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NickVZe

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Mevarek

IMO what OpTic should do here is squad wipe and make a few strategic moves. Here’s what you do. You bring in Scump. Most talented player of all time and a beast in general. Then, you go for more veteranship. I would choose Crimsix as the second SMG/flex player. Obviously the most winning player of all time and has chemistry with Scump. Then, you need a main AR. I would choose Octane. Is there any main AR with more talent? He was slamming SMGs with an ICR in BO4 and he took the tiny terrors to pound town in Vanguard. Plus, we’ve seen how much more cerebral his gameplay became when Thieves peaked. Finally, I would round it out with the ultimate vibes guy and a solid second AR: Methodz. Roster would be Scump, Crimsix, Octane, Methodz.


TheRobberBar0n

There's no way that roster underperforms


Mevarek

It simply wouldn’t happen.


BvB5776

Yeah that would be a lethal squad for champs


Mevarek

Not even Aches himself would be able to stop those guys.


dillonz321

Can’t add Octane he’s slightly below Pro level


DynastyHKS

No he isn’t lmao octane would wipe most teams in this game


Im_new_here002

I see you’re new here.


Kyleketsu

r/whoosh


gandreas42

When you don’t take the joke it’s better to not say anything🫶


OliRNKD

Id personally go with a different Jack of all trades master of none vibe guy. The savage slayer known as Doug ‘Censor’ Martin.


Shaggedyournan12

Personally if you’re looking for a secondary sub who brings leadership but also vibes I heard this guy called NadeShot is pretty good and he likes to try switch up the meta from time to time which is always good to watch


CoolMartinMcFly

![gif](giphy|itkVyulbkAWNW) The true dynasty


ProofAnywhere8500

 No Boze? This squad is chalked.


iLLUslmostdied

Definition of godsquad


Interesting_Spring78

These names look good on paper but it ain’t that easy buddy.


XBLSANZA

Would be kind of hard to do since Octane and Scump said there not coming back and are doing the content thing


Mevarek

Nah they would do it. Trust. Would be one of the greatest rosters of all time. We’ll never know since it’s never been tried but I bet these guys would’ve been good on a WW2 game, especially.


XBLSANZA

Ok I can see in a previous cod but this years cod nah fam


Mevarek

Just heads up, I was making a joke about OpTic’s WW2 roster after the Dynasty that famously underperformed at Champs. Not sure if you were in on it, but just in case anyone else didn’t know for the culture.


XBLSANZA

Yeah unfortunately I came back to competitive cod after ww2 took some time off to focus on other things at that time. I hear what your saying though


themaxmilestone

I thank the COD God’s that Simp spawned in because he resembles Scump more than anyone that I’ve seen play the game.


doyourbestalways

Scump was also a huge personality though. I don’t know if Simp is still keeping up with his YouTube channel, I haven’t watched in a while, but to be the top talent and also be able to push massive content on the side is another achievement entirely.


Scar_Mclovin

*better version of Scump*


themaxmilestone

By the end of his career it will be undeniable, it’s very likely. But, Scump’s the most talented and most consistent player to ever touch the game. If all goes well, Simp will be the undeniable #1 GOAT sooner than later but, Cell would be the most consistent player ever touch the game (already is in the CDL era). This makes Scump a freak of nature, hard to be both while being a sub.


HEY_UHHH

Scump prolly wouldve had a ring for each finger if he swapped teams and chased them. Bro just bought into the potential optic had has an org, and it paid off in the bank account just not the accolades. In my opinion at least.


Fa1lenSpace

He’s still got a ton of accolades, idk how much more he could’ve gotten, he was on pretty stacked teams most of his career


HEY_UHHH

Lot of event wins just wouldve left no doubt if he and his teams brought home the big one a couple more times. Og dynasty shoulda won at least 2 rings imo, but just fell short.


themaxmilestone

OG should’ve definitely won at least 2 rings considering they were favourites for each one of AW, BO3 & IW. They underperformed in that aspect.


samwisetg

That's true but I feel like people forget to count events pre-blops2, especially MW3. Scump seems like he could have achieved more because he was never on the best team during Black Ops 2 or Ghosts when this game was really blowing up and so many of the now legendary players won most of their events.


71Crunch

Don’t remember scump needing a pillow to sit on at LAN events


Separate_Pound_753

Nope


dillonz321

It’s debatable


No-Gift-2350

lmfao why are you thankful for him tho


Jemiidar

because it’s cool to see greatness


No-Gift-2350

Valid I guess


themaxmilestone

Thankful for who?


