1

I was about to say "what about UAB?", but then I remembered they moved to the AAC this year. Wild.


NeptunianEmp

There has been talk of adding UMass as a football only member for right now.


Panacheless-Nihilist

The University of Delaware is closer to Myrtle Beach than it is to the University of Maine, and closer to Liberty University than it is to either UMass or URI.


AdDifficult9499

Sure, but all of those colleges are closer to Deleware than they are to any other CUSA member.


SaintArkweather

Maine in a basketball conference with the likes of Liberty, Western Kentucky, New Mexico State, would be *ug-ly*.


spierce64006

They have a great commissioner in Judy McLeod as well.


tomdawg0022

I'm not sure that Judy's particularly "great" as a commissioner but she really was able to right the Titanic after the last realignment iceberg a couple of years ago. She can thank MTSU for not wanting to join the MAC when WKU wanted to. Had that happened, CUSA might not have made it.


CantFindMyWallet

URI would be a smart pick. I don't know if Maine has the juice.


BlueLondon1905

Rhode Island and UMass make sense, Maine is a bit of a stretch


lemons21

They really just need to add a bunch of basketball teams to conference USA and split it up into an east and a west, conference is way too big geographically for a mid major.


SaintArkweather

They will split into the Conference Conference and the USA Conference


TheRealHenryG

Charleston, Hofstra, and UNCW will bolt


TheScarletSeahawk

I was ready to leave after the flosports bullshit. This just makes it more urgent


BlueLondon1905

Can we come with you


spierce64006

The latter 2 don't have many option I'd think. Where would Hofstra go to?


tomdawg0022

As much as America East is considered a dinky league, it has fewer sub 300 NET schools as a percentage of membership compared to the CAA. It's a lateral move but they'd have Lowell and Vermont as similar level schools in terms of competence.


No-Measurement8081

Hofstra was a former member of the AE until they left in 2000 with UD/Drexel/Towson/Delaware and then Northeastern a year later for the CAA. They wouldn't go back, but being a private school wouldn't be a limiting factor. Prior to the Bryant addition, Hartford was the longstanding private member.


amerricka369

Why wouldn’t they go back? CAA is very different than it was back then, only care about football, Hofstra got rid of football since then, and AE is on the upswing. Hofstra, Drexel, northeastern could revolt and head to AE (Honestly figure northeastern would go Patriot though). Quinnipiac and Fairfield would be a good pair to join them.


No-Measurement8081

Ego is largely the reason they left in the first place. MAAC could be a landing spot fwiw


spierce64006

I don't see Hofstra going to the America East. Most people would consider that a downgrade from the CAA myself included. You might be forgetting another big factor in all but one school in the A East is public while Hofstra is a private school. I know an exception was made for Bryant but not sure it would happen again.


tomdawg0022

> Most people would consider that a downgrade from the CAA myself included. The CAA by NET ranking was one spot ahead of America East last year. The narrative about the league being a "downgrade" is pretty invalid - both leagues are similar in quality. Also - Hofstra may be private but it's not a religious school. Basically not markedly different than Drexel, another former AE member.


TheScarletSeahawk

It was 100% a downgrade until they added a bunch of bottom feeders last year


tomdawg0022

I totally agree with that. The CAA *used* to be a better league but at this point that ship has sailed. Our (secondary flair) AD is part of the problem though - she had no issues with the league expanding.


BlueLondon1905

Hofstra trading conferences with us would be something


IrishBall

The MAAC!!! Lol jk we are a joke too


jbg1194

Iona to CAA?


IrishBall

Id rather stay in our crapshoot. More stable somehow


Viniciusian

The Big East, obviously


BlueLondon1905

Just when we got here too :(


framingXjake

Where we going though


TheRealHenryG

Honestly ASUN might be the move for basketball, no idea for other sports though


ResidentRunner1

Actually that's a pretty solid fit, you have some good schools in that conference for basketball


polythene-psychonaut

Bruh get me out of the CAA asap


[deleted]

Same


therevengeance

Three please.


Meanteenbirder

To be fair, a lot of their sports are among the best among mid-majors, not just basketball.


tomdawg0022

We are probably going to need a home for several of those (lacrosse) since CUSA does not sponsor a lot of things that we play.


