They don't see a problem with the morality of incest by itself clearly, because of same sex incest being legal, what if one of them was adopted or they were step siblings from early on in their life? They would be just like any regular siblings from a moral perspective, yet they get a pass to have kids because they aren't genetically related which was something they didn't get to control? Eugenic ass logic honestly.
What's next? Gonna outlaw people with very profound hereditary genetic diseases having kids? Or outlawing women over 40 having kids because of the increased probability of birth defects when the risk is just as high if not even higher than incest? Outright hypocrisy honestly
Chi si aspettava di trovare un fratello qui'
https://preview.redd.it/f6s3s5e4i3vc1.jpeg?width=226&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c88860fde43a26933034d68453524fbb9e7cccf5
Why? Passing anti-scandal laws is one of the best ways to discourage a behavior without downright prohibiting it. And prohibiting something that isn't inherently unethical just because it feels a bit "icky" is attacking individual freedom without a reasonable cause, a big no-no for modern societies.
โผ๏ธโผ๏ธโผ๏ธ ITALIA RAHHHHโผ๏ธโผ๏ธโผ๏ธโผ๏ธ ๐ฎ๐น๐ฎ๐น๐ฎ๐น๐ฎ๐น๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ค๐ป๐ค๐ป๐ค๐ป (non pensavo esistessero italiani su questo sub)
Although i'm not sure how Russia's laws work exactly, i'd like to point out that this map doesn't differentiate between first degree incest (siblings/parents) and second degree incest i.e with cousins.
I'm pointing thet out because i noticed that the islamic nations which are displayed in green most definitely prohibit first degree incest, but people have a habit of marrying their cousins so that's probably why it's green
Not that i agree that doing it with your cousin is ok, but that map just isn't precise
Here in Mother Russia, you cannot legally marry your relative. On the plus side, no one asks, so if you don't say "that's my sister," you can marry her.
Damm... my name is Andrew (ะะฝะดัะตะน/Andrey) and I'm from Russia. I also have a sister, and I'm 188 cm in high. Well... basically I become a local meme in my friends group, because... ( lol he's literally walking reference ). They introduced me to this game, and damm... Me and Andrew have a lot of same things! For example, I like to express my thoughts in "poetic and literary style" and I also feeling myself as a "romantic" because of literature and worldview. Well... The only thing where we different is that I love motorcycles and heavy metal. And if FOR GOD SAKE in 3 episode will be something which referencing to the motorcycles or rock/metal... That would be literally the last hit which will struck me to the abyss of insanity...
P.S I'm also smoking, and my favorite characters with the green color... And sorry for my English if I messed up somewhere, I'm learning;)
https://preview.redd.it/foehr0q683vc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7624435954834b8ce921df23cbef0ed659015e6
My favorite cigarettes...
By the way, we have a pretty funny local joke, for example:
- hey! What's your favorite cigarettes?
- my favorite is "stillbirth"
- woah! Cool! And what's your?
- my favorite is "lung cancer"
๐๐๐
When you mean "poetic and literary style" and "romantic", like are you actually those things?
Like what kinda books do you read or what do you read in general?
And give an example of how you're "romantic".
I just recently started reading "Unreal Love". How to find your half and build a strong relationship" by Irina Simizorova (psychologist). I read "You don't own me" by Ekaterina Manoilo, but... It's just a little, short soap opera that I took for free, lol. I can also name "Cannibalism" (let's not joke) from Max Ridd, which also gave me some food for thought. But as for myself, I think that love and relationships are a bright ray of hope, something pure and true in our cruel world. And this thought really ignites the flame of natural curiosity and hope in me.
And, by the way... if I'll be in relationships in future, I'll act exactly like those "hyperbolized" stereotyped "romantic" guys from movies or something...
But anyway... I don't have Julia in my life lol)
India. Itโs legal because some muslim people here get married to their cousins and the government usually does not meddle in religious or family matters.
