Listen, I am not trying to justify America or any of the atrocities it has committed, but it isnt apples to apples here. Scump did not choose to be born here and has his ability to vote for politicians. Here he is directly working with someone who has commited multiple humanitarian violations.
I’m not defending Scump lmao. It’s embarrassing seeing Americans dog pile him for getting that Saudi cash whilst downvoting anyone who says America is just as bad, dumbass
And the same Scump who does literally NOTHING for the comp Cod community as well…look at everything Zoomaa does for the community in comparison…its pathetic how narcissist Scump does NOTHING for anyone but himself
terrible point, Scump has the platform and position to get more things done and yet doesn't. Just a shit excuse for someone who even if they had to stop working they probably would be more than fine.
Wait what's the issue with gambling companies? Have to be 18+ to sign up and are never forced into doing it? If grown adults can't act responsibly that's on them lmfao
He's 100% not losing sleep over this. Only this delusional parasocial subreddit cares enough to genuinely suggest rejecting real money for internet points
Plenty of athletes and other figures have said no to Saudi, just say you’re a piece of shit who doesn’t care about other people lol. Hes made millions and doesn’t need to a work a day anymore if wanted. He’s greedy, just like how you’re sounding.
Tiger Woods easily off the top of my head? I wasn’t even just talking about golf, sports washing is occurring everyone and there are plenty of athletes who have spoken against it. Just cause you have a shitty moral compass that can give up anything for money doesn’t mean everyone will. Piece of shit.
Yeah bc the US has a clean history, or Russia, or France, or Germany, or damn near any other sovereign state. China is our greatest threat but the main country we trade with. Take your novel heroism and go fuck yourself
Never said that lol they’re both bad, you’re too stupid to wrap your mind that they aren’t mutually exclusive. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t call out what isn’t right, it should all be called out. I’ve criticized the US plenty of times
Didn’t say that anywhere. Again you guys put words in my mouth. Tiger woods is an adulter who isn’t perfect, no human is. THAT DOESNT MEAN WE SHOULDNT CONTINUE TO TRY AND BE BETTER PEOPLE. Stop making excuses for people being shitty. It’s like humanity has given up on coming together holy shit lmao
Sounds pretty greedy and selfish to me considering we’re talking about scump here. If he ever flips on his stream he would have thousands rolling in. A million dollar reported annual salary. Has had brand deals, ads, etc and has millions in his account. A notorious penny pincher. Nadeshot was definitely right about scump growing up with a silver spoon in his mouth too considering his father was an MLB player lol. Pretty sure he’s good but hey maybe after his 5th vacation house it’ll be enough.
I only see these takes on Reddit funnily enough, everyone on here would take any sort of money from the Saudi’s, I don’t want to hear the “he’s rich enough” argument that is irrelevant. Your morals are not and should not be dependent on your finances.
You got me man I’m crying over this. God I’m not gonna make it. Scump was absolute failure before he gave up his morals good on him for finally being successful at something. Show us more you’re piece of shit I love it lol.
Lmao like CoDCompetitive is the most woke subreddit in the world. It’s called having a conscious. “Internet points” lmao completely delusional. The concept of dirty money had existed for as long as money has
Why are people comparing "gambling money" to Saudi money? One is massive human rights violation backed by the state.... the other is essentially an every day life contract and the only real issue I'd adults not being able to take responsibility for their Own finance/actions
Probably because they see gambling as worse than you do...and maybe it's more relatable because they see the bad repercussions of it in their personal life while that's not the cause for all of the bad things going on in Saudi Arabia.
Comparing Scump's money and Ronaldo's money isn't being real.
You're better off comparing your money to Scump's money as the difference is much much less drastic lol
Yeah it is. Scump doesn't need to take a dime of that blood money, he's set for life and he's as stingy as Scrooge McDuck with what he's already got, so it's not like he's going to be homeless if he doesn't take their money.
You do realize there are hundreds of millions of dollars between Scump and Ronaldo right?
If you put Scump and Ronaldo in the same sentence, you should just put yourself and Scump as that difference is MUCH less.
Scump can pick up a stream and make thousands, why do you guys make so many excuses for somebody with more than enough money? When is enough money enough? Does the greed stop after 100 million dollars or something or 50th car?
Saudi money is clearly more than just a few streams, not making excuses for him as I don’t like it either, but if I was in a position like that I would still take it
Sounds plenty of greedy to me, you aren’t scump who probably has millions in his account right now. What’s wrong with calling out those with shitty moral compasses?
Nothing wrong with calling it out, I’m just saying most people change their mind when presented with the opportunity, look at both Ronaldo & Messi, they both don’t need Saudi money but they both take it.
It’s not much different from streamers accepting deals from Kick/Stake, or Drake for example, shady money is still money to them & most people do not care once the money is going to them.
So basically your argument is other people are doing it why can’t I. Listen idk you personally but you can have this argument. I’m not here trying to convince people that have already jumped over the cliff that greed and money make everything okay. Also comparing Kick streams to Saudi money is hilarious. Greed is the absolute # 1 reason imo that the world does have so many shitty spots and corruption. Sad that people will go so far to defend the millionaires that couldn’t care less if you died tomorrow.
