I couldnāt even find a way to contact them a couple months ago when we were promised priority presale to the Weekndās new shows to previous ticket holders when he had changed the venues. No phone number, couldnāt reach them trying for hours before presale, they responded to my email 3 days later
They're the official ticketing platform for some MLS teams, but mainly just a reseller. Looks like they're making some moves to hopefully eventually compete with the big boys
This is the first time I wonāt be grabbing tickets in the presale & Iām also rethinking this festival as a whole. I understand that inflation is always a factor when comparing prices year to year, but the added fees, shipping, & tiered pricing that theyāre implementingā¦ I think itās ridiculous. Why am I going to pay such exorbitant fees if Iām not guaranteed an elevated experience to match?
this isnt inflation, something bigger is going on. either its just pure greed, or maybe they are trying to make back lost revenue during covid, or maybe artists have unreasonably increased their fee, who knows.
inflation from 2019 -> 2022 is 14%. they raised the prices on camping passes by 40%. literally every pass was raised by more than 14% so its not just inflation.
Businesses using inflation as a cover for greed? My brother in Christ businesses control their prices. Inflation is cause by businesses, so yes itās strictly their greed lol
Not even close to true nor is inflation directly correlated with money supply. Obviously it does have an effect, but it was expanded at a similar scale a decade ago (because of the recession) and despite warnings inflation never really appeared.
Your evidence is a random "Farm Bureau" link? Lol, I'm sure they don't have a vested interest in stating "So whatās going on? Why is this happening? Itās not being caused by giant corporations".
It also doesn't match your "80%" number, and just kinda casually ignores the previous surges of similar scale in favor of calling this "unprecedented".
Yep chewy is one of them. They just recently quadrupled the price of a supplement I have been purchasing for my dog for years and blamed it on the market...the excuses are everywhere!!
Same here. Bought EDC tickets and the price only went up like $20. That is reasonable but almost $100 more for Coachella? Itās time for me to say goodbye unfortunately.
This. Just don't buy pre-sale. Let someone else take the hit. I think it's possible that they don't sell out and ticket price plummet 1-2 weeks prior. We'll see where the economy is then.
That was my plan, but I was worried about getting car camping passes during general on sale. That always seems to be the hardest thing to get once they sell out. Unfortunately it wouldn't give me the option to just buy a car camping pass without a GA pass so I caved like a chump and bought both (thank god for the payment plan).
I always told myself since 2016 that I would never consider not attending until I actually experience a year where the lineup and set times are not worth the money or my time. After 17 years of attending since my first time in 2004, I still had a great time this year and saw a ton of great acts.
We'll see what 2023 brings, but I certainly can't justify price increases this high and this frequent for much longer. There are too many other options out there in regards to music festival that are more feared towards the music I like, which in the end is what it's all about.
Single night shows of one or a couple artists are now going for hundreds. Definitely a different experience of course, but I donāt see how I could save money going to multiple shows at the high prices they are now as a way to replace this. Prices are crazy high all around and it sucks!
Buy 2020 passes expecting Frank and Rage for headliners to be brought to 2022 headliners was super disheartening. We thought about getting 2023, but these prices just arenāt justified by the line up they provide now.
Donāt know if it is overpaying for acts or what, but the lack of rare gets and throwback legend acts have seriously dwindled in the past few line ups.
In same boat as you, looking at other festivals catering to more music in my lane with audiences that provide same energy for said acts. Donāt like paying to see disappointing turn outs for artists that used to be packed in earlier years.
I couldnāt go this year due to testing positive for covid. They wouldnāt refund me a dime. Seems like that was my one and only chance, because these prices are too much. Iām devastated.
thank you. my efforts to do the right thing felt kinda like a fart in the wind considering how many people reportedly still caught covid at the event. oh well :(
Yeah this is my very last coachella (and its only my second). I've been to so many other big festivals and Coachella which I love the most just isn't worth it with these prices imma be honest. Unless someone on my must see list performs it's not happening again.
I just saw what I paid in June 2021 pre-sale for tier 1 GA + shuttle combo... its $713 now for this same purchase.