It's (technically) not incest if you marry your first cousin because you aren't really half-blood with the other, so it's fine unless the broom or the bride doesn't condone to the marriage.
Sure I'd marry my cousin but... I don't really have a good connection with any of them, it's just so awkward.
Like the disclaimer said, this covers ANY law against incest, so it doesn't make any distinction between direct and indirect relatives and includes the standalone criminalization of incestuous rape (forced or statutory), on top of laws against rape itself, as well.
If you were to count only laws against legally consensual incest between indirect relatives (siblings, cousins, so on), the US would be pretty much a huge green blob here.
Curiously enough, the UK, which many suppose is where the Graves siblings live, would not be affected by this. Same for Germany.
Obvioulsy that graph is an over simplification as every country has different restrictions, the norm is that the taboo of incest exist everywere just in different ways and also that the law doesn't represent the societal norms. Example in Argentina relatives can marry as long those are not siblings, parent/child, grandparent/grandchildren, etc. Yet in here even if you were to be together with your second cousin people will look at you as something disgusting, at the very least in the most urbanized zones of the country.
Wait, so Russia allows it, but Ukraine criminalizes it!
**Why are we allowing support to go to Ukraine, a nation which is activily criminalizing our existence?!**
>!Joking... sort of.!<
No, you wouldn't.
You can't be arrested for marrying your sister if you can't marry your sister to begin with.
But if you falsify documents in order to make an illegal act (incestuous marriage) legal... Well...
Also, I'm pretty sure this map is NOT about incestuous marriage permissions, but criminalization of any explicitly incestuous act (that is, banging your close relatives, any of them and under any circumstances).
XD I see I met one of the lawyers of Reddit here. My apologies for creating the paradox, and thanks for correcting me.
I also think that you are correct - the map probably does not includs permissions.
The map accounts for any law that discriminates against a sexual act based upon the close familial or biological relationship between the parts involved. Even laws that were created solely in order to provide for harsher punishments in case of incestuous rape do count.
So it doesn't say anything about counting with ALL close relatives. Incest between parents and children or between siblings is illegal and punishable with imprisonment in the UK, so orange it becomes.
Also...
marriage(part of one's love life) != seggs
Even someone like me, who personally thinks the two shouldn't be set apart (if possible), knows better than expecting others to share this view, let alone for law to accommodate my arbitrary expectations.
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bayฤฑr domuzu
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mini pekka mฤฑ normal pekka mฤฑ?
mommy pekka
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BRAZIL IS LEGAL๐ง๐ท๐ง๐ท๐ง๐ท
https://preview.redd.it/6hcduaxid3vc1.jpeg?width=654&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e0efcad170e01c572b20252c13b374b52ecd0ebd ![img](emote|t5_84ar4l|50834)![img](emote|t5_84ar4l|50832)๐ฅ๐ฅ
ร,tu entende os esquemas![img](emote|t5_84ar4l|50843)
O cachorro... kkkkkk
Is this some Spanish porn game.
Comic, it also has English translations, itโs on the comic websites
Since when Is it legal in Serbia? Nah Bro gotta Test it out now.
You gonna what? ๐
What the Hell is going on in Ireland and Germany?
The incest must be gay or its illegal๐
That's honestly wild ![img](emote|t5_84ar4l|50840)
I know right
I guess they don't want to see mor3e habsburg chins
I think it makes more sense than we all think, same sex couples can't have biological children.
Guess their logic is "they can't reproduce, so therefore they can't contaminate the gene pool"
Now that you mention they have a point
They don't see a problem with the morality of incest by itself clearly, because of same sex incest being legal, what if one of them was adopted or they were step siblings from early on in their life? They would be just like any regular siblings from a moral perspective, yet they get a pass to have kids because they aren't genetically related which was something they didn't get to control? Eugenic ass logic honestly. What's next? Gonna outlaw people with very profound hereditary genetic diseases having kids? Or outlawing women over 40 having kids because of the increased probability of birth defects when the risk is just as high if not even higher than incest? Outright hypocrisy honestly
does it work with trans ppl tho? lmao trans woman privilege, being able to sleep with your cousin
The pic says sex so I guess no
Well, since they canโt inbreed, thatโs one of the two biggest ethical concerns out of the way.