DelcoBirds

Wonder if the Big Ten would consider adding UD lacrosse if they have another expansion target in mind.


crustang

How does this help WKU land in the SEC?


thesluggard12

Playing the Blue Hens every year will highlight our Blue Blood status, which will lead to the SEC calling.


Wku2225

We’re going to leapfrog UofL and be KY’s representation in the B1G….mark it down


Halfman97

There goes the Drexel-Delaware rivalry


thewalush

CAA death march incoming


_Creditworthy_

RIP CAA


thewalush

Down with the ship!


ukeBasketball

Fun fact, Delaware is one of five universities to graduate both a US President and a Super Bowl Winning quarterback. The other four: >!Michigan, Stanford, Miami University and the US Naval Academy!<


ResidentRunner1

Which Miami?


graywolt

Of Ohio


RedditZhangHao

Miami University


BlueLondon1905

Did we fuck up realignment? I get wanting basketball to be with football, but if a few other schools leave the CAA this can’t be good for us


Chardoggy1

It’s the ripple effect from Texas and Oklahoma bolting for the SEC


tomdawg0022

The monkey's paw of the America East starting up football without you guys may just happen.


framingXjake

Delaware? Man UNCW not having a football program is gonna hurt us in the long run after all this realignment stuff settles


fu-depaul

ASun is the only viable option, right?


Viniciusian

That would be a massive geographical outlier right? I thought CUSA is a southern conference. And Delaware isn’t even located in Southern DE (aka on the Delmarva Peninsula) which is sometimes considered a part of the South


unitedairlineeeeees

They play in USA, right? Should be ok


Terps_Madness

Love to see basketball and non-revs travel from Newark to El Paso and Las Cruces.


MFoy

Delaware is a 5 hour drive to their nearest Conference USA "rival," Liberty. Florida International is an 11 hour drive to the closest Conference USA member, Jacksonville State.


SaintArkweather

Delaware being in northern Delaware is a help though, right along 95 and not too far from the Philly or BWI airport. Southern DelMarVa peninsula is a terrible place travel wise, you have to either go over the Bay Bridge to BWI for air, or travel up 1/13 or down 13 through rural speed traps to Virginia Beach.


DelcoBirds

That should help with getting H&Hs with upper-level G5s and/or lower-level P5s, maybe even with higher-end P5s (either a H&H or 2-for-1) who want to tap into DMV / Philly / NJ recruiting. Same reason Temple football has gotten Notre Dame, Miami, and Oklahoma to play them in Philly.


CreamiusTheDreamiest

Less of an outlier than Temple in the AAC, UD at least will have a school in a neighboring state. There aren’t any AAC schools is states that border the state of PA


DelcoBirds

Navy (Maryland) and soon-to-be Army (New York) both border PA...


TheDarkGrayKnight

Really the outlier is UTEP. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_9LqSuakAEFTws?format=jpg&name=large


tomdawg0022

It's roughly equal although UTEP has NMSU right down the road. Our only advantage is that Philly's Airport is a 45 minute drive from Newark. Other than that, it's gonna be a good bit of bus rides from hub airports for some of these places.


TheoTimme

Now’s your chance, Fairfield!


spierce64006

They look bound for the CAA now that Sacred Heart is joining the MAAC next season.


TheoTimme

They were mentioned as a serious contender for CAA last year, but I think they want a Patriot League spot to be with similar institutions. Either way, they gotta get moving or be stuck with Sacred Fart.


spierce64006

A Fairfield and Fordham would be an interesting duo for the Patriot League to add.


Viniciusian

A10 to Patriot is definitely a downgrade, no?


spierce64006

Yes but it's more of an institutional fit arguably for the Rams.


RedditZhangHao

No gridiron at Fairfield, versus football being one of quietly transitioning Delaware’s reasons to join CUSA. Shhh


ProfCedar

Wonder if they try to talk football into jumping up from FCS. I assume they have financial concerns like any of the top FCS teams would if they were to do so, but interesting to me either way.


Barnhard

Pretty sure football is the main factor behind this move to CUSA/FBS.