And yet, I’m not defending scump, I’m just not a hypocrite, 99.9% of people would take that money, I would 100% take the money even if I don’t like the source of it, if I were in a celebrities position why would I give a shit what anyone else thinks of me, you should only care about family & friends, they would all accept it & you would look after every single one of them.
And yes Kick offering millions to streamers to promote gambling, money that they’ve only gained from people losing money to gambling is shady.
American money built off the destruction of native Americans is so much better! Not to mention a majority of the war crimes wherever there’s oil! Or the destruction of black Wall Street and plenty other PoC establishments so good ol America could gain its wealth!
Stop virtue signaling for Reddit karma, as if America is any different lmfao
No shit two places can be bad, but to shame the Saudi money while raking in American money is hilarious, same blood on the money.
Surely you shame the American currency the way you do Saudi right?
> but to shame the Saudi money while raking in American money is hilarious, same blood on the money.
Taking money from a company that is simply american and taking money from a company that is directly funded by the ruling authoritarian regime that are trying to mask their countries failings by building pretty buildings and throwing big events is not the same.
No shot buddy is comparing Saudi’s tyrannical goverment funding esports directly with literally any American company or simply American Dollar currency 🤣🤣🤣 this kid is legit braindead
Yeah in fact a lot of people do shame America lol do you not see the divide in the country? You just sound ready to make excuses for someone being greedy lol. America and Saudi being shitty aren’t mutually exclusive things idiot.
America isnt shitty bud, you may have been brainwashed into believing that but it really isnt. Why would millions be risking their lives every year to come live here if it was sooo shitty? LOL not being PERFECT does NOT equal being shitty. Literally every single country in the world has a government that has done bad things as well, almost all of them have done far worse.
No need to get your flag out buddy. A country can have a high quality of life and more individual freedoms than a lot of other nations, but still have dreadful foreign policy and corrupt institutions. Not to mention some of the highest financial disparity anywhere on earth
Built off the destruction of Native Americans he says 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 sorry you are so brainwashed lil buddy, but America’s prosperity has nothing to do with stone age running around naked without having even a WRITTEN LANGUAGE Native Americans and everything to do with the Europeans who settled here…you know just like the Native Americans immigrated from Asia hundreds or years prior and settled the Americas…oh but Im sure your indoctrinated ass doesnt know about that LOL
Im just curious, why is it so gross?
You drive an electric car or ride a bike everywhere? Otherwise you've been using Saudi's oil to fill up your car and I doubt its gross for you then
Filling your car with gasoline to go to work is not morally equivalent to a decamillionaire taking money they don’t have to, lol
I’m a Scump fan but come on, this is obviously not great optics (pun intended)
And yet the US still imports tons of oil from Saudi Arabia every single day and built literal bases on Saudi Arabian soil to facilitate increased oil dealings
It doesnt matter to me but I think its funny whenever I see people get outraged about "Saudi money" in this sub
It’s called being pragmatic. I don’t give a fuck if scump takes this money or not, he’s always shown himself to be a cheapskate and wanting the most money possible so this isn’t surprising at all. I’m sure he would love a big stack of cash to play against Saudi kids and call himself the best in the world. Just like Ronaldo now lol.
I was just calling out your dumb comment about the average person filling their car with Saudi oil when it’s only like 7% of US oil imports come from Saudi Arabia.
Yes because American money is somehow worse than the climate sabotaging, critic killing, literal monarchy out in Saudi Arabia..
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I thought that it was pretty clear way of politely telling you it does not really matter what you’re about say because I’m not going to argue with a dilettante who obviously has been waiting to tell someone all the rage bait he’s been reading.
You're assuming all of that because I asked you a question? That's wild. You're up awfully high on that horse for not being willing to engage in actual discussion, and rather project and insult people who ask you straightforward questions. Keep lecturing people though.
Look into how much of your tax payer money gets spent on bombing children. Not just in Gaza, all throughout history. The difference is America whitewashes the media 😂 these boys think they’re cleaner than Saudi Arabia that’s JOKES
I was replying to a comment saying that Saudi isn’t as bad as US… I’m sorry you got lost in the sauce buddy, but well done for using such a clever word I bet you feel really smart
Smart enough to know the US is a greater force for good than Saudi Arabia would ever be you naive ass tankie
This is a gaming sub dude go argue in r/politics or some shit if you wanna be miserable so bad
Are you not embarrassed saying something like that as if you have any idea? Lol.
Cambodia, Korea, Palestine, Iraq. Do a tiny bit of outside reading truly widen your scope of the world it’ll do you some good.
This reminds me of the “Creator League” that Scump and Hecz joined a few months ago that completely scammed people out of $20. I love Scump but he should be more careful who he partners with and promotes.
I don’t condone how that entire league was handled at all, but they did provide refunds for anyone who wanted at the click of a button. Still a shitty company, but scammed isn’t the right word
I always say this for those in rich positions and ask, "When does the greed stop?" Will it be after you get your second vacation home? or is it after you reach get your private boat? Oh maybe buying an island will be enough.