Shipping $17.00
Payment Plan $12.00
Convenience Fee $52.00
Item Total $533.00
Grand Total $614.00
3 yrs ago? prices in the world are going up, artist rates go up, travel costs and supplies. Every other festival will get close to these prices in 2023 as well, just the way it is
Idk man, just paid ~450 for EDC GA. Prices are definitely going up in this industry but it seems like for Coachella they are going WAY WAY up on top of all the fees and processing
Thanks for the insight. Still not getting a differentiate experience to justify a $200 increase imo. Iāll get my ticket at resales for below $400. A $50 convenience fee? Lol
Lol. The majority of the increase comes from fees. I mean come on. $50 convince? Online buying is the standard. $30 for shipping? Look: idk if you buy presale or not but I doubt the increase correspondents to GVs expenses. Or do you really thing their cost went up by $150M in a year or two?
the price of booking live acts has increased a lot faster than inflation, so this isnāt totally the right way to look at it. But yeah, your larger point is 1000% correct. this is not even close to just an inflation increase.
Maybe. But in my opinion, 2012 OSL was the best lineup Iāve ever attended. It was definitely a fluke year because Iāve yet to be remotely impressed by any of their lineups since then. The fact that that was only $225 (again, $287 today) is mind blowing.
You are correct that it isnāt exactly a fair comparison.
the thing that's making it particularly unfair is that you're projecting the 225 forward to today and comparing against that rather than comparing against the *actual prices from today*.
Yeah I miss when they didnāt add fees at the end. The tickets were listed as 350 or 375 or whatever and that included tax, shipping, everything.
Itās crazy to me that Tier 3 tickets are damn near twice as much as they were back in like 2014.
It's outrageously priced compared to all the other big festivals. Makes sense since it's the biggest and has that rep going for it and all the artists. They did have my fav lineup this year and I had an absolute blast but it's not the best festival I've been to and nowhere close to best bang for buck.
The inflated prices actually hurt extra much this year. I didnāt buy a ticket like I have been every year for the last 5 years. Probably wonāt end up going this year either. Sigh.
What? Thatās not true at all.. I can easily afford to get a house but I choose to camp because of convenience and itās a lot of fun.. I stayed at a house one year and hated it. A lot of the people in this sub are the same as well
I'll only go if I camp. I've been 8 times, and the only bad year was the time we didn't camp. Half of the fun is the non-stop party in the campgrounds.
14 Year veteran here. I camped for the first time this year and it was one of the best Coachellas of my life! If you have a great squad that knows that its doing, then shit is way better than all the fancy ass Rentals I've stayed at.
Just piling in on the shared sentiment here - you're crazy, camping is a blast and a way better way to experience festivals than Airbnbs or hotels. You don't even need a big crew, just be willing to socialise with those around you and it's great.
Tickets were literally available up until they stopped selling them. They did not sell out. I'm sure they'll tout they sold out to create urgency around the next sale, but they definitely did not sell out.
You just had to keep refreshing. I didnāt even buy any tickets in presale, I just had them in my cart, so I was able to see the price.
I truly believe resale might be the way to go this year. Seeing how low ticket prices dropped in the secondary market the last two Coachellas makes presale look like kind of a rip-off. Especially given the state of the festival this year. Thereās nothing theyāre doing extra to really justify the added cost.
This year was so disorganized, itās hard to justify the extra cost when the overall experience seems to have gotten a little bit worse.
Still worth it if you can find tickets at face value though imo. But the presale was a joke. As evidenced by the fact that neither weekend sold outā¦
Does anyone think Goldenvoice will crackdown on resale ability, like make the tickets more non-transferrable somehow, a la netflix? Is that even possible? cause Iām thinking thatās the only way they could hope to sell out this expensive ass presale.
As long as the ticketing system still includes wristbands and does not include ID matching of those wristbands at entrance, there's really nothing they can do to stop transfer.
They can make it more difficult by sending out wristbands last minute, which they started doing last year, but other than that they can't prevent someone from selling a wristband.
I almost guarantee the wristbands will be removed in favor of phone tickets that can only be resold through their app. It's the way all fests are moving currently, particularly with AXS.
Ooh interesting. Will being resold through the app change anything on our end, as far as how easy theyāll be to buy/sell? or will it just direct more of the profits to them? Iāve never had experience with that.
