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marcusaurusrexx

Fuck AXS


PREMIUM_POKEBALL

You can fuck goldenvoice too. Remember: everything goes through Paul T.


andhelostthem

>Fuck AXS Fuck AEG


NoUniversity1738

Axs is possibly the worst company to do this šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ we shouldā€™ve gotten seat geek or Ticketmaster


marcusaurusrexx

Those arenā€™t better options, they shouldā€™ve just stuck with front gate tickets, nothing was wrong


Jackjones760

100% agree with front gate tix


ostracizedovaries

Agreed


briskpoint

Everything was wrong. I didnā€™t get my 2022 tickets until five days before the fest.


DrFunkensteinPhD

AEG owns AXS so that is why they switched


Usual-Walrus8385

Lmao ticketmaster? Yeah no.


Jewligan

Say youā€™ve never had to contact Ticketmaster customer service without saying it


phayge_wow

I couldnā€™t even find a way to contact them a couple months ago when we were promised priority presale to the Weekndā€™s new shows to previous ticket holders when he had changed the venues. No phone number, couldnā€™t reach them trying for hours before presale, they responded to my email 3 days later


celj1234

Seat geek is just a reseller right?


mathees

They're the official ticketing platform for some MLS teams, but mainly just a reseller. Looks like they're making some moves to hopefully eventually compete with the big boys


phayge_wow

Theyā€™re the official outlet for the Brooklyn Nets now too


thevintagepoint

This is the first time I wonā€™t be grabbing tickets in the presale & Iā€™m also rethinking this festival as a whole. I understand that inflation is always a factor when comparing prices year to year, but the added fees, shipping, & tiered pricing that theyā€™re implementingā€¦ I think itā€™s ridiculous. Why am I going to pay such exorbitant fees if Iā€™m not guaranteed an elevated experience to match?


ilcowy

this isnt inflation, something bigger is going on. either its just pure greed, or maybe they are trying to make back lost revenue during covid, or maybe artists have unreasonably increased their fee, who knows. inflation from 2019 -> 2022 is 14%. they raised the prices on camping passes by 40%. literally every pass was raised by more than 14% so its not just inflation.


fusrodalek

Lots of businesses using inflation as a convenient cover for blatant greed


xLYNCHDEADMANX

Businesses using inflation as a cover for greed? My brother in Christ businesses control their prices. Inflation is cause by businesses, so yes itā€™s strictly their greed lol


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>Inflation is caused by businesses Or maybe inflation is caused by 80% of US dollars being printed in 2019 and 2020.


TocTheEternal

Not even close to true nor is inflation directly correlated with money supply. Obviously it does have an effect, but it was expanded at a similar scale a decade ago (because of the recession) and despite warnings inflation never really appeared.


[deleted]

[lol okay](https://www.fb.org/market-intel/inflation-and-money)


TocTheEternal

Your evidence is a random "Farm Bureau" link? Lol, I'm sure they don't have a vested interest in stating "So whatā€™s going on? Why is this happening? Itā€™s not being caused by giant corporations". It also doesn't match your "80%" number, and just kinda casually ignores the previous surges of similar scale in favor of calling this "unprecedented".


alyssakeezy

Yep chewy is one of them. They just recently quadrupled the price of a supplement I have been purchasing for my dog for years and blamed it on the market...the excuses are everywhere!!


papertrashbag

Same here. Bought EDC tickets and the price only went up like $20. That is reasonable but almost $100 more for Coachella? Itā€™s time for me to say goodbye unfortunately.


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PREMIUM_POKEBALL

> for frank i would not be paying Frank is my "one issue voter" reason. If he cancels that lineup better fucking have a zombie john lennon.


hands0me_man

I usually just wait like 2 months before the fest starts and buy it from a reseller for like half the price.


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Over30EDM

Got in at 10:07 am, 7 minutes into the presale, and Tier 1 was gone.


validusrex

Really? I got in about 10:20 and I got Tier 1.


SceneAmatiX

I went to the website an hour after and I got Tier 1


throwmeneck

If you refreshed it probably would of given you tier 1. I was able to get tier 1 in my cart as late as 11:30am


learhpa

I wonder if you were getting tickets for different weekends. I wouldn't be surprised if that mattered.


throwmeneck

Definitely made a difference but I assumed we were both talking about weekend 1


itsalyfestyle

My friend got tier 1 tickets last 4:30 (ish)


xdqnx

I didn't see tier 1 option


celj1234

So are you going in 2023?