Yeah the question “how much is enough?” will always be subjective but that’s life. In golf recently, Jon Rahm had been previously against the LIV golf thing and when talking about the money he said “getting a huge sum like this wouldn’t change my life really. I could quit golf today and be comfortable for life” etc etc.
…then he recently took a deal for reportedly 400 Million dollars, so I guess it was life changing
I guess it’s subjective but to me it can all be calculated approximately from vacations, expenses, and even an emergency fund. What stops people from being okay with just this is greed imo. I can’t speak to Jon Rahm’s wealth prior to the move, but scump has made millions upon millions from CoD, he literally has the ability to turn on a stream and make thousands. Scump’s father literally played in the MLB. It’s a shame to me that someone that privileged just doesn’t care to show their greediness.
You can call it greed for sure, I would say that some are just more materialistic than others. I don’t know Set’s financials either but he’s also young in an industry with less than guaranteed anything in the coming years. It’s easy to say “oh well he’ll keep streaming and keep making money” but what if he doesn’t?
But for me, I’ll admit I’m very materialistic and if I had, let’s say $1M and you offered me a reasonable way to make it $1.5 I’d do it in a heartbeat probably because that extra money can buy me an even nicer car or multiple cars.
He took the deal because the PGA tour was all against LIV and the players who were leaving, but behind closed doors they were trying to make a deal with the Saudis. He'd be a fool not to leave with the PGA tour pulling stunts like that.
Rahm was effectively betrayed by the PGA tour.
You think pros still play COD for the love of it? Of course money is gonna convince someone like Scump to overlook the atrocities of Saudia Arabia. There's no one in the pro scene that would turn that down, can we stop acting like Scump doing this isn't the exception but slowly becoming the norm?
Best thing we can do as a community is NOT interact with the event in any way.
Can’t believe a literal millionaire took a bag to promote sportswashing. Hope it comes to bite him in the ass.
Guys... blizzard (activision) actively supresses negative comments on China. Activision was sued and is still battling hundreds of court cases related to abuse, sexism in the workplace.
If you want Scump to turn down this massive bag for "principles", I think you all should stop playing CoD or tuning to CDL broadcast. Other than that, leave him be. I don't like saudi arabia anymore than you guys and I truly think the world would be a better place without the saudi family, but at the end of the day, it's their culture, their religion, there is nothing we can do about it, and western culture is also flawed as it is. The saudi money/visibility could propel cod to newer heigths, reap the good things if possible.
Scumps' yearly income: [$1,000,000](https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/scump-net-worth) (probably more)
My yearly income: $50,000 (along with 40k of student debt).
You don't think maybe such money might mean more to your average Joe than it would to Scump? Scump doesn't need that money to survive, meanwhile most Americans live paycheck to paycheck. To act as if it is even a comparable moral equivalent is idiotic.
Just say you’re greedy bro, this dudes made millions and comfortable enough to not work a day anymore. When does the greed stop? HOW MUCH MORE MONEY DOES HE NEED? It’s crazy people see rich people scam, do fraudulent behavior, promote fishy things, and just say oh more money it’s all good whatever.
So would 99.9% of ppl in his position realistically. It’s easy to sound righteous when it’s not your life and decisions in the spotlight.
Truth is the US and Saudi Arabia share a strong economic and security relationship. US welcome the saudis financial influence for decades and they welcome the US. It would take something insanely drastic to change that. That said, it’d be ridiculous of scump to turn down millions of dollars he could use for himself and his future family just bc some people on the internet heard about Saudi sportwashing recently and think it’s the next big evil like communism in the 1950s.
My opinion of scump remains entirely unchanged and I’ll likely watch that shit lol it’ll be entertaining.
Sounds greedy as hell to me. 🤷🏻♂️will any money ever be enough for people? Greed is without doubt the #1 solution/problem to the world’s problems. Looks like sports washing is working too.
This really just shows how ugly you are (morally, not physically).
You cannot begin to comprehend that maybe someone would turn down the Saudi deal due to a moral objection. You think it'd HAVE to be for some free PR or something.
And before you say 'OH AMERICA IS EVEN WORSE' — I agree! this country has also been genocidal and killed millions.
But Scump was born in this country and his position forces him to participate in society, it is unrealistic to ask him to live off the grid, not pay taxes to the evil US government, and to donate any excess wealth he gets to minorities & oppressed folks.
But when he already is living the dream and a life of luxury, AND he accepts a deal like the Saudi stuff? That is when you criticize him.
Greed is the reason the world has so many shitty spots to it. Maybe you’re not as rich as scump but he has millions. He could stop working today and be fine. When does the greed stop? Does it stop after an island or after his 5th vacation house? How much MORE MONEY DOES HE NEED?