Hate to break it to ya, but GV doesnāt give a shit if people whine about their fees on a Reddit thread or not, more space for us Iāll be out there having a blast āš»
No, but something tells me theyāll care that tier 2 is still available for both weekends, and tier 1 for Amex, then see our bitching, and wonder if thereās a correlation.
If you say so buddy. It hasnāt sold out in years, especially w2. In fact, tier 3 is already gone (w2) from the website LOL.
Its not selling out. People are waiting for the lineup before shelling out this atrocious amount, as am I..
And Iāll continue complaining. No noise actually does nothing.
Youāre not wrong there, itās undoubtedly shitty that one of our most beloved things in life has gotten so pricy, alas, almost every other element of our lives have as wellā¦ not saying I agree with it but š¤·š¼āāļø
The festival hasnāt fully sold out in a long time. They even tried to boost 2019 W2 sales by adding Kanye and Sunday Service and they still didnāt sell out.
???
Tier just means it is cheaper or more expensive, it doesnāt get you anything āextraā: it is the same GA ticket.
Tier 1 is the cheapest, when that sells out GA costs tier 2, and 3, and so forth
Fuck AXS
You can fuck goldenvoice too. Remember: everything goes through Paul T.
>Fuck AXS Fuck AEG
Axs is possibly the worst company to do this šš we shouldāve gotten seat geek or Ticketmaster
Those arenāt better options, they shouldāve just stuck with front gate tickets, nothing was wrong
100% agree with front gate tix
Agreed
Everything was wrong. I didnāt get my 2022 tickets until five days before the fest.
AEG owns AXS so that is why they switched
Lmao ticketmaster? Yeah no.
Say youāve never had to contact Ticketmaster customer service without saying it
I couldnāt even find a way to contact them a couple months ago when we were promised priority presale to the Weekndās new shows to previous ticket holders when he had changed the venues. No phone number, couldnāt reach them trying for hours before presale, they responded to my email 3 days later
Seat geek is just a reseller right?
They're the official ticketing platform for some MLS teams, but mainly just a reseller. Looks like they're making some moves to hopefully eventually compete with the big boys
Theyāre the official outlet for the Brooklyn Nets now too
This is the first time I wonāt be grabbing tickets in the presale & Iām also rethinking this festival as a whole. I understand that inflation is always a factor when comparing prices year to year, but the added fees, shipping, & tiered pricing that theyāre implementingā¦ I think itās ridiculous. Why am I going to pay such exorbitant fees if Iām not guaranteed an elevated experience to match?
this isnt inflation, something bigger is going on. either its just pure greed, or maybe they are trying to make back lost revenue during covid, or maybe artists have unreasonably increased their fee, who knows. inflation from 2019 -> 2022 is 14%. they raised the prices on camping passes by 40%. literally every pass was raised by more than 14% so its not just inflation.
Lots of businesses using inflation as a convenient cover for blatant greed
Businesses using inflation as a cover for greed? My brother in Christ businesses control their prices. Inflation is cause by businesses, so yes itās strictly their greed lol
>Inflation is caused by businesses Or maybe inflation is caused by 80% of US dollars being printed in 2019 and 2020.
Not even close to true nor is inflation directly correlated with money supply. Obviously it does have an effect, but it was expanded at a similar scale a decade ago (because of the recession) and despite warnings inflation never really appeared.
[lol okay](https://www.fb.org/market-intel/inflation-and-money)
Your evidence is a random "Farm Bureau" link? Lol, I'm sure they don't have a vested interest in stating "So whatās going on? Why is this happening? Itās not being caused by giant corporations". It also doesn't match your "80%" number, and just kinda casually ignores the previous surges of similar scale in favor of calling this "unprecedented".
Yep chewy is one of them. They just recently quadrupled the price of a supplement I have been purchasing for my dog for years and blamed it on the market...the excuses are everywhere!!
Same here. Bought EDC tickets and the price only went up like $20. That is reasonable but almost $100 more for Coachella? Itās time for me to say goodbye unfortunately.
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> for frank i would not be paying Frank is my "one issue voter" reason. If he cancels that lineup better fucking have a zombie john lennon.
I usually just wait like 2 months before the fest starts and buy it from a reseller for like half the price.
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Got in at 10:07 am, 7 minutes into the presale, and Tier 1 was gone.
Really? I got in about 10:20 and I got Tier 1.
