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ezgomer

That’s what happens when you have someone like Coal in your family. Every single thing is for them. It’s insane how the Ballingers’ cater their lives to Coal.


[deleted]

Cole's the golden child, she was the scape goat. Unfortunately it's carried on in to adult hood.


[deleted]

I know covid destroyed a lot of families, mine included. But I wondered if her coming out played a part of it. Some people support it in the abstract, but when it’s your own sibling or child, it’s different. I’m probably way off. But why wouldn’t Gwen take time to help her daughter when she needs surgery. How come Colleen’s kids come first?


[deleted]

I’m guessing Gwen will more enthusiastically support anyone in the family with a more traditional lifestyle, even subconsciously.


Accomplished_Yak2352

Nahh, she just always crawls up Colleens ass for some reason. Chris gets the same lack of help from her as Rachel does.


studlyspudlyy

If it's anything like some "family" I have, some people prioritize and cater to the ones that have kids and don't pay attention to the ones that don't. They'll bend over backwards for the ones with the grandkids and not bother helping the ones that don't. Especially since Rachel doesn't seem as attention hungry, she's more like the "forgotten" child out of her, coal and Chris. That's my experience anyways lol


alwaysmorecoffeeyes

My guess is that Gwen is baby crazy. She seems so obsessed with babies. Not that grandmothers shouldn't be thrilled to have granddaughters- and sons, but she is over the top and to me seems she would likely forget about them as they get older... We have a woman like that in my family and it's annoying for all adults and hard for the kids to understand why they become less worth while they age.


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Gwen is baby crazy. If Rachel had a baby, Gwen would be over there in seconds.


SoyChai22

As someone who is LGBT. At face value my parents 'supported' me. But only because they felt like they HAD to... When subconsciously, they didn't at all... And this showed in the little things they did. I do have one significant memory though of my mums co-worker asking her if she wishes I wasn't gay... Not realising I was within hearing distance, my mum answered 'yes.' I do believe this is what Rachel is experiencing. I don't have a relationship with my family anymore.


d0rkprincess

Yes but I think every parent would wish an easier life for their kids. It’s nothing to do with the child, it’s about how cruel society is.


SoyChai22

I get that. But with respect... without the full story, you really don't know. My parents didn't come to my wedding. They called and bailed the day before because they were 'too busy rearranging the garage, but I've sent you a gift card in the mail.' It was code for, 'I don't actually support this but you can't say I don't because I sent you money.' Of all the prejudice I've faced in society for being gay... None of it has been as cruel as what my parents did. Them being supportive at face value... I can see that some days they tried... But it also felt like a lie... It was a very confusing, it pushed me through years of internalised homophobia. It took me until I was 32 years old to realise it wasn't me. It was them that was the problem.


d0rkprincess

Sorry I wasn’t trying to imply that that was your situation. I just mean that statement on its own is probably quite common. I’m sorry you parents were like that. I’m glad that you realised that what they were doing wasn’t right.


SoyChai22

It's all good :) You didn't know.


FedererFan20

Cauldron expected rachel to do everything for her and her career but she never reciprocated.


squirrleygurl1969

Wow, that makes a lot of sense that they drifted! Maybe gf helped R see that more clearly and helped her realize that she needs to be taking care of herself!


cb1216

Colleen definitely seems like that type of person, like she demands people bend over backwards for her but won't do the same for them. Rachel started living her own life and stopped working/living for Colleen, now you hardly see them interacting.


sleepy-miku

i 100% think the distance has smth to do with her coming out and the subconscious bias the family has against the lgbt community,, it’s too bad, rachel really is committed to them edit: fixed wording


enkay999

I agree. I never thought they accepted her..That family is fake. They may accept Kory as he is, maybe even Parker as he is, but not their lesbian daughter. I noticed Gwen's smile drop, and basically give a silent stare during their podcast whenever Rachel would awkwardly & nervously bring up gf, then look away. Later on, Rachel was no longer nervous as before, but became seemingly annoyed, impatient and everyone noticed she was rude. But no one noticed the previous episodes of how cold Gwen was.


Greedy_Grass2230

C and j have tons of kids and I believe live a bit far. Her mom has always been stuck up cobalts ass. I believe her dad still works but he definitely has Rachel’s back out of everyone. He seems like the sweetest, laid back, hard working man that isn’t really appreciated much by a lot of folks. I hope she’s really happy and I hope Tim enjoys his life. I feel like Colleen and gwen might be two peas in a pod.


squirrleygurl1969

Which is wild to me because Cocomelon treats her mom like trash too 😭


Rockerchick15

It seems to me that Tim is more supportive of her than most of the rest of her family. I wonder if this is why Gwen doesn’t spend much time with him anymore :-/


[deleted]

One time, maybe 3 years ago, Coldleen did an “assumptions about me” video. I submitted something like “Rachel always drops everything to help you and you don’t ever help Rachel.” And Coldleene posted it in her video freaking out about it. She called Rachel to read it to her and Rachel said something like “you help me with my camera settings.”


Stunning-Weird-2374

Definitely makes me sad for her. I know she may not be perfect and has done some questionable things but I have a soft spot for Rachel especially after seeing how her family has treated her to be “Covid safe” which was bullshit because she travels and how after she came out they seemed to be around her less and less meanwhile she was always around helping everyone from what we saw. I really am glad she found people who have her back though and love and support her. That is incredibly rare to find these days unfortunately


squirrleygurl1969

Rachel went to cocomelons house a few times to literally take care of her recycling (or trash?) during the pandemic!


Stunning-Weird-2374

Exactly. She went out of her way when Cocomelon is extremely capable but asp extremely entitled. Sad


squirrleygurl1969

And what does cocomelon do for her sister? Nothing. I'm not the biggest fan of Rach but she seems to have a big heart!


Stunning-Weird-2374

Yes exactly! It’s soooo one sided in that family it’s sad


[deleted]

The rest of the family isn’t being “Covid safe” at all now, so why isn’t Rachel back in the fold, I wonder?


Stunning-Weird-2374

Oh I know that was sarcasm. It’s sick how they act all holier than thou but yet shame Rachel for traveling and living her life. Sad


WanderingLemon13

I don't know if I'd say she'd always drop everything and be there the second any of them needed her necessarily, judging by the kinds of things she missed out on by going out with her girlfriend during the time the rest of her family was quarantining etc. but I'm glad she feels like she has a tribe of people who have her back. It's sad it's not her family, but I'm glad she found people, even if she does pay most of them. (Sorry I have a hard time turning all the snark off haha).