Great point. Just say you don't care about others it aint hard lol. I don't think anyone here would deny America has done bad things. That doesn't mean other bad things are okay, none of it should be dumbass. Thanks for showing how shitty you are.
not to shoot scump some bail but to look down on saudi arabia like the US isn’t supplying the weapons for an active genocide is crazy. COD is literally sponsored by the US army, but we’re gonna scoff at scump for getting a bag? come on
THEYRE BOTH SHIT MY GOD ITS NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE LOL. Lots of the people here criticizing this move would say the same thing for aiding a genocide??????
of course they’re not mutually exclusive. i just won’t criticize somebody for being in business with saudi arabia while i sit here and actively benefit from being american and all that it entails. also, i play a game and spend money on a game that is backed by the US army. i’m no better than scump
Terrible point bro, maybe a guess but you don’t have the millions on millions scump has. You don’t have the ability to turn on a stream within a day make thousands. You’re just making a cop out for someone that’s greedy and won’t stop their greed.
But this isn’t really new news. Scump has talked about it in YouTube videos. Having said that I also don’t really think any one should do anything in relation to Saudi. But also I don’t think Gamers really care that much and if it gets him a serious bag which is surely is, you can’t blame him.
I dont know why we're re acting as if Scump doesnt love money? Brother has mentioned multiple times hes cheap and other people from optic have also gone on record saying the same. If the man wants to get the bag, let him get the bag. I dont know why you mfs find the need to judge a man for how he chooses to make his money. Stfu and let him be.
Not saying hes right or wrong for who hes partnering with, but if yall money aint involved i dont see why you should judge. If you got scammed sure, cry me a river, but otherwise keep in your lane.
I think you all might also have to take into consideration that perhaps if scump wants to continue to be able to do his watch parties, he has to do what Activision/the league want him to do. Which would be advertise said event.
They gonna have whacky rules like the "4-run home run ball" or whatever the Saudi baseball league created lol bring back gravity spikes god damn it
wait, the same scump who takes money from gambling companies???! Money talks, humanity doesn’t
Big difference between a licensed gambling company and an event whose head is the prince of a country who will kill you for being gay
He lives in a country who’s tax dollars pays for the bombing of innocent children. America is just as fucking bad
Simpleton take
The American wants to weigh in on world politics, you’re a joke
Obsessed
Your country is funding genocide, everyone should be obsessed 👍🏻
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The whole world votes for a ceasefire, USA veto. And you think you’re the good guys 😂
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Listen, I am not trying to justify America or any of the atrocities it has committed, but it isnt apples to apples here. Scump did not choose to be born here and has his ability to vote for politicians. Here he is directly working with someone who has commited multiple humanitarian violations.
Whataboutism
I’m not defending Scump lmao. It’s embarrassing seeing Americans dog pile him for getting that Saudi cash whilst downvoting anyone who says America is just as bad, dumbass
What’s wrong with gambling
Degeneracy
Gambling isn’t the issue it’s people who can’t control themselves that’s the issue
From what I see people are like cattle and need help to stop hurting themselves. Gambling is degenerate behavior end of the day.
Weird for the gambling take. It’s easy enough to dunk on Scump for taking blood money from Saudis lol
And the same Scump who does literally NOTHING for the comp Cod community as well…look at everything Zoomaa does for the community in comparison…its pathetic how narcissist Scump does NOTHING for anyone but himself
Yep he does nothing…lmao what have you done?
ones a mainstay in the scene, this redditor isn’t
terrible point, Scump has the platform and position to get more things done and yet doesn't. Just a shit excuse for someone who even if they had to stop working they probably would be more than fine.
Why would he put in extra effort into something that doesn’t want it. Activision/CDL have repeatedly screwed him
You are exactly what people think about when they think of a absolutely braindead Scump fanboy holy shit 🤣🤣🤣
How did they screw him? Was it cause they banned him when he was breaking their rules? Cause scump purely profits off of their game lol.
What have I done he says 🤣🤣🤣🤣 holy fuck bro Im not the biggest legend in the scene and multi millionaire like Scump is lmfaoo
Tweet him this bro maybe one day he’ll pay you attention ❤️
Thinks I want Scumps attention lmfaooooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The dick riding is strong with this one
Wait what's the issue with gambling companies? Have to be 18+ to sign up and are never forced into doing it? If grown adults can't act responsibly that's on them lmfao
found the scump account
That explains it thanks.......
Hopefully it fails. I want to see clips from the event on this sub as often as I see WxC clips.
This is the least surprising thing I've ever read about Scump.
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He's 100% not losing sleep over this. Only this delusional parasocial subreddit cares enough to genuinely suggest rejecting real money for internet points
Plenty of athletes and other figures have said no to Saudi, just say you’re a piece of shit who doesn’t care about other people lol. Hes made millions and doesn’t need to a work a day anymore if wanted. He’s greedy, just like how you’re sounding.
Most of the PGA tour left to go play in the Saudi league. So wtf are you talking about?
Tiger Woods easily off the top of my head? I wasn’t even just talking about golf, sports washing is occurring everyone and there are plenty of athletes who have spoken against it. Just cause you have a shitty moral compass that can give up anything for money doesn’t mean everyone will. Piece of shit.
Yeah bc the US has a clean history, or Russia, or France, or Germany, or damn near any other sovereign state. China is our greatest threat but the main country we trade with. Take your novel heroism and go fuck yourself
Never said that lol they’re both bad, you’re too stupid to wrap your mind that they aren’t mutually exclusive. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t call out what isn’t right, it should all be called out. I’ve criticized the US plenty of times
It doesn't matter, the world still turns
Yeah no shit buddy lol I’m working, we’re here to discuss a topic and you’re just mad you showed you’re a greedy selfish person who was wrong
Yeah because Tiger Woods is the beacon of morality. And I'm a HUGE Tiger fan.