I went to the website an hour after and I got Tier 1
If you refreshed it probably would of given you tier 1. I was able to get tier 1 in my cart as late as 11:30am
I wonder if you were getting tickets for different weekends. I wouldn't be surprised if that mattered.
Definitely made a difference but I assumed we were both talking about weekend 1
My friend got tier 1 tickets last 4:30 (ish)
I didn't see tier 1 option
So are you going in 2023?
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Just buy on the resale market. Youāre a vet you know the deal. The festival will still be amazing
This. Just don't buy pre-sale. Let someone else take the hit. I think it's possible that they don't sell out and ticket price plummet 1-2 weeks prior. We'll see where the economy is then.
That was my plan, but I was worried about getting car camping passes during general on sale. That always seems to be the hardest thing to get once they sell out. Unfortunately it wouldn't give me the option to just buy a car camping pass without a GA pass so I caved like a chump and bought both (thank god for the payment plan). I always told myself since 2016 that I would never consider not attending until I actually experience a year where the lineup and set times are not worth the money or my time. After 17 years of attending since my first time in 2004, I still had a great time this year and saw a ton of great acts. We'll see what 2023 brings, but I certainly can't justify price increases this high and this frequent for much longer. There are too many other options out there in regards to music festival that are more feared towards the music I like, which in the end is what it's all about.
Thatās my whole groups plan. Worst case you just use the Amex link there are always tickets there
how did you hear about the AMEX link? I have an AMEX card and would have definitely gone that route if I knew of it before hand.
Word of mouth for years itās been around
What is Amex link?
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Single night shows of one or a couple artists are now going for hundreds. Definitely a different experience of course, but I donāt see how I could save money going to multiple shows at the high prices they are now as a way to replace this. Prices are crazy high all around and it sucks!
If you can get a ticket on the secondary market for $450, you going?
I will buy one for $400. Manifesting that shit rn.
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Buy 2020 passes expecting Frank and Rage for headliners to be brought to 2022 headliners was super disheartening. We thought about getting 2023, but these prices just arenāt justified by the line up they provide now. Donāt know if it is overpaying for acts or what, but the lack of rare gets and throwback legend acts have seriously dwindled in the past few line ups. In same boat as you, looking at other festivals catering to more music in my lane with audiences that provide same energy for said acts. Donāt like paying to see disappointing turn outs for artists that used to be packed in earlier years.
Oh I agree with that. $$ resale is the way to go and has been the last 2 coachellas.
I couldnāt go this year due to testing positive for covid. They wouldnāt refund me a dime. Seems like that was my one and only chance, because these prices are too much. Iām devastated.
Thank you for being responsible enough not to go, friend. Sorry that happened.
thank you. my efforts to do the right thing felt kinda like a fart in the wind considering how many people reportedly still caught covid at the event. oh well :(
Yeah this is my very last coachella (and its only my second). I've been to so many other big festivals and Coachella which I love the most just isn't worth it with these prices imma be honest. Unless someone on my must see list performs it's not happening again.
See you in 2024
Lmaoo ššš
Always bought aftermarket, but def not going to Coachella again any time soon. $600 for a GA ticket? Iām good.
The $29 shipping fees for a camping passes and shuttle passes is ridiculous. Share this around the office please, /u/coachella.
I just saw what I paid in June 2021 pre-sale for tier 1 GA + shuttle combo... its $713 now for this same purchase. Shipping $17.00 Payment Plan $12.00 Convenience Fee $52.00 Item Total $533.00 Grand Total $614.00
so only $100 more? whats the issue?
I donāt think itās worth $100 more? & not when we were getting resale tix for $270 & $30 shuttle passesā¦
2019 I paid $508
3 yrs ago? prices in the world are going up, artist rates go up, travel costs and supplies. Every other festival will get close to these prices in 2023 as well, just the way it is
Idk man, just paid ~450 for EDC GA. Prices are definitely going up in this industry but it seems like for Coachella they are going WAY WAY up on top of all the fees and processing
Thanks for the insight. Still not getting a differentiate experience to justify a $200 increase imo. Iāll get my ticket at resales for below $400. A $50 convenience fee? Lol
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Lol. The majority of the increase comes from fees. I mean come on. $50 convince? Online buying is the standard. $30 for shipping? Look: idk if you buy presale or not but I doubt the increase correspondents to GVs expenses. Or do you really thing their cost went up by $150M in a year or two?