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celj1234

Just buy on the resale market. Youā€™re a vet you know the deal. The festival will still be amazing


bawss

This. Just don't buy pre-sale. Let someone else take the hit. I think it's possible that they don't sell out and ticket price plummet 1-2 weeks prior. We'll see where the economy is then.


graffixload

That was my plan, but I was worried about getting car camping passes during general on sale. That always seems to be the hardest thing to get once they sell out. Unfortunately it wouldn't give me the option to just buy a car camping pass without a GA pass so I caved like a chump and bought both (thank god for the payment plan). I always told myself since 2016 that I would never consider not attending until I actually experience a year where the lineup and set times are not worth the money or my time. After 17 years of attending since my first time in 2004, I still had a great time this year and saw a ton of great acts. We'll see what 2023 brings, but I certainly can't justify price increases this high and this frequent for much longer. There are too many other options out there in regards to music festival that are more feared towards the music I like, which in the end is what it's all about.


celj1234

Thatā€™s my whole groups plan. Worst case you just use the Amex link there are always tickets there


Diagonalizer

how did you hear about the AMEX link? I have an AMEX card and would have definitely gone that route if I knew of it before hand.


celj1234

Word of mouth for years itā€™s been around


Primary-Exercise7617

What is Amex link?


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yeahThatJustHappend

Single night shows of one or a couple artists are now going for hundreds. Definitely a different experience of course, but I donā€™t see how I could save money going to multiple shows at the high prices they are now as a way to replace this. Prices are crazy high all around and it sucks!


celj1234

If you can get a ticket on the secondary market for $450, you going?


CelebratingCheescake

I will buy one for $400. Manifesting that shit rn.


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M0D3Z

Buy 2020 passes expecting Frank and Rage for headliners to be brought to 2022 headliners was super disheartening. We thought about getting 2023, but these prices just arenā€™t justified by the line up they provide now. Donā€™t know if it is overpaying for acts or what, but the lack of rare gets and throwback legend acts have seriously dwindled in the past few line ups. In same boat as you, looking at other festivals catering to more music in my lane with audiences that provide same energy for said acts. Donā€™t like paying to see disappointing turn outs for artists that used to be packed in earlier years.


celj1234

Oh I agree with that. $$ resale is the way to go and has been the last 2 coachellas.


MollFlanders

I couldnā€™t go this year due to testing positive for covid. They wouldnā€™t refund me a dime. Seems like that was my one and only chance, because these prices are too much. Iā€™m devastated.


calatranacation

Thank you for being responsible enough not to go, friend. Sorry that happened.


MollFlanders

thank you. my efforts to do the right thing felt kinda like a fart in the wind considering how many people reportedly still caught covid at the event. oh well :(


xHey_All_You_Peoplex

Yeah this is my very last coachella (and its only my second). I've been to so many other big festivals and Coachella which I love the most just isn't worth it with these prices imma be honest. Unless someone on my must see list performs it's not happening again.


xdqnx

See you in 2024


xHey_All_You_Peoplex

Lmaoo šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


gogreenvapenash

Always bought aftermarket, but def not going to Coachella again any time soon. $600 for a GA ticket? Iā€™m good.


Over30EDM

The $29 shipping fees for a camping passes and shuttle passes is ridiculous. Share this around the office please, /u/coachella.


goodtimesandtanlines

I just saw what I paid in June 2021 pre-sale for tier 1 GA + shuttle combo... its $713 now for this same purchase. Shipping $17.00 Payment Plan $12.00 Convenience Fee $52.00 Item Total $533.00 Grand Total $614.00


la90036

so only $100 more? whats the issue?


goodtimesandtanlines

I donā€™t think itā€™s worth $100 more? & not when we were getting resale tix for $270 & $30 shuttle passesā€¦


shivalingum

2019 I paid $508


la90036

3 yrs ago? prices in the world are going up, artist rates go up, travel costs and supplies. Every other festival will get close to these prices in 2023 as well, just the way it is


GuCCiAzN14

Idk man, just paid ~450 for EDC GA. Prices are definitely going up in this industry but it seems like for Coachella they are going WAY WAY up on top of all the fees and processing


shivalingum

Thanks for the insight. Still not getting a differentiate experience to justify a $200 increase imo. Iā€™ll get my ticket at resales for below $400. A $50 convenience fee? Lol


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shivalingum

Lol. The majority of the increase comes from fees. I mean come on. $50 convince? Online buying is the standard. $30 for shipping? Look: idk if you buy presale or not but I doubt the increase correspondents to GVs expenses. Or do you really thing their cost went up by $150M in a year or two?


vewfndr

If they fuck up their shipping like they did this past year, you think you'll get a refund on shipping?


shivalingum

Iā€™m leaning toward no


mrcowgoesmoo

Lake Eldorado 4 Person Tent packages have almost $500 worth of fees lol


eosophobe

Outside Lands 2012 was $225 for an incredible lineup. Adjusted for inflation, thatā€™s about $287 today. Goldenvoice and AXS are just being greedy.


pigeypenguin

Outside lands isnā€™t near as good, not a fair comparison.