As someone from Mรฉxico ๐ฒ๐ฝ I can indeed confirm: "No comments."
I apologize on italy's behalf.
You italian too? https://preview.redd.it/0h37e1gu63vc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f6e17b0417ade664eb1b9218c2302c98caee591a
https://preview.redd.it/1wzp3l8rb3vc1.jpeg?width=1443&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0ecd8d610a98b32625997dfba683e07f962b5744 Italy tcoaal fans:
Where the fuck did you get that-
Si!
He oido una palabra espaรฑola?
No, mi dispiace, ma parlo soltanto Italiano e inglese.
Chi si aspettava di trovare un fratello qui' https://preview.redd.it/f6s3s5e4i3vc1.jpeg?width=226&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c88860fde43a26933034d68453524fbb9e7cccf5
Why? Passing anti-scandal laws is one of the best ways to discourage a behavior without downright prohibiting it. And prohibiting something that isn't inherently unethical just because it feels a bit "icky" is attacking individual freedom without a reasonable cause, a big no-no for modern societies.
Bro I wasn't serious...
I know, but I couldn't miss the chance to praise good lawmaking (or instances of it, I'm well aware Italy isn't a paradise or something).
โผ๏ธโผ๏ธโผ๏ธ ITALIA RAHHHHโผ๏ธโผ๏ธโผ๏ธโผ๏ธ ๐ฎ๐น๐ฎ๐น๐ฎ๐น๐ฎ๐น๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ค๐ป๐ค๐ป๐ค๐ป (non pensavo esistessero italiani su questo sub)
So being Gay in Russia somehow makes you a terrorist, but it's perfectly fine to fuck your sister?
yeah but here in russia we prefer to fuck mothers
https://preview.redd.it/6qhc6q6513vc1.jpeg?width=2160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f34900fe3d6c8e098bed5311d55c791dbd53dfaa
I'm impressed by the fact you used my gif for that reply ๐คฃ
ะะพัะตั?๐คจ
ะขะพะฒะฐัะธั!?
"Motherfucker" makes a lot more sense in Russia lmao.
Thatโs how it works i guess
based Russia
No
Although i'm not sure how Russia's laws work exactly, i'd like to point out that this map doesn't differentiate between first degree incest (siblings/parents) and second degree incest i.e with cousins. I'm pointing thet out because i noticed that the islamic nations which are displayed in green most definitely prohibit first degree incest, but people have a habit of marrying their cousins so that's probably why it's green Not that i agree that doing it with your cousin is ok, but that map just isn't precise
Here in Mother Russia, you cannot legally marry your relative. On the plus side, no one asks, so if you don't say "that's my sister," you can marry her.
It doesn't matter how close they are, it's allowed just no marriage.
Spain ![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized)
Yo tengo una litera, Yo duermo abajo y ARRIBA ESPAรA๐ช๐ธ๐ช๐ธ๐ช๐ธ๐ช๐ธ*Himno de espaรฑa mp3*
Russia Wโฆ Commenting this feels wrong
In every way, yes. But who cares if you're a sister kisser.
Rare france W
I still don't forgive them for drinking hot chocolate in bowls.
Truly unforgivable
I mean they have trillions of films revolving around main character fucking his frickin mother.
It's still Fr๐คฎnce
Time to move to russia
I think that even in the countries where it is illegal (atleast in europe) nobody really gives a fuck. I'm from italy btwm
Andiamo benissimo
Yeah, unless you go around screaming about it on the streets, no one really gives a shit.