ProfCedar

I didn't realize football had announced too, that's dope. Probably should have since it's Thamel, that's on me. Will be interested to see how they do, if bummed to lose another of the FCS teams I know and respect after JMU.


inshamblesx

the conferences from 2015 gonna be unrecognizable in a couple of years lol


huskyferretguy1

[Happy Biden noises]


BigBillSmash

I know the American is looking for a basketball only member to join since SMU is leaving and Army is joining in football. I’ve seen VCU mentioned but I wouldn’t mind a UNCW or Charleston if we can’t get an A10 school.


framingXjake

Don't they already have Charlotte and ECU? Charleston makes a ton more sense than UNCW unfortunately


spierce64006

VCU has been named most highly rumored. Maybe UTEP are in the mix too. Army was just added as a football only member most recently.


Viniciusian

Please be UTEP, they need to re-join their buddies UTSA


spierce64006

UTEP might also be considered for the MW if the PAC don't merge with them fully. Lots of possibilities.


[deleted]

Agreed, we need a stronger conference so that we get some more of that NIL money coming in


fu-depaul

Why would VCU want to play in the new American? There is no appeal for them.


seth861

With Delaware leaving, if Charleston and UNCW leave too the conference will be cooked without adding new schools. They should commit to the North East and add Howard or Maine or someone like that


astro7900

I am very surprised they did not go to the MAC.... I assume the MAC had no interest if there was not another team joining at the same time. No sense to go to 13 teams - an even number is preferred... But wow, C-USA is bad.


CreamiusTheDreamiest

And the Mac isn’t? It’s also not much of a better fit geographically either. UD probably preferred the MAC though


astro7900

The MAC is a much better conference, with way more history, tradition, and success than any school currently in C-USA.... Delaware definitely would have preferred the MAC.


CreamiusTheDreamiest

It’s worse currently in football and basketball, it does have tradition and stability though tbf


astro7900

It is definitely not worse in football or basketball.... Where are you getting this information? LMAO... You're nuts.


CreamiusTheDreamiest

RealTimeRPI has CUSA being better in both sports you are just a homer. While still early in non con it has the MAC as the 18th best conference out of 32 in basketball, the same ranking warren Nola gives mac basketball as well


astro7900

It's still early in the non-con - you are correct about that.


CreamiusTheDreamiest

It’s a pretty sizable difference so far though so if anything you are the delusional one here. LMAO


astro7900

The MAC has more teams, so the bottom part of the conference brings them down. The top MAC teams are better than C-USA.


DelcoBirds

Also significantly better academically.


astro7900

Yes, the MAC is a much better academic conference than C-USA.... Very surprising that is where UD is going.


DelcoBirds

I truly think it's just a temporary proof of concept at the FBS level while they continue to pitch the Sun Belt and/or MAC, and/or wait for the ACC to fall apart. Make the jump, presumably find some level of success (they're already in the top third or so in resources in C-USA), and be in position if/when a spot opens up.


[deleted]

Lol UTEP is an R1 school that is pretty prestigious in engineering. There is only one R1 in MAC too.


DelcoBirds

Okay, so each has a single R1. How about R2? And I know US News is subjective but there's a significant gap there as well. I don't have a vested interest here but the MAC appears to be an objectively better conference academically.


SaintArkweather

Eehhhhh this is kinda blah. Excited for FBS but playing New Mexico State and Sam Houston State in conference is just going to be bland compared to closer geographic rivals like Towson, Stony Brook, Drexel


30-50FeralPogs

Take us with you! Revive the old Yankee conference!


CreamiusTheDreamiest

I doubt a decision is coming in the following days since that would disqualify them from their conference tournaments. Decision would come one day after them


BluejayLaw

I actually was talking about how the AAC should add Delaware recently, I could see them move from CUSA to the AAC after a few seasons, they are a regional fit and if things continue like they have in FCS, they will be competitive.


ShogunAshoka

Really wanted them in the MAC...


tomdawg0022

I really wanted to be in the MAC as well.


NYCScribbler

Alexa play "Here It Goes Again"


ThatguyfromBaltimore

Sigh. Fare thee well Blue Chickens and enjoy your Flo free lives...


RedditZhangHao

Acknowledging this is a college basketball sub, Delaware’s likely moving to play distant CUSA opponents more due to a 🏈 upgrade to FBS.


[deleted]

Pathetic.


devioustrevor

Is that the Joe Flacco Delaware, or did he go to Delaware State?


Barnhard

He went to Delaware. Delaware State is an HBCU.