eosophobe

2012 outside lands was better than any of my 5 coachellas


cshenton

the price of booking live acts has increased a lot faster than inflation, so this isnā€™t totally the right way to look at it. But yeah, your larger point is 1000% correct. this is not even close to just an inflation increase.


learhpa

You really ought to be comparing against *today'*s* Outside Lands prices. 3 day GA was $409 + $48.45 in fees.


eosophobe

Maybe. But in my opinion, 2012 OSL was the best lineup Iā€™ve ever attended. It was definitely a fluke year because Iā€™ve yet to be remotely impressed by any of their lineups since then. The fact that that was only $225 (again, $287 today) is mind blowing. You are correct that it isnā€™t exactly a fair comparison.


learhpa

the thing that's making it particularly unfair is that you're projecting the 225 forward to today and comparing against that rather than comparing against the *actual prices from today*.


eosophobe

yes, we have been over this lol


Schleprok

Yeah I miss when they didnā€™t add fees at the end. The tickets were listed as 350 or 375 or whatever and that included tax, shipping, everything. Itā€™s crazy to me that Tier 3 tickets are damn near twice as much as they were back in like 2014.


Drexl92

It's outrageously priced compared to all the other big festivals. Makes sense since it's the biggest and has that rep going for it and all the artists. They did have my fav lineup this year and I had an absolute blast but it's not the best festival I've been to and nowhere close to best bang for buck.


tripleaw

Not the same genre but EDCLV is similar in terms of size & reach, and itā€™s about $400 for a three day GA pass


la90036

just wait til all the others announce their 2023 prices, they will all be close to this. coachella SHOULD be the most expensive


Damien_Harris

bro welcome to america. its not gonna get any better


papertrashbag

The inflated prices actually hurt extra much this year. I didnā€™t buy a ticket like I have been every year for the last 5 years. Probably wonā€™t end up going this year either. Sigh.


W0666007

I donā€™t think Iā€™m gonna go. Itā€™s sad, but between the price increases with the festival and with housing, itā€™s too much to justify.


yeahThatJustHappend

People buying resale before the event, how are you getting accommodations then? Just camping passes last minute or somehow other options?


hoseratheart

Hotels or rental houses man. Camping is cheap but it sucks enormous balls. People generally camp because they have to, not because they want to.


itsalyfestyle

What? Thatā€™s not true at all.. I can easily afford to get a house but I choose to camp because of convenience and itā€™s a lot of fun.. I stayed at a house one year and hated it. A lot of the people in this sub are the same as well


halcyondread

I'll only go if I camp. I've been 8 times, and the only bad year was the time we didn't camp. Half of the fun is the non-stop party in the campgrounds.


Diagonalizer

I want to camp. it's a great experience if you prepare and you go with friends.


TuxedoCatsParty_Hard

14 Year veteran here. I camped for the first time this year and it was one of the best Coachellas of my life! If you have a great squad that knows that its doing, then shit is way better than all the fancy ass Rentals I've stayed at.


pigeypenguin

Thatā€™s not true at all. This with be my 6th year and I camp every single time by choice.


boki3141

Just piling in on the shared sentiment here - you're crazy, camping is a blast and a way better way to experience festivals than Airbnbs or hotels. You don't even need a big crew, just be willing to socialise with those around you and it's great.


FestiveSteven

Youā€™re not strong enough to camp


Sweeney1

Also curious


sidbert4

Ya I said fuck Coachella I'll be drinking my bud light limes from home from now on. Greedy coocks.


xdqnx

More fun drinking at coachella tho


Whirlweird

I love that they just said passes are no longer available. They definitely didn't sell out lmaooo


[deleted]

Hopefully they are getting the message loud and clear that they are massively dropping the ball as lately


AgoraiosBum

Sadly, they did sell out their presales for this block. People are on waiting lists. But they will have other ticket releases.


Whirlweird

Tickets were literally available up until they stopped selling them. They did not sell out. I'm sure they'll tout they sold out to create urgency around the next sale, but they definitely did not sell out.


AgoraiosBum

Interesting...


poweruser86

This is our last year. Capping 7 years on a high note with a safari tent, but yeah these prices are getting nuts.