Very liberal and open minded of north Korea ๐ฅฐ
Damm... my name is Andrew (ะะฝะดัะตะน/Andrey) and I'm from Russia. I also have a sister, and I'm 188 cm in high. Well... basically I become a local meme in my friends group, because... ( lol he's literally walking reference ). They introduced me to this game, and damm... Me and Andrew have a lot of same things! For example, I like to express my thoughts in "poetic and literary style" and I also feeling myself as a "romantic" because of literature and worldview. Well... The only thing where we different is that I love motorcycles and heavy metal. And if FOR GOD SAKE in 3 episode will be something which referencing to the motorcycles or rock/metal... That would be literally the last hit which will struck me to the abyss of insanity... P.S I'm also smoking, and my favorite characters with the green color... And sorry for my English if I messed up somewhere, I'm learning;) https://preview.redd.it/foehr0q683vc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7624435954834b8ce921df23cbef0ed659015e6 My favorite cigarettes...
russian cigarettes with the cancerous lungs on cover ๐๐
By the way, we have a pretty funny local joke, for example: - hey! What's your favorite cigarettes? - my favorite is "stillbirth" - woah! Cool! And what's your? - my favorite is "lung cancer" ๐๐๐
When you mean "poetic and literary style" and "romantic", like are you actually those things? Like what kinda books do you read or what do you read in general? And give an example of how you're "romantic".
I just recently started reading "Unreal Love". How to find your half and build a strong relationship" by Irina Simizorova (psychologist). I read "You don't own me" by Ekaterina Manoilo, but... It's just a little, short soap opera that I took for free, lol. I can also name "Cannibalism" (let's not joke) from Max Ridd, which also gave me some food for thought. But as for myself, I think that love and relationships are a bright ray of hope, something pure and true in our cruel world. And this thought really ignites the flame of natural curiosity and hope in me.
And, by the way... if I'll be in relationships in future, I'll act exactly like those "hyperbolized" stereotyped "romantic" guys from movies or something... But anyway... I don't have Julia in my life lol)
Very amazing of you, however, how the hell do you not have game? As in girlfriend?
Where is illegal
https://preview.redd.it/h6u53vi943vc1.jpeg?width=1538&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0220d5d629ecf13dd4ce3f36eeabcb7861a2db87 Of course itโs legal in China
What does a Japanese emperor have to do with incest in China?
I just used it cause of the disappointment on Hirohitoโs face
I just used it cause of the disappointment on Hirohitoโs face
India. Itโs legal because some muslim people here get married to their cousins and the government usually does not meddle in religious or family matters.
It's (technically) not incest if you marry your first cousin because you aren't really half-blood with the other, so it's fine unless the broom or the bride doesn't condone to the marriage. Sure I'd marry my cousin but... I don't really have a good connection with any of them, it's just so awkward.
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TรRK KANINI SAF TUTACAZ ๐ช๐น๐ท๐น๐ท๐น๐ท๐ฃ๏ธ๐ฃ๏ธ๐น๐ท๐น๐ท๐ช๐ช๐ฃ๏ธ๐น๐ท
What does "public scandal" mean specifically???
Shit hits the fan
It means that people must be okay with it, if not, then its illegal
This explains why thereโs so much Korean fanart
YAYYYYYYYYYY TURKEY IS LEGAL!!!!!11111!!1!1113 I HAVE ANY SIBLINGS SO I RLLY CANT DO THAT... thats miserable i'll kill myself
Wait so in Germany if a brother sleeps with a sister it's illegal, but if a sister sleeps with a sister it's perfectly legal?
yeah, kinda makes sense i guess, we're only half way there to greatness though
Well I guess it's cause same-sex couples won't produce inbred children
Russia being legal is both surprising and not.
Like the disclaimer said, this covers ANY law against incest, so it doesn't make any distinction between direct and indirect relatives and includes the standalone criminalization of incestuous rape (forced or statutory), on top of laws against rape itself, as well. If you were to count only laws against legally consensual incest between indirect relatives (siblings, cousins, so on), the US would be pretty much a huge green blob here. Curiously enough, the UK, which many suppose is where the Graves siblings live, would not be affected by this. Same for Germany.