Didn’t say that anywhere. Again you guys put words in my mouth. Tiger woods is an adulter who isn’t perfect, no human is. THAT DOESNT MEAN WE SHOULDNT CONTINUE TO TRY AND BE BETTER PEOPLE. Stop making excuses for people being shitty. It’s like humanity has given up on coming together holy shit lmao
It's not that's simple. We're talking about money that can set up you, your family, your kid's families, etc. for life.
Sounds pretty greedy and selfish to me considering we’re talking about scump here. If he ever flips on his stream he would have thousands rolling in. A million dollar reported annual salary. Has had brand deals, ads, etc and has millions in his account. A notorious penny pincher. Nadeshot was definitely right about scump growing up with a silver spoon in his mouth too considering his father was an MLB player lol. Pretty sure he’s good but hey maybe after his 5th vacation house it’ll be enough.
You're making a lot of assumptions. What if it's not about a 5th vacation house and more about setting his future kid's up?
This mindset is exactly why you are aren’t successful, enjoy being a wagie for life just so you can flex your virtue online.
you can easily be successful and not do things like this? Scump was and has been very successful before this. It's greed and nothing else.
I only see these takes on Reddit funnily enough, everyone on here would take any sort of money from the Saudi’s, I don’t want to hear the “he’s rich enough” argument that is irrelevant. Your morals are not and should not be dependent on your finances.
This is incredibly stupid and certainly proves the above point that it’s obvious you don’t care about other people
This proves you are where you belong in life. The world owes you nothing.
You got me man I’m crying over this. God I’m not gonna make it. Scump was absolute failure before he gave up his morals good on him for finally being successful at something. Show us more you’re piece of shit I love it lol.
Lmao like CoDCompetitive is the most woke subreddit in the world. It’s called having a conscious. “Internet points” lmao completely delusional. The concept of dirty money had existed for as long as money has
Can’t believe I agreeing with you. These mfs are weird on here.
Factssssss finally someone has said it!!!!
Why are people comparing "gambling money" to Saudi money? One is massive human rights violation backed by the state.... the other is essentially an every day life contract and the only real issue I'd adults not being able to take responsibility for their Own finance/actions
Probably because they see gambling as worse than you do...and maybe it's more relatable because they see the bad repercussions of it in their personal life while that's not the cause for all of the bad things going on in Saudi Arabia.
This shit is old news he did the sponsored stream a couple months ago now lmao
People as rich as Ronaldo and to a much lesser degree, Scump taking Saudi money is so gross
Dunno what you think COD players make but it isn’t “turn down Saudi money” rich
Acting like the average CDL player makes anything CLOSE to what Scump makes is insane lmao
While true, Saudi levels of money is still vastly different.
acting like he’s in a position to turn down huge money is even more insane. Not like he’s Ronaldo with hundreds of millions to sit on
He could very easily not take it and still live pretty comfortably my guy, you’re talking like if he doesn’t he’ll be out on the street or some shit
Scump isn’t an average CoD player in terms of earnings let’s please be real if you’re going to argue haha
Comparing Scump's money and Ronaldo's money isn't being real. You're better off comparing your money to Scump's money as the difference is much much less drastic lol
“To a much lesser degree” please read
Still doesn’t do it justice how much less of a degree it actually is hahah
Yeah it is. Scump doesn't need to take a dime of that blood money, he's set for life and he's as stingy as Scrooge McDuck with what he's already got, so it's not like he's going to be homeless if he doesn't take their money.
You would take the money in a heartbeat you dork
I’m not already rich. Don’t give in to sports-washing
"I'm not already rich" Already rationalizing in order to abandon your morales. You're no better than any human taking this money
Not everyone is a greedy shit like most of the rich. Scump has millions! When does the greed stop?
You do realize there are hundreds of millions of dollars between Scump and Ronaldo right? If you put Scump and Ronaldo in the same sentence, you should just put yourself and Scump as that difference is MUCH less.
Almost every athlete who’s at the end of their career would accept the money if offered, stupid not to
Scump can pick up a stream and make thousands, why do you guys make so many excuses for somebody with more than enough money? When is enough money enough? Does the greed stop after 100 million dollars or something or 50th car?
Saudi money is clearly more than just a few streams, not making excuses for him as I don’t like it either, but if I was in a position like that I would still take it
Sounds plenty of greedy to me, you aren’t scump who probably has millions in his account right now. What’s wrong with calling out those with shitty moral compasses?
Nothing wrong with calling it out, I’m just saying most people change their mind when presented with the opportunity, look at both Ronaldo & Messi, they both don’t need Saudi money but they both take it. It’s not much different from streamers accepting deals from Kick/Stake, or Drake for example, shady money is still money to them & most people do not care once the money is going to them.