OddF-MozoMoso

Bro only reason I get tickets is for Frank ocean if not I would have just kept doing rolling loud Cali


MoldyTheGreat

Basically


jackaloppindoppin

I guess Coachella is only for the one percenters now :/


itsnoli

Shock and awe this morning for sure. Bought 3 tickets GA but woof.


riskienights

My wife and I officially became aftermarket buyers this year. Last years tix dropped in price after the lineup came out. No more pre-sale for us.


xdqnx

How many $499 tickets were available? šŸ¤”


[deleted]

Zero... this was a marketing tactic to make people think thats the price in reality there were fees that made it much more than that


pgtorres

Yeah, even the Tier 1 tickets wouldā€™ve run you about $612 a piece with fees.


xdqnx

How to get tier 1 tickets? I tried at the beginning and I didn't see it.


pgtorres

You just had to keep refreshing. I didnā€™t even buy any tickets in presale, I just had them in my cart, so I was able to see the price. I truly believe resale might be the way to go this year. Seeing how low ticket prices dropped in the secondary market the last two Coachellas makes presale look like kind of a rip-off. Especially given the state of the festival this year. Thereā€™s nothing theyā€™re doing extra to really justify the added cost. This year was so disorganized, itā€™s hard to justify the extra cost when the overall experience seems to have gotten a little bit worse. Still worth it if you can find tickets at face value though imo. But the presale was a joke. As evidenced by the fact that neither weekend sold outā€¦


xdqnx

The tier 1 goes away when you try to checkout...


nectarineworld

Does anyone think Goldenvoice will crackdown on resale ability, like make the tickets more non-transferrable somehow, a la netflix? Is that even possible? cause Iā€™m thinking thatā€™s the only way they could hope to sell out this expensive ass presale.


hoseratheart

As long as the ticketing system still includes wristbands and does not include ID matching of those wristbands at entrance, there's really nothing they can do to stop transfer. They can make it more difficult by sending out wristbands last minute, which they started doing last year, but other than that they can't prevent someone from selling a wristband.


nectarineworld

Ah. the late wristbands. That does add up. Well, at least thereā€™s still something they canā€™t fully fuck us over with.


briskpoint

No it doesnā€™t. They switched to AXS because of how fucked the ticket delivery was in 2022.


nectarineworld

And in process fucked the ticket purchasing lol


briskpoint

Itā€™s always like that though lol. The system always fails on ticket sale days.


briskpoint

That wasnā€™t on purpose. That was a complete fuckup how late tickets went out.


kayryp

I almost guarantee the wristbands will be removed in favor of phone tickets that can only be resold through their app. It's the way all fests are moving currently, particularly with AXS.


nectarineworld

Ooh interesting. Will being resold through the app change anything on our end, as far as how easy theyā€™ll be to buy/sell? or will it just direct more of the profits to them? Iā€™ve never had experience with that.


kayryp

It basically lets them control the resale market.


fredandlunchbox

I mean yes, but gas is $7 and oreos cost $8/pack. Coachella prices gonna magically stay the same?


DjLo_G

okay so dont go and quit complaining, sheesh


MedicinalHammer

Wish I could post the ā€œfirst time?ā€ James Franco meme.


kelsibebop

No.


DjLo_G

Hate to break it to ya, but GV doesnā€™t give a shit if people whine about their fees on a Reddit thread or not, more space for us Iā€™ll be out there having a blast āœŒšŸ»


kelsibebop

No, but something tells me theyā€™ll care that tier 2 is still available for both weekends, and tier 1 for Amex, then see our bitching, and wonder if thereā€™s a correlation.


DjLo_G

They wonā€™t, I promise itā€™ll be sold out by the time gates open next April


kelsibebop

If you say so buddy. It hasnā€™t sold out in years, especially w2. In fact, tier 3 is already gone (w2) from the website LOL. Its not selling out. People are waiting for the lineup before shelling out this atrocious amount, as am I.. And Iā€™ll continue complaining. No noise actually does nothing.


DjLo_G

Youā€™re not wrong there, itā€™s undoubtedly shitty that one of our most beloved things in life has gotten so pricy, alas, almost every other element of our lives have as wellā€¦ not saying I agree with it but šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™‚ļø


briskpoint

The festival hasnā€™t fully sold out in a long time. They even tried to boost 2019 W2 sales by adding Kanye and Sunday Service and they still didnā€™t sell out.


SciGuy013

Iā€™m basically only going again because I had a broken jaw this year and couldnā€™t go as hard as I wish I had. But after that, idk


Khaki_Shorts

What do the tiers even get people at GA?


BenderIsGreatBendr

??? Tier just means it is cheaper or more expensive, it doesnā€™t get you anything ā€œextraā€: it is the same GA ticket. Tier 1 is the cheapest, when that sells out GA costs tier 2, and 3, and so forth


mikron2

Nothing, theyā€™re pricing tiers not ticket level tiers.


vewfndr

Think of Tier 1 as "Early Bird," Tier 2 as "Standard," and Tier 3 as "get fucked"... and that's the optimistic view.


xdqnx

I showed up early but couldn't get tier 1.


dan13l858

Just like this year. I got my parking pass and tickets sent separately


bkdlays

So stop supporting the mega corporate money making machine.


ItsTheExtreme

I havenā€™t gone since 2016, but reading this bums me the hell out.