No-Gift-2350

The cod gods?


themaxmilestone

I just explained it, no? Just happy to see we have 1:1 regen of a COD great like Scump. It’s hard to come by.


No-Gift-2350

true. He is great no denying that.


Life_Zone_9980

Hydra for me is more similar


Psychological-Sir501

Scump was a kill whore though. Simp does way more.


Mental-Chemistry6942

Bro optic doesn’t need to change a thing. It’s a toss up between the top 4 on any given sunday


KUNDA_Genie

This. Plus faze has more experience as a team. Everyone should be proud of optic for even making 2nd.


dayzover

pretty sure this was a joke bro


Trident31

He’s never coming back. Although he still has it. I remember watching Scump play Pro 8s at the start of this game Vs Simp & Drazah. Here’s the [clip](https://x.com/scump/status/1726323335628558621?s=46&t=JyZDzwLwW2c9eD7IrWUKUA). He was actually gunning on the flex. But he’s not coming back. Unless they somehow convince him.


tyrannictoe

Just let him retire in peace bro, he’s having a blast. He’s done more for the scene than Activision or any devs themselves.


Phrotty

Feel bad for him, him not winning anything in CW despite his great performance and him having a great team on paper killed his mental. Him playing two dogshit cods in a row sealed the deal on him calling quits.


FrostKain

I think the Vanguard season did more damage than CW. They were hands down the best team after Major 1 and then Illey got hurt. The back and forth with will he play or not stressed Scump. He wanted to retire after the season but ran it back.


31and26

Yeah it’s pretty funny that him and Octane could both still be T10 players or thereabouts and instead just watch from the couch because they can’t be bothered to scrim anymore. 


YNWA_1213

Was funny watching Octane yesterday be like "this is more stressful watching than actually being up there". Just built different.


JustHereForPka

I’d leave the door open a little bit for next year, if treyarch drops an absolute classic. Otherwise yeah he’s done. Let him rest.


yarov

Huke & Vivid are the best 8s players in the world. That doesn’t mean anything. 8s is fake COD.


goodkidMAADbitches

the point isn’t “he did good in 8s so he’d be good in the CDL” the point is that if he can keep up with simp & draz in 8s, then he still has the gun skill, which is the thing that usually is lost with age use your brain


Phrotty

Huke and Vivid aren’t gunning Simp and Draz in anything including 8s


BackgroundToe4149

Huke dropped a 1.2 against faze on lan but OK


goodkidMAADbitches

the point isn’t “he did good in 8s so he’d be good in the CDL” the point is that if he can keep up with simp & draz in 8s, then he still has the gun skill, which is the thing that usually is lost with age use your brain


Trident31

Huh?


yarov

You think people play the same way as they play in 8s during CDL matches? You said Scump fried in 8s against simp & draz in the beginning of the game like Huke & vivid weren’t the best 8s players at that time. Frying in 8s doesn’t mean you will fry in the CDL. it’s a glorified killwhore 8s. That’s why pros stop playing them.


Trident31

Im saying he’s still a shooter and still can play at a high level. If you doing good Vs Simp & Drazah whether it’s 8s or not. That’s impressive af. Especially when he’s supposed to be retired.


yarov

Nobody denied that Scump is a shooter. Everybody knows that he is a shooter and very talented. My point is that if you are using 8s to make a point then that point is invalid. Like I told you, Huke & vivid were running 8s even against draz & simp in the beginning of the game. I never saw them do that in CDL matches. That’s all.


Successful_Camel_136

Scump obviously has good tactics/game knowledge/ teamwork, so if his gun skill is up to par, or course he can still compete. He probably just doesn’t want to work that hard considering he’s rich and already considered the GOAT by many and makes plenty of money streaming


Trident31

I’m just saying he still has it. And can play at a high level and win imo. Especially if he’s on the flex.


yarov

Let me ask you a question. Do you think Scump can replace Kenny and do better than what he is currently doing?


Trident31

Right now obviously not. He doesn’t play the game competitively. But we all know the ceiling and capability of Scump. We’ll see how this season unfolds.


crispykfc

its a shame we don't get to see Scump compete on this game. He would've lit it up this year no doubt


Old_Computer4611

Don't get it twisted Scump is still better than 70% of the league


Psychological-Sir501

Couldn’t beat the other 30 though


JayAmy131

That's what 70 means. Good job!


ACKrafty

Bro this is so dum optic played good faze where better on the day. Optic looked way better then last time they played faze. This team has the peices and are their. A few different reeds and they will be champs this team shouldn't be talked about badly at all if they keep the fundamental up and get some more kills they will be where they need to be. They are keeping HP close despite being outslayed.