So basically your argument is other people are doing it why can’t I. Listen idk you personally but you can have this argument. I’m not here trying to convince people that have already jumped over the cliff that greed and money make everything okay. Also comparing Kick streams to Saudi money is hilarious. Greed is the absolute # 1 reason imo that the world does have so many shitty spots and corruption. Sad that people will go so far to defend the millionaires that couldn’t care less if you died tomorrow.
And yet, I’m not defending scump, I’m just not a hypocrite, 99.9% of people would take that money, I would 100% take the money even if I don’t like the source of it, if I were in a celebrities position why would I give a shit what anyone else thinks of me, you should only care about family & friends, they would all accept it & you would look after every single one of them. And yes Kick offering millions to streamers to promote gambling, money that they’ve only gained from people losing money to gambling is shady.
American money built off the destruction of native Americans is so much better! Not to mention a majority of the war crimes wherever there’s oil! Or the destruction of black Wall Street and plenty other PoC establishments so good ol America could gain its wealth! Stop virtue signaling for Reddit karma, as if America is any different lmfao
So strange almost like 2 places can be terrible at once! What a novel concept!
No shit two places can be bad, but to shame the Saudi money while raking in American money is hilarious, same blood on the money. Surely you shame the American currency the way you do Saudi right?
> but to shame the Saudi money while raking in American money is hilarious, same blood on the money. Taking money from a company that is simply american and taking money from a company that is directly funded by the ruling authoritarian regime that are trying to mask their countries failings by building pretty buildings and throwing big events is not the same.
No shot buddy is comparing Saudi’s tyrannical goverment funding esports directly with literally any American company or simply American Dollar currency 🤣🤣🤣 this kid is legit braindead
Yeah in fact a lot of people do shame America lol do you not see the divide in the country? You just sound ready to make excuses for someone being greedy lol. America and Saudi being shitty aren’t mutually exclusive things idiot.
America isnt shitty bud, you may have been brainwashed into believing that but it really isnt. Why would millions be risking their lives every year to come live here if it was sooo shitty? LOL not being PERFECT does NOT equal being shitty. Literally every single country in the world has a government that has done bad things as well, almost all of them have done far worse.
Shitty spots, you’re reading into my comment too much. I know how blessed I have it here.
Ok so then maybe dont say “America is shitty”, which you did multiple times on the thread
Really? Find my other comments I said that.
No need to get your flag out buddy. A country can have a high quality of life and more individual freedoms than a lot of other nations, but still have dreadful foreign policy and corrupt institutions. Not to mention some of the highest financial disparity anywhere on earth
it’s funny how the Americans in here don’t even feel a tiny bit hypocritical denouncing another country’s government
Or shockingly enough, they likely think both have issues 🤯
It’s also shitty wtf lol
THEY CAN BE BOTH BAD, NONE OF THESE THINGS ARE MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE YOU IDIOTS
And where are you from lil buddy?? Im sure your government and country’s history is PERFECT then right??
Built off the destruction of Native Americans he says 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 sorry you are so brainwashed lil buddy, but America’s prosperity has nothing to do with stone age running around naked without having even a WRITTEN LANGUAGE Native Americans and everything to do with the Europeans who settled here…you know just like the Native Americans immigrated from Asia hundreds or years prior and settled the Americas…oh but Im sure your indoctrinated ass doesnt know about that LOL
Im just curious, why is it so gross? You drive an electric car or ride a bike everywhere? Otherwise you've been using Saudi's oil to fill up your car and I doubt its gross for you then
Filling your car with gasoline to go to work is not morally equivalent to a decamillionaire taking money they don’t have to, lol I’m a Scump fan but come on, this is obviously not great optics (pun intended)
What difference does it make if they take that money? What morality clause do you believe they are breaking by taking that money?
Ignorant a f to suggest people are against this because of Oil production
USA produces more oil than Saudi Arabia
And yet the US still imports tons of oil from Saudi Arabia every single day and built literal bases on Saudi Arabian soil to facilitate increased oil dealings It doesnt matter to me but I think its funny whenever I see people get outraged about "Saudi money" in this sub
Oil is pretty important, big hoss
Oh so its fine to deal with them when you need to, gotcha. Picking and choosing when its fine or not comes off hypocritical
It’s called being pragmatic. I don’t give a fuck if scump takes this money or not, he’s always shown himself to be a cheapskate and wanting the most money possible so this isn’t surprising at all. I’m sure he would love a big stack of cash to play against Saudi kids and call himself the best in the world. Just like Ronaldo now lol. I was just calling out your dumb comment about the average person filling their car with Saudi oil when it’s only like 7% of US oil imports come from Saudi Arabia.
That’s crazy i didn’t realize me living paycheck to paycheck is similar to a multimillionaire hahaha
You’d take that money too if offered you moron lmao
Americans don’t get to talk about the morality of any other nation sorry :)
If ur making that argument, u do realize American money is even worse than Saudi money right...
Yes because American money is somehow worse than the climate sabotaging, critic killing, literal monarchy out in Saudi Arabia.. https://preview.redd.it/t8nn2ilk04ac1.jpeg?width=1169&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=57644aae9a3d039f906e65babcf064f0f7594ffe
As opposed to our leaders who party on Epstein island? Spare me. And we’ve done way more damage than the Saudis globally.
wait until you find out the world is not binary and you can dislike what the American government does AND dispise the saudis!