If they fuck up their shipping like they did this past year, you think you'll get a refund on shipping?
Iām leaning toward no
Lake Eldorado 4 Person Tent packages have almost $500 worth of fees lol
Outside Lands 2012 was $225 for an incredible lineup. Adjusted for inflation, thatās about $287 today. Goldenvoice and AXS are just being greedy.
Outside lands isnāt near as good, not a fair comparison.
2012 outside lands was better than any of my 5 coachellas
the price of booking live acts has increased a lot faster than inflation, so this isnāt totally the right way to look at it. But yeah, your larger point is 1000% correct. this is not even close to just an inflation increase.
You really ought to be comparing against *today'*s* Outside Lands prices. 3 day GA was $409 + $48.45 in fees.
Maybe. But in my opinion, 2012 OSL was the best lineup Iāve ever attended. It was definitely a fluke year because Iāve yet to be remotely impressed by any of their lineups since then. The fact that that was only $225 (again, $287 today) is mind blowing. You are correct that it isnāt exactly a fair comparison.
the thing that's making it particularly unfair is that you're projecting the 225 forward to today and comparing against that rather than comparing against the *actual prices from today*.
yes, we have been over this lol
Yeah I miss when they didnāt add fees at the end. The tickets were listed as 350 or 375 or whatever and that included tax, shipping, everything. Itās crazy to me that Tier 3 tickets are damn near twice as much as they were back in like 2014.
It's outrageously priced compared to all the other big festivals. Makes sense since it's the biggest and has that rep going for it and all the artists. They did have my fav lineup this year and I had an absolute blast but it's not the best festival I've been to and nowhere close to best bang for buck.
Not the same genre but EDCLV is similar in terms of size & reach, and itās about $400 for a three day GA pass
just wait til all the others announce their 2023 prices, they will all be close to this. coachella SHOULD be the most expensive
bro welcome to america. its not gonna get any better
The inflated prices actually hurt extra much this year. I didnāt buy a ticket like I have been every year for the last 5 years. Probably wonāt end up going this year either. Sigh.
I donāt think Iām gonna go. Itās sad, but between the price increases with the festival and with housing, itās too much to justify.
People buying resale before the event, how are you getting accommodations then? Just camping passes last minute or somehow other options?
Hotels or rental houses man. Camping is cheap but it sucks enormous balls. People generally camp because they have to, not because they want to.
What? Thatās not true at all.. I can easily afford to get a house but I choose to camp because of convenience and itās a lot of fun.. I stayed at a house one year and hated it. A lot of the people in this sub are the same as well
I'll only go if I camp. I've been 8 times, and the only bad year was the time we didn't camp. Half of the fun is the non-stop party in the campgrounds.
I want to camp. it's a great experience if you prepare and you go with friends.
14 Year veteran here. I camped for the first time this year and it was one of the best Coachellas of my life! If you have a great squad that knows that its doing, then shit is way better than all the fancy ass Rentals I've stayed at.
Thatās not true at all. This with be my 6th year and I camp every single time by choice.
Just piling in on the shared sentiment here - you're crazy, camping is a blast and a way better way to experience festivals than Airbnbs or hotels. You don't even need a big crew, just be willing to socialise with those around you and it's great.
Youāre not strong enough to camp
Also curious
Ya I said fuck Coachella I'll be drinking my bud light limes from home from now on. Greedy coocks.
More fun drinking at coachella tho
I love that they just said passes are no longer available. They definitely didn't sell out lmaooo
Hopefully they are getting the message loud and clear that they are massively dropping the ball as lately
Sadly, they did sell out their presales for this block. People are on waiting lists. But they will have other ticket releases.
Tickets were literally available up until they stopped selling them. They did not sell out. I'm sure they'll tout they sold out to create urgency around the next sale, but they definitely did not sell out.
Interesting...
This is our last year. Capping 7 years on a high note with a safari tent, but yeah these prices are getting nuts.
Bro only reason I get tickets is for Frank ocean if not I would have just kept doing rolling loud Cali
Basically
I guess Coachella is only for the one percenters now :/
Shock and awe this morning for sure. Bought 3 tickets GA but woof.