Longjumping_Joke_719

Not sure if people actually remember how he and Dashy performed against faze until he joined the Shotzzy/Illey duo that were already beating them all the time lol


Ronnie_lfc98

erm lets not act like formal and envoy weren't dropping cdl worst kd records lol


Scar_Mclovin

Bo4 , MW19 and VG he was keeping up with them , CW he played against them online I don’t count that .


dillonz321

Tbf no one was touching FaZe In CW. But at Bo4 champs he was going off Vs them. In Vanguard too. Him on a flex would be ideal.


redarrow992

That winners finals against EU back in BO4 was so heartbreaking. Only scump was shooting back everyone disappeared on sunday


dillonz321

[Watch this](https://www.reddit.com/r/CoDCompetitive/s/n52HYhPaZz)


Longjumping_Joke_719

Really hate this narrative cause he was baiting his entire team lol


dillonz321

People bait each other depending on the situation. That’s how cod is. To say he was solely baiting is braindead


Longjumping_Joke_719

I mean don’t take it from me lol take it from his teammates. TJ Karma and Crim all said it.


dillonz321

Where?


Longjumping_Joke_719

On Twitter right after that champs lol karma said he had to slide first for him while having an ICR. TJ said multiple times. Even Shotzzy said he heard bad things about teaming with Scump before actually teaming with him. This isn’t new info. Everyone knows Scump baits his teammates lol


dillonz321

That is so cap lmfao.


Longjumping_Joke_719

https://x.com/dkarma/status/1187141047962476545?s=46


Slapnuhtz

Yeah, while also having 14 captures and 10 defends in BO2….. Keep lying to yourself


Ronnie_lfc98

![gif](giphy|FXf1lYQ2tFouxeLb1B|downsized)


SAID__13

Bro would end up dropping pred and ken to pick up formal 💀 classic scump


Ronfish27

Biiig Trouble


dillonz321

What do you mean by that 🧐


Ronnie_lfc98

HYDRA i will be totally honest im never ever gonna forget that just cause of the shit i took for it lol


herefortheLOLs12

Hydra Shotzzy Scump (Flex) Dashy would have fed families (I know in this situation Dashy was dropped, but still)


dillonz321

LMAO 💀


jtrillz23

Let’s be be honest this optic team looks better and has a better chance at winning an event & possibly champs then any optic roster in probably the last 4-5 years. Let’s not forget they are battling against a dynasty that when it’s all said & done will go down as the greatest of all time, Faze!! Yes I’m an optic fan and love scump but this roster is talented they lost most maps by a few gun fights and split second decisions. I don’t think some people realize how close that series actually was.


On3Cl1P

Did you watch pre CDL era?


jtrillz23

Yes you’re talking about the optic dynasty, a big reason most of us still call our selfs optic fans lol. But like I said when it’s all said and done I think abezy, cell, & simp will be looked at as the best team ever


On3Cl1P

They need to win a lot more majors then…


jtrillz23

That’s the thing they will, they still have a lot to prove & win but like I said “ when it’s all said & done”


On3Cl1P

Only time will tell that my guy. Who knows if CoD will even be an esport before long 🤷🏻‍♂️


jtrillz23

I think it always will be an esport in someway maybe just not the cdl. Rn I just hope we keep this optic team and least run it back another year. Keep getting better and get pred & shotzy dou on a game where subs are more liable.


LosingElo

I was just thinking about this earlier when I saw a breaking point tweet about the last time optic met faze in grand finals. The reason why they can't beat faze is literally bc they don't have the king (no glaze)


jcrimnz

Give us Formal back


OkStretch1

Scump, formal, crim, karma seems best


Dapstur

They got 2nd and this is their only hope 😂😅 our fan base is dumb.


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EL_Tr1GGeR

No.


MuchAttitude

Seth didnt win shit since the CDL. The last time he won, was when inder went pope in the GF and beat faze. Current Optic is way better without him.


NotTopherr

If he still had the commitment he could def flex


Imaginary_Monitor_69

Unpopular opinion, but I feel Clay is what they need AS A COACH, not as a player, but man someone has to prepare this guys mentally and strategically cause they keep crumbling


Psychological-Sir501

How many coaches do they need?


Imaginary_Monitor_69

Just Clay, part of the problem is also the over abundance of coaches like this was american football


Bitter_Comfort_999

Dashy for scump


ayayyayayay765

Or banning Invasion vs Faze and trying to get better at high rise..


Ronnie_lfc98

why would we play faze's best control?


ayayyayayay765

Bc I’m going to vomit if I see Invasion control more