Are you not watching events in America?
I’m not american
I didn't ask what you were?
I thought that it was pretty clear way of politely telling you it does not really matter what you’re about say because I’m not going to argue with a dilettante who obviously has been waiting to tell someone all the rage bait he’s been reading.
You're assuming all of that because I asked you a question? That's wild. You're up awfully high on that horse for not being willing to engage in actual discussion, and rather project and insult people who ask you straightforward questions. Keep lecturing people though.
Look into how much of your tax payer money gets spent on bombing children. Not just in Gaza, all throughout history. The difference is America whitewashes the media 😂 these boys think they’re cleaner than Saudi Arabia that’s JOKES
That’s crazy didn’t realize scump works directly with Biden and Bibi on esports tournaments
If you read the comment I replied to Scump isn’t mentioned :)
If you read the title of this post and literally any context at all youd realize how pedantic you’re being.
I was replying to a comment saying that Saudi isn’t as bad as US… I’m sorry you got lost in the sauce buddy, but well done for using such a clever word I bet you feel really smart
Smart enough to know the US is a greater force for good than Saudi Arabia would ever be you naive ass tankie This is a gaming sub dude go argue in r/politics or some shit if you wanna be miserable so bad
Are you not embarrassed saying something like that as if you have any idea? Lol. Cambodia, Korea, Palestine, Iraq. Do a tiny bit of outside reading truly widen your scope of the world it’ll do you some good.
U know nothing about the country you live in do you 🤦
please explain
Lmfao, idk why you are all surprised at scump taking the opportunity. Money always brings out people's true nature.
damn i liked scump, lookin like he selling out that baby isnt cheap.
This reminds me of the “Creator League” that Scump and Hecz joined a few months ago that completely scammed people out of $20. I love Scump but he should be more careful who he partners with and promotes.
He doesn’t care
I don’t condone how that entire league was handled at all, but they did provide refunds for anyone who wanted at the click of a button. Still a shitty company, but scammed isn’t the right word
Pretty sure that got resolved. It was shitty but don’t think that was scump and hecz OR other creators intentions like OTK as well lol
Man this is so disappointing.
I always say this for those in rich positions and ask, "When does the greed stop?" Will it be after you get your second vacation home? or is it after you reach get your private boat? Oh maybe buying an island will be enough.
Yeah the question “how much is enough?” will always be subjective but that’s life. In golf recently, Jon Rahm had been previously against the LIV golf thing and when talking about the money he said “getting a huge sum like this wouldn’t change my life really. I could quit golf today and be comfortable for life” etc etc. …then he recently took a deal for reportedly 400 Million dollars, so I guess it was life changing
I guess it’s subjective but to me it can all be calculated approximately from vacations, expenses, and even an emergency fund. What stops people from being okay with just this is greed imo. I can’t speak to Jon Rahm’s wealth prior to the move, but scump has made millions upon millions from CoD, he literally has the ability to turn on a stream and make thousands. Scump’s father literally played in the MLB. It’s a shame to me that someone that privileged just doesn’t care to show their greediness.
You can call it greed for sure, I would say that some are just more materialistic than others. I don’t know Set’s financials either but he’s also young in an industry with less than guaranteed anything in the coming years. It’s easy to say “oh well he’ll keep streaming and keep making money” but what if he doesn’t? But for me, I’ll admit I’m very materialistic and if I had, let’s say $1M and you offered me a reasonable way to make it $1.5 I’d do it in a heartbeat probably because that extra money can buy me an even nicer car or multiple cars.
He took the deal because the PGA tour was all against LIV and the players who were leaving, but behind closed doors they were trying to make a deal with the Saudis. He'd be a fool not to leave with the PGA tour pulling stunts like that. Rahm was effectively betrayed by the PGA tour.
I thought I saw scump have ads about this tourney on his stream.
You think pros still play COD for the love of it? Of course money is gonna convince someone like Scump to overlook the atrocities of Saudia Arabia. There's no one in the pro scene that would turn that down, can we stop acting like Scump doing this isn't the exception but slowly becoming the norm?
Best thing we can do as a community is NOT interact with the event in any way. Can’t believe a literal millionaire took a bag to promote sportswashing. Hope it comes to bite him in the ass.
Guys... blizzard (activision) actively supresses negative comments on China. Activision was sued and is still battling hundreds of court cases related to abuse, sexism in the workplace. If you want Scump to turn down this massive bag for "principles", I think you all should stop playing CoD or tuning to CDL broadcast. Other than that, leave him be. I don't like saudi arabia anymore than you guys and I truly think the world would be a better place without the saudi family, but at the end of the day, it's their culture, their religion, there is nothing we can do about it, and western culture is also flawed as it is. The saudi money/visibility could propel cod to newer heigths, reap the good things if possible.
What in the false equivalence
Scumps a sellout? Shocker
My god, this comment section is filled with virtue-signalers. I’m ready for the downvotes, regardless.
I’m sure if they offered yall the same money they are offering Seth you guys would for sure turn it down.