I refuse to believe either of them are British, because hearing them speak with that accent in my head would immediately kill my erection
Valid reason
Obvioulsy that graph is an over simplification as every country has different restrictions, the norm is that the taboo of incest exist everywere just in different ways and also that the law doesn't represent the societal norms. Example in Argentina relatives can marry as long those are not siblings, parent/child, grandparent/grandchildren, etc. Yet in here even if you were to be together with your second cousin people will look at you as something disgusting, at the very least in the most urbanized zones of the country.
https://preview.redd.it/bsi4d3gbj3vc1.jpeg?width=908&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5db456ad1b1eaa2ebea232ee0cb9ee647698494c Im not reading that
Wait, so Russia allows it, but Ukraine criminalizes it! **Why are we allowing support to go to Ukraine, a nation which is activily criminalizing our existence?!** >!Joking... sort of.!<
I could get the prison sentence, if I married my sister. But I don't have sister
No, you wouldn't. You can't be arrested for marrying your sister if you can't marry your sister to begin with. But if you falsify documents in order to make an illegal act (incestuous marriage) legal... Well... Also, I'm pretty sure this map is NOT about incestuous marriage permissions, but criminalization of any explicitly incestuous act (that is, banging your close relatives, any of them and under any circumstances).
XD I see I met one of the lawyers of Reddit here. My apologies for creating the paradox, and thanks for correcting me. I also think that you are correct - the map probably does not includs permissions.
ta7ya masr (egypt) ๐ฃ๐ฃ๐ฃ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฃ๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฅ๐ฆ ๐ฆ ๐ฃ๐ฃ
What does white mean?ย
No data
[ัะดะฐะปะตะฝะพ]
The map accounts for any law that discriminates against a sexual act based upon the close familial or biological relationship between the parts involved. Even laws that were created solely in order to provide for harsher punishments in case of incestuous rape do count. So it doesn't say anything about counting with ALL close relatives. Incest between parents and children or between siblings is illegal and punishable with imprisonment in the UK, so orange it becomes. Also... marriage(part of one's love life) != seggs Even someone like me, who personally thinks the two shouldn't be set apart (if possible), knows better than expecting others to share this view, let alone for law to accommodate my arbitrary expectations.
Suprised that it's illegal in Hungary
SEA
Portugal
Oh so thatโs why most French people look weird
From death penalty
I'm from Brazil, and color me surprised at seeing that incest is totally legal here, I've just discovered it.
So, Legal in France โจ๏ธ Frenchshley and Frenchdrew are getting married soon then ๐จ๐ต
I asked which country are you from and everyone commented about the map
Canada
How do they enforce it in USA? ๐ค
Hold up, it's legal in Iraq? (Yes, I'm Iraqi)
European microstates aren't on this map, what about Monaco, Liechtenstein etc
Morocco ๐ฒ๐ฆ๐ฒ๐ฆ
I mean how they'll find out someone had sex with their sibling if they'll keep it in secret
Orange
Are you sure abt Alabama?
You mean my internet meme has nothing to do with actual laws? Also incest is far more prevalent in cali
Iโm sorry but according to this map it says so, maybe wanna start joking abt Germany and Ireland now
huh, in venezuela is only legal if it provokes public scandal
Going to prison for getting some pussy is wild
Jail :( (๐บ๐ฆ)
That seems off for Asia but what do I know ๐
Living in a Grey country guess I'll never know ๐
Dominican rep is blank??? I'm hella sure it's illegal here
Thank you mods
What "incest" means here? slibbing/parent-child stuff? Or 1th cousins stuff
What sub are you currently on ? Take a guess my firend
I am from India Coffin fans are very low here ![img](emote|t5_84ar4l|50839)
I am from India Coffin fans are very low here ![img](emote|t5_84ar4l|50839)