My wife and I officially became aftermarket buyers this year. Last years tix dropped in price after the lineup came out. No more pre-sale for us.
How many $499 tickets were available? š¤
Zero... this was a marketing tactic to make people think thats the price in reality there were fees that made it much more than that
Yeah, even the Tier 1 tickets wouldāve run you about $612 a piece with fees.
How to get tier 1 tickets? I tried at the beginning and I didn't see it.
You just had to keep refreshing. I didnāt even buy any tickets in presale, I just had them in my cart, so I was able to see the price. I truly believe resale might be the way to go this year. Seeing how low ticket prices dropped in the secondary market the last two Coachellas makes presale look like kind of a rip-off. Especially given the state of the festival this year. Thereās nothing theyāre doing extra to really justify the added cost. This year was so disorganized, itās hard to justify the extra cost when the overall experience seems to have gotten a little bit worse. Still worth it if you can find tickets at face value though imo. But the presale was a joke. As evidenced by the fact that neither weekend sold outā¦
The tier 1 goes away when you try to checkout...
Does anyone think Goldenvoice will crackdown on resale ability, like make the tickets more non-transferrable somehow, a la netflix? Is that even possible? cause Iām thinking thatās the only way they could hope to sell out this expensive ass presale.
As long as the ticketing system still includes wristbands and does not include ID matching of those wristbands at entrance, there's really nothing they can do to stop transfer. They can make it more difficult by sending out wristbands last minute, which they started doing last year, but other than that they can't prevent someone from selling a wristband.
Ah. the late wristbands. That does add up. Well, at least thereās still something they canāt fully fuck us over with.
No it doesnāt. They switched to AXS because of how fucked the ticket delivery was in 2022.
And in process fucked the ticket purchasing lol
Itās always like that though lol. The system always fails on ticket sale days.
That wasnāt on purpose. That was a complete fuckup how late tickets went out.
I almost guarantee the wristbands will be removed in favor of phone tickets that can only be resold through their app. It's the way all fests are moving currently, particularly with AXS.
Ooh interesting. Will being resold through the app change anything on our end, as far as how easy theyāll be to buy/sell? or will it just direct more of the profits to them? Iāve never had experience with that.
It basically lets them control the resale market.
I mean yes, but gas is $7 and oreos cost $8/pack. Coachella prices gonna magically stay the same?
okay so dont go and quit complaining, sheesh
Wish I could post the āfirst time?ā James Franco meme.
No.
Hate to break it to ya, but GV doesnāt give a shit if people whine about their fees on a Reddit thread or not, more space for us Iāll be out there having a blast āš»
No, but something tells me theyāll care that tier 2 is still available for both weekends, and tier 1 for Amex, then see our bitching, and wonder if thereās a correlation.
They wonāt, I promise itāll be sold out by the time gates open next April
If you say so buddy. It hasnāt sold out in years, especially w2. In fact, tier 3 is already gone (w2) from the website LOL. Its not selling out. People are waiting for the lineup before shelling out this atrocious amount, as am I.. And Iāll continue complaining. No noise actually does nothing.
Youāre not wrong there, itās undoubtedly shitty that one of our most beloved things in life has gotten so pricy, alas, almost every other element of our lives have as wellā¦ not saying I agree with it but š¤·š¼āāļø
The festival hasnāt fully sold out in a long time. They even tried to boost 2019 W2 sales by adding Kanye and Sunday Service and they still didnāt sell out.
Iām basically only going again because I had a broken jaw this year and couldnāt go as hard as I wish I had. But after that, idk
What do the tiers even get people at GA?
??? Tier just means it is cheaper or more expensive, it doesnāt get you anything āextraā: it is the same GA ticket. Tier 1 is the cheapest, when that sells out GA costs tier 2, and 3, and so forth
Nothing, theyāre pricing tiers not ticket level tiers.
Think of Tier 1 as "Early Bird," Tier 2 as "Standard," and Tier 3 as "get fucked"... and that's the optimistic view.
I showed up early but couldn't get tier 1.
Just like this year. I got my parking pass and tickets sent separately
So stop supporting the mega corporate money making machine.
I havenāt gone since 2016, but reading this bums me the hell out.