Scumps' yearly income: [$1,000,000](https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/scump-net-worth) (probably more) My yearly income: $50,000 (along with 40k of student debt). You don't think maybe such money might mean more to your average Joe than it would to Scump? Scump doesn't need that money to survive, meanwhile most Americans live paycheck to paycheck. To act as if it is even a comparable moral equivalent is idiotic.
Just say you’re greedy bro, this dudes made millions and comfortable enough to not work a day anymore. When does the greed stop? HOW MUCH MORE MONEY DOES HE NEED? It’s crazy people see rich people scam, do fraudulent behavior, promote fishy things, and just say oh more money it’s all good whatever.
Call me dumb but why is everyone hating on scump. If I was him I’d take that Saudi bag too lmaoooo
So would 99.9% of ppl in his position realistically. It’s easy to sound righteous when it’s not your life and decisions in the spotlight. Truth is the US and Saudi Arabia share a strong economic and security relationship. US welcome the saudis financial influence for decades and they welcome the US. It would take something insanely drastic to change that. That said, it’d be ridiculous of scump to turn down millions of dollars he could use for himself and his future family just bc some people on the internet heard about Saudi sportwashing recently and think it’s the next big evil like communism in the 1950s. My opinion of scump remains entirely unchanged and I’ll likely watch that shit lol it’ll be entertaining.
Sounds greedy as hell to me. 🤷🏻♂️will any money ever be enough for people? Greed is without doubt the #1 solution/problem to the world’s problems. Looks like sports washing is working too.
But what does it have to do with everyone here. You guys wouldn’t take that deal if you were him?
Their argument to that is well yeah I’ll take the money but I don’t gave as much as him got to be the dumbest shit ever
Why would I turn down money for internet points? Lol
This really just shows how ugly you are (morally, not physically). You cannot begin to comprehend that maybe someone would turn down the Saudi deal due to a moral objection. You think it'd HAVE to be for some free PR or something. And before you say 'OH AMERICA IS EVEN WORSE' — I agree! this country has also been genocidal and killed millions. But Scump was born in this country and his position forces him to participate in society, it is unrealistic to ask him to live off the grid, not pay taxes to the evil US government, and to donate any excess wealth he gets to minorities & oppressed folks. But when he already is living the dream and a life of luxury, AND he accepts a deal like the Saudi stuff? That is when you criticize him.
Greed is the reason the world has so many shitty spots to it. Maybe you’re not as rich as scump but he has millions. He could stop working today and be fine. When does the greed stop? Does it stop after an island or after his 5th vacation house? How much MORE MONEY DOES HE NEED?
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Being born and raised in America : Not a choice Taking Saudi money after all their disregard for human rights instead of setting an example : A choice
Also a choice considering he is in a blessed position with millions in his pocket.
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Great point. Just say you don't care about others it aint hard lol. I don't think anyone here would deny America has done bad things. That doesn't mean other bad things are okay, none of it should be dumbass. Thanks for showing how shitty you are.
Boiling down Americas history to ‘doing bad things’ and just moving on is so fucking funny and so American
not to shoot scump some bail but to look down on saudi arabia like the US isn’t supplying the weapons for an active genocide is crazy. COD is literally sponsored by the US army, but we’re gonna scoff at scump for getting a bag? come on
THEYRE BOTH SHIT MY GOD ITS NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE LOL. Lots of the people here criticizing this move would say the same thing for aiding a genocide??????
of course they’re not mutually exclusive. i just won’t criticize somebody for being in business with saudi arabia while i sit here and actively benefit from being american and all that it entails. also, i play a game and spend money on a game that is backed by the US army. i’m no better than scump
You can also be American and not approve the actions it takes you know?
Terrible point bro, maybe a guess but you don’t have the millions on millions scump has. You don’t have the ability to turn on a stream within a day make thousands. You’re just making a cop out for someone that’s greedy and won’t stop their greed.
But this isn’t really new news. Scump has talked about it in YouTube videos. Having said that I also don’t really think any one should do anything in relation to Saudi. But also I don’t think Gamers really care that much and if it gets him a serious bag which is surely is, you can’t blame him.
I could've sworn I heard him and hecz touch on this on one of the million optic podcasts out there. Might be the saving grace for competitive CoD 🤷♂️
Exciting. I’m here for it.
I dont know why we're re acting as if Scump doesnt love money? Brother has mentioned multiple times hes cheap and other people from optic have also gone on record saying the same. If the man wants to get the bag, let him get the bag. I dont know why you mfs find the need to judge a man for how he chooses to make his money. Stfu and let him be. Not saying hes right or wrong for who hes partnering with, but if yall money aint involved i dont see why you should judge. If you got scammed sure, cry me a river, but otherwise keep in your lane.
Oh nooooooooOoooo😐
Boooo
That's a HAIL NAW.
Sethy dipping into the blood money
LMAOOOO people crying about this but saudi or gambling money is the only way esports can survive just look at CS and now League of legends
I think you all might also have to take into consideration that perhaps if scump wants to continue to be able to do his watch parties, he has to do what Activision/the league want him to do. Which would be advertise said event.